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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2007.05.24 11:00:00 -
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So I've been scouring the eve item database and found a few modiles like Drone Damage Mods and rigs.
The mods take a lowslot and give at least a 17% bonus to damage. The rigs give a 10% bonus at least.
I'd love to have the ability to gimp my tank to do pure dps with drones. What do you think? _________________ Burn. |

Neuromandis
Novastorm Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.24 11:57:00 -
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I think that drones do enough damage as it is already tbh. We're talking serious imbalance here...
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2007.05.24 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Neuromandis I think that drones do enough damage as it is already tbh. We're talking serious imbalance here...
That's just like me saying your cruise missiles are overly broken and you can get your ROF down to stupid levels and pummel me with always hitting damage.
At least my drones can miss. _________________ Burn.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Originally by: Neuromandis I think that drones do enough damage as it is already tbh. We're talking serious imbalance here...
That's just like me saying your cruise missiles are overly broken and you can get your ROF down to stupid levels and pummel me with always hitting damage.
At least my drones can miss.
Got to agree with you mate. Would be like saying they can't use the ballistic controls with torps coz they already do enough damage. Sacraficing tank for gank sounds fair imo
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Skuld OdinsDottir
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:02:00 -
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drone damage mods aren't ingame.
The drone rigs are for Drone SENTRIES only, so no effect on light, medium, heavy.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Skuld OdinsDottir drone damage mods aren't ingame.
The drone rigs are for Drone SENTRIES only, so no effect on light, medium, heavy.
I know. As I said, they're in the database, but not enabled. What do you think though, wouldn't it be spiffy to have them? _________________ Burn.
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Dave White
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:05:00 -
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I think they stated somewhere in a dev blog a while ago, they didn't dare to introduce them because it would be too overpowered
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sdmbist5 miner
CORE.
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:36:00 -
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domi with 3 of those would be doing ~ 640DPS with T2 Orges..... (assming stacking penalty). use that with sentry guns and some mid slots a dimi could do 550ish DPS at 120km with wardens. I don't think any ship could do that much DPS at that range with only 5 turret slots.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 24/05/2007 12:47:13
Originally by: sdmbist5 miner domi with 3 of those would be doing ~ 640DPS with T2 Orges..... (assming stacking penalty). use that with sentry guns and some mid slots a dimi could do 550ish DPS at 120km with wardens. I don't think any ship could do that much DPS at that range with only 5 turret slots.
Are you saying drones (esp. Ogre IIs) have a 0 travel time to any destination?
Last time I checked they're slower than torpedoes.
Further, 640 DPS! HELL YEAH :D I already love how people fear and cower to my drones when they come hovering out of my bay like little innocent but deadly toys... but doing 640 DPS with Drones would likely mean I'd DIE to anything that scratches me due to lack of something called DEFENSE.
Just as in any game, balance usually finds a way to get in the way and make everything "fair."
So check it out. My Dominix has 3 Drone Damage Mods and 3 Drone Damage Rigs. Crap, my drones are INSANE. I have Ogre IIs that do 6 billion DPS and I almost actually saw Red on a Polaris frig on the test server (this is a total joke btw, for those of you that currently have your jaw dropped). But ZOMGB I got totally shot up by like, this sniping Tempest right? My drones took like, FIVE MINUTES to get there because they move about the same speed as escargo. Once they got there though they went KAPOWALALLAERZ U DIE NOW!!1 Because even though we're both in battleships we killed each other dead because we both stab out our guns and drones and wouldn't be able to tank a Navitas with only mining lasers fitted. ._.
Even better check this out: I've got a Myrmidon with a fantastic tank and I slapped 3 Drone Damage Rigs in because I was bored. So, I've got my Myrm hanging out and OMG what's this? Why, it's a Drake! What a fair fight! Ok, I'm going to hit him with drones! OH he's so FUX... hey... wtf..?! HEY STOP SHOOTING MY DRONES MAN!!!!!!!!!! HEY!! HEY!!!!!!!!! OMG MY DRONE DIED!!!! /me scrambles to release anoth... ugh.. 125m3 dronebay and they're all out.. I have no guns fitted.. wtf. DUDE YOU JUST EFFECTIVELY BLEW UP ONE OF MY GUNS WTF >=|
Cmon dude get serious. If you want to whine about how much DPS my Ogres are doing, SHOOT ME AND DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE IT. _________________ Burn.
