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Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.27 15:38:00 - [1] Originally by: Sentinel Eeex For the life of me, I can't figure out how you all managed to conclude it was "ISD Goon" that (allegedly) bumped that dread? In few more pages, story will be distorted so much, it will be whoever_is_the_goon_leader_now, who bumped that dread. On page 135, it will probably be common knowledge that CYVOK himself was actually ISD reported who (allegedly) bumped the dread, as a revenge to BoB... No predictions for page 170, though On page 200 remedial will have actually gone over to the guy's house and punched him in the face and unplugged his computer
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.27 16:29:00 - [2] Originally by: Andrue All these arguments for this huge conspiracy forget about one unavoidable problem: CCP Employees care more about their jobs than the in-game shenanigans you're accusing them of. Now this is just patently untrue. T20? That rattlesnake GM?
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.27 17:13:00 - [3] Originally by: Halca They posted with legitimate accounts onto a forum they are subscribed to. They didn't spam the service with packets in order to take it offline. It does sound more evil though and adds a little spice to your otherwise inane post that is completely off topic. Congrats. No man we're totally hackers, like, late 80's style hackers. We have various colored boxes and mohawks and when we're not using our Fushcia boxes to phreak $outhwe$tern Bell or phreaking the norms then we're spending all our time trying to destroy America by making Time's square start flashing "AVAST YE LANDLUBBERS, BANK OF AMERICA IS ABOUT TO GO BELLY UP" or corrupting the youth of today with our rocking and rolling and dungeons and dragons satan worship
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.27 17:38:00 - [4] Originally by: Avon Well, as I don't use MSN, and have no CCP MSN contacts, I would say that as an alliance-wide generalisation it is quite inaccurate. So since you, personally, have not had a chummy, casual relationship with the developers of this game and have not abused those contacts to circumvent the systems in place to get assistance makes everything just hunkie dorie then. No one is calling you, personally, a cheater. A fair number of us are probably calling you dumb, but not a cheater. Your alliance, on the other hand, is more crooked than a Kennedy campaign
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.27 17:48:00 - [5] Originally by: Shivalla omg, this might be the conclusion we were looking for. Tho the part 9 wont be happening according to the thread, Goons wont leave until they have ruined the game. That has been said many times already, SomethingAwful is a community which we all know more or less as being a community dedicated to do such acts of deprived griefing. I wont bother myself on it anymore, since Ill just go and pop their ships until they dont have anymore players who will be playing. Or if things blow up of proportions, I hope CCP will intervene and do something to stop the SA community¦s attempt on ruining their awesome product. ¦just my 10 cents. I don't even have to burn you I can just quote your posts
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.27 18:09:00 - [6] Originally by: Serpensis In the previous LV-Goonswarm war, a GM jumped in to a certain system "to look at a bugged POS", and all of a sudden all LV POS`es went off-line. Petitioned it of course, but much good that did us, accused of paranoia by the enemy. Perhaps a different set of eyes should look into it again, to see if the same GM/Dev was involved, even though the fight for that system is long lost. Another statement made my CCP in the wake of the t20 scandal, was that no employees had characters in any corps/alliances, which obviously just isnt true. CCP is taking sides in certain wars it seems. Actually, sov got bugged in the system, then the GM came in and fixed it, and then you're old alliance leaders decided to offline and online everything in the system, thats why everything went bonkers. At the same time, there was the issue where when we sieged 1v- and the towers went right back into reinforced after they came out. It's really hard to draw the line between terrible coding and bugs and corrupt GMs and Devs
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.27 18:11:00 - [7] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Halca Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 27/05/2007 18:03:09 Originally by: Halca Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Halca Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Phocas Lebournes Oh dear get a clue. Posting threads on a forum is for sure no DDos attack you ****. A distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack is one in which a multitude of systems (in this case posters on a forum) flood a single target (eve-o forum), thereby causing denial of service for users of the targeted system (eve-o forum). The flood of incoming messages to the target system (eve-o forum) essentially forces it to shut down, thereby denying service to the system to legitimate users. GoonSwarm is guilty of performing a DDoS, especially since it was coordinated. You have no evidence to prove that ISD moderation team took down the forums to stop the