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Sassinak	Posted - 2004.01.07 23:23:00 - [31] Edited by: Sassinak on 07/01/2004 23:25:36 Quote: Yeah right newb. ive only lost 1 ship in the whole game and that was a megathron 5 months ago.. shows how good your recording skills are. noobtard lol pwned DigitalCommunist wtf u smokin dude weve killed like LOTS of CFS "Navy" Sass Arcane Technologies
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2004.01.07 23:25:00 - [32] Quote: Yeah right newb. ive only lost 1 ship in the whole game and that was a megathron 5 months ago.. shows how good your recording skills are. noobtard Those are CFS stats from their forum, I wasn't in that battle. noobtard Now give back the Oxygen.. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
pooti	Posted - 2004.01.07 23:25:00 - [33] i always think of the core of cfsn as being digitalcommunist, fedaykin & cougar one, 'cause those are the guys that always show up when i'm running around. not true, apparently.
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2004.01.07 23:27:00 - [34] pooti rocks, he's a pretty good pirate and a pretty good frigate pilot too.. the above "noobtard" could learn from his pvp skills was fun chasin ya _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
Lord Zap	Posted - 2004.01.07 23:27:00 - [35] Edited by: Lord Zap on 07/01/2004 23:30:07 Digital you are posting utter crap. We've only ever fought you when completely outnumbered because quite simply you'd be foolish to engage us on an equal footing. But anyways, carry on deluding yourself and maybe if you try hard enough you can delude the game population too. But we really know whats happened between us... Oh and as for the losses being pretty equal LMAOMGROFLMAOOMGOMGROFLROFLROFL COmplete crap, fedaykin n00b has gone through 5 scorps in as many days. We've lost 6 battleships TOTAL in all the time we've been down here. On several occasions I've seen you lose that many in a single fight... Go figure
Stavros	Posted - 2004.01.07 23:28:00 - [36] Ok your post is too long for me to read, but we count kills and losses of everything above frigates: We have lost 6 bships since this began k? Since we have been here we have killed over 76 bships and god only knows how many cruisers and indies. We also have the proof unlike you. We have read your forums, we have heard how you suspect we are 'funded by ccp' or that we 'exploited our money'. I won't embarrass you all by posting quotes on here, K? You guys are pathetic, your navy was in tatters to start off with, your leaders are BEGGING cfs corps to put up navy reserve recruits for extra cannon fodder. You have whole threads with training ideas and drills. You have been bested sirs without a shadow of a doubt. Since I have been watching last samurai tonight and I am feeling honourable I will present you with this oppurtunity. We do not need or want money... We do not need or want ships... We want ONE post from the president of the CFS entitled "m0o Owned Us" with the same text in the content, we will then leave cfs space and find somewhere else to play. To finish off here is a comment from a cfs member in cfs public from about 10 minutes ago. [QUOTE] Delletta > thanks to insureance we have more money now then we did before [/QUOTE] Proof of our kill ratio.. -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You"
Talon SilverHawk	Posted - 2004.01.07 23:29:00 - [37] Well well lets see I wonder if the fact that Castor came in and that most peeps are in Empire space Chasing tech 2 has anything to do with it hmmmmm. Looked at a map last night and most of 0.0 was empty with only a few peeps it seemed in Venal. You havent routed **. As there hasnt been ** to rout. Digital thanks for your support man. It will be remembered And to the Rats things will change, Tech 2 will come and be widely available and mining in low sec will get sorted so ppl will return and then I imagine things will change for all Alliances. Then I see lots of rats being hoisted by there own petards. Well see. Interesting times ahead. Tal Ooooh I can feel the heat now. What goes around comes around...
Nicholas Marshal	Posted - 2004.01.07 23:30:00 - [38] I think that until deployable disruptors and a method of tracking pilots in space (Ie. to stop jumping to a 'safe spot') are introduced, any sort of engagement with moo (or any other pirates for that matter is just pointless.
