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RegMaster	Posted - 2007.05.25 19:42:00 - [31] Originally by: Incantare No you don't understand CCP won't introduce a skill queue because your life must be centered around the game, if it's not you don't belong here . lol@Incantare - I think you got a point there.
Mr Crow Legion Of Darkspace Requiem-Aeternam	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:05:00 - [32] Skill queue is an insanely bad idea. Adding a skill to make a skill queue is an even worse idea! (skills to effect the way skills work = bad; learning skills = worst thing to happen to eve) One of the main draws to eve is that when a skill says it's 30 minutes long, it's 30 minutes long. What would be the point in that system if you could just tag 2 or 3 (or more) 30 min skills together and go afk to watch a movie. Or have afew 3 month skills, keep your sub paid and stop playing for a year. A web-based skill changing program on the otherhand would be fantastic. Really annoyed me this morning when i knew i was going to lose 8 hours skill training because i couldn't wait for the servers to be sorted out. If there was a web-based system (i could use my mobile \o/) and of changed it once the servers came up, instead i'm cursing ccp for something that isn't really thier fault "**** happens" My Two Pence /cr0w
RegMaster	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:12:00 - [33] Originally by: Mr Crow Skill queue is an insanely bad idea. Adding a skill to make a skill queue is an even worse idea! (skills to effect the way skills work = bad; learning skills = worst thing to happen to eve) One of the main draws to eve is that when a skill says it's 30 minutes long, it's 30 minutes long. What would be the point in that system if you could just tag 2 or 3 (or more) 30 min skills together and go afk to watch a movie. Or have afew 3 month skills, keep your sub paid and stop playing for a year. A web-based skill changing program on the otherhand would be fantastic. Really annoyed me this morning when i knew i was going to lose 8 hours skill training because i couldn't wait for the servers to be sorted out. If there was a web-based system (i could use my mobile \o/) and of changed it once the servers came up, instead i'm cursing ccp for something that isn't really thier fault "**** happens" My Two Pence /cr0w Mr Crow, Yes seems that in general the web based skill manager is like by all. That would be enough to satisfy me. The skill queue - done correctly - I think is also a good idea. But if players only get one - let it be the web based skill manager.
Shinris	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:19:00 - [34] a skille quere of some kind could be nice, not something that would make you put x skills up. but maybe something that keeps it within a time line so its not misused by afk sp *****s. but it most be time for that system now
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:20:00 - [35] Originally by: RegMaster CYBER SKILL I'm skilled at the cyber, but it doesn't help in eve much. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Aversin Gallente Order of the Holy Crustulum	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:21:00 - [36] Originally by: RegMaster Yes, Soporo hit another good request idea - SKILL QUEUE FEATURE -. In fact, CCP EVE could introduce a new CYBER SKILL that when trained to lvl 5 would allow the activation of the SKILL QUEUE FEATURE. It seems like it is time ( 4 years into game ). It does not take long at all to log into the game, or perhaps you could play with eve minimized, or even leave it running. Also I can't believe i'm the first one to say this, go back to wow. Originally by: Razner Cerizo They will never quit. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
i take	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:25:00 - [37] to change the skills should NOT be a reason that you log in.. this could aswell be done automatically( not meaning you don't have a chose). it makes only one difference, its easyer and more pleasend for us that way. when we have to log in to change a skill on a time where we really rather NOT do it, we just get annoyid on ccp for forcing this lame kind of annoying element upon us. when we log in it should be because we wanna play mainly. but if i want a skill to be done or 3-4 skills from 0 to 3 till the next day its really annoying when i don't have the ingame time that i have to either find a way to get on 9-12 times split over those 24hours or progress it over alot of days.. this is not what the game value should be in, its just an annoing element.. Originally by: Mr Crow Skill queue is an insanely bad idea. Adding a skill to make a skill queue is an even worse idea! (skills to effect the way skills work = bad; learning skills = worst thing to happen to eve) One of the main draws to eve is that when a skill says it's 30 minutes long, it's 30 minutes long. What would be the point in that system if you could just tag 2 or 3 (or more) 30 min skills together and go afk to watch a movie. Or have afew 3 month skills, keep your sub paid and stop playing for a year. A web-based skill changing program on the otherhand would be fantastic. Really annoyed me this morning when i knew i was going to lose 8 hours skill training because i couldn't wait for the servers to be sorted out. If there was a web-based system (i could use my mobile \o/) and of changed it once the servers came up, instead i'm cursing ccp for something that isn't really thier fault "**** happens" My Two Pence /cr0w
Mr Crow Legion Of Darkspace Requiem-Aeternam	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:27:00 - [38] There is noway to do it correctly, it would void the way we train skills. A Web based system wouldn't change the amount of time between skillchanges, it would encourage more activity and possible more new players. A skillqueue would just be, "lets set skills for a month", see you soon. It would encourage afking characters. Afking characters isn't really multiplayer /cr0w
WhitePhantom Gallente Edenists	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:27:00 - [39] I hope they end this, "I will end my subscription for 30 days while this 35 day skill trains" crude. What other game allows for your character to get better, withouy you having to play and pay to get that improvement. Once they do this then I would support a way to change your skill, but I am sick of people wanting to change their skill at work, if your not going to play the game you shouldn't improve your character.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:29:00 - [40] Originally by: RegMaster Originally by: RaTTuS if the server is down i.e. DT the db is also down - the db is where you do everything so no db == no skill changes ... They really should not host the WHOLE game on a single logical DB. I use oracle and have several DB subsystems that handle discreate functions for my telecomm company, such as user account management, billing, online/offline order processing, real time switching ( DB that handles state machines for telephone and VOIP switches ), etc. If any one sub system fails, it does not effect the rest of the operation. And again, it is all about the whole system design. But please EVE CCP folks - it seems about time this feature was put in. If I remember correctly, all of EVE is programmed through Python; If EVE was programmed through Oracle, we'd have server meltdowns hourly, so no. There is nothing significantly wrong with EVE that would warrent something this huge.
