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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.20 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop Thus I'm sure as they've made a previous case that someone (yours truly) is a business "failure" due to a smaller T2 portfolio then theirs that they are now going to stand up and proudly proclaim they themselves are failures since the CVA T2 portfolio makes theirs look like a "pathetic joke" (their words to describe mine). Archbishop
Since we have a far better tech2 portfolio than the CVA's your point is somewhat (and hilariously) self defeating I think.
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Solusar
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.20 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 19/05/2007 22:11:19
Originally by: Garreck Patently false.
You withdrew your concord declaration with a significantly inferior combat ratio and having failed utterly to impact our ability to drive PIE from the throne worlds. We achieved all objectives of phase 1 and 2, you achieved nothing. That mr Garreck is precisely what defeat smells like.
(and given the pure number of your battleships we blew up you really shouldn't be the person to be doubting the reality in space)
We withdrew the declaration after three weeks of no fighting. If you want to fight us, declare on us. If not, keep up the war of words on the communication networks. In those three weeks 61 CVA vessels were destroyed for 58 Star Fraction vessels. Hardly a significantly inferior combat ratio. A small raiding force will always achieve far more kills than loses against a larger enemy, at least it should. Now the war has moved to Providence you need to feel you are involved im sure and we will hear some excellent fiction in regards to that in the near future.
Keep up the "good" work for the locals of lower domain. Im sure your policy of shooting everything that moves is converting them to your ideals?
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.20 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 20/05/2007 22:19:57
Originally by: Solusar
We withdrew the declaration after three weeks of no fighting.
"no fighting" which cost you and your allies 600 ships. (adding together the various amarrian bloc entities and not including their hired mercenaries) over the duration of "judas goat and slaughterhouse".
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.20 22:42:00 -
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Quote: Since we have a far better tech2 portfolio than the CVA's your point is somewhat (and hilariously) self defeating I think.
Really? Amazing! I recall on another media outlet you mentioning an exact number of T2 BPOs and I also know how many CVA has (and it's quite a bit more).
But if you want to give people the impression you're NAGA2 thats fine as well as given your history it's what we expect. After all the pressure to "win" everything must be intense so we'll all cut you some slack.
Archbishop
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.20 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop
Quote: Since we have a far better tech2 portfolio than the CVA's your point is somewhat (and hilariously) self defeating I think.
Really? Amazing! I recall on another media outlet you mentioning an exact number of T2 BPOs and I also know how many CVA has (and it's quite a bit more). But if you want to give people the impression you're NAGA2 thats fine as well as given your history it's what we expect. After all the pressure to "win" everything must be intense so we'll all cut you some slack. Archbishop
We know where we rank in the list of tech2 producers in Eve archbishop, never you mind your little head about it.
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.20 23:00:00 -
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Who me? I'm not worried. I look forward to you posting those rankings here or providing a link as I'd love to see them. I'm sure with my measly five T2 BPO and the Zealot and Malediction production of PIE we're not high at all probably number 595 or something. Either way we don't consider ourselves better then anyone else because of it that would be unbridled arrogance after all. I know plenty of people who have one T2 BPO who do very well and I'm happy for them. I wouldn't think of myself as "extraordinary" becasue of anything save that I am Amarrian.
Still I'd like to see the rankings so please do tell. I'm sure everyone else here would like to see them as well.
Archbishop
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.20 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop
Who me? I'm not worried. I look forward to you posting those rankings here or providing a link as I'd love to see them. I'm sure with my measly five T2 BPO and the Zealot and Malediction production of PIE we're not high at all probably number 595 or something. Still I'd like to see the rankings so please do tell. I'm sure everyone else here would like to see them as well.
I've told you before Archbishop, we make as many tech2 ships for sale each week than you and your little helpers make tech1. Easier to say what we don't have at this point. But the reason I mention this of course is simply to refute your own crazed logic from a few posts ago. CVA might well have a greater tech2 production than PIE, but its a long way short of the big boys in the advanced technology market.
Try something else to hit us with Archbishop, your recent attacks have been an excercise in mediocrity to be brutally honest.
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.20 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: Archbishop on 20/05/2007 23:29:17
Quote: I've told you before Archbishop, we make as many tech2 ships for sale each week than you and your little helpers make tech1. Easier to say what we don't have at this point. But the reason I mention this of course is simply to refute your own crazed logic from a few posts ago. CVA might well have a greater tech2 production than PIE, but its a long way short of the big boys in the advanced technology market.
And you are one of the "big boys in advanced technology" then? Great to hear.
