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Harleigh
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 07:21:00 -
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Edited by: Harleigh on 21/05/2007 07:19:39 Edited by: Harleigh on 21/05/2007 07:19:15
Due to a number of reasons, most of which I have no intention of dragging out into the forums, Sparta has decided to pull back to a state of neutrality with respect to the ongoing war in the north.
This does NOT mean however, that a) we are resetting our current standings or b) that we are changing sides. Just in our best intrest we have decided to officially become neutral as we have not been actively engaged in coalition fleet operations for the last several weeks anyways.
Recently, there has been a lot of accusations about naps and changing sides. As an alliance that has been fiercly loyal during this entire campaign, this repetative questioning does not sit well with me or my command. We will continue to respect current blue standings unless we are notified of any changes as a result of this announcement.
We wish the best to all involved and we will be concentrating on the defence of our home systems as we continue to carve out a little corner of eve for ourselves. Our intention is to be in a defensive posture and basically, if you leave us alone, we will leave you alone ;)
If you have concerns or questions regarding this policy change, have your diplomat contact me.
As always, Spartans, remain out of these threads...
Let the trolling begin ...
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 07:24:00 -
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hey... this isnt how 300 ends! Your signature <----- My awsome Sig
Real men PVP on the Forums. |
Weka Dart
Caldari Band of Sisters
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Posted - 2007.05.21 07:28:00 -
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good decision, sensible man.
we will leave you alone.
just be sure to set standings with your 'new' residents as discussed. When I FC no-one wants to scout hehe. |
Harleigh
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Weka Dart
just be sure to set standings with your 'new' residents as discussed.
Hmm .. must have been drunk or slept through that discussion :)
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 07:44:00 -
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Edited by: R0ot on 21/05/2007 07:48:30 EDIT: nvm question answered (/me puts glasses on) ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Nyack
GREY COUNCIL Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 07:45:00 -
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Edited by: Nyack on 21/05/2007 07:45:14
Originally by: Harleigh
We wish the best to all involved and we will be concentrating on the defence of our home systems as we continue to carve out a little corner of eve for ourselves. Our intention is to be in a defensive posture and basically, if you leave us alone, we will leave you alone ;)
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SumDum
AirHawk Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 07:56:00 -
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Good luck you guys, may your fox holes be deep and the nights warm.
AHE wants YOU! |
Xiaodown
Lyran Procurement
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Posted - 2007.05.21 08:30:00 -
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... Tonite, we dine at home!
Good luck Sparta. All the best. -- Lyran procurement is offering trit and mixed-min compression services to 0.0 alliances. Free transport to 0.5+ systems, 1 jump 0.4 sys for 10M.
Contact me for details. Minimums apply. |
Asylum Seaker
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.21 08:32:00 -
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This is madness! Blasphemy!
The universe is hostile, so impersonal, devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been.
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Dave White
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 08:39:00 -
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Madness? THIS IS 0.0!!
CORA. Killboard Personal Killboard |
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DeathGrip
Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.21 08:40:00 -
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Who do I have to pod to get turned to pretty red again?
Good luck guys what ever you do, its always fun to fight you guys and probably the least smack talking alliance that I know of who gives respect to its enemy's when its due.
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Elliott Manchild
omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dave White Madness? THIS IS 0.0!!
*kicks dave into hole*
Your sig is too big, maximum size is 24000 bytes. Email us at [email protected] if you have any questions. - Devil Leave me be you evil mods =[ |
Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 09:11:00 -
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Neutrality eh? Good luck with that.
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pang0
Umokka Research and Technology Institute
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Posted - 2007.05.21 09:20:00 -
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First page in a BoB thread! Good luck Sparta and a special Hi to Confessor
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.21 09:31:00 -
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Good luck with that
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General Hansen
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2007.05.21 09:31:00 -
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Seldarine > its a shame that Sparta alliance is named after ppl who could actually fight
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Gutsani
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.05.21 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Harleigh
Just in our best intrest we have decided to officially become neutral as we have not been actively engaged in coalition fleet operations for the last several weeks anyways.
Isnt it like, your own fault if you havnt flewn with "The Coalition" lately? I mean, you decide what you do in EVE, right? So what i read is "Yeah, we havnt helped The Coalition lately cause we are *****s, and we kinda had hoped that Uncle BoB did us an offer, but well it didnt happen .. We hope that with setting The Coalition neutral they will contact us".
You actually kinda say that litterary by adding "our best interest" to it, how is this in your best interest; except for Uncle BoB? I hope they dont make you an offer .. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy! |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.21 09:43:00 -
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That's some impressive censorship right there, isn't ass more offensive than fann y?
GJ KIERON, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!
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Gutsani
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.05.21 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
GJ KIERON, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!
GIVE EM A TROPHY!!! ZOMGZOMGZOMG ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy! |
Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.05.21 10:02:00 -
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Long I will ponder your cryptic talk of victory.
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Kappas.
Galaxy Punks Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 10:10:00 -
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I see history really does repeat itself
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.21 10:13:00 -
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"All you must do is give Xerxes an offering of earth... earth and water."
--23 Member--
Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! |
Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari "All you must do is give Xerxes an offering of earth... earth and water."
/me looks at well... YOULL FIND PLENTY OF BOTH DOWN THERE! Your signature <----- My awsome Sig
Real men PVP on the Forums. |
Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.21 10:31:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 21/05/2007 10:29:30 Funny banner.
