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Night
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:18:00 -
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Hello and thank you for taking the time to read this post.
Im am the CEO of Colossus Technologies, one of the founding corporations of the XETIC alliance. I would like to bring to your attention a situation that is happening in "Catch" region.
XETIC has a faithful NAP with our close neighbours Stain and Curse, both have upheld the NAP to the greatest of their abilities and we have had little or no ship kills from either party. Firstly, Thank you both for being so honorable.
The increasing number of Evolution players in Catch is starting to interupt our normal hauling routes. These new "pirates" and I use the term strongly, are attacking any pilots entering the stain, curse and immensea regions. They mainly pray on industrial ships and always pod the players flying them.
They have become a pest, vermin if you will. They have no business being in this region of space and I urge Evolution to reconsider their actions. We will not stand idly by and watch our industrial ships be shot down by cowards anymore.
XETIC is a peacefull alliance, Curse and Stain are good friends in our eyes, we have never had a problem with either party. Call Curse pirates all you wish.. but if you must call anyone you should all be calling Evolution...
They are the universes "real" pirates, spineless cowards who attack industrial ships and flee when confronted by Curses mighty fleet.
All players beware, Evolution are in the Catch region and are deadly.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:22:00 -
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ROFL, HOMO, DECLARE HIM TO BE AN 'ALT' WITHIN 5 MINUTES OR I'LL BE DISAPOINTED.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:24:00 -
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"WTFOMGLOL PLEASE STOP BUMMING THE CA".
There homo you don't eve have to bother.
[/Sarcasm]
I'm not even going to waste my time to explain to Evolution what they wil clearly refute and troll about in here.
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:24:00 -
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Since the day you activly hunted down one of our ships, afk in space, and killed it, we changed our stance for xetic to "nah, dont worry about them" to, "kill them when you see them".
Live with the consequences.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:25:00 -
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Since the day you activly hunted down one of our ships, afk in space, and killed it, we changed our stance for xetic to "nah, dont worry about them" to, "kill them when you see them".
Live with the consequences.
That's news to... everyone?
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:27:00 -
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SirMolle, what happend to:
'We don't have to explain ourselves to anyone'
'We don't have NAPs'
or are not man enough to wear the jackboots of a real PC pirate?
Hypocrit.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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JoKane
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: JoKane on 09/01/2004 00:35:35
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Since the day you activly hunted down one of our ships, afk in space, and killed it, we changed our stance for xetic to "nah, dont worry about them" to, "kill them when you see them".
Live with the consequences.
Xetic killing a afk evol pilot? Come on, do you really think someone is going to believe that. Think of something else, give us proofs or stfu.
EDIT: And what is evol doing afk in space under a war, i tought you all was 133t pvp pilots.
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:40:00 -
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Hello and thank you for taking the time to read this post.
Im am the CEO of Colossus Technologies, one of the founding corporations of the XETIC alliance. I would like to bring to your attention a situation that is happening in "Catch" region.
XETIC has a faithful NAP with our close neighbours Stain and Curse, both have upheld the NAP to the greatest of their abilities and we have had little or no ship kills from either party. Firstly, Thank you both for being so honorable.
The increasing number of Evolution players in Catch is starting to interupt our normal hauling routes. These new "pirates" and I use the term strongly, are attacking any pilots entering the stain, curse and immensea regions. They mainly pray on industrial ships and always pod the players flying them.
They have become a pest, vermin if you will. They have no business being in this region of space and I urge Evolution to reconsider their actions. We will not stand idly by and watch our industrial ships be shot down by cowards anymore.
XETIC is a peacefull alliance, Curse and Stain are good friends in our eyes, we have never had a problem with either party. Call Curse pirates all you wish.. but if you must call anyone you should all be calling Evolution...
They are the universes "real" pirates, spineless cowards who attack industrial ships and flee when confronted by Curses mighty fleet.
All players beware, Evolution are in the Catch region and are deadly.
Yes you've stated what I have known for a long time that Evolution are nothing more than pirates. Atleast we have the decency to admit it 
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:40:00 -
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I didn't realize how many fans Homo Erectus has.
There's something missing from your impressions though: wit.
As for XETIC, it has been explained for a very long time how warzones function regarding unidentified entrants. Anything unidentified or unexpected are considered hostile and will be destroyed. This is not barbarism, this is not piracy, this is simply common sense.
We are not responsible for your failure to realize this.
Our first duty is to ensure the success of our operation and the wellbeing of our people and our allies.