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2004.01.07 23:39:00 - [39] K, this is turning into a flame war fast.. forum battles suck, so please keep it out of here. Don't know what Zap is talking about, or Stav..my comment about losses being near equal are between m0o and those that fight on a regular basis.. but I don't know if Fedaykin lost 5 scorps.. if thats true then my above statement is incorrect, but only emphasizes my above point: CFS military is undermanned for their size. Wanna argue that? In general, CFS is getting owned .. because too many people aren't doing anything this is just through the eyes of an observer, I really don't care if they lose 500 battleships, as long as they get their act together _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
Stavros	Posted - 2004.01.07 23:43:00 - [40] Dude I have read your own forums, your guys are begging people to come and fight. Don't give me the 'dont regularly fight' stuff, last night was an organised event of cfs to get together a fleet of reservists and auxillaries to come fight us, this is an every day occurance. What are we supposed to do NOT shoot at everyone but those in cfsn or cfsnr even when they are actively engaged in fleets to kill us? If they are in a cfs corp and they are trying to attack us, they are counted. Deal. Stav -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You"
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2004.01.07 23:44:00 - [41] Quote: I think that until deployable disruptors and a method of tracking pilots in space (Ie. to stop jumping to a 'safe spot') are introduced, any sort of engagement with moo (or any other pirates for that matter is just pointless. OMG.. of course its pointless, a lot of times when I went out to kill someone, they just sit in midspace or log (cept pooti, which is why he's cool ) but why on earth claim CFS free space if you're not willing to defend it 24/7? I can't believe I'm reading this.. I should just go end myself right now before I appear to be a bigger CFS supporter than CFS itself _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2004.01.07 23:49:00 - [42] might wanna remove this from your kill list then: 20/12/03 00:49:32 Apothis JGR Corporation Apothis is niether a fighter, nor was he attacking you, nor are we CFS. As for you saying "we read your own forums", I wouldn't know since they're not my forums. I don't even know what we're arguing over? I already said as an observer, I see that CFS is getting owned because the majority of them don't wanna fight. k? _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.01.07 23:54:00 - [43] Digi, u realize that u can delete your messages right? unless someone gave me "moderator" status . Go to edit, then press DELETE button under the message box.
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2004.01.08 00:02:00 - [44] Quote: Digi, u realize that u can delete your messages right? unless someone gave me "moderator" status . Go to edit, then press DELETE button under the message box. Cool, thanks _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.01.08 00:22:00 - [45] Quote: Edited by: Ends on 07/01/2004 23:20:56 We are going to get money to the navy digital, we are modifying the free space bill to allow us to toll entry. We are going to give our people a REASON to be active and the money to do it with. Ends. And how, exactly, are you going to enforce those tolls? Not like you have any military to back it up, by the look of the things. 1 mil/20 ppl/week? LOL I make 1 mil/hour doing lame ass missions. -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Lord Zap	Posted - 2004.01.08 00:30:00 - [46] RIP* Coalition of "FREE" (LMAO) Stars
Spokesman	Posted - 2004.01.08 00:32:00 - [47] Seems to CFS is clearly displaying the problem with having an alliance made up mostly of miners and traders. Those greedy people think more in the way of "What I don't hand over to the alliance is profit for myself" instead of "If I hand over my money the alliance I will help us all". Greedy people will always consider other people that demand money as greedy and without responsibilty when it comes to money. Even if these people need it for 'the greater good'. People that gave up making money as the greatest goal in EVE, will have a lot more fun. They give a real purpose to the money they make other money to make more money. Wether that be piracy, claiming space or helping others. Small detail: IMHO people that blow other people up with no intension to making money either directly (pirate) or indirectly (guard) but only for the kill, because they have money to burn, have a bad influence on this game. I think another problem is that few people in this game are really willing to really give themselves to something. Meaning that you have to listen to orders, do boring stuff, risk everything you have etc. Yes CEOs do that, since most of the time you are doing boring stupid stuff. But they do it because they have the need to be 'in control' or just like power. The main reason why there are so many of those useless 4 player corps. But they don't sacrifce much, doing tedious stuff is part of the 'being in control'. Especially in something like an alliance doing dull things are important and sacrificing for the greater good are important, yet nobody is willing to do it. An example: If I take a look at Stavros' little list is see that by far the most kills were in the A3-V27 system. Ofcourse I'm not sure of this because I don't have all the info. But I think m0o would have a lot more difficulty with killing off so many players if CFS would just have appointed 50 frequent online players half-able to do PvP, put them in a corp, give these players a large stack of battleships and equipment, paid by all the other players, for which in return they are online as much as possible adn their sole task being to defend A2-V27 24/7 with as much players as possible. So not farming, no missions, and bad payment other then you are flying a battleship and perhaps a weekly small fee. But then ofcourse the problem: who would be willing to sacrifice his time for this? Not many CFS members appearently. Both traders/miners as PvP-ers. The first don't want to part with their money, the second don't want to do tedious jobs. How were you ever going to keep a alliance running that way. You should be thanking m0o for clearing up for you that you are no alliance. Just a bunch of greedy kids who don't want to follow orders or support the few that do care and put time and effort into making an alliance work. Being part of something larger ALWAYS means having to sacrificing something. That can be wealth, freedom and sometimes even fun. Vote now for the chance to see CCP win the "Best Persistent World Online Game" category for Eve Online: The Second Genesis. (Include in your sig!
