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Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2007.05.24 11:00:00 - [1] So I've been scouring the eve item database and found a few modiles like Drone Damage Mods and rigs. The mods take a lowslot and give at least a 17% bonus to damage. The rigs give a 10% bonus at least. I'd love to have the ability to gimp my tank to do pure dps with drones. What do you think? _________________ Burn.
Neuromandis Novastorm Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.24 11:57:00 - [2] I think that drones do enough damage as it is already tbh. We're talking serious imbalance here...
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2007.05.24 11:59:00 - [3] Originally by: Neuromandis I think that drones do enough damage as it is already tbh. We're talking serious imbalance here... That's just like me saying your cruise missiles are overly broken and you can get your ROF down to stupid levels and pummel me with always hitting damage. At least my drones can miss. _________________ Burn.
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.24 12:01:00 - [4] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Originally by: Neuromandis I think that drones do enough damage as it is already tbh. We're talking serious imbalance here... That's just like me saying your cruise missiles are overly broken and you can get your ROF down to stupid levels and pummel me with always hitting damage. At least my drones can miss. Got to agree with you mate. Would be like saying they can't use the ballistic controls with torps coz they already do enough damage. Sacraficing tank for gank sounds fair imo BoB vs the coalition of family values
Skuld OdinsDottir	Posted - 2007.05.24 12:02:00 - [5] drone damage mods aren't ingame. The drone rigs are for Drone SENTRIES only, so no effect on light, medium, heavy. BAD VISTA
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2007.05.24 12:03:00 - [6] Originally by: Skuld OdinsDottir drone damage mods aren't ingame. The drone rigs are for Drone SENTRIES only, so no effect on light, medium, heavy. I know. As I said, they're in the database, but not enabled. What do you think though, wouldn't it be spiffy to have them? _________________ Burn.
Dave White coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.24 12:05:00 - [7] I think they stated somewhere in a dev blog a while ago, they didn't dare to introduce them because it would be too overpowered CORA. Killboard Personal Killboard
sdmbist5 miner CORE.	Posted - 2007.05.24 12:36:00 - [8] domi with 3 of those would be doing ~ 640DPS with T2 Orges..... (assming stacking penalty). use that with sentry guns and some mid slots a dimi could do 550ish DPS at 120km with wardens. I don't think any ship could do that much DPS at that range with only 5 turret slots.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2007.05.24 12:38:00 - [9] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 24/05/2007 12:47:13 Originally by: sdmbist5 miner domi with 3 of those would be doing ~ 640DPS with T2 Orges..... (assming stacking penalty). use that with sentry guns and some mid slots a dimi could do 550ish DPS at 120km with wardens. I don't think any ship could do that much DPS at that range with only 5 turret slots. Are you saying drones (esp. Ogre IIs) have a 0 travel time to any destination? Last time I checked they're slower than torpedoes. Further, 640 DPS! HELL YEAH :D I already love how people fear and cower to my drones when they come hovering out of my bay like little innocent but deadly toys... but doing 640 DPS with Drones would likely mean I'd DIE to anything that scratches me due to lack of something called DEFENSE. Just as in any game, balance usually finds a way to get in the way and make everything "fair." So check it out. My Dominix has 3 Drone Damage Mods and 3 Drone Damage Rigs. Crap, my drones are INSANE. I have Ogre IIs that do 6 billion DPS and I almost actually saw Red on a Polaris frig on the test server (this is a total joke btw, for those of you that currently have your jaw dropped). But ZOMGB I got totally shot up by like, this sniping Tempest right? My drones took like, FIVE MINUTES to get there because they move about the same speed as escargo. Once they got there though they went KAPOWALALLAERZ U DIE NOW!!1 Because even though we're both in battleships we killed each other dead because we both stab out our guns and drones and wouldn't be able to tank a Navitas with only mining lasers fitted. ._. Even better check this out: I've got a Myrmidon with a fantastic tank and I slapped 3 Drone Damage Rigs in because I was bored. So, I've got my Myrm hanging out and OMG what's this? Why, it's a Drake! What a fair fight! Ok, I'm going to hit him with drones! OH he's so FUX... hey... wtf..?! HEY STOP SHOOTING MY DRONES MAN!!!!!!!!!! HEY!! HEY!!!!!!!!! OMG MY DRONE DIED!!!! /me scrambles to release anoth... ugh.. 125m3 dronebay and they're all out.. I have no guns fitted.. wtf. DUDE YOU JUST EFFECTIVELY BLEW UP ONE OF MY GUNS WTF >=\| Cmon dude get serious. If you want to whine about how much DPS my Ogres are doing, SHOOT ME AND DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE IT. _________________ Burn.
