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RaYmOnD
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Posted - 2004.01.09 21:06:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: FA are the strongest
just FIV have over 140 members and much over the half have level 3 BS, and are recruiting new members every day!!! If you have been in FIV in a little over af month, you vil have a BS.
You joking ? There's corps out there with 400+ members of whom 300 have a BS !
Yes, he is actually. All members except the new ones have 2 or more battleships.
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Lord ofRedemption
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Posted - 2004.01.09 21:29:00 -
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Quote: From experience, id put the regional alliances in this order
- FA
- CA
- SA
- NVA
- CFS
Ok off topic but that pic is a joke,1st off this was on chaos,While i was in a duel already,Then you used a passive targeter to web/jam ect on me,In TQ id love to see you try that again,Im sure you have a smart reply but keep it to your self.That stunt was Smart yes but not on chaos as i was already fighting 1on1.Im glad you now think you beat me,Look up venal in TQ and bring your self.Lets see what happens this time,Oh also if you only play on chaos ill meet u on there also. _____________
Retirement closing in .
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.01.09 21:52:00 -
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Quote: around 20 CA (not the weekend, no Rus, no m0o, no c0w etc) around 40 FA, 20 SA and 15 evol
Oh oh, you just admitted m0o and c0w are members of the Curse Alliance.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.01.09 22:00:00 -
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no he didnt u idiot...is Tyrell now going for the Bill O'Reilly "NOONE SPINS HERE CEPT ME" award?
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.01.09 22:59:00 -
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Quote: no he didnt u idiot...is Tyrell now going for the Bill O'Reilly "NOONE SPINS HERE CEPT ME" award?
Steve can't read.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.01.09 23:26:00 -
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hmz...ur right, i can't >.<
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.01.09 23:28:00 -
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speaking of which.. where did Bill O'Reilly go?
¼©¼ a history |

Main
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Posted - 2004.01.09 23:57:00 -
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It does seem that the top 3 names from everyone have been the same, only in a different order, Stain Alliance, Curse Alliance and Fountain Alliance. Main Everlasting Vendetta Veteran Member of the Stain Alliance |

Marcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2004.01.10 02:03:00 -
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yeah, but that was obvious from the start.
The big question is wether SA nd FA will band together against CA. The Ca might draw in FE or other alliance and the whole thing could start to get mixed up.
I've seen FA in Curse, fighting. And FA in Stain, flying with MASS pilots peacefully. Alos, i see a lot of FA and Evol together (of course). Now, when will we see their equivalents fighting together against them ? (FA+SA+Evol=CA+??+m0o).
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Maasu
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Posted - 2004.01.10 04:35:00 -
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That would sure be interesting. As far as i know the CA has recieved no outside help in their struggle so far. Do correct me if i am wrong as i'm not trying to spin anything.
Another alliance entering teh frey might twist things somewhat.
ATUK, The Forlorn Hope of Corps. |

CubePusher
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Posted - 2004.01.10 05:09:00 -
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Edited by: CubePusher on 10/01/2004 05:22:45 FA: they're rich, they've got PvP experience although it hasnt been tested for a while (and losing a few BS's on a beano in curse doesnt count imo) and they've got way more man power than any other alliance around. Curse was a perfect example of FA manpower, they sent a fleet double the size of CA's half way across the universe with almost no effort involved.
SA: Pretty wealthy and can sustain heavy losses, good PvPers with pretty good man power. When your in Stain you'll see lots of SA members everywhere.
NVA: Really dont know that much about them other than they've got a "intresting" history and always seem to be on the verge of collapse but never do, gotta admire their resilience.
CA: lol, obviously i cant be unbiased here but im gonna do the run down anyway. They say they're wealthy, they most probably are with all the arkanor lying around. On PvP.......they're not bad when or if they decide to fight, they like odds to be well within their favour before they even consider it, call it smart call it cowardly i call it boring. As for man power (and this isnt a flame) they're a joke, as Lallante said above "CA at best on a Saturday afternoon can field 60-70 BS". And thats including 3 corps that aren't included in their allience (or are, im losing track), on a average night in curse seeing more than 5 CA in one system is a very rare sight and if you do see it chances are 4 out of the 5 are docked and the last one is in a safe spot, they're a weekend alliance.
So to sum up my vote goes to FA.
And Lallante, seriously. The BS score card that you seem to be marking your kills on dont mean squat, this is the drill for an evol pilot that lost his ship:
1) member gets ganked 2) member asks where he can pick up a replacement 3) member gets his replacement (normaly within 5 mins) 4) production on the ship to replace the replacement begins (if there isnt already a replacement, which there usually is)
Wars aren't about counting body bags, they're about territory or better yet controling that territory. You the CA have claimed the curse region as your space but you do not control it, your running a kind of guerrilla warfare operation with hit and run tactics (which is more run than hit) in your own region.
/emote goes to get some sleep in anticipation of this massive CA fleet that will be appearing tommorow
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.01.10 05:13:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 10/01/2004 05:14:45 CubePusher you haven't been around Curse much have you? Guess Molle has you chasing our agent runners around empire still. Oh well it's ok i'm sure you'll be moved up shortly.
I'm sorry to say it and i do apologize if i offend you but that statement in my opinon gives the impression you are absaloutley CLUELESS or SPINNING.
Take your pick. Reverend Necrona |

