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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2004.01.07 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Gan Ning on 07/01/2004 18:46:47
I was after a scorp and this guy was prepared to swap any amount of skills and goods in exchange for his scorp. I actually laughed at his ad, but decided to play along...
(removed date/time to make more readable) ----------------------------------------------- Channelname: AidenAiken conversation Listener: Gan Ning Session started: 2004.01.07 17:52:27 -----------------------------------------------
Gan Ning > actually i need the scorp here and it will save time, come on over AidenAiken > ok but to deliver i need a 10% deposit, srry but ive been mucked about too many times to go back get the ship, come to you only to find out youre not there Gan Ning > im here and im well known in the nva AidenAiken > how do i know that youre not another of Bobeh's frinds just mucking me about! Ive been called out on deliveries that didnt exist 4 times in the last week AidenAiken > srry but you collect or no deal Gan Ning > Your char and corp are not even 7 days old so excuse me if im not throwing myself out to travel 11 jumps. Gan Ning > and there a number of corps who have rated you -10 AidenAiken > ive never heard of the nva anyhow, who are they? the North Vietnamese Army? ;lol Gan Ning > New Venal Alliance Gan Ning > you've never heard of them? AidenAiken > oh are they big? Gan Ning > how long you been playing? AidenAiken > since just b4 christmas, with this account :) Gan Ning > and you can fly a scorp? AidenAiken > 8 months on my original account :) Gan Ning > whats your chars name on your original account? AidenAiken > no i cant, this is the charecter i use to sell not deliver Gan Ning > And if you've been playing for 8 months surely you would who the nva are Gan Ning > hehe nice try little one AidenAiken > i would have to log off, re log as my alt fly to station etc etc, thats why im not gonna risk doing it all for nothing again! Gan Ning > You can fly a scorp after just 7 days, I want whatever implants you got! AidenAiken > and i never heard of the NVA AidenAiken > hehe lol AidenAiken > 6 big corps have me rated that bad eh! AidenAiken > damn time for a new alt then :( AidenAiken > and i was so liking myself Gan Ning > dont scam its a waste of everyones time AidenAiken > erm not exactly Gan Ning > what was you gonna give me, a blackbird in the trade window or something? AidenAiken > A condor, black birds cost to much :) Gan Ning > you're a naughty boy :p AidenAiken > hehe i know, and youre a clever one, congrats Gan Ning > buh bye
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Seiun Darel
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Posted - 2004.01.07 18:45:00 -
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LoL
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Soren
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Posted - 2004.01.07 19:07:00 -
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Wow, he admited scamming.. Can we get a ban here? _________________________________________________________
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Atrioss
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Posted - 2004.01.07 19:46:00 -
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Can you guys help a newb here? I played for the last couple of months in beta, but I only traded once. I recall trading on a station once, and there was a small trade window for the transaction. We each put our item into the window, and then we each had to confirm the trade.
I thought it would be possible to see the actual item that you're trading for. How is it possible to get scammed?
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Grizwold
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Posted - 2004.01.07 19:51:00 -
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He renames the Condor to say Scorpion.
Some peeps do not know what the Scorp looks like nor check the stats.
They figure that because it says Scorpion, it is. Condor is the usual exchange item. I have 5 from bogus trades where the scammer just leaves it when challenged.
Some use the mauler for a Dominix for same scam.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:10:00 -
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yeah. it's insane. Buying such a big ticket item...
hell, i wouldn't buy ammo without actually checking to see if it's the right type!
 actually that's not so minor. Thinking you're firing EMP when it's actually Carbonized Lead is bad, mmmmkay 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:39:00 -
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scamming isn't against the rules Soren :P duhh |

Fausto
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:16:00 -
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Quote: scamming isn't against the rules Soren :P duhh
It is against mine rules and should be against yours too I hope. ______
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Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:27:00 -
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very clever catch gan
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:54:00 -
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Caveat Emptor
Good call Gan.
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eXe Galanodel
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:14:00 -
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*clap* *clap* *clap*
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Lilin
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: Lilin on 07/01/2004 22:16:10 Grats, another one bites the dust. ----------------------------------------------- A computer is like an air-conditioner, as soon as you open Windows, it stops working.
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Ganja
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Posted - 2004.01.07 23:04:00 -
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Very stupid scammer..
Maybe he needs to sign up for one of my day classes so he can become better, or buy my best selling book "How to scam in 10 easy steps."