General Xerxes Delta Omega Iota Inc. Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.24 12:43:00 - [10] I'd love to have more drone related mods in the game, although drone mods and rigs are notorius for not working for ages after release. If they're gonna be overpowered with those percentages, make 'em lower. It's not really fair that every other major weapon system gets mods to boost damage and drones don't. Hopefully more drone mods would also encourage more variety in Domi and other drone ship setups.
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.05.24 12:53:00 - [11] Drones that dont suck? ARE YOU HIGH?!! Most of my SP is in drones.. and as much as i like ogre II's they can go die in a hole due to their speed... berserker II's are the future. I use sentry drones a lot, their damage is amazing against capitals in particular. And those saying "zomg domis will pwn at 120km!!!" settle down... most BS's can carry at least a few sentrys. The domi already has a **** tank... i know that people will say thats blasphemy but it has less PG and low slots than a mega... its just used as a tankboat. It has a hybrid damage bonus but its crippling lack of PG means that the vaaaast majority stick to tank&nos. If PG rigs get cheap we might see a super breed of domi with blasters+drones... the nos nerf might also bring this on. Long live drone boats <3
w0rmy M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.05.24 12:59:00 - [12] [WTB] Drones that follow orders. Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2007.05.24 13:01:00 - [13] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 24/05/2007 13:01:46 Originally by: w0rmy [WTB] Drones that follow orders. Drone Frustration V edit: click a couple times, my host is having issues.. mailing them now _________________ Burn.
franny Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.05.24 13:03:00 - [14] 5.3m SP in drones 1.2m SP in gunnery Gall BS 5 i'd love some way to up my drone dmg
w0rmy M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.05.24 13:04:00 - [15] Originally by: franny 5.3m SP in drones 1.2m SP in gunnery Gall BS 5 i'd love some way to up my drone dmg So would I, but I believe NOS need some work before a Domi gets drone damage mods Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
franny Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.05.24 13:05:00 - [16] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 24/05/2007 13:01:46 Originally by: w0rmy [WTB] Drones that follow orders. Drone Frustration V edit: click a couple times, my host is having issues.. mailing them now <3 that is SO true, I swear my 5th one is playing CS
w0rmy M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.05.24 13:06:00 - [17] Originally by: franny <3 that is SO true, I swear my 5th one is playing CS Ive got two that just keep making out Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
franny Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.05.24 13:12:00 - [18] Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: franny 5.3m SP in drones 1.2m SP in gunnery Gall BS 5 i'd love some way to up my drone dmg So would I, but I believe NOS need some work before a Domi gets drone damage mods I can think of a FAR deadlier setup, would need to work on my **** poor gunnery tho
w0rmy M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.05.24 13:13:00 - [19] Originally by: franny Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: franny 5.3m SP in drones 1.2m SP in gunnery Gall BS 5 i'd love some way to up my drone dmg So would I, but I believe NOS need some work before a Domi gets drone damage mods I can think of a FAR deadlier setup, would need to work on my ** poor gunnery tho Shield tanked blaster bomi with drone damage mods! I like it! Originally by:** CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
franny Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.05.24 13:14:00 - [20] shh, you'll get it nerfed before it even comes out!
Extregar Qvint Caldari FinFleet	Posted - 2007.05.24 13:20:00 - [21] Agree, bring on more specialized drone boats. Bigger dronebays, less gun/nos slots. More mods to augment these ships. (Damage mods, speed mods for drones etc.) And a mod that increases drone bay space.
Armadala Gallente Irata III Trek Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.24 14:56:00 - [22] All i hear is siig saying Im a dirty ****.... Drone love FTW
no1knowsWho	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:06:00 - [23] Originally by: umop 3pisdn (...)The domi (...) has less PG and low slots than a mega (...) lol ...(faction BSs are out of scope) --- That is a Templar, an Amarr fighter. It is a combat drone used by carriers.
AstroPhobic Minmatar STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:22:00 - [24] I must agree with the OP. To some of you, it seems like this idea would make overpowered ships.... even more overpowered. But drones have MANY flaws(among them bugs), but the main one being is that they're destructable. It doesn't take a genious to figure out that smartbomb > drones, Webber > drones, etc. Drones may be affected again when/if an AOF weapon is introduced. So you whine, and say, what about the Damp/Drone combo? This forces you to think outside the box. Sensor Boosters, Remote Sensor Boosters, a different combination of drones [ECM? Neut? Web/t2 mediums?] All I see here is adding diversity. The EVE community can overcome anything, no matter how overpowered it seems (Moms for example?), with some things really proving NOT to be that overpowered.