Fairlane
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Posted - 2004.01.10 05:21:00 -
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1.m0o - not a alliance but the strongest there is  2.FA 3.CA
Wallhack... aimbot... You name it!!! RUKI VVERH ...MUSORA! |

CubePusher
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Posted - 2004.01.10 05:28:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 10/01/2004 05:14:45 CubePusher you haven't been around Curse much have you? Guess Molle has you chasing our agent runners around empire still. Oh well it's ok i'm sure you'll be moved up shortly.
I'm sorry to say it and i do apologize if i offend you but that statement in my opinon gives the impression you are absaloutley CLUELESS or SPINNING.
Take your pick.
lol, only time i've been in empire lately is when we've been looking for your corp. Where are you guys hiding these days? and why do you always dock and log if we see you?
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Maasu
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Posted - 2004.01.10 05:54:00 -
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Edited by: Maasu on 10/01/2004 05:55:54
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Quote: Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 10/01/2004 05:14:45 CubePusher you haven't been around Curse much have you? Guess Molle has you chasing our agent runners around empire still. Oh well it's ok i'm sure you'll be moved up shortly.
I'm sorry to say it and i do apologize if i offend you but that statement in my opinon gives the impression you are absaloutley CLUELESS or SPINNING.
Take your pick.
lol, only time i've been in empire lately is when we've been looking for your corp. Where are you guys hiding these days? and why do you always dock and log if we see you?
More proof to show that your clueless. Your own forces engaged some omega corp down in stain, where we've been a lot recently, why not ask the pilots of SA industrials and battleships that we have gankged latley?
Thanks for proving more so that your clueless. I like to know i am not wrong.
(Reverend btw - soz too many characters and too little sleep :/)
ATUK, The Forlorn Hope of Corps. |

CubePusher
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Posted - 2004.01.10 06:11:00 -
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Quote: More proof to show that your clueless. Your own forces engaged some omega corp down in stain, where we've been a lot recently, why not ask the pilots of SA industrials and battleships that we have gankged latley?
Thanks for proving more so that your clueless. I like to know i am not wrong.
(Reverend btw - soz too many characters and too little sleep :/)
oh im sorry, when did stain become empire space? oh wait it is'nt, guess you can stfu then.
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John Bishop
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Posted - 2004.01.10 06:21:00 -
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Don't know enough about Xetic, but they seem to lack in PvP skills, but certainly have some corps that know how to make isk.
Xetic Alliance i would like to point out that although we lack the number of pvp experianced players we work really well together. on the 19th, we where attacked during a mining operations by some stain forces, although surprised and ambushed we where able to mount a sizable fleet and reppel the invaders with equal losses to both sides.
so although we are not as powerfull as other alliance i dont think we are weak at all.
time will tell its own storry soon enough
_______________________________________________ sorry for the spelling and gramtic errors,,, im a redneck cowboy what did you expect anyways????
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Rolfiboy
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Posted - 2004.01.10 10:51:00 -
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Quote: Well lets see. Strength is military ability:
CA vs Evol + FA + SA over the last 3 days, fleet sizes have been
around 20 CA (not the weekend, no Rus, no m0o, no c0w etc) around 40 FA, 20 SA and 15 evol
and the score?
24 ish BS kills : 4 ish BS kills
Speaks for itself. CA owns FA in combat.
As for resources, atm CA have the arkanor, ok that may change but Stain are definatly poorer than CA. FA are probably richer.
As for numbers, CA at best on a Saturday afternoon can field 60-70 BS. I imagine Fountain can beat this on home terriatory.
So: CA wins on military strength (I personally commanded the forces vs Fountain and we never fought a battle where they had less BSs than us, and we never fought a battle where we have lost 1/2 what they did, and most it was 1/4 or less, 1 battle 7:1)
FA wins on resources and manpower probably.
But as CA showed vs CFS, manpower isnt ALL that important. YES FA can field a huge fleet on one night, but it wont kill anything and the next day it will lose 8 - 10 BS in smaller fights till eventually (as CA have showed over the last 3 days) what little is left is forced to limp home.
Any FA feel free to answer this, but make sure you know your facts: You came to Curse to hurt us and ended up getting severe burns and killing virtually nothing, deny?
Well thats is not the nummbers i have counted, and isnt very realistic, try again, when you can count! |