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2004.01.07 23:43:00 -
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Quote: Very stupid scammer..
Maybe he needs to sign up for one of my day classes so he can become better, or buy my best selling book "How to scam in 10 easy steps."
Do the first 5 steps involve giving you money? 
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:21:00 -
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Step 1) Send me 10 million and I will send you all the steps needed to scam people.
Step 2) (Sent after payment made) See step 1.
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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Lacrimae
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Posted - 2004.01.09 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: Lacrimae on 10/01/2004 20:25:15 Edited by: Lacrimae on 09/01/2004 21:24:48 I seem to have found the reason why AidenAiken is scamming...
I have known AikenAidan (notice, different spelling) for quite some time... When I heard the rumor yesterday of "Aiken is a scammer" going around in other channels I hang out in, I was puzzled, as I've been talking to AikenAidan since November or so, and he has always helped people and been very fun talking to.
I started looking into this, as I heard the NVA and others were trying to hunt him down...
When I found this post, I saw, that the name didn't match entirely... so I looked at AidenAiken's bio, where it said:
Quote: Have been selling ships on behalf of Univorsal Indespondant now for 3 months, specialising in Scorps. Soon to be specialising in the dissapearing trade i wish all our customers every success in the future :) Yours Truthfully, AikenAiden
I thought that was weird: his character name is AidenAiken, but he signs "AikenAiden".. and he mentions "Univorsal Indespondant" which is AikenAidan's corp, only it's spelled "Universal Independent"... AND he mentions that he's been dealing scorps for UI for 3mths, then why was his character created on 01.01.04? And 3 months? The UI was created 1 month and 14 days ago (AikenAidan was the creator, and he started November 14th, 2003)...
So now I was pretty certain that AidenAiken was not AikenAidan, now I just needed to find the reason someone was scamming and pretending to be him... And I think this log between me and the *real* AikenAidan might show:
(date/time removed for readability)
---------------------------------------- Channelname: AikenAidan conversation Listener: Lacrimae Session started: 2004.01.09 20:31:49
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Lacrimae > heya ;) Lacrimae > I'm a bit curious? do you have any enemies on EVE? Lacrimae > maybe had an argument with someone around new years eve? AikenAidan > just 2 folks that think I scammed them Lacrimae > do you know why they think that? AikenAidan > I was on mission. I got to local 1st was attacking rats and another mission go'er showed up My Prisoners were there but thier Objective didnt load Lacrimae > and that was around new years eve? AikenAidan > 1 was Zatar the other was Whoe AikenAidan > Who lost her mission Objective and thought I took it Lacrimae > take a look at the character AidenAiken Lacrimae > he's scamming people for scorps Lacrimae > and wanted by the NVA Lacrimae > ... they think it's you Lacrimae > (but your english is far better than that) Lacrimae > there's a post on the forums as well AikenAidan > slow down I can't read that fast AikenAidan > well counter post please Lacrimae > I will AikenAidan > yes thats the guy I turned in for exploiting at the gates he lost his 2 chars that were involved AikenAidan > so he made a look alike of me in return and is casting blame on me AikenAidan > NVA? Lacrimae > he's mentioning Universal Independent in his bio.. but as "Univorsel Indespondant" Lacrimae > NVA... New Venal Alliance.. AikenAidan > I'll file an exployt harassment complaint ty Lacrimae > well.. the thing is... NVA and CA thought you were him when they heard about Will9 Anthony yesterday Lacrimae > we've been researching this since yesterday.. I believe you, but... I was kinda afraid I couldn't trust you anyway.. so I went searching through the forums... Lacrimae > I always get a little cautious when hearing something like that Lacrimae > I'm sorry.. but I kinda found out it wasn't you... *phew* Lacrimae > so I just thought I'd let you know AikenAidan > stop typing It moves the chat and I cant see the names as they are spelled plz wait AikenAidan > type his name and his corps name again plz i cant scroll chat wile in prttision Lacrimae > sorry AikenAidan > petitioning AikenAidan > np Lacrimae > his name's AidenAiken and he's with Combined Waste Management AikenAidan > is he posting on the forums too pertending to be me? Lacrimae > no.. but someone posted a log from a scam he trie to pull AikenAidan > whats title of post? Lacrimae > Heres a not very good scammer.... Lacrimae > thread-id is 52401 Lacrimae > it's on page 5 AikenAidan > ok ty hold on more chat plz Lacrimae > want me to counter-post or do you want to do it yourself? AikenAidan > you can do it better than I they'll say im lie ing Lacrimae > ok... can I post this log? AikenAidan > as long as we didnt use harsh language yes Lacrimae > we didn't ;) AikenAidan > post away
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So, my prayer is... if you feel like hunting AidenAiken down, feel free to do so... But make sure it's the right one ;)
/Lacrimae
(update: placed a quote the wrong place, sorry)
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Freezer
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Posted - 2004.01.09 22:21:00 -
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makes a bit more sense now.
