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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:05:00 -
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read something interesting
"rather emphasising that it was all for 'The Greater Good'."
hit fuzz anyone?\
CCP did you lose your wife to someone not letting bob be the ultimate corp? and now they must be. and it's ok because you still make new stuff? and you fix more bugs?
for the "greater good"??
Is CCP a cult?
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:17:00 -
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no not this time this is somethign that started to simple and that they have admited to. it's in the news post.
a GM did join a corp and take rights fixed something and then left.
that GM did ignore tons of people form the corp trying to ask what was up. If he said. oh something was bugged I fixed it. instead of ignoring them.
this would all be over. what were they expecting? I mean if you ignore players asking "Why were you the CEO of my corp?" then the **** is going to hit the fan.
I don't know if the cheating is real or not.
but some times you ask for it CCP, you just ask to be acused
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kaoyama Ameko
Originally by: L4NC3R Ya know, I read....about 5 of the beginning pages and a few before this page and I have to say, I have played many MMO's over the years too. From FFXI to WoW to EQ (seems like all of them though :P) and I would have to say that Eve is most likely the best of them all. But after reading what has been going on, I might have to say screw Eve. I love this game, but if the head honchos are gonna kill the experience for us all, then I would like to leave. GM's and Dev's arent supposed to be a major part of the game. Friends or not, everything should be professional. I know this is what this whole thread is saying but geeze man, give us some news. Did you all **** up? Yes or No? Be truthful. Is there something going on? Yes or No. And are you all at least doing something about it? Thats all we ask. But if there are some answers in this 30 page long thread please link me and sorry for the ****. But I would rather suck at a game then play a game with unbeatable cheaters that actually affect me.
/end rant
FUD FUD FUD
WOAH! fud you you fuding fuder unnessasy that was just a player asking for help. they even said if they are wrong they are sry in advance. and you go off on them. bob alt I assume
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gerard Deneth Well, figured I'd throw in my .02 ISK.
Won't say as much about some other issues, but the sheer b****yness about the fact that CCP orchestrates events is pretty, well SAD. Has no one here EVER played an RPG with pen and paper, and some overlording GM?
No?
Sad. Well, the basic deal is this: The PCs (that's you guys) go and do stuff. The GM has this overarching plot that he may want you guys to deal with (the standard parents slain by evil overlord yadda yadda) as the campaign progresses. Now, if he feels you're wandering away from this too far, he may begin to exert subtle and not so subtle controls to force you back. Important events my suddenly tie back to villains, you may find roads closed by avalanches, etc etc.
As well, if you're fighting some monster that is just kicking your a**, the GM may end up fudging some rolls here and there. He's got that screen thing, so you can't see that the critical hit he rolled has been turned into a miss, or that somehow an attack hit when it shouldn't have. But he makes those choices (Ideally anyhow) for the sake of player enjoyment and plot development.
Guess what kids, CCP does the same. They just don't have a screen to hide behind, and when they do choose to fudge some things, they might not be doing it in quite as neat and invisible manner as possible. Sadly, the game itself forces them to do so. They can't fudge damage rolls on the sly, or make it so that a few ships get distracted and wander off somewhere. Or fall into a pit. Or anything else that a pen and pencil RP can do.
As well, they've got this MASSIVE (or I presume they do anyhow) back story and intertwined plot that they'd verymuch like to get out there, a plot that I'll bet dollars to donuts has much to do with some improved hardware that may come out. Heck, it might bring something forward like actual faction warfare (IE this big war that's been steadily building up as time goes by). And we can only wonder, but at least realize that the GMs may have reasons they want certain RP factions to win.
Anyhow, that's my .02 ISK. I'm not a stinking alt, I don't HAVE one, and I'm not involved with any CCP decision making crud. I'm just a old school paper and pencil GameMaster who's seen this drek before.
right! but, have you ever played in a pen and paper where the GM plays one of the PC's?
that is my only gripe
oh and I ahve it made me want to hang my head in shame.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nox Aeterna
Originally by: Kaoyama Ameko
Originally by: Nox Aeterna
2) The ISD character. It is apparent from reading the chat logs, that he ignored ISD rules, and an instruction to leave system. Both are acts of insubordination...which is and should be sufficient grounds for termination from any company.