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Mark Lucius
Nomina Sacra Sapientia CORE.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 11:54:00 -
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I wanna say 'hi' to Confessor too. ---
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.05.21 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kappas. I see history really does repeat itself
I was thinking the same thing
Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition. |
Sacul
Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: General Hansen
Seldarine > its a shame that Sparta alliance is named after ppl who could actually fight
The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones! |
Liora Vahan
Gallente Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.05.21 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari "All you must do is give Xerxes an offering of earth... earth and water."
Or is he really Sexrex in disguise?
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Iva Soreass
FireStar Inc
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Posted - 2007.05.21 12:53:00 -
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Edited by: Iva Soreass on 21/05/2007 12:51:50 bah all the good "300" quotes have been used up /o\.
Damm you forum warriors!
**Edited** Oh forgot GL Sparta **
Originally by: Farscape Hw,GoonSwarm Member im not a goon
Evolution |
Munch
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.21 15:30:00 -
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Lol! Typical, reminds me of last year :p
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.05.21 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Iva Soreass Edited by: Iva Soreass on 21/05/2007 12:51:50 bah all the good "300" quotes have been used up /o\.
Damm you forum warriors!
**Edited** Oh forgot GL Sparta **
My heart... has been filled... with bistot. --
Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes - Devil ([email protected]) |
Crovan
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.21 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Munch Lol! Typical, reminds me of last year :p
At least they put up a fight and helped their allies. Go back to not wanting Deklein.
Originally by: Major Stormer
Quote: What should the MC do?
Make things explode.
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Munch
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.21 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Crovan
Originally by: Munch Lol! Typical, reminds me of last year :p
At least they put up a fight and helped their allies. Go back to not wanting Deklein.
Us being on the offensive for the last 6 months is exactly how not helping our allies? Don't try to sound like Sparta deserves to hold their stations when in fact they only made a sweet deal not to lose them.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.05.21 16:19:00 -
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Neutrality only works if you shoot everyone.
But GL anyways. -------------------------------------
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.05.21 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Munch
Originally by: Crovan
Originally by: Munch Lol! Typical, reminds me of last year :p
At least they put up a fight and helped their allies. Go back to not wanting Deklein.
Us being on the sucesslacking and useless offensive while not giving a damn for the north and not helping out in the defence until it was too late for the last 6 months is exactly how not helping our allies? Don't try to sound like Sparta deserves to hold their stations when in fact they only made a sweet deal not to lose them.
corrected that one for you. Sparta fought well but they see their future at stake and i guess they have the responsibilities right. First care about your alliance and your players then care about "the north" who did squat all in the war to deserve a sacrifies of your own future.
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Crovan
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.21 16:43:00 -
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Edited by: Crovan on 21/05/2007 16:42:49
Originally by: Munch
Originally by: Crovan
Originally by: Munch Lol! Typical, reminds me of last year :p
At least they put up a fight and helped their allies. Go back to not wanting Deklein.
Us being on the offensive for the last 6 months is exactly how not helping our allies? Don't try to sound like Sparta deserves to hold their stations when in fact they only made a sweet deal not to lose them.
Originally by: Habraka Haven't you heard? IRON is back up north to deal with McPet. The northern incursion of The Alliance has been halted, FLA/IRON and the Deklein residents are doing the cleanup.
So which is it, are you "on the offensive" or "dealing with" us? Also, your offense of ganking in Stain really has no impact on our operations up here. IRON has been all bark and no bite. I am usually not one to get involved in petty smack, but IRON has been very vocal on the forums lately assuring everyone that they are not dying. Who are you really trying to convince?
Also, six months? Has it really been November when IRON attacked Q? Damn, how time flies.
Sweet deal for Sparta? I doubt the total apathy of 90% of the north toward their neighbors and the consequence it has forced them to tastes very sweet atm. Also, D2 thought Sparta deserved those stations when they handed them over. Also, for the moment we say Sparta can keep their stations, and as the dominant, nearly unchallenged force in the area, I think our opinion matters more than an alliance whose primary contribution to the northern part of this war have been chestbeating and grandiose empty threats on EVE-O.
Originally by: Major Stormer
Quote: What should the MC do?
Make things explode.
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Munch
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.21 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Munch
Originally by: Crovan
Originally by: Munch Lol! Typical, reminds me of last year :p
At least they put up a fight and helped their allies. Go back to not wanting Deklein.
Us being on the sucesslacking and useless offensive while not giving a damn for the north and not helping out in the defence until it was too late for the last 6 months is exactly how not helping our allies? Don't try to sound like Sparta deserves to hold their stations when in fact they only made a sweet deal not to lose them.
corrected that one for you. Sparta fought well but they see their future at stake and i guess they have the responsibilities right. First care about your alliance and your players then care about "the north" who did squat all in the war to deserve a sacrifies of your own future.
I knew posting here is just gonna turn into sensless flame and people turning words around. It doesn't matter how the outside sees it, we did what we thought was right, did it go the way we planned, definately not. At the current rate corps/alliances are switching sides though, there will be nobody left for Bob/Mc to fight. Call it survival or thinking about their future, but in my eyes that's just going to "the other side". I respect their right to have a choice, afterall each alliance should be entitled to make own decisions. I am simply questioning thier whole neutral stance, which was exactly the same as claimed last year during the NFC war. Anyways, next time you quote me please try using your own words rather then just turning mine around. Alittle bit more constructive posts would be appreciated. Good day
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Munch
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.21 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Crovan Edited by: Crovan on 21/05/2007 16:42:49
Originally by: Munch
Originally by: Crovan
Originally by: Munch Lol! Typical, reminds me of last year :p
At least they put up a fight and helped their allies. Go back to not wanting Deklein.