Any self respecting organization would have that as their first duty as well. However, XETIC seems to not care enough to educate their people of how to safely operate amidst a war. It is beyond foolish to parade into a warzone without notifying those who control the space you are going into.
You say you have a NAP with CA and Stain. I think that's cool. But they don't own the space you went into and died in. We do. You do not have NAPS with us, you did not inform us of your passing. You died.
That was then.
Now due to your failure to learn and adapt to the rules of the battlefield, you become wroth with us and have on one occasion, destroyed an industrial ship. What this does is makes it untenable for us to allow you to pass even if you ask us beforehand. Some of us might allow you to go unmolested, some might say "no". All in all the general idea is that you are no longer safe in our prescence.
Even with this situation, you can still achieve ZERO shipping losses to us by simply asking if you can pass. We will tell you "no", and you can then decide whether you want to take our advice or die. In fact, to be completely safe, just stay away from us, period.
As it is, XETIC has not warranted any hunt on our part. But calling us names is a move towards annoying us. Do you want to succeed in annoying us?
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:42:00 -
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Edited by: Rebellion on 09/01/2004 00:43:08
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SirMolle, what happend to:
'We don't have to explain ourselves to anyone'
'We don't have NAPs'
or are not man enough to wear the jackboots of a real PC pirate?
Hypocrit.
Skillz, normal understanding of the language would have "We don't have to explain ourselves to anyone" not mean that we would'nt if we wanted to.
They say anger clouds simple minds easily.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:46:00 -
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Yes you've stated what I have known for a long time that Evolution are nothing more than pirates. Atleast we have the decency to admit it
You've known we were pirates for a long time? I guess we can use that to determine how long you've been clueless.
If we wanted to be pirates (which we don't) you'd be a carebear by comparison. Honest truth, take it or leave it.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:46:00 -
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1 word at evol: lol
they were in a warzone from the start between SA and CA, we haven`t killed any XETIC in a camp or during hunting raids so how can u claim "unexpected" or unidentified" now that u are there? guess u don`t even bother to see who enters the system then...
if u don`t want them near u, just say to them that they will be shot on sight cause of what u`ve said it`s bull**** 
and u have mentioned piracy, can we call u pirates now? and SA for harboring pirates?
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Absurd
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:48:00 -
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Any self respecting organization would have that as their first duty as well. However, XETIC seems to not care enough to educate their people of how to safely operate amidst a war. It is beyond foolish to parade into a warzone without notifying those who control the space you are going into.
Tell us again how your pilot was afk in a 0.0 and a war zone
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:48:00 -
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No, what it does mean is:
Evolution came to Curse after a scum-deal, to eject Omega corp. failed
Evolution go to Curse to fight CA. failed
Evolution brings in it's n00blar FA allies to fight the CA. failed
Evolution gets cold feet and desperately tries to save it's reputation and super carebears and not pirates. successful
Now you can go and devolve.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:56:00 -
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Quote:
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Any self respecting organization would have that as their first duty as well. However, XETIC seems to not care enough to educate their people of how to safely operate amidst a war. It is beyond foolish to parade into a warzone without notifying those who control the space you are going into.
Tell us again how your pilot was afk in a 0.0 and a war zone
I'd tell you how Xetic professed they were neutral. We give people the benefit of the doubt. The supposedly neutrals convinced themselves that they had to kill an indy of ours, and they did. Now we won't give them the benefit of the doubt.
It's nice how people think they post something witty when they just end up getting caught with their clues nowhere to be found.
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JoKane
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:58:00 -
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As for XETIC, it has been explained for a very long time how warzones function regarding unidentified entrants. Anything unidentified or unexpected are considered hostile and will be destroyed. This is not barbarism, this is not piracy, this is simply common sense.
Common sense, yea sure. That is just a lame excuse for killing peaceful traders.
Evol pilot 1: Urgh, me is hungry.
Evol pilot 2: Look there is a pilot from the peaceful and friendly Xetic alliance in a mighty and fearful industrial ship.
Evol pilot 3: Lets kill him!
Evol pilot 1: Yea lets kill to prove that we are 1337 and uber.
Evol pilot 2: Wiie, we got him. I bet SirMolle is going to be really proud over his little muppets now.
Evol pilot 3: Yes we are the r00xors. Want a cookie?
Evol pilot 1: No my mom tells me that cookies is bad for my teeths.
Evol pilot 2: My mom tells me that i have to go to bed now.