Now about those rankings? I'm sure you're just chomping at the bit to post them so you can humiliate the CVA and call them "failures as businessmen" as well. After all with their 70+ T2 BPO's I'm sure you're just walking all over them right? Heck I'm sure even NAGA doesn't have your influece on T2. Wow.
Archbishop
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.20 23:35:00 -
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Hmm that brings up another question then. I do quite a bit of T2 resale to other regions every now and then and I don't recall ever buying something from a member of Star Fraction (and I do check).
I know when I say I sell 500 ships a week I mean Archbishop and Gaius Vermillion our shipwright built and sold them and my name is on every one. I fly around in a Bestower and a Freighter myself delivering things to sell. Likewise I've purchased from CVA and their names are on every transaction record.
Where is the Star Fraction?
Archbishop
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.20 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop Now about those rankings? I'm sure you're just chomping at the bit to post them so you can humiliate the CVA and call them "failures as businessmen" as well. After all with their 70+ T2 BPO's I'm sure you're just walking all over them right? Heck I'm sure even NAGA doesn't have your influece on T2. Wow. Archbishop
NAGA and Khatred have a lot more than we do. We on the other hand have a lot more than the CVA. You might it a little embarrassing that your idols and protectors cannot match your hated rivals for high technology but I imagine they worry more about fighting wars in space. Sorry Archie, you are a failure as an industrialist and even trying to ride along on the (slightly ragged) coat-tails of your friends won't help you wash out the scent of mediocrity and lacklustre busy savvy.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.20 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop Where is the Star Fraction? For being such a T2 "big boy" you'd think in all these years of personally running to Jita twice a month and selling all over Amarr buying and reselling T2 I'd have bought at least one thing from your alliance.
Why on earth would you buy one of our fine spaceships - its not like you ever actually do much fighting is it ? 
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.20 23:50:00 -
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Edited by: Archbishop on 20/05/2007 23:49:37
Quote: Sorry Archie, you are a failure as an industrialist and even trying to ride along on the (slightly ragged) coat-tails of your friends won't help you wash out the scent of mediocrity and lacklustre busy savvy.
There's no need to get personal Jasmine after all I asked some honest questions. If you don't want to answer them thats fine. I see again you've resorted to personal insult and diversion to avoid answering a question but thats OK.
As for being a 'failure' I'd contend that people are only failures if they allow themselves to think of themselves that way. I'm very happy with my financial situation and my production prowess and sadly for you nothing you say will change that.
Don't forget after all I have many planetside duties and a company to run I don't have as much command interface time as I'd like. I'm lucky most weeks to get ten hours of ship command interface time anymore. But planetside duties have to take priority as there are bills to pay even for the faithful of God. I do realize some people have no planetside duties of merit or success but at least they can make up for those in space and feel better about themselves.
I will point out my latest sermon to you if you'd like a little religious reading this evening. Perhaps you'll give it a read and do some repenting? While it's for the benefit of Amarrians and not directed at anyone but them I don't mind if an anarchist like yourself takes a peek.
Quote: Why on earth would you buy one of our fine spaceships - its not like you ever actually do much fighting is it?
Actually you'll note I said I do T2 resale. I can build just about anything but I'm not even qualified in HACs. So the question stands if you'd care to answer it. If not that's fine too.
If you don't want to though just say you don't want to and dispense with the personal attacks and diversions please.
Archbishop
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.20 23:54:00 -
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Anyway it has been as intellectually stimulating as always Jasmine. I must retire for a few days of planetside duties so I will take my leave of you now.
Archbishop
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.20 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 20/05/2007 23:58:59
Originally by: Archbishop
Don't forget after all I have many planetside duties and a company to run I don't have as much command interface time as I'd like. I'm lucky most weeks to get ten hours of ship command interface time anymore. But planetside duties have to take priority as there are bills to pay even for the faithful of God. I do realize some people have no planetside duties of merit or success but at least they can make up for those in space and feel better about themselves.
What exactly are you trying to say here? It almost seems like you are claiming you lead some simulated other life away from the capsule and think your imaginary success there makes up for your total failure in the eve star cluster as a warrior, propagandist or industrial magnate? I confess to being confused - is this why you were unable to "defend the empire" in the recent war?
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Archbishop on 21/05/2007 00:05:05
Just that due to my continuous duties planetside I am not able to participate in combat operations as much as I'd prefer. Sitting behind a desk running a business isn't as stimulating as flying into combat aboard one of my Battleships yet it still must be done. I realize some have no planetside life, no family, no obligations, thus they are able to put forth much more effort in space for their Empire.
