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General Coochie Gallente The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.05.23 22:38:00 - [31] Originally by: Derovius Vaden You can pirate in any ship, these pirates are just too scared to play things on hard mode. Off course you can, but your success will be greater with some ships then others, and why neglect a ship that offers you more potential targets and more pontential isk?
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.05.23 22:42:00 - [32] Originally by: General Coochie Originally by: Derovius Vaden You can pirate in any ship, these pirates are just too scared to play things on hard mode. Off course you can, but your success will be greater with some ships then others, and why neglect a ship that offers you more potential targets and more pontential isk? Some people like a challenge?
General Coochie Gallente The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.05.23 23:02:00 - [33] Edited by: General Coochie on 23/05/2007 23:01:49 Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: General Coochie Originally by: Derovius Vaden You can pirate in any ship, these pirates are just too scared to play things on hard mode. Off course you can, but your success will be greater with some ships then others, and why neglect a ship that offers you more potential targets and more pontential isk? Some people like a challenge? Well even if you pick a ship that can take on a wieder range of ships, frigs, cruisers, missile users, gun users. Im pretty sure there are still challengeing fights out there for you no matter what ship you pick. Why limit yourself to a caracal and have a challenge with other cruisers when you can use a vexor and aim to have a challenge against battlecruisers? except for the occational fun of using an underrated ship or a ship you dont normally fly, wich I DO think is an important factor (games are about having fun afterall)
Jaedar Metron Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.05.24 00:13:00 - [34] Woot! so many answers Thanks alot for all the replies, really appreciated. Your post was quite inspiring btw, Coochie I will probably go with one of the dampener setups when Ive gotten my skill right Just one last Q, Is HAM's viable on the Caracal at all? I kind of like those nasty buggers...
General Coochie Gallente The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.05.24 00:38:00 - [35] Edited by: General Coochie on 24/05/2007 00:37:30 Glad you liked, I actually thought about trying that setup for some time, but with a bit better mods. I just need alot better missile skills really. with good skills they (edit: HAMs) hit upp to 22km wich seems good thinking pirating you are limited to 20 or 24km max range. Things with HAMs are the power they use. Even with good skills you would have about 100 power grid left to fit what ever else you need to fit, its not enough for a MWD. However with using a AB setup as I posted above you have enough power to fit HAMs. Think I would have combined it with 3 dampners and 2 cap relays in lows. Dont know if you pirated much but the amounth of targets you catch by using a MWD instead of an AB are enough to irritate you if you are using AB..
Tractormech Caldari Fortune's Fools	Posted - 2007.05.24 04:49:00 - [36] I would say your better off using lights than heavies. The only thing your ever going to be fighting with it are frigs, assualts, and cruisers so they work well, plus they allow enough leftover grid for some tank. 5 x standard launchers 1 x MWD 1 X Webber 2 x Large Extender 2 x spr/pdu I've taken down a few cruisers (thorax, vexors) with this. It works if your looking for something thats super cheap. Plus you have any easy time getting to safety if you bite off more than you can chew, which will happen a lot. The trick is to fly it like a frigate.
hellsknights Hells Angels Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.24 06:08:00 - [37] Originally by: Rez Valintine 5 launchers (best you can afford) 2x Multi Jammers, Warp Disruptor, Shield Extender, Shield Booster any combo of SPR / BCU's This has worked wonders for 1 v 1. I also have a cloak though - so I can pick my targets. Ya but how long can u run your fittings for your cap most run out with all those mids, tell me if im wrong? havent flown a caracal in a while.
kill0rbunny Alpha-Hirogen The Pentagram	Posted - 2007.05.24 09:50:00 - [38] Edited by: kill0rbunny on 24/05/2007 09:48:07 Assault Missile Launcher II [80xBloodclaw Fury Light Missile] Assault Missile Launcher II [80xBloodclaw Fury Light Missile] Assault Missile Launcher II [80xBloodclaw Fury Light Missile] Assault Missile Launcher II [80xBloodclaw Fury Light Missile] Assault Missile Launcher II [80xBloodclaw Fury Light Missile] Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Warp Disruptor I Shield Power Relay I Ballistic Control System I Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II 10038 shield, 33.46/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/19/39/59 1318 armor, E/T/K/Ex=59/44/25/10 1275.0 cap, +7.36/s, -4.35/s 234.0 m/s 99.1 DPS 1. Sit in a belt pretending you're ratting, asking in local if it's okay to do this. 2. Wait for the random noob pirate in his AF/Ceptor/Cruiser to come and attack you because you are an easy target. 3. ... 4. Profit Always carry some precisions and furys and stay alligned so you can warp out if something bigger hits you.
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.05.24 10:14:00 - [39] it's not about not wanting a challenge it's about surverley limiting the kind of targets u can kill. if i go out in a thorax i will engage any cruiser, af's, bc's if they don't look too leet, nub bs, etc etc. if i was in a caracal i would know for a fact that i could not take on half the ships i could in a thorax. shield tanking low dmg ships aren't great for piracy. little tackling ability and die easily. DE
Methem	Posted - 2007.05.24 10:21:00 - [40] Edited by: Methem on 24/05/2007 10:19:49 I cant really find anything I like on the caracal (especially for solo), but this is what I currently have.. 1x med nos 2x hvy assault launcher 2x hvy missile -- 20k scram Web 10MN Ab Active Em hardener Cap recharger -- 1x pdu(or rcu?) 1x bcu -- Thermal shield rig -- 2x hobgoblin It sucks, but at least i can keep a thorax out of blaster range long enough to run away (sometimes)
Methem	Posted - 2007.05.24 10:40:00 - [41] Originally by: hellsknights Originally by: Rez Valintine 5 launchers (best you can afford) 2x Multi Jammers, Warp Disruptor, Shield Extender, Shield Booster any combo of SPR / BCU's This has worked wonders for 1 v 1. I also have a cloak though - so I can pick my targets. Ya but how long can u run your fittings for your cap most run out with all those mids, tell me if im wrong? havent flown a caracal in a while. I may be wrong, but 2x multispec ecm + shield booster + warp disruptor on a caracal (with a cloak??) is gonna get pwned b/c 1 cycle and u will have no cap left Also, SPR with a booster?