And so all the mighty evol pilots logs off and feel really proud cuz they killed the very mighty inustrial ship.
Serious, there is no need and no excuses for killing and podding pilots from the xetic alliance. You could have asked them to leave. Evol was the one that came and started all this mess, not they.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:59:00 -
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lol
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2004.01.09 01:00:00 -
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No, what it does mean is:
Evolution came to Curse after a scum-deal, to eject Omega corp. failed
Evolution go to Curse to fight CA. failed
Evolution brings in it's n00blar FA allies to fight the CA. failed
Evolution gets cold feet and desperately tries to save it's reputation and super carebears and not pirates. successful
Now you can go and devolve.
Skillz meddles in events he doesn't know about to look important failed
Your pathological attraction to us is making you behave stupidly.
You should join CA too.
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Revolution
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Posted - 2004.01.09 01:08:00 -
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the "skillz" bible
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.09 01:10:00 -
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ROFL, Evolution. My crayolas crayon and crayon totally owned you.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.01.09 01:14:00 -
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Fans of Homo? No we just know what to expect.
Lacking witt? Like your 6 month 'statements' of "Ragnar sucks and needs a lawyer".
Please your the largest bunch of hypocrits in this game. Die etc.
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JoKane
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Posted - 2004.01.09 01:15:00 -
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What CA is doing with Evol atm.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.01.09 01:17:00 -
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....... nahh, I can't even be bothered.
Evolution kill things. CA kill things. SA kill things. XETIC kill things - they've tried to beat up on some of our traffic before now.
If you enjoy playing the game for its PvP aspect and killing each other, just shut up and get on with it. If you don't, stay out of 0.0 space.
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Posted - 2004.01.09 01:18:00 -
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There so gonna come back with This
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2004.01.09 01:25:00 -
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Why don't you like us Tehel? :(
Is it just because we just destroyed 4 of you a few minutes ago?
They say feelings of frustration give rise to hostility.
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Korath
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Posted - 2004.01.09 01:37:00 -
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Edited by: Korath on 09/01/2004 01:39:51
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There so gonna come back with This
Lets try to keep this civil here shall we, at least the Omega Corp guys. We don't need to be posting things like this.
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The Monk
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Posted - 2004.01.09 02:08:00 -
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Quote:
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No, what it does mean is:
Evolution came to Curse after a scum-deal, to eject Omega corp. failed
Evolution go to Curse to fight CA. failed
Evolution brings in it's n00blar FA allies to fight the CA. failed
Evolution gets cold feet and desperately tries to save it's reputation and super carebears and not pirates. successful
Now you can go and devolve.
Skillz meddles in events he doesn't know about to look important failed
Your pathological attraction to us is making you behave stupidly.
You should join CA too.
Rebellion has a brain.failed
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.09 02:13:00 -
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There was much discussion of it in this thread
Here
Xetic failed to clearly state their stance. Their pilots continued cries of "We have a NAP!" as they are getting podded leads me to believe Xetic leadership does a poor job of informing it's members.
You actively hunted one of our ships without considering the ramifacations. You now have to deal with the situation.
Lalente (sic) couldn't wait to thank us for ticking you guys off. You state you will not be drawn into a war. Wonder why she so happy?
If anyone should perhaps reconsider their stance it would be someone who wants to maintain their neutrality.
Since the beginning of the CA thing, Evol pilots let all xetic ships pass if at all possible. Yes, we undoubtedly locked and scrambeled many, while identification took place. Yes, we quite possibly destroyed some who were "derilict" or jumped to a gate with 25 of us in system without so much as a "hey guys, coming thru".
As a footnote. Your pilots language and behavior would shame Homo on his best days, and makes CA look like boyscouts in the smacktalk department.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.01.09 02:35:00 -
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Edited by: Korath on 09/01/2004 01:39:51
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There so gonna come back with This
Lets try to keep this civil here shall we, at least the Omega Corp guys. We don't need to be posting things like this.
Never heard of Simply Red Korath have u ? :)
It's all in good humour i'm sure it was not meant to be offensive.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.01.09 02:36:00 -
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Why don't you like us Tehel? :(
Is it just because we just destroyed 4 of you a few minutes ago?
They say feelings of frustration give rise to hostility.
Yep - i adored those blackbirds.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2004.01.09 02:37:00 -
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Not our fault you don't bly bships.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2004.01.09 02:40:00 -
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Rebellion has a brain.failed
Using my brains on you would be overkill.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.01.09 02:55:00 -
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Not our fault you don't bly bships.