Mr Crow Legion Of Darkspace Requiem-Aeternam	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:32:00 - [41] Originally by: Aversin Originally by: RegMaster Yes, Soporo hit another good request idea - SKILL QUEUE FEATURE -. In fact, CCP EVE could introduce a new CYBER SKILL that when trained to lvl 5 would allow the activation of the SKILL QUEUE FEATURE. It seems like it is time ( 4 years into game ). It does not take long at all to log into the game, or perhaps you could play with eve minimized, or even leave it running. Also I can't believe i'm the first one to say this, go back to wow. it's not that logging in takes a long time, it's the fact that we're eve addicts, i want to be able to change skills on a computer without a graphics card; ever had a system die on you? or be insanely unstable when running eve? a webbased skillchanger would give anyone who has / have computer problems the ability to change thier skill on a friends computer without having to download a 500mb game. just another reason for... oh and don't get me wrong, this is something i would like to see, but it is in no way a priority. /cr0w
Ethaet Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:39:00 - [42] Edited by: Ethaet on 25/05/2007 20:40:51 Edited by: Ethaet on 25/05/2007 20:39:18 Originally by: uNtOldPAIN So...what will you want next. Eve on Xbox360 and PS3 Shut up. Please go pod yourself. Any game without a mouse is about as fun as getting beaten with a tree branch. Yeah, this is for being away/having a system die. as for queuing skills, what about a skill that is a high rank like 5, and allows 2 or 3 queued skills per level? Originally by: Frug Originally by: RegMaster CYBER SKILL I'm skilled at the cyber, but it doesn't help in eve much. Really? ] Originally by: Phoenixhawk Patching.......... Oh wow look the servers didnt all shut down. Hi-Five another successful patch....Durrrwomp....Hey who turned out the lights, oh look there's light outside the wi
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:42:00 - [43] Edited by: Soporo on 25/05/2007 20:42:33 I would be content with a Queue that lets me add ONE skill behind the one I am currently training. Or even better, queue a couple of those annoying 3 or 5 hour skills.
Eralus	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:50:00 - [44] Originally by: Aversin It does not take long at all to log into the game, or perhaps you could play with eve minimized, or even leave it running. Also I can't believe i'm the first one to say this, go back to wow. But I would rather not have to wake up at 3 AM in the morning to change a skill. The whole point of the skill system is you don't have to glue yourself to your computer repeating endless tasks just to level-up. And it removed the advantage people get from being able to spend 20 hours in front of their computer over others who can't. Letting you queue up one skill 'fits' the intent of time-based skill training. Ho well my skills train should have nothing to do with my ability to log in at 3 AM when I have work at 8 AM. _____ Lifewire is a big, ugly, mean... carebear.
RegMaster	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:56:00 - [45] I agree Eralus. I wonder if CCP Eve folks are reading this? Oh and Aversin - I never played WOW but I bet you use to have a paying account.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.05.25 21:09:00 - [46] It's laready been said in the past that there won't be a skill queue, or a way to change skills without logging into the game fully. I remember at some point, a member of CCP saying that people should have to log into the game in order to advance their training, so a skill queue or way of switching from out of game won't be implemented. I'll see if i can dig a linky up when i'm not half drunk. >>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
Malcanis High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.25 21:10:00 - [47] Originally by: Soporo Or a skill queue. Just let me queue one skill. One. That's all I ask.
DK112	Posted - 2007.05.25 21:25:00 - [48] Good post RegMaster i agree completely, there should be a way to change skills without the game being installed on a certain computer, or even a skill queue however you spell that word.
Malcanis High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.25 21:37:00 - [49] Or even just have it automatically proceed to the next level of the same skill. That'd be fine. Not perfect but better than dealing with juggling damb 6-hour skills. I sleep for more than 6 hours!
RegMaster	Posted - 2007.05.25 21:49:00 - [50] Originally by: Malcanis Or even just have it automatically proceed to the next level of the same skill. That'd be fine. Not perfect but better than dealing with juggling damb 6-hour skills. I sleep for more than 6 hours! Kind of like a "train to max level" option... I would be satisfied with that.
