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Cpt Placeholder	Posted - 2007.05.20 13:42:00 - [1] I don't really remember when it got changed but somewhere along the RMR era you used to be able to fully zoom onto your ship or any object that could become the parent of the camera. Nowadays, as you all might have noticed, the minimum zooming distance depends on the ship you're piloting, not the actual parent object of the camera, so if you are flying a battleship at the moment, you won't be able to fully zoom into a frigate for example. So for those who used and knew both systems, basically what I'm asking is which camera style do you prefer ?
Forsch Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.20 13:52:00 - [2] I loved to watch the little drone guys doing their work up close! Forsch Defender of the empire
PredatorPT Stormlord Battleforce Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.20 13:53:00 - [3] I hate the new system. I miss watching small ships in detail, i can't even look at my carrier fighters doing their maneuvers with the current camera system.
Ecchus Minmatar Egbinger Mining Co	Posted - 2007.05.20 13:56:00 - [4] The thing I really hate about it is that it came in the same patch as the new bships/bcruisers. So you can't ever get a good close-up view of them if you're flying one. ========== Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.. - Melville.
LORD IZE	Posted - 2007.05.20 14:03:00 - [5] Plus having to reset my camera distance every fraking time I jump is a royal pain in the ass.
Mobius Amarr The Avalon Foundation	Posted - 2007.05.20 14:46:00 - [6] i hate the new camera. It was changed to fit with the new map which is still a disaster it needs changed back
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.05.20 15:15:00 - [7] Edited by: DubanFP on 20/05/2007 15:15:21 Originally by: Mobius i hate the new camera. It was changed to fit with the new map which is still a disaster it needs changed back Don't get me started on the new "cinimatic" zoom from ship to map. It takes so $@#$ long, it's a pain in the ass. I used to be able to instantly switch to map look at something and switch back to normal view so i could look around now i have to wait forever for it to zoom back in. And you also can't even go through a gate with the map open anymore or you end up somewhere between normal view and map view. Unable to see either until you close map "insert the new time consuming cinematic zoom" and then open map back up again. ____________ DubanFP > where ever there is a player that's getting too rich, wherever there's an industrial with too much loot, wherever there is a noob with too much smack we'll be there...
Treelox Amarr Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2007.05.20 15:18:00 - [8] I have to agree with ALL the above posters -- FTEK \| Production ~ Research ~ Sales ~ Omber Zombie's Wet Work
Zaphod Jones Minmatar Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.20 16:22:00 - [9] i'm not a great fan, I can't view close ups on the fighters at least I have http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/AWAR1/fighters_eh.wmv to remind me Celtic Anarchy is recruiting
Reecoh Soltar Gallente CTOB	Posted - 2007.05.20 16:35:00 - [10] Agreed, the new camera system is far worse than the previous one. It seems like the zoom is limited to the size of the ship you are in, rather than the size of the object you are viewing. I've noticed I can zoom in pretty well on things if I'm in a frig, but when I'm in a Battleship I can't zoom in nearly as far.
Durham Elysion Solar Wind Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.20 16:40:00 - [11] Hold Right mouse button, move mouse one pixel, then hold your left mouse button whilst moving your mouse up or down, to gain extra zoom. Just fyi :)
Kapoios Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.20 16:46:00 - [12] Originally by: Durham Elysion Hold Right mouse button, move mouse one pixel, then hold your left mouse button whilst moving your mouse up or down, to gain extra zoom. Just fyi :) i was going to say that but i think they mean the normal camera move. still some people might not know that feature no sig here
Nicholas Barker Caldari	Posted - 2007.05.20 17:17:00 - [13] i have to agree with the CCP guys though, it seemed like a good idea to me when i was drunk too. ---
Forsch Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.20 17:23:00 - [14] Originally by: Durham Elysion Hold Right mouse button, move mouse one pixel, then hold your left mouse button whilst moving your mouse up or down, to gain extra zoom. Just fyi :) Hehe, try getting a drone into your screen for more than half a second. Forsch Defender of the empire
Iggle Piggle	Posted - 2007.05.20 17:30:00 - [15] Originally by: Durham Elysion Hold Right mouse button, move mouse one pixel, then hold your left mouse button whilst moving your mouse up or down, to gain extra zoom. Just fyi :) Maximum zoom is still limited even using this. Fighters are Maxiumum only 1/10th the size of the screen using this on your carrier. Fact is that the camera zoom was knackered 6 months or so back.
