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Sexy Schoolgirl
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Posted - 2007.05.24 02:56:00 -
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Let's face it, cloaker clowns and nano weenies are ruining the pure pvp aspect. There are no viable ways to counter these tactics. We greatly need the following:
1. Uncloaking bubbles... these bubbles can be launched like dictor bubbles and have a 50km radius from the ship. They are undetectable. If we can't see claokers, they shouldn't be able to see where we have an anti-cloaker.
2. Webbing bubbles... these do a 50% web to all ships within its range, perhaps 20km.
All of the above can be available in different sizes, different time variations, and even made in anchorable permanent bubbles.
... nuff said.
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Vicious Phoenix
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Posted - 2007.05.24 03:24:00 -
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Learn to use tactics and stop asking for an easy mode. You want to slow people down get a minnie recon, you want to uncloak people fit smartbombs or have inties circle the area.
CFW (Certified Forum Warrior) I kill people ingame too.
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Haffrage
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.24 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sexy Schoolgirl 1. Uncloaking bubbles... these bubbles can be launched like dictor bubbles and have a 50km radius from the ship. They are undetectable. If we can't see claokers, they shouldn't be able to see where we have an anti-cloaker.
Ugh, undetectable? No.
Quote: 2. Webbing bubbles... these do a 50% web to all ships within its range, perhaps 20km.
GOD no. Why would anyone ever use warp disruption bubbles again? The biggest problem with people getting away is you can't lock them in time - they enter warp too fast. You're always just a split second short. A web bubble would slow everybody's acceleration down just enough, all you need is 2 sensor boosted lachesises and nobody escapes. -----
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2007.05.24 04:11:00 -
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Like I always say, WTB: Smack Supression Bubble.
I have mixed feelings about new kinds of bubbles. I like the idea generally: more toys, more variety on situations when you jump through a gate, more tactical mini-environments. But I dislike the fact that they'd likely push even more conflicts in the game into the ol' "wttfbbq by gatecamp" scenario, especially if there's no limit on overlapping them.
It'd be better if you could only have one type of bubble deployed in an area so you had to choose what kind of trap to set, but then you run into a serious problem when both sides want to use bubbles. I'm not sure how to get around that. Maybe a priority list: for example, a webber bubble always cancels an anti-cloak bubble, and a disruptor bubble always cancels any other type. I don't know though.
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Steel Tigeress
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Posted - 2007.05.24 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: Vicious Phoenix Learn to use tactics and stop asking for an easy mode. You want to slow people down get a minnie recon, you want to uncloak people fit smartbombs or have inties circle the area.
Except smartbombs dont uncloak people. They damage the ship but the cloak is not removed.
Test your own ideas befor posting please.
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Dodona
Gallente Azure Horizon Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.05.24 05:20:00 -
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How about anti-bubble bubbles?
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Magnum III
Journey On Squad
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Posted - 2007.05.24 06:23:00 -
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The problem is if we have to catch eachother in the 1st place then something is wrong.
Why is it always people who want to PvP go after people who are not interested?
I'm making my own ships now and getting a feet so I can afford to loose them but then what am I going to do?
Gee I feel like loosing a ship today? For what? I'm not protecting anything.
We need much easyer to get bases so as it is not just get one get protected and it goes back to easy mode.
We need to have things to protect the we can afford to loose.
In 0.0 they have to invent wars? If you live there and are in good then no problems unless some deep penitrating force is comming in?
Fake wars are fun because we are using tactics.
Ahhh blobidy boo grobinyumbooya esquant ipsy tooga borngy?
You understand what I'm sayin?
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr Ihatalo Internal Security Ihatalo Cartel
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Posted - 2007.05.24 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sexy Schoolgirl Let's face it, cloaker clowns and nano weenies are ruining the pure pvp aspect. There are no viable ways to counter these tactics. We greatly need the following:
1. Uncloaking bubbles... these bubbles can be launched like dictor bubbles and have a 50km radius from the ship. They are undetectable. If we can't see claokers, they shouldn't be able to see where we have an anti-cloaker.
2. Webbing bubbles... these do a 50% web to all ships within its range, perhaps 20km.
All of the above can be available in different sizes, different time variations, and even made in anchorable permanent bubbles.
... nuff said.
Dood or Doodette in your toons case... How many cups of moron did you have before posting that?
I think your in need of a brain. or engage before thinking. ( dont worry we are all guilty of that crime sooner or later. ) -
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Ling Xiao
Prism Project Technologies
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Posted - 2007.05.24 07:32:00 -
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Edited by: Ling Xiao on 24/05/2007 07:30:06 Did you say "NOW"?!