Us being on the offensive for the last 6 months is exactly how not helping our allies? Don't try to sound like Sparta deserves to hold their stations when in fact they only made a sweet deal not to lose them.
Originally by: Habraka Haven't you heard? IRON is back up north to deal with McPet. The northern incursion of The Alliance has been halted, FLA/IRON and the Deklein residents are doing the cleanup.
So which is it, are you "on the offensive" or "dealing with" us? Also, your offense of ganking in Stain really has no impact on our operations up here. IRON has been all bark and no bite. I am usually not one to get involved in petty smack, but IRON has been very vocal on the forums lately assuring everyone that they are not dying. Who are you really trying to convince?
Also, six months? Has it really been November when IRON attacked Q? Damn, how time flies.
Sweet deal for Sparta? I doubt the total apathy of 90% of the north toward their neighbors and the consequence it has forced them to tastes very sweet atm. Also, D2 thought Sparta deserved those stations when they handed them over. Also, for the moment we say Sparta can keep their stations, and as the dominant, nearly unchallenged force in the area, I think our opinion matters more than an alliance whose primary contribution to the northern part of this war have been chestbeating and grandiose empty threats on EVE-O.
Te be quite honest i am simply embarrassed by probably 99% of posts Habraka makes. I remember going berserk on him after he posted that. Now back on subject, we been down in stain over a year ago. I am quite surprised you don't remember us in querious, especially after some good fights we had with you guys. We've been at war with Fix since late December and that's where we've been for 6 months.
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ChalSto
The Galactic Empire Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.21 17:10:00 -
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ok...
Evil will allways triumph, becouse Good is dumb
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:12:00 -
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Munch I love ya, but arguing with the CAOD muppet brigade is just not worth it.
Everything you say will just be twisted and contorted.
Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition. |
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Fabrice Enchante
Gallente Active Measures
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:33:00 -
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Anyone who reads CAOD knows it is not possible to be neutral in EVE. Of course, no one really reads it, only posts (me included). ================<ACTME>======================= Solutions to problems require Active Measures. |
Elfaen Ethenwe
Eternal Rising EternalRising
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:35:00 -
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Edited by: El**** Ethenwe on 21/05/2007 19:34:59 its a shame i dont live in dek anymore. cause i quite enjoyed kicking your backside out of the north last time. i give you three months max. EDIT- you did however fight hard in this war. For that i respect you more than i did. ----------------------------------------------- logoffski is bad mmmk?
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Wrok
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:41:00 -
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Intresting. \ |
MAD D0G
Caldari Ganksters Paradise EternalRising
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:42:00 -
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Edited by: MAD D0G on 21/05/2007 19:41:55 Edited by: MAD D0G on 21/05/2007 19:41:29 not unexpected so this guy was correct then
Linkage
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Harleigh
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: MAD D0G Edited by: MAD D0G on 21/05/2007 19:41:55 Edited by: MAD D0G on 21/05/2007 19:41:29 not unexpected so this guy was correct then
Linkage
Nothing has changed from my post in that thread .. do not confuse my statement of pulling from the coalition with standings changes people.
Our standings have not changed at this point .. just our official membership as a coalition member.
MC = red to sparta -y- = red to sparta xelas = red to sparta bob = red to sparta D2 = blue iron = blue MM = blue rzr = blue goon = blue
These standings will remain in effect unless i am contacted by a blue to change thier standings ..
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Crax McGee
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:51:00 -
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MEGALOLZs at you.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Xiaodown
... Tonite, we dine at home!
Good luck Sparta. All the best.
I lol'd really really hard --------
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Chou Yung
Energy.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 20:08:00 -
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I think that in the grand scheme of things this was the right thing to do. Sparta has always wanted to be independant in deklein ever since i was in it almost a year ago. I beleive that now D2 is falling and FLA have taken a hint and died you may finally be able to get some security. Be aware and dont trust any1 and i think you wil do fine, good to have you bak in charge harleigh. Chou.
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dastommy79
Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: dastommy79 on 21/05/2007 20:12:45 ^^^ I'm not dead yet, was merly a flesh wound
Am i still blue? Otherwise i probably shouldnt have moved all 2 ships i had left from the motel defence to your stations. GL to ya either way, you got some bad ass pilots and it has been a pleasure fighting along side ya.
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Irongut
M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2007.05.22 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk That's some impressive censorship right there, isn't ass more offensive than fann y?
GJ KIERON, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!
Depends if you're speaking American or English. In English the later is a different part of the body, generally considered to be a worse swear word.
GL Sparta, I think you're going to need it coz neutrality is very difficult to maintain.