No one is better than the other as we all serve in our own way.
Sorry but I must retire for the evening now.
Archbishop
Edit for clarity: When I say planetside I mean home on Chaven or Tash-Murkon. The duties of administration are many. There is no "other life" outside the Eve cluster after all and I am certainly not ignorant enough to believe there is.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.21 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop
I realize some have no planetside life, no family, no obligations, thus they are able to put forth much more effort in space for their Empire.
Didn't see much evidence of this in the recent war ...
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Vantras
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 17:34:00 -
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This thread just about proves that Jasmine will argue about ANYTHING to maintain some level of relevance.
Lets push the theory a slight bit more....
Jasmine: "the best color in the universe is RED!"...
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Solusar
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Vantras This thread just about proves that Jasmine will argue about ANYTHING to maintain some level of relevance.
Lets push the theory a slight bit more....
Jasmine: "the best color in the universe is RED!"...
******s the whip*
Its quite clearly gold.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.21 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Vantras This thread just about proves that Jasmine will argue about ANYTHING to maintain some level of relevance. Lets push the theory a slight bit more.... Jasmine: "the best color in the universe is RED!"...
It actually proves that Archbishop is incapable of following the OP of announcement threads since if you'd care to look at his first post he makes the rather ridiculous (and incorrect) claim that by having a larger tech2 portfolio than SF (CVA) were somehow superior to us. Now I understand that Amarrian bloc loyalists are always blinkered to the faults of their companions but for the benefit of the neutral audience I'm always on hand to point out these little hypocrisies as they arise.
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Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.21 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
NAGA and Khatred have a lot more than we do. We on the other hand have a lot more than the CVA. You might find it a little embarrassing that your idols and protectors cannot match your hated rivals for high technology but I imagine they worry more about fighting wars in space. Sorry Archie, you are a failure as an industrialist and even trying to ride along on the (slightly ragged) coat-tails of your friends won't help you wash out the scent of mediocrity and lacklustre business savvy.
Without any proof (which you understandably won't give in any case) it's just hollow words. People know by now that you just have to be best at anything. 'Proof or STFU'. Your 'propaganda' and 'pysops' have recently fallen into medocrity, too. In fact you are getting very boring.
Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.21 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn Your 'propaganda' and 'pysops' have recently fallen into medocrity, too. In fact you are getting very boring.
And yet you just can't ignore it. Must be a very hollow life you lead Tharrn when you are endlessly drawn like a suicidal moth to the flame of our accomplishments to burn away your little wings ...
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Ruah Piskonit
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 04:12:00 -
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Edited by: Ruah Piskonit on 22/05/2007 04:12:29 It seems like SF takes a stab at the Loyalist block every year or so. . .
I am begining to think that this has become a ritual of some sort to commemorate something. After so many years, I fear I need to start keeping a record of which 'Operation' SF have thought up to pass the time - because they are all starting to sound the same to my old ears. ----
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KhanJohn
Amarr Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.22 09:37:00 -
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I must sya though from an outside perspective its great to watch you guys retort and rip each other new ones every five minutes
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Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.22 10:08:00 -
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I am happy for them to snipe away at each other in their own threads - it's when it spreads to all threads where Jasmine posts that it gets boring. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |

Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 10:21:00 -
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It is indeed unfortunate, chimp-breed, but Constantspins' vanity ensures her posting everywhere. ----------------------------------------------
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KhanJohn
Amarr Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.22 10:25:00 -
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perhaps we should make a CVA VERSUS SF THREAD
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Sidyous
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.22 10:28:00 -
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Edited by: Sidyous on 22/05/2007 10:27:50
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel ... even if it's the best thing the SF can do to make any impact what so ever, as they have little chance of even challenging CVA in a POS war without the support of more powerful entities.
We consider shooting the leader of the CVA out of his flashy command cruisers on a regular basis quite satisfying 
I'd like to see evidence of this. -----------------------------------------------
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.05.22 10:48:00 -
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Someone hand me the popcorn.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.22 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sidyous I'd like to see evidence of this.
You know where to look.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.22 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kade Jeekin I am happy for them to snipe away at each other in their own threads - it's when it spreads to all threads where Jasmine posts that it gets boring.
Sadly Kade, its all these guys can too. Having lost to us in space the galnet campaign of aggressively stalking their enemies and then calling them "irrelevant" seems to be the only thing left in their arsenal. Of course 24/7 forum spamming an enemy for its "irrelevence" is a logical flaw that only non-amarrian-nationalists seem to be able to spot ...
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