Ezra	Posted - 2004.01.08 00:46:00 - [48] Quote: Looked at a map last night and most of 0.0 was empty with only a few peeps it seemed in Venal. Obviously you're blind then, as there has been plenty of activity in other regions than Venal. FYI, the "number of pilots in space" is often bugged and usually shows far less than the actual real number of pilots in a system. If there hasn't been anything for them to rout, why are there 16 podkills in A2-V27? ------------ Ezra Cornell pe0n, Xanadu Corporation
Talon SilverHawk	Posted - 2004.01.08 01:01:00 - [49] Quote: Quote: Looked at a map last night and most of 0.0 was empty with only a few peeps it seemed in Venal. Obviously you're blind then, as there has been plenty of activity in other regions than Venal. FYI, the "number of pilots in space" is often bugged and usually shows far less than the actual real number of pilots in a system. If there hasn't been anything for them to rout, why are there 16 podkills in A2-V27? Love it when someone contradicts themselve in there own post So is it im blind or the fact that the map shows inaccurate readings hmmm What goes around comes around...
dalman	Posted - 2004.01.08 01:04:00 - [50] Quote: Love it when someone contradicts themselve in there own post So is it im blind or the fact that the map shows inaccurate readings hmmm Seriously, if you don't know that the map isn't accurate when local pass about 12, then you've never taken part in big ops of any kind. Seriously, I don't think I've seen the map display more than 20 in one system ever. But I've seen 100+ in local... M.I.A. since 2004-07-30
Stained	Posted - 2004.01.08 01:25:00 - [51] Quote: Quote: I think that until deployable disruptors and a method of tracking pilots in space (Ie. to stop jumping to a 'safe spot') are introduced, any sort of engagement with moo (or any other pirates for that matter is just pointless. OMG.. of course its pointless, a lot of times when I went out to kill someone, they just sit in midspace or log (cept pooti, which is why he's cool ) but why on earth claim CFS free space if you're not willing to defend it 24/7? I can't believe I'm reading this.. I should just go end myself right now before I appear to be a bigger CFS supporter than CFS itself Last time I 1v1 you Blackbird vs Blackbird you ran. Calling us cowards now? .....pfft k. ___________________________________________________________________ Hair is Over-rated.
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2004.01.08 01:31:00 - [52] Quote: Last time I 1v1 you Blackbird vs Blackbird you ran. Calling us cowards now? .....pfft k. k, I warped to the gate, you jammed me from 40km I warp out, then TWD logs on in an apoc before i warp back.. and going to midspace or logging isn't cowardly, everyone does it when they face higher odds.. both cfs and m0o my point was its often pointless to mass together a fleet to free up the gate again when they don't necessarily have to fight you but you still do it if you've got "principles" to defend. don't take things so literally _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
The Reverend	Posted - 2004.01.08 02:46:00 - [53] In the end, whatever the reason, since m0o have moved into an active pirating role around CFS space, the regions described have emptied, the CFS fleet is broken, your morale is all but destroyed and your internal senate is ripping itself apart, all because a corp of 42 members. Empire may be free of our influence for now, but anarchy follows us whereever we go. The question is, do you pay us off now or when u finally realise that having us as your landlords will ruin any chance of u keeping ahead in the race for Tech II. m0ovie links
Homo Erectus	Posted - 2004.01.08 02:48:00 - [54] It seems that history is not without a sense of irony. Curse, home of several piratical corporations, was ousted and run through by those who wished to grope the piratical corporations. Now the CFS, home to those who had a strong disdain of piratical corporations, are having to deal with those pirates who ran from Curse. Sorry CFS, we seemed to mix the concrete that was used for the foundation of your tomb.
BobGhengisKhan	Posted - 2004.01.08 02:51:00 - [55] Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 08/01/2004 02:55:44 Yeah, homo, it was evol that chased us off. Not the constant CA mining, the shouting on teamspeak, nor our abysmally short attention spans
Ends	Posted - 2004.01.08 02:57:00 - [56] Its OK Homo, you just did what you need to do its not your fault. I would be interested in talking to you about how things went in fountain when similar things happened. Seems like fountain is doing OK now. We'll get this figured out. I should point out that the NFSB has not passeed yet. So this all might be for naught.
Homo Erectus	Posted - 2004.01.08 02:57:00 - [57] Your admittance is noted, sarcasm asside. But, you were a member of the CA when the "there's always deniability" campaign was in full swing, so I don't expect a straight arrow to be shot from your bow.
BobGhengisKhan	Posted - 2004.01.08 02:58:00 - [58] I never supported any of those BS "public-relations" ploys. I just wanted to blow things up
Homo Erectus	Posted - 2004.01.08 03:00:00 - [59] Sorry to say Ends, that there isn't much to talk about. When m0o/sinc/TLBC came to Fountain, we simply killed them and they ran away. Good luck to you in your fight.
Lord Zap	Posted - 2004.01.08 03:14:00 - [60] Edited by: Lord Zap on 08/01/2004 03:16:20 Edited by: Lord Zap on 08/01/2004 03:15:39 Quote: Sorry to say Ends, that there isn't much to talk about. When m0o/sinc/TLBC came to Fountain, we simply killed them and they ran away. Good luck to you in your fight. LOL, what a fanciful imagination you possess. ps. Homo you look like a deformed foetus in a space suit

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