Beeszz Gallente Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.25 21:56:00 - [51] I disagree. Part of the fun with the skills is switching training on different skills to make them finish during the time you normally play. Ok, you may lose an hour or so when something pops in between, but what are two hours on a couple of years training skills? Also CCP has stated before that they want people to log in to change skill. Log in = play..maybe you read an interesting ingame mail, get an idea, see some corpies online and continue to play.. Having a webinterface to change skill, means you aren't in the game that often, lose contact with your corp, lose interest in the game..and quit. Not something CCP wants to happen..
RegMaster	Posted - 2007.05.25 22:00:00 - [52] Originally by: Beeszz I disagree. Part of the fun with the skills is switching training on different skills to make them finish during the time you normally play. Ok, you may lose an hour or so when something pops in between, but what are two hours on a couple of years training skills? Also CCP has stated before that they want people to log in to change skill. Log in = play..maybe you read an interesting ingame mail, get an idea, see some corpies online and continue to play.. Having a webinterface to change skill, means you aren't in the game that often, lose contact with your corp, lose interest in the game..and quit. Not something CCP wants to happen.. Beeszz, I hear what you are saying, but for example, I am going to be travelling a lot next month. A way to manage my skills via web would let me "stay IN the game and active" otherwise, I would be missing out of many DAYS of skill training while I travel around the country.
Aversin Gallente Order of the Holy Crustulum	Posted - 2007.05.25 23:48:00 - [53] Originally by: Eralus Originally by: Aversin It does not take long at all to log into the game, or perhaps you could play with eve minimized, or even leave it running. Also I can't believe i'm the first one to say this, go back to wow. But I would rather not have to wake up at 3 AM in the morning to change a skill. The whole point of the skill system is you don't have to glue yourself to your computer repeating endless tasks just to level-up. And it removed the advantage people get from being able to spend 20 hours in front of their computer over others who can't. Letting you queue up one skill 'fits' the intent of time-based skill training. Ho well my skills train should have nothing to do with my ability to log in at 3 AM when I have work at 8 AM. Nothing forces you to log in at 3 am, you have the ability to plan ahead, set a longer skill until next time you will be able to play, then finish up the 36 minute long skill, or the 2 hour long skill. Or as if this is completely taboo, LET your skill finish at 3am. Spend the 45 seconds in the morning while drinking your coffee before work and then change your skill. 4 hours of skill training will not dramatically change the way you play the game, especially if you are not an eve freak, which your argument seems to imply. Originally by: Razner Cerizo They will never quit. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
RegMaster	Posted - 2007.05.26 01:31:00 - [54] Seems more posters want than do not.
Pyro Ninja	Posted - 2007.05.26 01:50:00 - [55] Edited by: Pyro Ninja on 26/05/2007 01:50:32 CCP has said so many time they will not make an out of game log in for management of skills.. the most they are willing to do is train more than one skill at a time, even thats a big if.
Jessamine Freedom United	Posted - 2007.05.26 02:35:00 - [56] Originally by: RegMaster Seems more posters want than do not. Do Not Want! Seriously, log in or set a longer skill. Use EVEMon to plan, but seriously don't whine... Quote: Don't call me a griefer just becase you fly a space pinata and I choose to be the one to swing the stick
cal venus	Posted - 2007.05.26 04:56:00 - [57] A web browser-based login for skill management actually makes a lot of sense to me. The skill queue not so much, since that could lead to unfortunate cheatage...
Loki Farseer	Posted - 2007.05.26 07:06:00 - [58] A Short Explanation to EVEite's and CCP about the other 95% of the player base - If you have a real life and job and little time skip to the end... otherwise continue reading: .... Most of us have this thing called work and a real life. Work does not allow me to play games while working (I know the nerve)... I need to work to pay for this game since I have a Job and a Real-Life and can't spend hours on end getting iskies to buy a GTC... This also curtails my ability to march to the EVE SKILL TIMER!!! and diligently flip skills around... CCP... stop being difficult, and Eve-Centric (Translation: All Worship the almighty EVE and make it your 24-7 Fix for everything)... make the game a lil more user friendly, or someone else will, and the reason you exist.. "Us" (Your Customers) will take our money and play there where we are not treated as an after-thought. Short Translation of the above: Give us a web interface... I have better things to do then even slighly attempt to mold my life to a virtual world. Loki Farseer
Rylet VanDorn Pastafarians Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2007.05.26 07:22:00 - [59] IMHO there should be a skill queue, allowing you to set a skill plan to train for the next 20 days. That way, those working on short skills can do so without worry of missing a few hours or forgetting to switch out before going to bed... AND... it prevents people from just setting a queue and letting it run while the account is cancelled. You could even make it so the queue only continues while the account is active.
Moraguth Amarr Rangers	Posted - 2007.05.26 08:17:00 - [60] so I think this topic is up to 4 times a week now. sigh good game

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