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Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Limited Expectations
270
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Posted - 2017.07.12 00:41:35 -
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Not all. 10% is messed up.
Omen Navy Issue Tutorial
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
3278
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Posted - 2017.07.12 01:06:05 -
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Matthias Ancaladron wrote:The game is currently broken and full of incorrectly labeled slides.
Theyre resetting everyone's accuracy tomorrow because of how broken it currently is. It's just picking random increments and labeling them as transits when many of the pictures have no transits present. If you correctly answer no transits you get it wrong because the slides are all wrong and the only way to get it right is to randomly select and pray to God you picked the right random intervals.
Oh, good. I thought I was just ******* terrible at this. :D Well, I may be yet, we'll see.
Even had a few in which there was likely no transit, but I marked one because it seemed like the system decided they ALL had transits and spent no shortage of time trying to post-mortem why it said my marked transit was wrong when it was utterly indistinguishable from what it labelled a transit.
"Help, I'm bored with missions!"
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
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Galaxxis
Unicorn Rampage
200
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Posted - 2017.07.12 01:36:14 -
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Most likely marked as two separate transiting planets in a 2:1 mean-motion resonance due to the different transit depths. To make this particular pattern they would have to be transiting at the same time, which is a little odd but not impossible. |
Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
448
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Posted - 2017.07.12 02:41:33 -
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Tutorial tells me to click on spikes. I click on spike and submit. Apparently it was smaller spikes inbetween the bigger spikes on a flat line that are the "spikes"....
Seriously this is the most incoherent game mechanic I've ever known in recent times... I'll just spam "no transit" until I hit rank 250 or quit...
"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."
-Cold Wind
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Vanessa Celtis
Vanessa Atalanta
23
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Posted - 2017.07.12 02:44:27 -
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Tavin Aikisen wrote:Tutorial tells me to click on spikes. I click on spike and submit. Apparently it was smaller spikes inbetween the bigger spikes on a flat line that are the "spikes"....
Seriously this is the most incoherent game mechanic I've ever known in recent times... I'll just spam "no transit" until I hit rank 250 or quit...
Bump! |
Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
560
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Posted - 2017.07.12 03:39:32 -
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Vanessa Celtis wrote:Because the red was a SECOND pattern / planet; you need to double click when validating to have in this case *two* patterns selected and then only submit.
It looks like the same pattern to me. The planet looks like it crossed the star twice as often as she thought it did.
A signature :o
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Sarrian Calda
Perkone
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2017.07.12 04:40:01 -
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Matthias Ancaladron wrote:The game is currently broken and full of incorrectly labeled slides.
Theyre resetting everyone's accuracy tomorrow because of how broken it currently is. It's just picking random increments and labeling them as transits when many of the pictures have no transits present. If you correctly answer no transits you get it wrong because the slides are all wrong and the only way to get it right is to randomly select and pray to God you picked the right random intervals.
May I know where you got this info about the broken state of the game and that they are resetting it from?
And, I have my share of problem with identifying the transits too.
http://imgur.com/a/TkSkp |
Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
325
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Posted - 2017.07.12 10:21:52 -
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I have no idea what i am doing, even in tutorial i fail all the time.
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Cara LeCroix
Bouncing Between Comets
2
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Posted - 2017.07.12 11:26:44 -
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It's not that hard
I like the game fwiw, some of the slides are hard, but most of them are really easy. |
Kumwamato
Perkone
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.07.12 11:35:07 -
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it's quite easy
http://imgur.com/a/bT72C |
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zitellona
No Risk No ISK
2
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Posted - 2017.07.12 12:10:29 -
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How can the system know when someone has done a correct analysis? What the hell are we doing here? |
Valera Schwert
Das zweite Konglomerat
Circle-Of-Two
1
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Posted - 2017.07.12 12:11:54 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:Because there are two different transits present. The one that is marked in green that was correct is one and the one marked in read is another one. When you have plates like this with more than one transit that lines along the same line the other transit will be a second second transit. The wavy suns like the one in your image are sometimes hard to mark. Just mark all the lower transits with one marker and the higher transits with another marker. Want me to get ya a Beefy Big Boy from the Fun Machine....Beep...Beep....ANUIRISUN!
I understand the idea of a second planet (second pattern). However, this assumed second pattern has the exact same interval as the first pattern but is shifted by 1/2. That would mean that the second planet is exactly opposite to the first. How high is the chance for that? :) |
Valera Schwert
Das zweite Konglomerat
Circle-Of-Two
1
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Posted - 2017.07.12 12:16:04 -
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zoltan Ishikela wrote:http://imgur.com/RLoKtKb
missed 1 marker, FAILED
I had the exact same reason of failure. It even looks like the same data XD |
Valera Schwert
Das zweite Konglomerat
Circle-Of-Two
1
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Posted - 2017.07.12 12:18:21 -
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Galaxxis wrote:Most likely marked as two separate transiting planets in a 2:1 mean-motion resonance due to the different transit depths. To make this particular pattern they would have to be transiting at the same time, which is a little odd but not impossible. Actually I'm looking at this again, and I'm bothered by the fact that the transits are not only apparently overlapped, but also the exact same width. That shouldn't happen with two different orbits; the outer orbit should have a longer transit duration. And no, co-orbital planets aren't really a thing. I'm not convinced that their analysis of this light curve is correct.
Oh hi! Thanks for that awesome answers. That pretty much matched my thoughts, thanks a lot! :) |
Virginia Flake
The Scope
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2017.07.12 12:20:20 -
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It is very simple, really. You should see distinct "V" dip or a series of dips. You mark them and proceed. When you don't see "V" deep, you click "No transit". That's it. Don't try to find some tricky system in the noise. It's not there.