inundation of threads to give Arkanon time to post his thread and stop it. There is no denying it was spam but people calling it a DDoS are at best simple and at worse disingenuous shills. You mean as disingenuous as the lastest goon replies? And oh, goons calling for proof is hillarious, you should have done that with the OP issue in the first place. First off I'm not a goon. I've been through this with better people than some random bob-alt so unless you fancy posting with your main you can leave that right there. Now, you may continue with your obvious distraction about big bad things like DDoS after you've been proven wrong and or willfully ignorant. It's pretty obvious you haven't proven anything to be wrong and you know that just fine. It's kinda sad you suddenly have the urge to cry about alts when things come up you would rather not answer. Hard isn't it. Answer what you ridiculous little troll? Your replies get worse by the minute, fail. Getting in on this pyramid while I can
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.27 19:37:00 - [8] Originally by: Eldo Davip Originally by: FireFoxx80 Originally by: Verone Originally by: Eldo Davip Originally by: Verone \o/ Page 126 126 <3 Right about now, I'm so glad I don't have your job I hear if it gets to 150, we all get a T2 Ship; 200 we get a T2 BPO; and 500 is Titan's for all! and what do us mods get? headaches
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.27 20:07:00 - [9] Edited by: Alias11 on 27/05/2007 20:11:45 Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Prall Grosserbauch Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Prall Grosserbauch Originally by: Kerfira Wow, so you waited a whole 4 hours and 2 minutes for CCP to answer your petition before storming E-O??? No we waited until the first polite message asking for clarification was summarily deleted on Eve-0. You should have waited for a petition answer. My MSN client was acting up Ah yes, when all fails troll. Go goons. You yourself said that petitions of a great magnitude tend to be answered in short order, minutes even. Originally by: DB Preacher Well that was 129 pages of the biggest pile of rubbish I think these forums have seen. The goonies must be really bored but then I guess when we are stripping their stations back one by one, making good on our statement that the goons would not be allowed to claim 0.0 ever again, they have to do something to keep the game interesting. I'm sure this drama will now destroy bob, much like the last pointless bunch of crap did... oh no wait, it just gave us our greatest ingame war. Can't wait to see what this will give us, hehe. dbp oh man now that you're here all the somewhat reasonable defenses of blacklight c an be cast aside in favor of some sub-par trolls
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.27 21:23:00 - [10] Edited by: Alias11 on 27/05/2007 21:22:30 Originally by: Verone words go here My point isn't that those things are somehow the same, but the EULA is worded so poorly and makes no distinction between them. It's a poorly written piece of garbage. Nowhere in there does it say that "Piracy, Scamming, Corp theft, etc. are exempt from this rule". your point is watertight, the EULA isn't. The proper channels were used, and ignored, we did what we had to do to get this issue the attention it deserved when standard methods fell through Originally by: Kerfira Sorry to tell you, but this actually IS CCP's game. They can do whatever they like without telling you.... You should be happy first of all that they sometime do, and secondly even more happy that they're fixing bugs affecting one of your corps. But noooo, rather use it to hurt the game, ehh? Standard Goon MO ?? Does the concept of social contract mean ANYTHING to you
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.28 06:47:00 - [11] and the wonderful single shard server shows its soap-opera complications again
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.28 08:08:00 - [12] Edited by: Alias11 on 28/05/2007 08:06:40 I've had petitions deleted outright. I don't have the character anymore, but I know I've lost them. They were old, closed ones but they were deleted I WILL KILL YOU STAHLREGEN
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.28 08:16:00 - [13] Originally by: Elmo Noguchi Originally by: Gerrard Knight Originally by: Katherine Howard If CCP doesn't take their players seriously with these kind of accusations why don't the players just chip in money and sue CCP for not providing a level playing ground? I'm sure with the incredibly large player base that enough money could easily be pooled together in a short amount of time to hire a lawyer and handle this professionally. What do the people think of this post? Worthless, pointless, idiotic. And I'm ANTI-CCP in this situation. Suing CCP is in the trifecta of inconceivably terrible ideas along with "Ban all of bob for being cheaters" and "ban all of Goonswarm for DDoSing/Interweb Slander/Ruining CCP's reputation because we're made we can't beat bob(whichever it is)"