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:54:00 - [25] Drone bays are, in effect, High-High slots that require no cpu, no grid, no cap and there's no ship with this extra rack of slots that is gimped to compensate for it. With the imbalanced number of people currently loving the Drone+Nos+ECM ships (myrm, domi) it is hard to ignore that this style of play is frankly, overplayed. So quite why one might feel this simplistic layout needs any encouraging boosts when it is already a battlefield proven "usually I-Win Button" build is beyond me. Eve: Cheats prosper.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2007.05.24 18:06:00 - [26] Originally by: Gaven Blands With the imbalanced number of people currently loving the Drone+Nos+ECM ships (myrm, domi) it is hard to ignore that this style of play is frankly, overplayed. WTB ship that cannot fit every type of module in the game plz! Get real. Each race has their own slice of the pie. Believe it or not, Gallente hybrid weapons are offset by Caldari SUPERMISSILES for a few reasons: 1) Missiles always hit, and when they hit, they hurt 2) Missiles can do all types of damage, hyrbids are always only kintherm 3) The damage modifier on any hybrid gun is lower than the modifier on the comparable missile. Caldari are anti-Gallente, and it shows in so many ways. And remember, you can always SHOOT our guns down, and a lot of us rely on only drones for offense. Those of us that do, it's our fault if we get them killed, but all I'm asking for is the chance for them to do a little more damage on the way out before you blow them up with your AOE weapon that you probably didn't fit... just so you have a reason to complain about drones. My bad. :P _________________ Burn.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.24 19:25:00 - [27] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 24/05/2007 13:01:46 Originally by: w0rmy [WTB] Drones that follow orders. Drone Frustration V edit: click a couple times, my host is having issues.. mailing them now "installing world of warcraft" ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:02:00 - [28] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Utter ****. Ah, the trend to end all trends, coming to a thread near you. You ask people what they think, then you get all high and mighty with veiled insults when they disagree? Can't you just accept that not everybody wants to see it your way? I can counter all your points with embarrassing ease, but you already made it clear that you are not the sort of person who would want or appreciate it. Just Stop. Eve: Cheats prosper.
Nim9i5	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:34:00 - [29] decrease drone interfacing to 5 percent bonus.
CrestoftheStars Perkone	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:50:00 - [30] have you ever mead a nos domi?! then you would know what the problem is, its NOT the drones, so go right ahead and get some balanced modules in for them (excatly the same as any other weapon type have) but FGS make it so you can only fit ONE nos one every ship thats not designed with bonusses for nos, 2 maybe 3 for those that is designed for it (with bonusses to this) get some balance its not that hard (been saying it ever since i said that focus fire should have a stacking penalty, hopefully they will do both at some point... sigh) Originally by: AstroPhobic I must agree with the OP. To some of you, it seems like this idea would make overpowered ships.... even more overpowered. But drones have MANY flaws(among them bugs), but the main one being is that they're destructable. It doesn't take a genious to figure out that smartbomb > drones, Webber > drones, etc. Drones may be affected again when/if an AOF weapon is introduced. So you whine, and say, what about the Damp/Drone combo? This forces you to think outside the box. Sensor Boosters, Remote Sensor Boosters, a different combination of drones [ECM? Neut? Web/t2 mediums?] All I see here is adding diversity. The EVE community can overcome anything, no matter how overpowered it seems (Moms for example?), with some things really proving NOT to be that overpowered. ___________________________________________ Humans take everything that is beautiful and sweet and turn it into something horrifying and ugly.
Neuromandis Novastorm Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.25 00:04:00 - [31] Heh Some people actually said that because Caldari can fit bcu's for missiles the Galloente should fit damage mods for drones? Nice one. How much cpu and grid does each drone use? Hoe many highslots do they use up? You're comparing apples to videotapes. Make the domi have 4 highslots, halve its cpu and grid (thats how much other people use for their guns) and that comparison could stand. ATM, getting 50% damage from three slots straight (withought giving the actual highslots for the guns themselves, or the lowslots for possible fitting) is, guess what, imbalanced. The drones have their damage bonus already tucked into them. The argument could stand if T2 drones had disadvantages instead of just plain better damage, and the droneboats had a 5% bonus just like eerybody else. On the othr hand, you could just leave them be. And the post about missiles being uber is bullcrap, sorry. There is a reason why people use turrets to pvp...