My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
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Bigeasy
Caldari Shadow Of The Light R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.22 03:16:00 -
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Edited by: Bigeasy on 22/05/2007 03:15:36 Edited by: Bigeasy on 22/05/2007 03:14:46 http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=254936
Sorry couldent resist :)
Cheers Sparta
Big
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Striike Rouge
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Posted - 2007.05.22 06:12:00 -
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You seriously think that once BoB has finished off the coalition they'll just go home and let you keep your space? You will either swear allegiance to them or they will wipe you off the face of the map like everyone else. If you don't fight now, fighting later isn't going to save you. They've stated time and time again that they wish to control all of 0.0. Are all these alliances like Sparta really stupid enough to think if they just keep their heads down maybe BoB won't notice them and leave them alone?
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NOObbody
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.22 06:54:00 -
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I just wonder what all these pet alliances, that have just recently gotten a very big mouth compared to their abilities, will do, when mc has other business to do, then providing a capital strikeforce north of jita. --- I was sworn to absolute secrecy! |
Feawina
Ducks of DooM
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Posted - 2007.05.22 07:15:00 -
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i gues you just answeared the question about MC ever being out off work....
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Tree Fiddy
Caldari Heretic Entity
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Posted - 2007.05.22 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: NOObbody I just wonder what all these pet alliances, that have just recently gotten a very big mouth compared to their abilities, will do, when mc has other business to do, then providing a capital strikeforce north of jita.
How is Jita btw?
I say I ain't giving you no tree fiddy you goddamned Loch Ness monster. |
Cephias Caine
Steel Battalion
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Posted - 2007.05.22 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: Crovan
Originally by: Munch Lol! Typical, reminds me of last year :p
At least they put up a fight and helped their allies. Go back to not wanting Deklein.
Here, Here! for once I agree with MC! Thanks for leaving your residents out on a limb IRON! It was always a pleasure NOT flying with you. o/
Cephias Caine
Commissar Captain R4 IF YOU NEVER TEST YOUR FAITH HOW CAN YOU BE SURE IT IS THERE? STICK YOUR HAND INTO THE FIRE EVERY NOW AND THEN TO REMIND YOURSELF.
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Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.05.22 10:23:00 -
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Gave the thread a little spring clean. - Thanks Hutch. ____
forum rules | [email protected] | ME
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.05.22 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Cephias Caine
Here, Here! for once I agree with MC! Thanks for leaving your residents out on a limb IRON! It was always a pleasure NOT flying with you. o/
Cephias Caine
Sorry, but I have to quote this hogwash.
If you really want to know why the North has been overrun so swiftly, look no further than this post. If the North's residents were as dedicated as BoB's, we'd be in NOL by now. Outside of just a few of the Northern resident corps/alliances, nobody from the North except the space-holding alliances was willing to help their friends fight in the South.
Contrast this with the South, where the residents were actively engaged in the defense of their space, and now are all helping invade the North, and it's not hard to see why it's gone as swiftly as it has. I've given the "pets" alot of grief over the course of this thing for various reasons, but if nothing else, they are loyal.
If you wait until the enemy is at your doorstep to fight, don't get mad because your house burns down in the process. -------------------------------------
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Alberta
Gallente Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.22 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari "All you must do is give Xerxes an offering of earth... earth and water."
I thought it had been shown quite conclusively that slinging mud at us has little to no effect.
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Pattonator
CRICE Corporation Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.22 13:07:00 -
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Quote: MC = red to sparta -y- = red to sparta xelas = red to sparta bob = red to sparta D2 = blue iron = blue MM = blue rzr = blue goon = blue
Darn- we don't even get a mention. |
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Bogeye
Minmatar Deep Space Exploration Squad
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Posted - 2007.05.22 14:06:00 -
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Feiglinge. The Pain in your Ass. |
Cephias Caine
Steel Battalion
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Posted - 2007.05.22 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Cephias Caine
Here, Here! for once I agree with MC! Thanks for leaving your residents out on a limb IRON! It was always a pleasure NOT flying with you. o/
Cephias Caine
Sorry, but I have to quote this hogwash.
If you really want to know why the North has been overrun so swiftly, look no further than this post. If the North's residents were as dedicated as BoB's, we'd be in NOL by now. Outside of just a few of the Northern resident corps/alliances, nobody from the North except the space-holding alliances was willing to help their friends fight in the South.
Oh, well that would have been nice... had we actually been asked...
If you wait until the enemy is at your doorstep to fight, don't get mad because your house burns down in the process.
Gee thanks mister! next time I get confronted with a fleet of 195 (50%+ Caps), and I have a local count of 12 friendlies(total, only 5 of these in my corp) I'll be sure to undock and pew pew!
didn't see you in cloud ring bud...
didn't see you in Deklein...
maybe you should check our kill-board and see the evidence, b4 you spout poo poo. maybe, you should just stop anyway.
I think the difference between us and the southern residents is startlingly obvious, they have leadership to be inspired by, DESPITE their faults. We on the other hand have Forum Trolls like you to aspire to! Thank my lucky stars!
Sheesh and we have the arrogance to be insulted and puzzled when people change sides?
Commissar Captain R4 IF YOU NEVER TEST YOUR FAITH HOW CAN YOU BE SURE IT IS THERE? STICK YOUR HAND INTO THE FIRE EVERY NOW AND THEN TO REMIND YOURSELF.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.22 15:56:00 -
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I guess I'll go ahead and reset standings with sparta then.