*cough* the instructions to leave system were from Bob *cough*
but then again It's the job of ISD members to sit 70km away and watch stuff. THIER JOB.
maybe BoB couldn't cheat while an ISD member was watching? pint is, they do this all of the time. they are eyes . and you aren't suppose to able to tell someone whos is montering the nod of a 270 fleet battle to leave. THey are suppose to be there... that's what they do! Take a look at the open letter, where the posters were generous enough to post a convo. You can clearly see a CCP admin telling him to leave. Whether it was just or not, should have been addressed to that particular admin's superiors.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:31:00 -
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"And finally, we'd win anyway, we don't need to do any of this to be better then you at Eve.
/i
Now, I cba to really take this whole mess seriously again and come out feeling dumber again while seeing the legion of ******s succeed in their mission to cause damage where none is warranted again. So i'm not gooing to be following this debacle further. Enjoy your witchhunt, I don't quite get why you're not all already banned but eh, I'm not a dev am I."
wait... again???? did you just say that the whole free BPO's never happen? IT did happen!there was a dev blog someone got sry I can't stand how wrong all of this is. again?> again? again? again? shakes head*
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: TOGAKURE Daisuke
Originally by: MotherMoon
right! but, have you ever played in a pen and paper where the GM plays one of the PC's?
Well, lets call this game big LARP because it's definitely more that than P&P. All GM's in LARPs I know are players themselves (works because there's like 10+ GM's...).
I bet some poor wage-slave wrote a nice script for the event which the players try to torpedo from the first second. Honestly I don't like railroading/scripting the event myself. But I can also imagine in this kind if game you might have to do so (to code all the stuff in). In P&P it's much easier to let people do what they want to.
ah but this is not a larp it's a PC game and this is not about events. it's about real player sov and losses. the same thing that makes EvE great makes the GM's effecting something that much wrose.
when you lose a titan while it's building it's gone. you don't respawn.
Lets say the Gm wasn't cheating.
he is still playing for a corp that is on good terms with bob. he is still trying to fix a buged POS Thus he will see everything being built in the POS
wether he likes it or not he now has information that he could use unfairly because he is playing a GM and PC
And because that POS will effect his corp it must be hard to not tell because the loss of ships and mods is real
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:41:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 26/05/2007 08:40:35
erm, FUD = Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.
I'm not a BoB alt, I'm accusing GoonSwarm of using FUD (a particularly cheap way to go after an opponent).
haha
...ops. hides lets jusat edit those 2 posts out :P
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Frabala Don't know if it's already posted, but this admiral whatever is the same guy who was on site of D2's Titan kill minutes after the kill, congratulating everyone involved. Screen Thread
oh god creepy
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: doyoulikemytightsweater Just in a nutshell - can anyone explain what exactly really happened ?
I ve tried reading through the thread but couldnt find it - well, I m still reading but curious as I am I d like to know now :o)
A GM made himself the CEO of darksatr to Fix a buggy POS he then quit a few mins later and didn't answer any of the CEOs or players form darkstar going "wait, what? why was he our CEO?
while this would be all fine because he is a GM, he is also a PC. and thus it's the same as PC going into your corp and getting full reign.
Darkstars hidden capital building POS is now no longer hidden to one dev/Gm at least. will he tell bob? or will there be more twists??
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf
Originally by: Mel Nalsek
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Frabala Don't know if it's already posted, but this admiral whatever is the same guy who was on site of D2's Titan kill minutes after the kill, congratulating everyone involved. Screen Thread
oh god creepy
Wow... Just... wow. That's quite a coincidence.
There are no coincidences in life.....
something is up
that GM's account is very new as.
looks like it was made... when the ISD member was kicked
wait could someone look into the 4 month old?
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 19:37:00 -
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So anyone who posts here who disagrees with you is a goon?
How do you know this?
There. want to ignore me? I fully agee with this statement. it's just sad that your right in a way, there are quite a good number of goons posting with alts. but all of them? don't make me laugh
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: James Potkukelkka
Originally by: Vozzek
In related news, GM sharkbait has finally given DS1 a response.