You weren't actually at the fight, were you?
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2004.01.09 03:03:00 -
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Nope, I had to deal with idiots.
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Isis DarkLight
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Posted - 2004.01.09 05:10:00 -
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Rebellion has a brain.failed
Monk!! what are you doing here! Empire space is ->>> That way! Run little piggy run!
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Isis DarkLight
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Posted - 2004.01.09 05:12:00 -
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You weren't actually at the fight, were you?
Where you? oo.. nm you logged out when you saw us jumping in.
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.09 06:09:00 -
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Edited by: Primer Xenius on 09/01/2004 06:12:12
I was going to quote Molle/Strike but this has more content.
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Xetic failed to clearly state their stance. Their pilots continued cries of "We have a NAP!" as they are getting podded leads me to believe Xetic leadership does a poor job of informing it's members.
* We never claimed to have a NAP with Evol officially.
* I initially request one but was rudely refused after evol shoot down our first few indies.
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You actively hunted one of our ships without considering the ramifacations. You now have to deal with the situation.
* This came after we had lost 10-20 loaded industrials to Evolution. I'm trying to understand how you expect to shoot on peoples ships and be suprised when they shot back.
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Lalente (sic) couldn't wait to thank us for ticking you guys off. You state you will not be drawn into a war. Wonder why she so happy?
* It is in the CA and SAs interest to get us on one side, so I'm not suprised if your claim is true. Fact is CA have not been shooting and your closely alligned with SA. You sit with SA fleets and while they don't shoot, you do. I'm even willing to stated that I believe some form of SA membership is (or at least was) awaiting you. Bad rocks down there though as you probably know now.
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Since the beginning of the CA thing, Evol pilots let all xetic ships pass if at all possible. Yes, we undoubtedly locked and scrambeled many, while identification took place. Yes, we quite possibly destroyed some who were "derilict" or jumped to a gate with 25 of us in system without so much as a "hey guys, coming thru".
All an accident huh
I'm not going to make any claims here of what is going to happen only to say that we are being wronged here and have been trying very hard to solve this peacefully and diplomatically. We are mainly traders and our power is in our industry and economics. It is at least for us, very important to illustrate to the rest of the honest corporations out there that we are not arrogant warmongers and will not go to war lightly.
If you are truly honest in regards to your claim that you don't intend to target our ships (above accident paragraph), then we are willing to discussion a possible solution. Perhaps better procedures in passing through Catch.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2004.01.09 06:48:00 -
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Stay away from us.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.01.09 06:49:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 09/01/2004 06:50:54
i mean who cares if XETIC killed a "afk" EVOL dude? and to say "he was afk" is just STUPID!! EVOL has killed a lot of XETIC Indy's so i belive it was maade to compesate their loses... and btw, He deserves to die, AFK in a warzone, real 1337 there!!
If i had been in an alliance and seen my members lose indy's everyday to some1 that im not at war with i would get ****ed and attacked them.... Seems to me that EVOL have ****ed XETIC!!!
"We brake for nobody"
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.09 06:49:00 -
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If you are truly honest in regards to your claim that you don't intend to target our ships (above accident paragraph), then we are willing to discussion a possible solution. Perhaps better procedures in passing through Catch.
I never made any such statement that we do not intend to target xetic ships. I said in the past we have tried not to, untill you actively hunted us. Diplomatic stuff is not my department, if you want to discuss things like that you know who to talk to.
As for your counterpoints. You say u never had a nap with Evol. I agree. However, why do your pilots keep saying you do?
10-20 is an exaggeration. Before last week any evol kills on xetic were accidental, and if you believe it or not is irrelevant.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.09 06:52:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 09/01/2004 06:50:54
i mean who cares if XETIC killed a "afk" EVOL dude? and to say "he was afk" is just STUPID!! EVOL has killed a lot of XETIC Indy's so i belive it was maade to compesate their loses... and btw, He deserves to die, AFK in a warzone, real 1337 there!!
If i had been in an alliance and seen my members lose indy's everyday to some1 that im not at war with i would get ****ed and attacked them.... Seems to me that EVOL have ****ed XETIC!!!
Give me a second while I pretend your opinion matters..........
Ok thanks.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.01.09 07:00:00 -
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Give me a second while I pretend your opinion matters..........
