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Desmios Sanguis
Tax-Free Foundation
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Posted - 2017.07.21 13:50:08 -
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Unless I am missing something, you get:
4x plex - 13 mil and 1 tengu skin
for how many hours of work? 5 - 10? That is less than 1mil/hour.
I don't even fly a tengu, I fly a legion.
Am I missing something? |
Peta Chieve
White Partyhat Headquarters
5
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Posted - 2017.07.21 14:07:10 -
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Maybe don't focus them down and just see what you can work into your daily things and stuff?
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Desmios Sanguis
Tax-Free Foundation
43
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Posted - 2017.07.21 14:31:15 -
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Peta Chieve wrote:Maybe don't focus them down and just see what you can work into your daily things and stuff?
So I'm not missing anything? Those really are the rewards? |
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
318
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Posted - 2017.07.21 14:42:54 -
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Desmios Sanguis wrote:Peta Chieve wrote:Maybe don't focus them down and just see what you can work into your daily things and stuff? So I'm not missing anything? Those really are the rewards?
Yes they are the rewards, these aren't aimed at older players, again its a new player event, which i'm fine with, the rewards aren't worth my time so i don't give them my time :P |
Ebony Texas
The Knights Armada Sev3rance
82
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Posted - 2017.07.21 14:48:32 -
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Cypherous wrote:Desmios Sanguis wrote:Peta Chieve wrote:Maybe don't focus them down and just see what you can work into your daily things and stuff? So I'm not missing anything? Those really are the rewards? Yes they are the rewards, these aren't aimed at older players, again its a new player event, which i'm fine with, the rewards aren't worth my time so i don't give them my time :P
bullchit they are to aimed at older players, young players, dumb players, sucker players and everyone else since they forced boosted everyone in the game. so this event was aimed at all.. and all not liking it one bit
total waste of dev time, ccp had the nerve to take away The Thrill of the Hunt... which was the most useful event ever causing players atleast to log in and get a kill for some free SP... but since ccp rise showed his pretty rainbow coalition looking pies and charts claimed "there was no change in number of players getting active"... well what in the holy cow pucky are these numbers looking like TODAY...
its even worse!
stop the bullcrap dude, ccp needs to be go back and be far more transparent about the issues in this game.. on their own forums, not some backwoods ally reddit all the damn time. Man up, fess up, and get their behinds on their forums and discuss the crap that makes eve look bad with the community!!
don't be skurd |
Decaneos
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
156
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Posted - 2017.07.21 15:02:32 -
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yer, im not interested really in this event, dun fly the tengu so meh. I more focused at the moment on the Project discovery |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
536
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Posted - 2017.07.21 20:42:21 -
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Cypherous wrote:Desmios Sanguis wrote:Peta Chieve wrote:Maybe don't focus them down and just see what you can work into your daily things and stuff? So I'm not missing anything? Those really are the rewards? Yes they are the rewards, these aren't aimed at older players, again its a new player event, which i'm fine with, the rewards aren't worth my time so i don't give them my time :P If its for new players, why are there challenges requiring you to fly T3 cruisers and battlecruisers?
Even for new players the rewads are bad. |
Desmios Sanguis
Tax-Free Foundation
43
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Posted - 2017.07.21 21:00:03 -
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Algarion Getz wrote:Cypherous wrote:Desmios Sanguis wrote:Peta Chieve wrote:Maybe don't focus them down and just see what you can work into your daily things and stuff? So I'm not missing anything? Those really are the rewards? Yes they are the rewards, these aren't aimed at older players, again its a new player event, which i'm fine with, the rewards aren't worth my time so i don't give them my time :P If its for new players, why are there challenges requiring you to fly T3 cruisers and battlecruisers? Even for new players the rewads are bad.
How many new players can fly T3cs? lol |
Ebony Texas
The Knights Armada Sev3rance
83
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Posted - 2017.07.21 22:55:16 -
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Desmios Sanguis wrote:Algarion Getz wrote:Cypherous wrote:Desmios Sanguis wrote:Peta Chieve wrote:Maybe don't focus them down and just see what you can work into your daily things and stuff? So I'm not missing anything? Those really are the rewards? Yes they are the rewards, these aren't aimed at older players, again its a new player event, which i'm fine with, the rewards aren't worth my time so i don't give them my time :P If its for new players, why are there challenges requiring you to fly T3 cruisers and battlecruisers? Even for new players the rewads are bad. How many new players can fly T3cs? lol
they expect for some newbie to make the stupid instant purchase of plex to buy the skill injectors just to play the event in a t3 for some funky looking skin.. which in fact will be sold in jita
I hate the damn skin so much im buying the damn thing just to trash it!! |
Desmios Sanguis
Tax-Free Foundation
43
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Posted - 2017.07.21 23:09:01 -
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they expect for some newbie to make the stupid instant purchase of plex to buy the skill injectors just to play the event in a t3 for some funky looking skin.. which in fact will be sold in jita
I hate the damn skin so much im buying the damn thing just to trash it!!