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Escobar Noreaga
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.05.22 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Cephias Caine
Cephias Caine
maybe you should check our kill-board and see the evidence, b4 you spout poo poo. maybe, you should just stop anyway.
just checked youre killboard, out of 5 ships that you guys destroyed this Month 1 was in YA0-XJ
great job there skippy.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.05.22 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Cephias Caine Oh, well that would have been nice... had we actually been asked...
Nobody ever asked us to go South and fight either. It's called supporting your allies...you prove my own point in your rebuttal.
Quote: Gee thanks mister! next time I get confronted with a fleet of 195 (50%+ Caps), and I have a local count of 12 friendlies(total, only 5 of these in my corp) I'll be sure to undock and pew pew!
Again, thanks for supporting my post. The time to fight was when the enemy was down, not when they have 195 outside your station.
Quote: didn't see you in cloud ring bud...
didn't see you in Deklein...
maybe you should check our kill-board and see the evidence, b4 you spout poo poo. maybe, you should just stop anyway.
I'm sure your random ganking in Catch, lowsec, and podding noobcorps in Pure Blind was a great help to undermining the morale of the Alliance. In fact it looks like you went out of your way to avoid the war until it caught up with you.
But we weren't doing anything during that time:
Campaign details - Querious - Closed Start date: 2007-01-01 End date: 2007-04-24 Kills: 1451 Losses: 106 Damage done (ISK): 31270.208001M Damage received (ISK): 2102.908M Runtime: 113 days Efficiency: 93.7%
Campaign details - Northern Purge Start date: 2007-04-23 End date: 2007-05-16 Kills: 64 Losses: 7 Damage done (ISK): 1573.288M Damage received (ISK): 120.808M Runtime: 23 days Efficiency: 92.87%
Mind you the Querious stats are largely influenced by working closely with IRON and other allies, since we actually supported them instead of waiting at home to be rescued. -------------------------------------
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Astarte Nosferatu
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.22 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz I guess I'll go ahead and reset standings with sparta then.
Seems the most sensible thing to do.
Originally by: Dianabolic I was sworn to absolute secrecy by CCP
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Angor
The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.22 17:38:00 -
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Edited by: Angor on 22/05/2007 17:39:05 Posts like this kind of annoy me.
First lets start with how an "enemy" such as sparta has suddenly abandoned their allies but still keeps them blue (which means their most likely still going to attack alliance members).
They make a deal to keep their space, possibly paying MC to leave them alone? Not to meantion they name all their ships 300 in an attempt to seem themselves as great fighers?
What i do know is that if the coalition had got as far as they said they would and then alliances like FIX, Xelas and even my own alliance had said "oh we're out of this now, leave us alone" do you REALLY think they would take any notice??? Would they hell, they'd remove us like LV.
So what I want to know is why Sparta is so special that they get to keep their space just because they say "oh sorry for shooting you, but we're not defending D2 anymore, so dont invade our space". Nobody forced them to join the coalition so why do they get to keep their space again?
IMHO Sparta space has tactical advantage on attacking D2's northern area's it'd be stupid to leave them there. _______________________________
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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.22 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Angor
So what I want to know is why Sparta is so special that they get to keep their space just because they say "oh sorry for shooting you, but we're not defending D2 anymore, so dont invade our space". Nobody forced them to join the coalition so why do they get to keep their space again?
IMHO Sparta space has tactical advantage on attacking D2's northern area's it'd be stupid to leave them there.
If you don't like them then why don't you just kill them? Who's stopping you? The way you posted makes it sound as if someone has a leash around you. Maybe your post should have been directed towards your superiors on private forums. __________________________________________________ I survived CCP eating all my sigs and all I got was a crappy colorful moderator message...
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Harleigh
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.22 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Harleigh on 22/05/2007 18:41:23
Originally by: NATMav If you really want to know why the North has been overrun so swiftly, look no further than this post. If the North's residents were as dedicated as BoB's, we'd be in NOL by now. Outside of just a few of the Northern resident corps/alliances, nobody from the North except the space-holding alliances was willing to help their friends fight in the South.
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Ok .. so your saying we did nothing to contribute ?
Sparta went from 3 guys in FIO to a 350 man alliance in 4 weeks based in fountain, fielding 12 battlestars in combat and racking up 2000 killmails for 400 losses during 3 months on forward deployment ?
I'm sorry but I needed to set the record straight. Sparta takes great pride in their accomplishments and I think we did our fair share given our relative size to the other members. Troll all you want .. no one can take that away from us and it is something we intend to continue, only this time as an independent entity.
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.05.22 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 22/05/2007 18:46:48
Originally by: Harleigh Edited by: Harleigh on 22/05/2007 18:41:23
Originally by: NATMav
If you really want to know why the North has been overrun so swiftly, look no further than this post. If the North's residents were as dedicated as BoB's, we'd be in NOL by now. Outside of just a few of the Northern resident corps/alliances, nobody from the North except the space-holding alliances was willing to help their friends fight in the South.
Ok .. so your saying we did nothing to contribute ?
Sparta went from 3 guys in FIO to a 350 man alliance in 4 weeks based in fountain, fielding 12 battlestars in combat and racking up 2000 killmails for 400 losses during 3 months on forward deployment ?
I'm sorry but I needed to set the record straight. Sparta takes great pride in their accomplishments and I think we did our fair share given our relative size to the other members. Troll all you want .. no one can take that away from us and it is something we intend to continue, only this time as an independent entity.
Mav wasn't talking about you guys, mate.