As I understnad it - it's a game of statistics, so our answers are superimposed. When game has little statistics sometimes you'll get a failure, because - it seems - system can't compare your answer to some data. But as you progress - it becomes much more predictable. If you don't see distinct narrow V, if you don't see obvious pattern, then click "no transit". I mostly get "No transit" plates. I've went to 0,4% accurancy, now I'm back to 65%, got 9 discovery skins.
Best, |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
30550
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Posted - 2017.07.12 12:32:08 -
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Huh... suddenly, after failing 1000 times, the easy stuff showed up. Up to 60% accuracy now.
"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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Vanessa Celtis
Vanessa Atalanta
25
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Posted - 2017.07.12 12:53:40 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Huh... suddenly, after failing 1000 times, the easy stuff showed up. Up to 60% accuracy now.
That is CCP, manipulating things around behind the scene especially the ratios easy vs. hard samples ! |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
30550
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Posted - 2017.07.12 13:12:43 -
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Vanessa Celtis wrote:Shalua Rui wrote:Huh... suddenly, after failing 1000 times, the easy stuff showed up. Up to 60% accuracy now. That is CCP, manipulating things around behind the scene especially the ratios easy vs. hard samples !
Cheeky.
"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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Pan Pan
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.07.12 13:16:53 -
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Best thing I have discovered...
While zoomed in to a width of about 3 days, click on a suspected transit, then move the slider in the window below to look for another. When you see one hover your mouse over it to bring up the orbital period ticks. If you see one you like, click it, and keep panning. Don't be too quick to go into folded mode. It's time consuming and resets the whole interface when you exit. |
I 4M L3Gl0N
EVE University
Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2017.07.12 15:01:47 -
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This is worse than there being no point to this - it is not only discouraging me to play the mini-game it is discouraging me to play EVE at all if this is how they plan to treat players.
This is not hard - it is impossible. There is no discernable pattern between the supposed correct transits and the noise around it. Usually the "correct transits" look less like transits than the noise around them. And the dips in luminosity of these supposed transits are near or less than the average dips. The largest 20% of the dips in luminosity aren't even considered transits. Pure stupidity - on either CCP's part or I guess mine for even bothering.
Did anyone at CCP not involved in its creation even try it to test the user experience? |
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Edik Edik
The Scope
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2017.07.12 15:17:54 -
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https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/exoplanet-research-with-project-discovery-join-the-developer-live-stream-on-july-12-at-17-30-utc/ |
M4cD0g
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2017.07.12 21:32:32 -
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Spectacular FAIL of the developer of this at one of the bullshit samples. Can't get better than that!
Take a hint CCP. If even your main developer that has worked on this for months can't solve this don't expect us to. Remove the frustrating random garbage samples.
https://i.imgur.com/BdDpVLs.jpg
Hilarious! |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
30556
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Posted - 2017.07.12 21:38:23 -
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M4cD0g wrote:Spectacular FAIL of the developer of this at one of the bullshit samples. Can't get better than that! Take a hint CCP. If even your main developer that has worked on this for months can't solve this don't expect us to. Remove the frustrating random garbage samples. https://i.imgur.com/BdDpVLs.jpg
Hilarious!
It's quite a hit and miss affair... I was going great for some time now, then suddenly back to one unreadable sample after the other and *swoosh" down by 20% accuracy.
"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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Anton Sosnicev
Y.G.G.D.R.A.S.I.L.
Out of Sight.
0
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Posted - 2017.07.13 00:33:28 -
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http://i.imgur.com/SnE5Gjc.png
What is this? Almost 4 day nothing? |
Sephiroth Clone VII
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
168
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Posted - 2017.07.13 01:50:45 -
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Here is a good hint, the zoom tool is used by clicking on the left side of the lower bar and draging left.
With that it could be made more obvious to see where it is like a button or a slider. |
Sephiroth CloneIIV
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
168
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Posted - 2017.07.13 01:50:45 -
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Here is a good hint, the zoom tool is used by clicking on the left side of the lower bar and draging left.
With that it could be made more obvious to see where it is like a button or a slider. |
Soulstinger
The Crimson Raiders
0
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Posted - 2017.07.13 10:49:55 -
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The implementation and explanation of this game asset is infuriating.
Not enough is explained about how the interface works, how to learn from your mistakes - which all too often are completely indiscernible from background noise- or how to refine your selection using the time dilation.
What results mean you had too tight an orbit described, or what your results indicated that was false.
Or, and this is one of my biggest complaints, is when you have one obvious transit dip by itself, no other indicators...and the system says you were incorrect marking the one transit as the source you missed. - WE CANNOT SELECT A SINGLE TRANSIT AND POST IT-
There is no way to succeed on a slide with only one transit! if you mark it as empty, you are shown the single transit as your mistake, If you mark the single transit and some other random squiggle, you are shown your random squiggle as your mistake!
Overall this system feels like it was intended for people with a much higher threshold of knowledge about the subject matter, and the interface feels like it is missing a step, some sort of pre- selection fold mechanic that allows us to further filter out background noise. |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
30568
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Posted - 2017.07.13 10:54:52 -
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You can mark a single transit by double klicking.
"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
372
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Posted - 2017.07.13 12:52:36 -
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Maybe someone doesn't want to be discovered.
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Vanessa Celtis
Vanessa Atalanta
27
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Posted - 2017.07.13 17:58:14 -
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CCP, please do us a favor:
http://i.imgur.com/RYVGnT5.jpg |
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