Kodiak31415 An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.05.20 17:38:00 - [16] Proof that Newer isn't always better. The new map and camera system just plain suck. They do nothing better than the old system and do a lot worse. Wouldn't be so bad but CCP has just ignored it all. Is there anyone out there who would object to bringing back the old scanner, map, and camera controls? _______________________________ Pleese exucse any seplling erorr's in tihs psot
Erim Solfara Amarr Tarlos INC	Posted - 2007.05.20 21:59:00 - [17] Agreed, old map, old camera. Keep the system map somewhere for scanners and explorers etc, but have F10 launch the proper map by default. AND FIX THE GODDAM SUNS YOU HAD TO BREAK JUST TO GET THE 'SEAMLESS' MAP WORKING -_- New ship class
Oedus Caro Caldari Cross Roads	Posted - 2007.05.20 22:24:00 - [18] Originally by: Erim Solfara Agreed, old map, old camera. Keep the system map somewhere for scanners and explorers etc, but have F10 launch the proper map by default. AND FIX THE GODDAM SUNS YOU HAD TO BREAK JUST TO GET THE 'SEAMLESS' MAP WORKING -_- Agreed, although without quite so much shouting. I do like the new integrated star field, but the seamless map zoom is more trouble than it is worth. I really miss being able to focus the camera on smaller ships and drones, and the star effect! My God, CCP, bring it back... that effect was the best in the entire game.
Temporal Assassin Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.20 22:28:00 - [19] Originally by: Durham Elysion Hold Right mouse button, move mouse one pixel, then hold your left mouse button whilst moving your mouse up or down, to gain extra zoom. Just fyi :) Wait, thats not the only way to zoom? Complete noob Q, but whats the other way?
Sieges	Posted - 2007.05.20 23:07:00 - [20] Originally by: Durham Elysion Hold Right mouse button, move mouse one pixel, then hold your left mouse button whilst moving your mouse up or down, to gain extra zoom. Just fyi :) That is a great easter egg. Thanks. ----------- We need a way to Repackage and Transport Rigged Ships.
Vitrael Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.05.21 16:34:00 - [21] Bump. And yes, the first 2 times I saw it I though the seamless transition was cool. Now it just bothers me when it overlaps with a warp tunnel graphic and starts to confuse the game. Also, the star effect is broken and planets have had some weird graphical problems since that patch. The integrated starfield only nukes my FPS. New scanner is junk, need to have F11 open to know where I'm scanning. I'd like an option between the two interfaces. ----------
BoBoZoBo Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.05.21 16:57:00 - [22] Old I miss being able to zoom in on the smaller objects. Even the big ones. It was nice to get right up close and take cool screenshots from interestig angles. The new camera zoom level is booooooriiiiing ========================= Minister of Propaganda - Operator 9
Kahor Minmatar Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.21 17:03:00 - [23] I agree with all of the above. ---------------- An eye for an eye make a whole world blind.
Dread Operative Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.21 17:08:00 - [24] I'm fairly sure a mandatory remove-zoomin-after-jump statement goes here.
Trina Mador Minmatar	Posted - 2007.05.21 20:52:00 - [25] New zoom sucks big time.
Shiner BockBeer Go Go Gadget ForumPostingAlt	Posted - 2007.05.21 20:59:00 - [26] Originally by: Oedus Caro ... and the star effect! My God, CCP, bring it back... that effect was the best in the entire game. What star effect is this?
Ami Nizuo	Posted - 2007.05.21 20:59:00 - [27] Edited by: Ami Nizuo on 21/05/2007 20:58:14 alt post - comp at work ftl :)
MellaRinn Exit 13 Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.21 21:00:00 - [28] above = alt post ftl :( I have to agree with all the above posters that the new camera action is sadly nowhere near as good ass the previous one. Not to mention the new overview causing lag whenever yuor Item Info window is open and you click ANYTHING. It makes PVE hard and PVP almost impossible to conduct in the fastest possible manner without getting major lockage of the client (by ctrl+clicking to target, quick-nav buttons, etc) :( I guess it's like with the chat window, it always got a revamp with the new branches of the client and always some useful feature of it got the shft in the new one :) (see: highlighting all statements by hovered-over player, font, etc) My Vids - Click
Halock	Posted - 2007.05.21 21:16:00 - [29] for anyone complaining abou the transition time from map to game, you do know you can go into the options and either speed it up or remove it completly?
XenoPagan Khanid Provincial Vanguard Khanid Provincial Authority	Posted - 2007.05.21 21:41:00 - [30] I feel your pain, OP I'm that kind of character who takes pictures just for fun like rabid japanese tourist. and now, all the great shots of drones and frigates are lost because I have to do this right-click-hold-then-left-drag-thing and I'm losing the focus on the picture

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