He was talking to the muppet that was badmouthing IRON. The resident that actually did contribute nothing to the campaign.
We know where you were and what you've done. No need to defend yourself, he wasn't addressing Sparta.
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Gutsani
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.05.22 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Harleigh
MC = red to sparta -y- = red to sparta xelas = red to sparta bob = red to sparta D2 = blue iron = blue MM = blue rzr = blue goon = blue
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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.22 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Gutsani
Arhm, your post says you went neutral to everyone, now you still claim to be blue? Difficult deciding who would *****you most?
They withdrew from the war and do not wish to be part of it. It doesn't really have much to do with actual standings in respect to individuals. I suppose it does look odd though when your enemies are all around you because they just killed your allies. But it's Sparta's choice to do what they want. __________________________________________________ I survived CCP eating all my sigs and all I got was a crappy colorful moderator message...
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.05.22 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Mav wasn't talking about you guys, mate.
He was talking to the muppet that was badmouthing IRON. The resident that actually did contribute nothing to the campaign.
We know where you were and what you've done. No need to defend yourself, he wasn't addressing Sparta.
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Forever Free
Caldari Antipodean inc. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.22 21:42:00 -
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cedit]Edited by: Angor on 22/05/2007 17:39:05 Posts like this kind of annoy me.
First lets start with how an "enemy" such as sparta has suddenly abandoned their allies but still keeps them blue (which means their most likely still going to attack alliance members).
Alliance Memebers? Not really a factor! Considering they are 10 Jumps away and hostile. Why would we want to go anywhere else to pew pew reds? Only difference is we dont see them as Alliance Memebers anymore, just neighbours with guns. Pew pew for all!
Originally by: Angor They make a deal to keep their space, possibly paying MC to leave them alone? Not to meantion they name all their ships 300 in an attempt to seem themselves as great fighers?
Love your unbaised speculation there. So what next? We unleash a secert plague to take out D2? Hrrm good idea!
Originally by: Angor What i do know is that if the coalition had got as far as they said they would and then alliances like FIX, Xelas and even my own alliance had said "oh we're out of this now, leave us alone" do you REALLY think they would take any notice??? Would they hell, they'd remove us like LV.
Sadly unlike you we dont have a "0900 OMGMCANDBOBCOMESAVEUS" number so we do what we gotta do.
Originally by: Angor So what I want to know is why Sparta is so special that they get to keep their space just because they say "oh sorry for shooting you, but we're not defending D2 anymore, so dont invade our space". Nobody forced them to join the coalition so why do they get to keep their space again?
IMHO Sparta space has tactical advantage on attacking D2's northern area's it'd be stupid to leave them there.
Okay so really as far as I can tell your only posting that cause your jealous. Its understandable, the hookers and booze chucked on by the Sparta Leadership is hawt and the entertainment nights are great but really you dont have to take your pet hate out on us.
Sparta Special? Thats what my momma said. Tactical advantage? Sweet baby Jesus! Have you seen Northern Dek? FLA had the tactical space and that was taken. Spartan Space is crap, crap for ISK and crap for Capitals. But you didnt know that did you, just trying to sound like you acutally know that. Sure we connect up with the arse end of Branch but as you know its Capital Online now and Support fleets can spend just as much time going through Venal as North Dek and Cap's cant even go from Sparta Space to Branch without *Drumroll* going through enemy held space which your friends already hold.
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Angor
The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: Angor on 22/05/2007 22:53:27
Originally by: Forever Free cedit]Edited by: Angor on 22/05/2007 17:39:05 Posts like this kind of annoy me.
First lets start with how an "enemy" such as sparta has suddenly abandoned their allies but still keeps them blue (which means their most likely still going to attack alliance members).
Alliance Memebers? Not really a factor! Considering they are 10 Jumps away and hostile. Why would we want to go anywhere else to pew pew reds? Only difference is we dont see them as Alliance Memebers anymore, just neighbours with guns. Pew pew for all!
Originally by: Angor They make a deal to keep their space, possibly paying MC to leave them alone? Not to meantion they name all their ships 300 in an attempt to seem themselves as great fighers?
Love your unbaised speculation there. So what next? We unleash a secert plague to take out D2? Hrrm good idea!
Originally by: Angor What i do know is that if the coalition had got as far as they said they would and then alliances like FIX, Xelas and even my own alliance had said "oh we're out of this now, leave us alone" do you REALLY think they would take any notice??? Would they hell, they'd remove us like LV.
Sadly unlike you we dont have a "0900 OMGMCANDBOBCOMESAVEUS" number so we do what we gotta do.
Originally by: Angor So what I want to know is why Sparta is so special that they get to keep their space just because they say "oh sorry for shooting you, but we're not defending D2 anymore, so dont invade our space". Nobody forced them to join the coalition so why do they get to keep their space again?
IMHO Sparta space has tactical advantage on attacking D2's northern area's it'd be stupid to leave them there.
Okay so really as far as I can tell your only posting that cause your jealous. Its understandable, the hookers and booze chucked on by the Sparta Leadership is hawt and the entertainment nights are great but really you dont have to take your pet hate out on us.