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General Xerxes
Delta Omega Iota Inc. Breidablik
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:43:00 -
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I'd love to have more drone related mods in the game, although drone mods and rigs are notorius for not working for ages after release. If they're gonna be overpowered with those percentages, make 'em lower. It's not really fair that every other major weapon system gets mods to boost damage and drones don't.
Hopefully more drone mods would also encourage more variety in Domi and other drone ship setups.
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:53:00 -
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Drones that dont suck?
ARE YOU HIGH?!!

Most of my SP is in drones.. and as much as i like ogre II's they can go die in a hole due to their speed... berserker II's are the future.
I use sentry drones a lot, their damage is amazing against capitals in particular. And those saying "zomg domis will pwn at 120km!!!" settle down... most BS's can carry at least a few sentrys.
The domi already has a **** tank... i know that people will say thats blasphemy but it has less PG and low slots than a mega... its just used as a tankboat. It has a hybrid damage bonus but its crippling lack of PG means that the vaaaast majority stick to tank&nos.
If PG rigs get cheap we might see a super breed of domi with blasters+drones... the nos nerf might also bring this on.
Long live drone boats <3
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w0rmy
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.05.24 12:59:00 -
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[WTB] Drones that follow orders.
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:01:00 -
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Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 24/05/2007 13:01:46
Originally by: w0rmy [WTB] Drones that follow orders.
Drone Frustration V
edit: click a couple times, my host is having issues.. mailing them now _________________ Burn.
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franny
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:03:00 -
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5.3m SP in drones 1.2m SP in gunnery  Gall BS 5
i'd love some way to up my drone dmg
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w0rmy
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: franny 5.3m SP in drones 1.2m SP in gunnery  Gall BS 5
i'd love some way to up my drone dmg
So would I, but I believe NOS need some work before a Domi gets drone damage mods 
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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franny
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 24/05/2007 13:01:46
Originally by: w0rmy [WTB] Drones that follow orders.
Drone Frustration V
edit: click a couple times, my host is having issues.. mailing them now
<3 that is SO true, I swear my 5th one is playing CS
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w0rmy
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: franny
<3 that is SO true, I swear my 5th one is playing CS
Ive got two that just keep making out 
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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franny
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: franny 5.3m SP in drones 1.2m SP in gunnery  Gall BS 5
i'd love some way to up my drone dmg
So would I, but I believe NOS need some work before a Domi gets drone damage mods 
I can think of a FAR deadlier setup, would need to work on my **** poor gunnery tho
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w0rmy
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: franny
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: franny 5.3m SP in drones 1.2m SP in gunnery  Gall BS 5
i'd love some way to up my drone dmg
So would I, but I believe NOS need some work before a Domi gets drone damage mods 
I can think of a FAR deadlier setup, would need to work on my **** poor gunnery tho
Shield tanked blaster bomi with drone damage mods!
I like it! 
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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franny
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:14:00 -
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shh, you'll get it nerfed before it even comes out!
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Extregar Qvint
Caldari FinFleet
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Posted - 2007.05.24 13:20:00 -
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Agree, bring on more specialized drone boats. Bigger dronebays, less gun/nos slots. More mods to augment these ships. (Damage mods, speed mods for drones etc.) And a mod that increases drone bay space.
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Armadala
Gallente Irata III Trek Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:56:00 -
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All i hear is siig saying Im a dirty ****.... Drone love FTW
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no1knowsWho
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: umop 3pisdn (...)The domi (...) has less PG and low slots than a mega (...)
lol
...(faction BSs are out of scope) --- That is a Templar, an Amarr fighter. It is a combat drone used by carriers. |

AstroPhobic
Minmatar STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:22:00 -
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I must agree with the OP.