Uh oh devs, you better drop everything and get to work! __________ If you think the game is rigged, why are you still playing? |
Lord Frost
Minmatar The Crystal Method
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Posted - 2007.05.24 22:25:00 -
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For every tactic there is a counter tactic that is within a reasonable time and personelle effectiveness. When a cloaking crew masses about with no threat to themselves except for lame bait tactics which almost never work... the counter to them is a huge problem.
I agree with op on anti-cloaking bubbles... they should be undetectable. Which gives both sides an interesting scheme to work with. We would now have a tactic for offensive gangs, but also a counter tactic for defensive gangs.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.24 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dodona How about anti-bubble bubbles?
We'd definately need anti-anti bubbles in that case.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.05.24 22:32:00 -
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Get off my lawn, ya hippie!
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.24 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sexy Schoolgirl Let's face it, cloaker clowns and nano weenies are ruining the pure pvp aspect. There are no viable ways to counter these tactics. We greatly need the following:
1. Uncloaking bubbles... these bubbles can be launched like dictor bubbles and have a 50km radius from the ship. They are undetectable. If we can't see claokers, they shouldn't be able to see where we have an anti-cloaker.
2. Webbing bubbles... these do a 50% web to all ships within its range, perhaps 20km.
All of the above can be available in different sizes, different time variations, and even made in anchorable permanent bubbles.
... nuff said.
Ahhh I just can't leave this post alone.
I love how you put "NOW" in your title. Lets say you had put the #1 best idea for the game EVER in your post, along with the correct code to instantly plug it in on TQ and make the game 1000x better. As a dev, I'd look at the NOW in your post and promptly put it in my "To maybe look at one day if I am bored and hell has frozen over" pile. Now, in this case, it is some of the stupidest ideas, which compounds the fact that you put a rediculous NOW in your title.
In closing, putting ... nuff said at the end of a post where you have, in fact, said nothing also makes me want to flame you into eternity.
NUFF SAID NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!RARWWWWWWWRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nicholas Barker
MASS
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Posted - 2007.05.24 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: Sexy Schoolgirl 1. Uncloaking bubbles... these bubbles can be launched like dictor bubbles and have a 50km radius from the ship. They are undetectable. If we can't see claokers, they shouldn't be able to see where we have an anti-cloaker.
Ugh, undetectable? No.
Quote: 2. Webbing bubbles... these do a 50% web to all ships within its range, perhaps 20km.
GOD no. Why would anyone ever use warp disruption bubbles again? The biggest problem with people getting away is you can't lock them in time - they enter warp too fast. You're always just a split second short. A web bubble would slow everybody's acceleration down just enough, all you need is 2 sensor boosted lachesises and nobody escapes.
actually you're wrong, acceleration is calculated by a percentage per second, just like your speed to enter warp is a percentage, you'd enter warp just as quickly. Only problem is people stacking them so you end up totaly ******!
Also, what about the slower ships that can't get into warp fast enough would stand no chance of getting back to the gate. Basicly this guy is asking for things that would just make ganks easier. ---
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Sexy Schoolgirl
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Posted - 2007.05.24 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: Sexy Schoolgirl on 24/05/2007 22:41:52
Originally by: Wylker
Ahhh I just can't leave this post alone.
I love how you put "NOW" in your title. Lets say you had put the #1 best idea for the game EVER in your post, along with the correct code to instantly plug it in on TQ and make the game 1000x better. As a dev, I'd look at the NOW in your post and promptly put it in my "To maybe look at one day if I am bored and hell has frozen over" pile. Now, in this case, it is some of the stupidest ideas, which compounds the fact that you put a rediculous NOW in your title.
In closing, putting ... nuff said at the end of a post where you have, in fact, said nothing also makes me want to flame you into eternity.
NUFF SAID NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!RARWWWWWWWRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heheh...look! a 13yo child. Glad you felt the need to post. Atleast I have content... you have dimwitedness. (yes I made up a word... just for you).
I can quite simply guarantee my "NOW" was scarcasm... something don't get. And, I can near guarentee cloaks will be changed in the near future. Oh, and the future is NOW.
You've been outwitted.
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BMWM6
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Posted - 2007.05.24 22:43:00 -
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Nerf this .. Nerf that I can't kill xyz so I need CCP to make me a abc to kill xyz give me a break
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Sexy Schoolgirl
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Posted - 2007.05.24 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: BMWM6 Nerf this .. Nerf that I can't kill xyz so I need CCP to make me a abc to kill xyz give me a break
I can't kill a Titan... you dont see me asking for an anti-titan. So why come here and post a ******* pathetic reply to get your own rocks off and come across as an uber ego weeny boy?
Cloak away you nerd.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.05.24 22:50:00 -
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Edited by: James Lyrus on 24/05/2007 22:49:24
Originally by: Vicious Phoenix Learn to use tactics and stop asking for an easy mode. You want to slow people down get a minnie recon, you want to uncloak people fit smartbombs or have inties circle the area.