valerydarcy Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:31:00 - [42] Originally by: General Coochie Edited by: General Coochie on 23/05/2007 23:48:48 Edited by: General Coochie on 23/05/2007 23:33:34 Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: General Coochie Originally by: Derovius Vaden You can pirate in any ship, these pirates are just too scared to play things on hard mode. Off course you can, but your success will be greater with some ships then others, and why neglect a ship that offers you more potential targets and more pontential isk? Some people like a challenge? Well even if you pick a ship that can take on a wieder range of ships, frigs, cruisers, missile users, gun users. Im pretty sure there are still challengeing fights out there for you no matter what ship you pick. Why limit yourself to a caracal and have a challenge with other cruisers when you can use a vexor and aim to have a challenge against battlecruisers, and at the same time pwn the cruisers if you like? except for the occational fun of using an underrated ship or a ship you dont normally fly, wich I DO think is an important factor (games are about having fun afterall) edit: spelling etc edit:2 And to keep on topic and not jsut posting meaningless bladder, If I were to use a cheap pvp caracal setup one of the setups I would try is: Heavy Missile Launcher I Heavy Missile Launcher I Heavy Missile Launcher I Heavy Missile Launcher I Heavy Missile Launcher I Kapteyn Sensor Array Inhibitor I (cheap dampner gives some km over the unnamed one, rarer on market though) Kapteyn Sensor Array Inhibitor I (cheap dampner) Warp Disruptor I 10MN Afterburner I (hopefully the ratters your after dont use mwd) Cap Recharger I Overdrive Injector System I (to give you the edge to keep range) (if ure nav skills are good maybe replace with another relay and add another sensor dampner instead of the cap recharge, will give you about 8-20 km to AB around at) Capacitor Power Relay I running a dampner setup like this you must be able to sustain your cap the whole fight, in my experience you dont have much dps with dampner setups. Though you could put 2 BCUs on there but with T1 heavies whats ure dps gonna be like? If the fight easely will get longer you must have your cap sustained the whole time. You also must be able to dictate range, not only to avoid getting BBqed but to stop your targets from running away. I dont see how a MWD would go on this except for fitting a cap booster aswell, but then you probably need 2 RCUs in the lows, wich feels wierd to me but who knows it might work. Another thing thats important is skills, without signal suppression to atleast IV I dont think this setup is going anywhere at all. With IV you got about 10-15 to 20km to play around at depending on what you are facing. Compared to 23km decreased lockign range without skills. Drones, I reckon, they will be very bad for you. And to avoid any flaming I only try and give a good answer to the OPs question with the most important premisses in bold here. So if anyone gonna flame my setup keep that in mind Quote: Anyhow, I know Caldari suck solo, but I like Caldari ships, please dont tell me to train for a Thorax Sad All that out of the way, how can I setup my Caracal for some nice lowsec solo piracy? My targets will be Cruisers/Battlecruisers that rats in lowsec. All setups that can handle this are welcome, HAM, hulltanking, ewar, you name it. It needs to be cheap though, as I intend to die alot. just keep training for that titan.
General Coochie Gallente The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.05.24 21:28:00 - [43] Originally by: valerydarcy just keep training for that titan. The difference here is that it takes longer time training for a caracal to be effective then it takes for say a vexor or a celestis to be effective. I would also go as far as saying that 1 month training time on vexor or celestis would out perform a carcal at piracy with 6 months worth of training behind it. When this charachter was only a few months old I had a player 1-1.5 year old in a fully T2 fitted hurricane in structure with my cruiser. It ended with him getting help from a corpy at 10% structure. I dont think the caracal would ever be able to do that.
Gibbal Slogspit Buffed Rumpuss Zit Dids	Posted - 2007.05.25 14:13:00 - [44] Edited by: Gibbal Slogspit on 25/05/2007 14:12:05 5 heavy missile launcher 1 10mn AB 1 24km dis 3 remote damps 1 ballistic control 1 cap relay Yarage
valerydarcy Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2007.05.25 16:09:00 - [45] or not
General Coochie Gallente The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.05.25 18:36:00 - [46] Originally by: valerydarcy or not Or not what? this was at 2nd december. My char is little more then 3 months old. I dont know if Im allowed to mention the other guys name, but he was born 2005.11.08. 1year and 1month old. How did I end up alone with him at planet? I "baited" him to follow me from a gate. He went in this fight, feeling sure of winning. It ended with him luckely escaping and killing me thanks to a corp mate of his. As you see his drones managed to get me to structure, but I managed to pop his drones before they got me, my shields regenerated to almost 50% after that, so I was defenently winning that one. I asked him if he was fully t2 fitted, cause his drones and guns were, and he said pretty much or something like that.
Methem The Hand of Mortis	Posted - 2007.05.26 03:48:00 - [47] Originally by: Jaedar Metron Anyhow, I know Caldari suck solo, but I like Caldari ships, please dont tell me to train for a Thorax This is obviously a caracal thread.. Not a vexor or celestis thread.
General Coochie Gallente The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.05.26 11:29:00 - [48] Yes sorry for derailing more and more. I just cant stand when ppl start trolling and try and make you look dumb when they do not know what they are talking about. Anyways, to the OP let us know how it goes, and post your most successful setup ye?

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