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.28 08:20:00 - [14] Originally by: umop 3pisdn Originally by: Gerrard Knight Originally by: Katherine Howard If CCP doesn't take their players seriously with these kind of accusations why don't the players just chip in money and sue CCP for not providing a level playing ground? I'm sure with the incredibly large player base that enough money could easily be pooled together in a short amount of time to hire a lawyer and handle this professionally. What do the people think of this post? I think that the EULA will protect CCP entirely from any crap like that. This isnt america, home of the ambulance chaser. It's their playground and they can do what they like in it. They dont have to tell you anything that they dont want too. We are customers and have signed away our "rights" EULAs tend to fall apart in any court, no matter where. The case would exist that the product was defective or that the operators of it were criminally negligent, but it would be ********. A case could be made, but you'd be laughed out of court for suing for 15 bucks because the guys who made the internet spaceship game were cheating, just like how ingame spies make use of illegal social engineering methods, but there's no way you'd ever get someone convicted
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.28 08:24:00 - [15] Originally by: Kerfira Originally by: Alias11 Edited by: Alias11 on 28/05/2007 08:06:40 I've had petitions deleted outright. I don't have the character anymore, but I know I've lost them. They were old, closed ones but they were deleted I WILL KILL YOU STAHLREGEN You not seeing them in you petition list doesn't mean they're deleted from CCP's systems. Accept that your bosses lied about this to try to hurt the game.... If this is the argument you're actually going to make here then I really don't know what to say. The Petition regarding the matter was apparently deleted from CEO Pyrex's petition folder without a response, and at that point there's no real way to get a response since the petition is no longer in the box, hence, for all applicable purposes here, it was deleted, it doesn't matter if that particular string of ones and zeroes is sitting on a server somewhere doing nothing.
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.28 09:52:00 - [16] Originally by: Sergeant Spot We "know" that a pro goon ISD was bumping anti goon dreads, getting directly involved in game supporting one group of players (sort of what the goons were accusing CCP and BoB of doing, imagin that.....) It's amazing how we went from "Unaffiliated Empire RPer on his ISD character may or may not have bumped a (1) dread on accident before orbiting the battlefield at standard distance" to "Goon ISD member bumps bob dreads in deliberate attempt to interfere with the game".
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.28 17:35:00 - [17] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: MrJordanIOI Hello Alice I am one of those 10 "alts" who signed Darkstar's very clever rehash of this situation and how it may have come to be. When you are done sorting your single (one!) member in your corporation "Christine" and found time to dry your ears please start a conversation in game or mail me so we can get more intimate. I d like to prove I am not an alt. Thank you for your attention, IOI It's hard to distinguish between alts and mains when there is so much wishful thinking going on. It's obvious people are /signing because of their ineptitude to form their own opinion. It will always be easier to just follow someone you can maby remotely relate to and that does not lie -too- much. Sad to see but not much one can do about it. By the way, i don't mind alts with content. Just an eff why eye but when you're trying to be condescending and holier-than-thou it really helps if you don't massacre the language with phrases like "their ineptitude to form their own opinion."
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.28 17:40:00 - [18] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Malashek Vatrii Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley It's hard to distinguish between alts and mains when there is so much wishful thinking going on. It's obvious people are /signing because of their ineptitude to form their own opinion. It will always be easier to just follow someone you can maby remotely relate to and that does not lie -too- much. Sad to see but not much one can do about it. By the way, i don't mind alts with content. Maybe someone formed a similar opinion and there is no point writing it again with minuscule differences, so /signed is easier. That's the problem with eve nowadays, follow the first poster! It will get you somewhere. Some people believe anything to be true as long as it has been repeated multiple times. Originally by: Alias11 Just an eff why eye but when you're trying to be condescending and holier-than-thou it really helps if you don't massacre the language with phrases like "their ineptitude to form their own opinion." and then keep quoting and repeating it
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.28 17:50:00 - [19] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Alias11 Just an eff why eye but when you're trying to be condescending and holier-than-thou it really helps if you don't massacre the language with phrases like "their ineptitude to form their own opinion." English is not my first language, my apologies. So you admit you're using words that you don't know the meaning of to sound like you're smart?
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.29 08:12:00 - [20] false dichotomies are the new black

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