Actually, that irritates me a little. I like recon ships, but some kind of 'recon lite' would be really rather nice. Ya'know, like having web and scramble range bonuses on the Celesis and Bellicose (not as good of course). Bit like the BB, where you can have a jammer ship, without a specific racial ship at 5.
Oh, and smarties don't work any more, and hunting covops in an inty is far more like 'flying your ship' than EVE seems to support...
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.24 22:52:00 -
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Edited by: Wylker on 24/05/2007 22:52:09
Originally by: Sexy Schoolgirl Edited by: Sexy Schoolgirl on 24/05/2007 22:41:52
Originally by: Wylker
Ahhh I just can't leave this post alone.
I love how you put "NOW" in your title. Lets say you had put the #1 best idea for the game EVER in your post, along with the correct code to instantly plug it in on TQ and make the game 1000x better. As a dev, I'd look at the NOW in your post and promptly put it in my "To maybe look at one day if I am bored and hell has frozen over" pile. Now, in this case, it is some of the stupidest ideas, which compounds the fact that you put a rediculous NOW in your title.
In closing, putting ... nuff said at the end of a post where you have, in fact, said nothing also makes me want to flame you into eternity.
NUFF SAID NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!RARWWWWWWWRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heheh...look! a 13yo child. Glad you felt the need to post. Atleast I have content... you have dimwitedness. (yes I made up a word... just for you).
I can quite simply guarantee my "NOW" was scarcasm... something don't get. And, I can near guarentee cloaks will be changed in the near future. Oh, and the future is NOW.
You've been outwitted.
Um, cloaks will likely be changed, but that doesn't change the level of stupidity in your ideas. If I was REALLY going to engage you in a battle of wits, I'd talk about your half formed, narrow minded views of game mechanics, your lack of insight into unintended side effects of your proposals, your inability to post suggestions in the suggestion forum, and I'd cap it off with some witticism about your terrible consistancy in flaming someone about flaming you.
However, since I've already been outwitted and I don't get sarcasm, I'll just mosey on back to my 8th grade class and cry myself to sleep.
*edit* Hi2u James Lyrus! */edit*
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F9OOEX
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Posted - 2007.05.24 22:58:00 -
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Edited by: F9OOEX on 24/05/2007 23:02:59
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Khatred
Fluffy Mungoose Guinea Pigs
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Posted - 2007.05.24 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sexy Schoolgirl Let's face it, cloaker clowns and nano weenies are ruining the pure pvp aspect.
Wich one is the so called pure pvp aspect? The safety of the blob?
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.05.24 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Vicious Phoenix Learn to use tactics and stop asking for an easy mode. You want to slow people down get a minnie recon, you want to uncloak people fit smartbombs or have inties circle the area.
well said ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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JoDirt
Minmatar House of Geezer
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Posted - 2007.05.24 23:07:00 -
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sign me up for a "I WIN" bubble!
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MrLobster
Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.05.24 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Vicious Phoenix Learn to use tactics and stop asking for an easy mode. You want to slow people down get a minnie recon, you want to uncloak people fit smartbombs or have inties circle the area.
Which leads to you wanting to remove warp bubbles and dictors, because scrammers do the job :) __________________________
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CrestoftheStars
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.05.24 23:34:00 -
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like where the idea is going but this is WAY overpowering the defenders.. gatechamps is already a too big of a problem, so NO
Originally by: Sexy Schoolgirl Let's face it, cloaker clowns and nano weenies are ruining the pure pvp aspect. There are no viable ways to counter these tactics. We greatly need the following:
1. Uncloaking bubbles... these bubbles can be launched like dictor bubbles and have a 50km radius from the ship. They are undetectable. If we can't see claokers, they shouldn't be able to see where we have an anti-cloaker.
2. Webbing bubbles... these do a 50% web to all ships within its range, perhaps 20km.
All of the above can be available in different sizes, different time variations, and even made in anchorable permanent bubbles.
... nuff said.
___________________________________________ Humans take everything that is beautiful and sweet and turn it into something horrifying and ugly.
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CrestoftheStars
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.05.24 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sexy Schoolgirl
Originally by: BMWM6 Nerf this .. Nerf that I can't kill xyz so I need CCP to make me a abc to kill xyz give me a break
I can't kill a Titan... you dont see me asking for an anti-titan. So why come here and post a ******* pathetic reply to get your own rocks off and come across as an uber ego weeny boy?
Cloak away you nerd.
beheave.. and be nice, it was a suggetion be constructive instead of flaming your whines at him for making the suggetion ___________________________________________ Humans take everything that is beautiful and sweet and turn it into something horrifying and ugly.
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