Originally by: Dianabolic

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And, if you guys for one minute tried to engage with the community rather than turn it in to your (self coined phrase) "goons in space" you may actually get that kind of contact.

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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I've never seen anyone around me do anything wrong, Midgarth. I thought that CCP handled the whole T20 affair absolutely horribly - I think CCP handle alot of stuff horribly, but I've never seen my own alliance mates cheat. It's a nice thing to throw around of course, that some of us knew certain peoples' identities but, tbh, we got that prior to this event anyway so it really makes no difference to us.

The people in BoB are my friends, I trust my friends to play the game, as a game (it's why we rejected Kugs blackmail attempts) - I can't really see myself leaving.

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Originally by: Rebellion

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Originally by: Beka Rosselin

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I'll hold off comment on the basic issues until we hear more, but one thing I will say.. springing this the way you did, and at the end of the business day on a Friday no less, has no doubt put CCP into the perfect frame of mind to deal with your case in a fair and balanced manner.

To everyone demanding that CCP respond to all allegations in full detail immediately, take into account when/how this was dropped on them. They need to gather information, get all the people involved to give their sides of the story, etc. And what do you want to bet that many of them had already gone home for the weekend when this whole issue came up?

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That's probably the intent here. To pull this antic on a weekend so that it stays up longer. During the weekend there are more people browsing stuff and reading things, and less CCP to do investigation. If they really wanted quick resolution from CCP, they'd have timed this during CCP work hours on a weekday. I don't even have to cite proof that the main reason for this stunt is controversy.

None of us even know what really happened, but the goons believe it's their godgiven right to have a onesided soapbox by inundating the forums and other sources of information with themselves.

Can't you even wait until next week for CCP to finish their investigation? What's with the urgency? Is this some life threatening issue that needs to get resolved by people working overtime?

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Somehow this thread has, as many threads are nowadays, been turned towards "omg bob cheat ALL the time", whereas that is NOT the case (according to CCP... which, we know, many people do not accept, but whatever, they are the ultimate power to make that decision in this world).

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Originally by: Rebellion

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Originally by: Foopadoo

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It's no "dread getting bumped by a polaris frigate", that's for sure...

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You'd have a lot more credibility if you posted with your main instead of an alt that posts stuff like this: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=479711&page=4#92

Credibility would be good for your side, it'll help your argument. If you really believe that CCP is out to get you, why bother posting with an alt?

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Originally by: Inturist

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Should i turn on my Sony VEgas again and strat editing more movies with VERY NICE conversations with Goonies in local , and some private ones ?

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Originally by: 1337tong

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Edited by: 1337tong on 26/05/2007 03:35:40

Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate

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Here is the problem with you and Blacklights argument:

1. DS1 petitioned this as soon as they saw a GM had been in their corp. That petition was deleted.

That's right, a guy asking why a GM had roles in their corp and then left didn't recieve an answer, his question was deleted.

2. As of right now, no members of DS1 have stepped forward saying they petitioned this. The CEO stepped forward and said he didn't even think they had any POSs needing investigation.

So we tried taking this directly to CCP, but instead of an answer, our petitions were deleted, which forced this.

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so let me get this straight none of ds1 members stepped forward? did you bother to ask each and everyone of those who had starbase control about it to confirm that they didnt petition it before starting the spam parade?

sometimes petitions dont work there is a escalating option where you could of e-mailed one of them (CCP/Devs)to ask them to check on this.

Did your alliance even consider that before spaming as many threads as they could??

as for the ISD incident my only comment about that is following

your alliance not only brought the T20 incident publicly to the eve populace but also used it as a means to increase your chances at taking bobs space after LV by trying to bandwagon as many as you could. to say that your reason for releasing this information from an unbiased point of view would be a understatment as you have a very biased perspective of us (BoB) already.

What i am getting at, is that i doubt the ISD incident about Raehkan's so called story being true and in actual fact it was a total fabrication of the truth. he was probably banned for other malicious acts that were done by him (probably in your favor or RA's) and as a goonie holds a grudge against bob and now ccp for banning him. this gave him his just cause to write what he has in your "Open Letter to CCP" then again im wondering if he even wrote it at all maybe it was another member who thought it would be a good idea to try and attack BOB through discrediting CCP even more

either way we will find out once CCP makes their official statment about this

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