"Combined Waste Management"
We've had our share of issues with these guys. I thought they were all gone now? No one from there ever looged on that we knew of. Mostly based out of Saminer at the time.
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Lacrimae
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Posted - 2004.01.09 22:31:00 -
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Well, it seems CCP are on the case... they answered the real AA's harrassment petition...
Quote: "Combined Waste Management"
We've had our share of issues with these guys. I thought they were all gone now? No one from there ever looged on that we knew of. Mostly based out of Saminer at the time.
Seems they're still somewhat active, as the wrong AA could be accepted as a member... or maybe the wrong AA is an alt of someone in CWM?
It's a conspiracy! :P
/Lac *wannabe detective?*
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AikenAidan
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Posted - 2004.01.10 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: AikenAidan on 10/01/2004 01:48:06 Edited by: AikenAidan on 10/01/2004 01:38:27 As you can see I an NOT AidenAiken.. I am AikenAidan.. The former is an Identity thief, and is in NO WAY connected to me, or to my Solo Corp. Universal Independents. Heck I don't even make ships. I THINK this fellow is related to the one that I exsposed to the GMs as useing exploytes getting the 2 charactures involved Deleted. So please Stop besmerching my good name and the Good name of my corporation. The GM's are currently looking into this Identity thief and his exploytes..
And Lacrimae is mistaken I dont even Know what a scorp is... I thought that was slang for serpentis corp pirates.
I will personaly buy a drink for each person that PODs that ****er [Plz dont get the spelling wrong]. I have been nearly blown away from pay back seekers for HIS Bull Pucky behavior...
Heedless to say I am ****ed [angry ,upset, disgruntled] at this Blatant disregard for the Harassment Policies of EVE. And if CCP doesnt Ban him them I'll quit..............                  
PS: I do sell ammo for Hybrids and FOF missles [lights and heavies], and will be suppling Targeted missles soon as I finish reserching them. Lowest prices in Renyn. The only ships I plan on building are the ones I will fly.
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AikenAidan
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Posted - 2004.01.10 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: AikenAidan on 10/01/2004 18:51:49 This is an UPDATE as to what the GM's did to punish this Multiple offence Harasser, Exployter, and Hack. Did they Ban him for repete offences NO... Did they delete his characture NO.... What you ask DID they do to him? They changed the Charactures name to eveplayer 17....
What in god's name [which ever one {if any} you believe in] is with these folks.. They Kiss the BUTTS of the very people that should NOT be allowed in EVE.. If this Turd wad ever does anything to me again then CCP will LOSE ANOTHER good paying customer..
Heck I might as well become a lieing, selfish, Harassing, Exployter just Like Him.. Who knows the GM's might even give me Tech 2 stuff like they give them..................
THERE IS NO JUSTICE IN EVE....................
                              
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AikenAidan
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Posted - 2004.01.10 18:58:00 -
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The GM's changed the name of 'AidenAiken' to 'eveplayer 17' [ NVA plz take notice ]. Seems more like they helpped Him out of getting POD'd, and Now Im the only player with that type of name. Guess I'll just give my stuff to the few good folks I know, and save myself 14.95 a month in fees................
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AikenAidan
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Posted - 2004.01.10 19:50:00 -
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Did I forget to mention How ****ed [ angry, upset, disgruntled ] this has made me? I'm just 1 thing shy of cancleing my account.
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ManniXXX
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Posted - 2004.01.10 23:00:00 -
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smoke a j and relax
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VOID DRAGON
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Posted - 2004.01.11 17:28:00 -
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THAT WAS A BAD SCAM the ident theft not the ship scam that was bad too but for other reasons heres how i spot a scammer if someone askes for some cash up front like say 6 million for a megathron id give min 2 million and see what happens saying ill give him the reset if he proves hes real and i mean really prove himself ( by the way 2 million is peanuts to me if you were wondering, so if you cant afford this dont acceps such a deal where you give money up front instead just post his name)
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