To some of you, it seems like this idea would make overpowered ships.... even more overpowered. But drones have MANY flaws(among them bugs), but the main one being is that they're destructable. It doesn't take a genious to figure out that smartbomb > drones, Webber > drones, etc. Drones may be affected again when/if an AOF weapon is introduced.
So you whine, and say, what about the Damp/Drone combo? This forces you to think outside the box. Sensor Boosters, Remote Sensor Boosters, a different combination of drones [ECM? Neut? Web/t2 mediums?]
All I see here is adding diversity. The EVE community can overcome anything, no matter how overpowered it seems (Moms for example?), with some things really proving NOT to be that overpowered.
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:54:00 -
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Drone bays are, in effect, High-High slots that require no cpu, no grid, no cap and there's no ship with this extra rack of slots that is gimped to compensate for it.
With the imbalanced number of people currently loving the Drone+Nos+ECM ships (myrm, domi) it is hard to ignore that this style of play is frankly, overplayed.
So quite why one might feel this simplistic layout needs any encouraging boosts when it is already a battlefield proven "usually I-Win Button" build is beyond me.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2007.05.24 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Blands With the imbalanced number of people currently loving the Drone+Nos+ECM ships (myrm, domi) it is hard to ignore that this style of play is frankly, overplayed.
WTB ship that cannot fit every type of module in the game plz!
Get real.
Each race has their own slice of the pie. Believe it or not, Gallente hybrid weapons are offset by Caldari SUPERMISSILES for a few reasons:
1) Missiles always hit, and when they hit, they hurt 2) Missiles can do all types of damage, hyrbids are always only kintherm 3) The damage modifier on any hybrid gun is lower than the modifier on the comparable missile.
Caldari are anti-Gallente, and it shows in so many ways. And remember, you can always SHOOT our guns down, and a lot of us rely on only drones for offense. Those of us that do, it's our fault if we get them killed, but all I'm asking for is the chance for them to do a little more damage on the way out before you blow them up with your AOE weapon that you probably didn't fit... just so you have a reason to complain about drones. My bad. :P _________________ Burn.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.05.24 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 24/05/2007 13:01:46
Originally by: w0rmy [WTB] Drones that follow orders.
Drone Frustration V
edit: click a couple times, my host is having issues.. mailing them now
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.05.24 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Utter ****.
Ah, the trend to end all trends, coming to a thread near you.
You ask people what they think, then you get all high and mighty with veiled insults when they disagree? Can't you just accept that not everybody wants to see it your way?
I can counter all your points with embarrassing ease, but you already made it clear that you are not the sort of person who would want or appreciate it.
Just Stop.
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Nim9i5
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Posted - 2007.05.24 23:34:00 -
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decrease drone interfacing to 5 percent bonus.
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CrestoftheStars
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.05.24 23:50:00 -
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have you ever mead a nos domi?! then you would know what the problem is, its NOT the drones, so go right ahead and get some balanced modules in for them (excatly the same as any other weapon type have) but FGS make it so you can only fit ONE nos one every ship thats not designed with bonusses for nos, 2 maybe 3 for those that is designed for it (with bonusses to this)
get some balance its not that hard (been saying it ever since i said that focus fire should have a stacking penalty, hopefully they will do both at some point... sigh)
Originally by: AstroPhobic I must agree with the OP.
To some of you, it seems like this idea would make overpowered ships.... even more overpowered. But drones have MANY flaws(among them bugs), but the main one being is that they're destructable. It doesn't take a genious to figure out that smartbomb > drones, Webber > drones, etc. Drones may be affected again when/if an AOF weapon is introduced.
So you whine, and say, what about the Damp/Drone combo? This forces you to think outside the box. Sensor Boosters, Remote Sensor Boosters, a different combination of drones [ECM? Neut? Web/t2 mediums?]
All I see here is adding diversity. The EVE community can overcome anything, no matter how overpowered it seems (Moms for example?), with some things really proving NOT to be that overpowered.
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