Sparta Special? Thats what my momma said. Tactical advantage? Sweet baby Jesus! Have you seen Northern Dek? FLA had the tactical space and that was taken. Spartan Space is crap, crap for ISK and crap for Capitals. But you didnt know that did you, just trying to sound like you acutally know that. Sure we connect up with the arse end of Branch but as you know its Capital Online now and Support fleets can spend just as much time going through Venal as North Dek and Cap's cant even go from Sparta Space to Branch without *Drumroll* going through enemy held space which your friends already hold.
*sigh* jealous of what? yeah you do connect to d2 space so that to me is a tactical advantage, but your right yeah that space is pretty much taken now.
as for the rest of my post, I was simply stating the obvious... i would love to see you and your EX coalition buddies (if they had put their balls where their mouths are and actually worked together to take control of fountian) to have left an area of space alone thats full of hostiles just because they say "oh sorry we're to ***** to die like men, please dont kill us".
Admit it, you wouldnt have left an alliance in space you were conquring just because they said they werent fighting for bob anymore would you?
TBH you'd have gotten more respect dying like the true sparta name that you stole for your alliance than doing what your doing now... but i understand, i really do, you want to stay in 0.0 so if abandoning your friends is what saves your hides then great... but who will trust you now?
Now i dont speak for my alliance or any of the northern alliances but just because MC said that they wont invade doesnt mean that others cant. _______________________________
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Sooshie
Gallente The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.05.23 08:52:00 -
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Well I've been reading this thread here and have to toss in my 2 cents.
I'd have to say Nxt Level Alliance agrees to and supports Sparta's position on remaining neutral in war. We have pulled back to a neutral positon - we will openly fight and engage bob/MC pilots that are flying through our areas and defend ourselves against random ship to ship fights but we arnt going to committ large fleets/capitals. Why? Simply.. We have offered in the past to FLA, IRON and D2 many offers to assist them. They were the alliances that should be setting the bar for the northern coalition and working with other alliance directors to get intra-alliance fleets combined etc. I sent multiple messages to D2, multiple messages to FLA.. and Iron. The only ones to ever respond were Iron and they simply recommended to stay neutral... When IRONS homeland was hit we were ready to fight with everything we had to defend our closest ally.. But neutrality was instead recommended. D2 has showed a total lack of communications and leadership to form with other alliances.. They seem to under-rate the usefullness of the 25-35 or so nap'd blue alliances they have and the big fleets they could combine when unified... So why should Sparta take the Axe for their mistakes?
Well not trying to start a whole new debate here.. But as a director of another alliance thats on the sidelines of all of the northern attacks/developments we can pretty much see eye to eye with sparta's decision.
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Eric Nolani
Valiant Logistics Inc. Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.23 09:14:00 -
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Interesting...seems diplomacy and alliance-alliance communication is one of the big determining factors in these wars. ------------------------------------------- ôDoesnÆt it **** you off to be beat at your own game!ö û MUDVAYNE æSilencedÆ |
Paltar
Eternal Rising EternalRising
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Posted - 2007.05.23 10:47:00 -
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Have to say as Director of EternalRising, I to empathise with NXT LeveL and Sparta.
We tried to join the war effort.. we even managed to get involved for a while and kick some ass.
But the alliances involved who should have been setting the bar and leading by example couldn't really be arsed to sort the little guys out and make sure standings were set, or give them some direction where their efforts were needed.
SO everyone sat around dotting for gang and squabbled over 3-f when someone managed to gather the coherency to get a gang sorted instead of "waiting for a fleet commander".
Once the tide swung north, we'd already seen it was going horribly wrong - you didn't need to be socrates to see attrition was about to kick in hard.
So we took our leave of the north and i'm sure all sorts of people can put all sorts of conjecture on it, but at the end of the day, nobody that remained in the north was proactive about combatting the invaders and so the fight was lost before it started.
Leaving turned out to be the best move we've made in a long time - i've not seen a capital ships aside of on scanner or hauling my s**t since we went mercinary/freelance. And we've been having alot of fun pvping and chilling out while temperatures run hot everywhere else.
The Great war should have been epic... - aside of some pretty battle reports and grinding lag I think it was just epically *snip* for most people.
But good luck Sparta should be an interesting time for you guys regardless of who "Wins" the war.
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Slinktress
Gallente legion of qui Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.23 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Sooshie Well I've been reading this thread here and have to toss in my 2 cents.
I'd have to say Nxt Level Alliance agrees to and supports Sparta's position on remaining neutral in war. We have pulled back to a neutral positon - we will openly fight and engage bob/MC pilots that are flying through our areas and defend ourselves against random ship to ship fights but we arnt going to committ large fleets/capitals. Why? Simply.. We have offered in the past to FLA, IRON and D2 many offers to assist them. They were the alliances that should be setting the bar for the northern coalition and working with other alliance directors to get intra-alliance fleets combined etc. I sent multiple messages to D2, multiple messages to FLA.. and Iron. The only ones to ever respond were Iron and they simply recommended to stay neutral... When IRONS homeland was hit we were ready to fight with everything we had to defend our closest ally.. But neutrality was instead recommended. D2 has showed a total lack of communications and leadership to form with other alliances.. They seem to under-rate the usefullness of the 25-35 or so nap'd blue alliances they have and the big fleets they could combine when unified... So why should Sparta take the Axe for their mistakes?
Well not trying to start a whole new debate here.. But as a director of another alliance thats on the sidelines of all of the northern attacks/developments we can pretty much see eye to eye with sparta's decision.