Ok thanks.
see how much ur comment means to me
"We brake for nobody"
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.09 08:15:00 -
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I think there is nothing else to be said after the above post. it all makes perfect sense now
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Sundri Elaption
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Posted - 2004.01.09 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: Sundri Elaption on 09/01/2004 11:44:11
Also that i also wanted 2 node is the following;
To become with a nap with Evol that means not shoot on XETIC is by breaking the NAP with CA.
(Quote of Evolution member: "Break the NAP with CA")
And i think also actively ingage CA but that i'm not sure off what they pricesly were amplying 2 say with that, i think i do, but clearly would want a quote out of one of the Evolution members that say "also attack CA".
As we see it, Evolution has shot down serveral Industrials (more than 3 ships) of XETIC alliance Immensia Federation, a regonized NAP with SA and CC both "war partners" against CA.
CA that we also have a NAP with.
Occordine of Evolution these were incidents.
Something i don't understand mayB i'm stupid, but i'm willing 2 admit i'm than, Evolution is seen as one of the best PVP corperations in EVE i'm saying: "seen" not are. If they are so good @ pvp, why can they not avoid so called incidents, and i can say there were more of 3 of suchs kind of incidents.
I know that EVOL is EVOL, they negotiate on there terms and are mayB also a bit insane.
Have i got the discription right!?
In the beginning Evolution when we first tried 2 come 2 solve the situation with Evolution when 1-3 Industrial ships were shut down by Evolution, was that we had 2 stay away from the battleground Catch Curse Stain, Catch a region we can't avoid going through, because we have 2 travel through 2 get 2 Immensia. Breaking the NAP with CA something we neighter can do.
So what remained was that Evol terms 2 not shoot on XETIC were not mett, u can question yourself also, why should Evolution been keep on shooting on XETIC. We did kill one confirmed kill of Evolutions indy i repeat 1 and i expected more from evolution saying a Indy in 0.0 space was afk, after evolution is seen as one of the topline pvp corperations in EVE. But this doesn't comprehands the loss that XETIC has had by Evolution, more than 3 confirmed XETIC industrial ships i think 3-8 indy's we have lost so far 2 Evolution.
XETIC an alliance that wants 2 stay neutral.
XETIC will stay neutral in the conflict between CA and SA they are considered both our friends regardless of Evolution.
CC we see also neutral in there war against CA.
As for Evolution;
What Night is amplying is that we will not be standing much longer on the sight line, if Evolution wants 2 create another enemy, they know what 2 do, we have now put the last turn 2 Evolution.
The following is i think of effect:
If u want another enemy u know what 2 do.
And: If u decide 2 make another enemy keep in mind who started the conflict and who wanted 2 avoid a conflict.
My best regards,
Sundri Elaption
Hegemonic-Core
Member of the XETIC alliance
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.09 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: Primer Xenius on 09/01/2004 13:13:05
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I said in the past we have tried not to, untill you actively hunted us.
We lost many indies to you before you lost one to some ****ed off pilots. Don't insult our intelligence by trying a justification.
I don't know why you even bother trying to justify it. Everyone, including yourselves know your a bunch of arrogant, egotistical self proclaimed elitists. You don't need to lower yourself with such desperately bogus explanations.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Sundri Elaption
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Posted - 2004.01.09 13:01:00 -
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Edited by: Sundri Elaption on 09/01/2004 13:19:36
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Edited by: Primer Xenius on 09/01/2004 12:30:11
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I said in the past we have tried not to, untill you actively hunted us.
We lost many indies to you before you lost one to some ****ed off pilots. Don't insult our intelligence by trying a justification.
I don't know why you even bother trying to justify it. Everyone, including yourselves know your a bunch of arrogant, egotistical self proclaimed elitists. You don't need lower yourself with such desperately bogus explanations.
Hey Sheepy Pixie :P Very Constructive m8 :)
But i have 2 agree
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.09 13:16:00 -
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Hey Sheepy Pixie :P Very Constructive m8 :)
Cheers. I need a pitch fork to sift through all this **** 
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.01.09 13:28:00 -
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[XETIC an alliance that wants 2 stay neutral.
Well you can't. Tough.
Most of those who are fighting the CA, will shoot on sight anyone who has a NAP with CA. I know that from personal experience. So pick your side, or else get out of the war zone, or else stop complaining when you get caught in the crossfire.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.01.09 13:42:00 -
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"We brake for nobody"
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.01.09 13:56:00 -
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Trolling, flaming = lock.
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