Jenh Kiami
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Posted - 2004.01.10 11:25:00 -
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I'm not quite up to speed on the entire galaxy's alliances and power, but I do know this:
Best at docking/logging away from a fight: NVA Best at patience and gate-camping to hold ground: FE Best at writing long-winded and ultimately pointless posts on EVE forum: Jade Constantine
And while I may be catching up on politics and power since the release, I do know that the GSL was the most awesome corp in the Beta test, despite constant nerfing and incessant bugs. May those guys rest in peace.
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"It's been said that its okay to talk to yourself, as long as you don't respond. I think the same applies to talking to your alts." - Antoine Kozar to Jenh Kiami
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Tansien
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Posted - 2004.01.10 11:25:00 -
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Rolfiboy, the numbers aren't 100% exact, but it's 'something' like that.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.01.10 16:05:00 -
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IM REPOSTING what i said before, as it seems conclusive and noone has answered it. If your not measuring strength on ability to inflict losses to an equal or greater force without taking them yourselves, what ARE you measuring it on?
Quote:
Well lets see. Strength is military ability:
CA vs Evol + FA + SA over the last 3 days, fleet sizes have been
around 20 CA (not the weekend, no Rus, no m0o, no c0w etc) around 40 FA, 20 SA and 15 evol
and the score?
24 ish BS kills : 4 ish BS kills
Speaks for itself. CA owns FA in combat.
As for resources, atm CA have the arkanor, ok that may change but Stain are definatly poorer than CA. FA are probably richer.
As for numbers, CA at best on a Saturday afternoon can field 60-70 BS. I imagine Fountain can beat this on home terriatory.
So: CA wins on military strength (I personally commanded the forces vs Fountain and we never fought a battle where they had less BSs than us, and we never fought a battle where we have lost 1/2 what they did, and most it was 1/4 or less, 1 battle 7:1)
FA wins on resources and manpower probably.
But as CA showed vs CFS, manpower isnt ALL that important. YES FA can field a huge fleet on one night, but it wont kill anything and the next day it will lose 8 - 10 BS in smaller fights till eventually (as CA have showed over the last 3 days) what little is left is forced to limp home.
Any FA feel free to answer this, but make sure you know your facts: You came to Curse to hurt us and ended up getting severe burns and killing virtually nothing, deny?
Note: The enemy losses include Evolution and stain as WELL as fountain. AFAIK Fa is just over half of them though.
Also: FA have gone home without killing more than a couple of our BSs. If that isnt proof we are stronger what is?
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.01.10 16:26:00 -
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Quote: I'm not quite up to speed on the entire galaxy's alliances and power, but I do know this:
Best at docking/logging away from a fight: NVA Best at patience and gate-camping to hold ground: FE Best at writing long-winded and ultimately pointless posts on EVE forum: Jade Constantine
And while I may be catching up on politics and power since the release, I do know that the GSL was the most awesome corp in the Beta test, despite constant nerfing and incessant bugs. May those guys rest in peace.
Best corpmember at makin up total crap: Jenh Kiami.
Congratz man your awesome 
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2004.01.10 16:39:00 -
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Quote: Also: FA have gone home without killing more than a couple of our BSs. If that isnt proof we are stronger what is?
Learn to control your own region. Winning a few battles here and there does not mean you control your own region. I won't deny the Fountain Alliance lost several ships, cause we did. But we only have ourselves to blame, not you.
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Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN?
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.01.10 17:48:00 -
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ColdFuzion - i was refering to your comment on Omega Corp not engaging Evolution, i referenced our engagements in stain to counter this.
Well done for pointing out that Stain is not empire though, your making progress. Reverend Necrona |

Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.01.10 18:36:00 -
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Quote: ColdFuzion - i was refering to your comment on Omega Corp not engaging Evolution, i referenced our engagements in stain to counter this.
Well done for pointing out that Stain is not empire though, your making progress.
Ooops - not Coldfuzion - meant CubePusher :(.
Reverend Necrona |

Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.01.11 16:16:00 -
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no flaming, please
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.01.13 13:17:00 -
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LOL i think this whole topic is a huge flame, everyone trying to counter each others arguments
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.01.13 13:17:00 -
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pip pip old chaps
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.01.13 16:34:00 -
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just to update you
still no.1 FA STAN
FACTA NON VERBA |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.01.13 17:26:00 -
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Well, in my book m0o has switched places with FA, along with a depreciation of FA as a whole due to their seemingly lack in organisation, making it as follows:
1. m0o 2. CA 3. FA 4. SA/Evol
Rest is unchanged or somewhat vague to me, except Xetic, which i still feel are underrated by most because they havent shown their strength yet. (They should be able to be real trouble to any alliance if they choose to). _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |
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