Has CCP gone full ******?
Have they never seen tropic thunder!? |
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Hello Meow Kitty
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
39
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Posted - 2017.07.22 00:22:43 -
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Last time I checked you kitty cats cried about skill points as a reward. Now that it's not something rewarding you are whining lol |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
3497
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Posted - 2017.07.22 01:26:28 -
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Desmios Sanguis wrote:Unless I am missing something, you get:
4x plex - 13 mil and 1 tengu skin
for how many hours of work? 5 - 10? That is less than 1mil/hour.
I don't even fly a tengu, I fly a legion.
Am I missing something?
You have to understand what is happening. To many of the people in control of the game, members of null sec cartels making 260M / tick, while high sec players make 1 million / hour, is the way the wealth distribution should be. |
Desmios Sanguis
Tax-Free Foundation
43
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Posted - 2017.07.22 02:30:03 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Desmios Sanguis wrote:Unless I am missing something, you get:
4x plex - 13 mil and 1 tengu skin
for how many hours of work? 5 - 10? That is less than 1mil/hour.
I don't even fly a tengu, I fly a legion.
Am I missing something? You have to understand what is happening. To many of the people in control of the game, members of null sec cartels making 260M / tick, while high sec players make 1 million / hour, is the way the wealth distribution should be.
How do I get into making 260m / tick?
And what is a tick? |
Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
459
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Posted - 2017.07.22 18:09:20 -
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thats why i made this same thread critisizing the event before it went live after i had decided it was garbage on the test server.
also desmios, a tick is when your wallet updates and you receive cash for whatever youre killing, in this case youre bounty prizes.
apparently smartbombing battleships in npc havens in nullsec and super carrier ratting can produce lots of money that normal players cant match. |
Problem Addict
3
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Posted - 2017.07.22 18:36:30 -
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The only purpose this serves is to trick achievement hunters into stop making isk.
Maybe if we glamorize and hype this new event, instead of making a bunch of ISK ruining the economy, we can temporarily trick a bunch of dudes into wasting their time and save the game! |
Preston De Kinks
University of Caille Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2017.07.22 19:45:47 -
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Rewards are very poor, why bother doing it? |
Desmios Sanguis
Tax-Free Foundation
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Posted - 2017.07.22 22:03:23 -
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Preston De Kinks wrote:Rewards are very poor, why bother doing it?
This is what I wonder |
Fluffy Moe
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2017.07.23 05:14:09 -
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Desmios Sanguis wrote:Unless I am missing something, you get:
4x plex - 13 mil and 1 tengu skin
for how many hours of work? 5 - 10? That is less than 1mil/hour.
I don't even fly a tengu, I fly a legion.
Am I missing something?
Yea, I'm very disappointed in it as well. The drone event was much better, even though I lost 1 fairly nicely fitted cruiser, it was nice to do, this one isn't.
Also, there is some buggy crap going on with it, I went out in my T3 fitted for scanning, scanned and complete several combat sites and did not get completion credit for any of them. I get credit for blowing up the pirates etc. but not scanning them down and completing them.
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Fluffy Moe
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2017.07.23 05:16:25 -
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Cypherous wrote:Desmios Sanguis wrote:Peta Chieve wrote:Maybe don't focus them down and just see what you can work into your daily things and stuff? So I'm not missing anything? Those really are the rewards? Yes they are the rewards, these aren't aimed at older players, again its a new player event, which i'm fine with, the rewards aren't worth my time so i don't give them my time :P
new player events do not require things such as "scan and complete combat site while flyign a T3 cruiser", unless that new player is expected to plop down a few hundred $$$ for skill injectors, which I doubt even CCP would do as that would drive even more new players away from the game instead of into it.
This stuff doesn't even cover decent ammo costs. |
Anna Maria Yolo
Neutron Blaster Solutions
40
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Posted - 2017.07.23 11:07:50 -
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Cypherous wrote:Desmios Sanguis wrote:Peta Chieve wrote:Maybe don't focus them down and just see what you can work into your daily things and stuff? So I'm not missing anything? Those really are the rewards? Yes they are the rewards, these aren't aimed at older players, again its a new player event, which i'm fine with, the rewards aren't worth my time so i don't give them my time :P
Sure man. New players usually fly tech 3 criusers. Most of them buy Tengu in the first month, right after skilling Venture. |
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Gemma Skord
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2017.07.23 11:27:44 -
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What is the goal of this event? Make players undock and do stuff in space? The rewards are not nearly good enough to achieve this. You can earn more by staying docked and doing some station trading.
It doenst even add new content. The developers just picked some existing, generic PvE activities and called them challenges. |
Chan'aar
State War Academy Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2017.07.24 12:33:07 -
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Don't look at this as an Event, look at it as a proof of concept.
The challenges are simple, the rewards are poor but this is just a test run to work the bugs out (like the challenges getting stuck )
Once CCP are happy with how The Agency runs they can then add more interesting and diverse challenges and better rewards.