William Hamilton Caldari THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.05.25 00:16:00 - [32] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa 3) The damage modifier on any hybrid gun is lower than the modifier on the comparable missile. Have you played EVE? I heard it's fun!
Orion Eridanus Dark Nova Crisis	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:05:00 - [33] Ah, theres always someone who complains about caldari missiles time to do little comparison 1. Take your best t1 named heavy missile launcher add in nessecary skills and its best rate of fire with BCS's fitted is around 9 secs. Take your t1 named medium hybrid add in skills and its ROF is what 2-3 secs. So your getting 3-4 shots off for every one I get off, kinda makes up for the fact that guns miss. 2. Caldari have the choice of doing each damage type. Sure we can change our damage type but (using t1 heavies again) we have to wait the 9 secs for our mod to deactivate and then an additional 10 secs to reload the new missile in thats 19 secs your not getting hit by a missile where as on a hyrbrid it only takes you 13 secs to change your ammo for your range plus your doing 2 types of damage at the same time. 3. Missle always hit, yes and no, you can outrun or warp away from a missile but you cant out run a gun, and before you say well they can just fly out of the gun boats locking range they can do the same to the missile boat. 4.Using heavy missile again here, once we max out our damage boosting skills and fit BCS the most damage we could do is maybe 280 dmg per missile, we dont get wrecking hits or excellent hits, when we max our skills thats it, you at least have the chance of getting 300, 400, 500 dmg per shot. Thats all I have for now but I'll add more when I think of it.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Elite	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:27:00 - [34] Edited by: Blane Xero on 25/05/2007 01:30:01 Originally by: Orion Eridanus Ah, theres always someone who complains about caldari missiles time to do little comparison 1. Take your best t1 named heavy missile launcher add in nessecary skills and its best rate of fire with BCS's fitted is around 9 secs. Take your t1 named medium hybrid add in skills and its ROF is what 2-3 secs. So your getting 3-4 shots off for every one I get off, kinda makes up for the fact that guns miss. 2. Caldari have the choice of doing each damage type. Sure we can change our damage type but (using t1 heavies again) we have to wait the 9 secs for our mod to deactivate and then an additional 10 secs to reload the new missile in thats 19 secs your not getting hit by a missile where as on a hyrbrid it only takes you 13 secs to change your ammo for your range plus your doing 2 types of damage at the same time. 3. Missle always hit, yes and no, you can outrun or warp away from a missile but you cant out run a gun, and before you say well they can just fly out of the gun boats locking range they can do the same to the missile boat. 4.Using heavy missile again here, once we max out our damage boosting skills and fit BCS the most damage we could do is maybe 280 dmg per missile, we dont get wrecking hits or excellent hits, when we max our skills thats it, you at least have the chance of getting 300, 400, 500 dmg per shot. Thats all I have for now but I'll add more when I think of it. i have one more. 5. Missiles take speed and size into it like guns, so dont say different. oh yeah and whoever thought HAM's up needs their heads checked, i can only get about 30% more range with skills, and i have a whopping 24km! (cerberus, HAC IV, missile projection/bombardment IV) rage is about 10km, and with 5 lauded thats -35% to cap charge rate (i'm guessing thats not lowering but increasing charge time) making it useless in close range fights unless your fighting someone with really long range settups and has 0 chance of hitting you. javelin i am ok'ish with, not too faffed with the speed decrease the range/damage is nice with skills. ------------- my sig is teh dead the mods shall not have my sig, if they do i'll kill CCP's hamsters.
sartorii Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.25 02:19:00 - [35] Originally by: Skuld OdinsDottir drone damage mods aren't ingame. The drone rigs are for Drone SENTRIES only, so no effect on light, medium, heavy. yea right.. asif sentry drones need a SPEED rig... lol.. *"disconnect and self destruct one mullet at at time" [sic]*
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:34:00 - [36] Originally by: sartorii Originally by: Skuld OdinsDottir drone damage mods aren't ingame. The drone rigs are for Drone SENTRIES only, so no effect on light, medium, heavy. yea right.. asif sentry drones need a SPEED rig... lol.. No, I think he meant a damage rig is only currently in game for sentries, which is true. _________________ Burn.

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