Sooshie? When it was appropriate and not a waste of capitals FLA has been in touch with you regularly and directly. As O-2 was being taken, intel channels were spammed appropriately. Your assistance is always much appreciated as is your open and friendly communication. Please do be in touch with us on this new declaration for neutrality and if it effects any changes. Thanks much.
Sparta is still under nonagression pact with FLA. Please feel free to be in touch.
Best wishes to the future of The North.
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NykoMe
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.24 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: NykoMe on 24/05/2007 23:10:19
Originally by: Harleigh
Sparta went from 3 guys in FIO to a 350 man alliance in 4 weeks based in fountain, fielding 12 battlestars in combat and racking up 2000 killmails for 400 losses during 3 months on forward deployment ?
If you are referring to your campaign in fountain, yes you did very well there m8, although please don't over exaggerate your own killboard stats, as they clearly show 1021 to 322 losses now i get your round up your losses to 400 as we all have people in each of our alliances that don't post losses, but round up your kills from 1021 to 2000 is a bit much, in fact your own board only states a total of 2764 kills All-Time.
Yes your ratio is still very impressive and you were good craic to fight but please don't over exaggerate.
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Harleigh
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.25 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: NykoMe Edited by: NykoMe on 24/05/2007 23:10:19
Originally by: Harleigh
Sparta went from 3 guys in FIO to a 350 man alliance in 4 weeks based in fountain, fielding 12 battlestars in combat and racking up 2000 killmails for 400 losses during 3 months on forward deployment ?
If you are referring to your campaign in fountain, yes you did very well there m8, although please don't over exaggerate your own killboard stats, as they clearly show 1021 to 322 losses now i get your round up your losses to 400 as we all have people in each of our alliances that don't post losses, but round up your kills from 1021 to 2000 is a bit much, in fact your own board only states a total of 2764 kills All-Time.
Yes your ratio is still very impressive and you were good craic to fight but please don't over exaggerate.
You are absolutely right .. apologies .. i wrote the post as a quick rebuke and I will correct my numbers .. was not intentional .. but on the flipside .. for the speed in which we pulled the alliance out of retirement . we did well for our selves ;)
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VBboy
The Phoenix Rising Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.25 09:44:00 -
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Sparta waiting to see what happens in the MC/D2 conquest. Whhoo Sar - the North is on Fire again.
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Harleigh
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.26 16:55:00 -
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Well ..
For the last couple of weeks Sparta has remained in their home system staying out of the conflict as we indicated and maintained blue standings as promised.
Seems that after MM went and shot a Spartan, they have now indicated to us that they have set Sparta neutral.
Koth is also claiming that IRON / D2 / and RZR have also reset standings ..
Does anyone have the ballz to actually acknowledge the standings change or were you going to wait untill after you started shooting up people who have you blue on their overview to let us know?
I await your reply .
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Viper ShizzIe
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.26 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Harleigh 1000+ killmails for 400 losses during 3 months on forward deployment ?
I'm sorry but I needed to set the record straight. Sparta takes great pride in their accomplishments and I think we did our fair share given our relative size to the other members. Troll all you want .. no one can take that away from us and it is something we intend to continue, only this time as an independent entity.
Wonder how many of those killmails had my name on them
Either way, best of luck to Sparta in the future. Sad that I won't get access to my stuff locked up in UEJX now, though.
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Aramark
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.26 17:21:00 -
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sad. sparta has sided with bob --------------------------------------------------- "Roses are red, Violets are blue, I'm a developer, are you one too?" |
Harleigh
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.26 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Aramark sad. sparta has sided with bob
on what planet does keeping d2 blue and shooting southeners equate to siding with BOB ? .. if I end up reseting D2 standings over this it will be by your choice not mine ..
I still await an official response ..
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar Fist of the Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.26 18:03:00 -
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Sparta space up for grab then? Cuz noone will help them defend them... *whistles*
Any alliance wanna go for a region, here is your chance, none of the bigger guys will interfear....*whistles again* _______________________________________________ Beer, Eve and no shaved babes!!! is that oki then? My slogans always gets nerfed \o/ Oh a new one: Beer, eve and play neekid!! |
Goktar illiat
Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.05 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: Goktar illiat on 05/06/2007 16:53:17
Originally by: Harleigh
Originally by: Aramark sad. sparta has sided with bob
on what planet does keeping d2 blue and shooting southeners equate to siding with BOB ? .. if I end up reseting D2 standings over this it will be by your choice not mine ..
I still await an official response ..
Its the future he speaks of (spoke) guess it aint future now
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Cupdeez
Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.05 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: Cupdeez on 05/06/2007 16:59:14 Looks like Sparta is ready to become BOB pets....
I'm sure its not anything expensive prob like 15-20% on all your refined items.
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.06.05 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav Neutrality only works if you shoot everyone.
But GL anyways.
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.06.05 17:33:00 -
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Quote:
TBH you'd have gotten more respect dying like the true sparta name that you stole for your alliance than doing what your doing now... but i understand, i really do, you want to stay in 0.0 so if abandoning your friends is what saves your hides then great... but who will trust you now?
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Astarte Nosferatu
MBN Holding Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.05 17:47:00 -
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I thought the Spartans fought and died, not make deals with the enemy to abandon their allies in order to save their homes.
Oh well, I've seen 300, and for a second there I actually thought Sparta Alliance would at least try to live up to the Spartan way. Guess I was wrong.
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