Basically this month is a beta test.
[at least I hope it is] |
Boldly Gone
Winfield Star-Tech Affirmative.
7
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Posted - 2017.07.24 16:41:16 -
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Fluffy Moe wrote: I went out in my T3 fitted for scanning, scanned and complete several combat sites and did not get completion credit for any of them. I get credit for blowing up the pirates etc. but not scanning them down and completing them.
Funny thing, I scanned for these sites, got there and every NCP ship was wrecked. But the site was still there. I scanned another site, same thing, but now I read the little window popping up before warping which says that destroying a certain structure would help the studies or something like that. So I looked for that structure in that cemetary, destroyed it and *bing* 10 points. Well, that was easy.
And yeah, for Newbies like me these "crappy" incentives are quite cool. I would never had bought a BC and have it scanner fitted, for 1 or even 5 Plex are quite money for me. Killing Lvl 1 rats is a task every newbie performs regularly. So I also consider this a new player event, perhaps to bring some free Plex on the market. |
Julien Brellier
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
150
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Posted - 2017.07.24 17:32:02 -
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Kill 25 rats Kill 5 rats in belts Run 1 scanned combat site Get 1million in bounty
Noobs can easily earn 40 those points per day.
But bittervets are crying because there are an extra 8 points available for older players with BC and T3C.
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Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
469
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Posted - 2017.07.24 19:29:34 -
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Chan'aar wrote:Don't look at this as an Event, look at it as a proof of concept. The challenges are simple, the rewards are poor but this is just a test run to work the bugs out (like the challenges getting stuck ) Once CCP are happy with how The Agency runs they can then add more interesting and diverse challenges and better rewards. Basically this month is a beta test. [at least I hope it is] No, tests are for the test forum.
This is a travesty. |
Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
469
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Posted - 2017.07.24 19:31:48 -
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Boldly Gone wrote:Fluffy Moe wrote: I went out in my T3 fitted for scanning, scanned and complete several combat sites and did not get completion credit for any of them. I get credit for blowing up the pirates etc. but not scanning them down and completing them.
Funny thing, I scanned for these sites, got there and every NCP ship was wrecked. But the site was still there. I scanned another site, same thing, but now I read the little window popping up before warping which says that destroying a certain structure would help the studies or something like that. So I looked for that structure in that cemetary, destroyed it and *bing* 10 points. Well, that was easy. And yeah, for Newbies like me these "crappy" incentives are quite cool. I would never had bought a BC and have it scanner fitted, for 1 or even 5 Plex are quite money for me. Killing Lvl 1 rats is a task every newbie performs regularly. So I also consider this a new player event, perhaps to bring some free Plex on the market.
But the battlecruiser you bought and fitted was worth 3 times more than the rewards you will get for participating. Youve actually lost money so far. |
Boldly Gone
Winfield Star-Tech Affirmative.
7
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Posted - 2017.07.25 08:59:47 -
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Matthias Ancaladron wrote: But the battlecruiser you bought and fitted was worth 3 times more than the rewards you will get for participating. Youve actually lost money so far.
OK, a single plex is not as expensive as I thought. But do you think I wouldn't have bought a BC in my career if it wasn't for that event? Perhaps CCP wants us to try different ways, these were my first scanning probe experiencies since the career agent times. Anyway, I like my Myrmidon. If there wasn't that golden rule: "Never fly something you can't afford to lose." It's like a Porsche in the garage... |
Neuntausend
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1766
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Posted - 2017.07.25 09:04:50 -
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Doesn't look like this has anything to do with new players or old players or what have you players. This is probably a test run for a "daily quest" system to give players something more to do after logging in than just checking market orders and the skill queue, and then logging out again. Can't make the rewards too good if it's just random stuff, though, that many players that actually play the game will simply complete on the side. |
Haanecall Solette
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.07.25 11:43:34 -
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The problem is why you can't get out of it, if you don't like it!? When you ask in "help" channel, they tell you to close or minimise the windows or turn off the notification. LOL. lol. lol. Are they stupid or sarcastic or arrogant? Maybe you want to do a Den or Forlorn site without those ships being accounted in The Agency. Simply check out or close or log off The Agency. You can't.
Why CCP? Why do you force every player to be a part of this Agency trash?
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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
546
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Posted - 2017.07.25 11:56:24 -
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Chan'aar wrote:Don't look at this as an Event, look at it as a proof of concept. The challenges are simple, the rewards are poor but this is just a test run to work the bugs out (like the challenges getting stuck ) Once CCP are happy with how The Agency runs they can then add more interesting and diverse challenges and better rewards. Basically this month is a beta test. [at least I hope it is] People said that last year about the Scope event (it was very similar). This year's event was also on the test server for quite a while. Development seems to be really slow. How many CCP employees are actually working on PvE content? One intern? I wouldnt be surprised if most of devs got moved to work on VR stuff. |
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