:O
What manners..
lol wait
is this real?? or someone messing with the game :P
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Marovinchian Goonfleet forums: "Guys, we are getting absolutely annihilated out here...it's time now to deploy our only means of defense....SPAM, SPAM THE FORUMS, SPAM YOUR LOCAL CHANNELS, BOB ARE CHEATERS, EVERYTHING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED IN GAME IS THEM CHEATING AND CCP HELPING THEM, WITH ALL YOU HAVE SPAM THE VERY DEPTHS OF OUTER SPACE UNTIL ALL OF EVE IS DESTROYED"
seriously guys...lose with some class
yeah bob win with some class..
oh wait
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Karsten
Originally by: Khlaatu Nikto
Quote:
In related news, GM sharkbait has finally given DS1 a response.
Now THAT makes me angry.
Is this the way CCP treats paying customers?
I know I'm posting again.. but can someone post a link to the log of this please? I want to download the proof.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: D'Artagnan
Originally by: Khlaatu Nikto
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In related news, GM sharkbait has finally given DS1 a response.
Now THAT makes me angry.
BUT if sharkbait is in BOB's pocket what is he doing in immensea as we are not in operations their at the moment, he is now fired.
I don't care if he's working for you BoB! I don't care about the goons! it doesn't matter who's side who is on, I don't care. He was the one who entered the corp he is the one who unpluged himself he is the one who ignored all of everyone trying to talk to him.
do you think non-goons really care if it's you who cheats? I don't care who it is. if this is what sharkbait had to said it's just fedup
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Iraf Thaiberd Argh, that screenshot way predates any of this.
yay a goon said it has no relavance! I can rest easy
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.26 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sochin
Originally by: DARKLING
NEXT STEPS : 1. Remove all ccp backed pod based characters from game now, not tommorrow, not next week, not whenever their chattles have been redistributed........NOW. 2. Flood the market with more sought after bpo's, make it possible to build supercaps in 0.4 or at least other than 0.0 space. 3. Limit ISD actions or those of other CCP based chars TO SPECIFIC STORYLINE ACTIVITIES { I miss seeing oveur and the Jovians !!!}
It's a start.....
Are. You. ********.
1. The only reason EVE is as good as it is today is BECAUSE CCP plays the game. EVE is an extremely complicated game, and if the developers themselves were not rapid fans themselves we would end up with idiotic and bland stuff like Star Wars Galaxies. This is ESPECIALLY relevant in relation to alliance warfare. Why do you think the Alliance system was even implemented in game? Because developers played in the alliances and realized the necessity for ingame support of a phenomenon that they had never anticipated (massive player alliances vying for control of space, instead of individual corporations).
2. You only say this because you just lost all your stations to "BoB pets" and need to be able to build motherships in empire. And what the hell would flooding the market with BPOs accomplish other then completely ruin EVE's economy?
3. I don't even know what you mean by this point.
I agree with you but you shouldn't know that a player in your corp is a Dev.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tod Klemp
Originally by: Cheval Blanc
Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: LymeM So CCP released the revelations 2.0 info simply to draw attention from this.. Kinda sad.
So you did all this on the forums only to draw attention from you losing the war? Kinda sad.
So you cheated in so many ways to win the war? Kinda sad.
except there is no proof of bob cheating to beat your face in. there is proof though you are getting rolled up though. see the difference?
again... POS bowling? anyone?
and I'm not that worried about cheating I don't care if they have or haven't been cheating it's the fact that They can get a ISD member fired and his PC account deleted or when the goons post ONE tread it gets deleted not locked mind you it was wiped off the face of the forums
I don't like this one bit
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tod Klemp
Originally by: LymeM So CCP released the revelations 2.0 info simply to draw attention from this.. Kinda sad.
your tinfoil hattery no no bounds.
lolz it's been more than a week it was due anyways A dev even posted about writting the heat one far before any of this same with POS warfare.
if your heavy on the GD forum and test server you'd know this statement is silly
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 03:56:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 27/05/2007 03:57:48
Originally by: D1ck Jones
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Tod Klemp
Originally by: Cheval Blanc
Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: LymeM So CCP released the revelations 2.0 info simply to draw attention from this.. Kinda sad.
So you did all this on the forums only to draw attention from you losing the war? Kinda sad.
So you cheated in so many ways to win the war? Kinda sad.
except there is no proof of bob cheating to beat your face in. there is proof though you are getting rolled up though. see the difference?
again... POS bowling? anyone?
so wait, only BOB does that?
sorry, this is very true :P I was pointing out the fact that he got mad that a goony might of been bumping as a ISD member without saying they love to do the same thing :P
then again it's been said before and it's my views as well.
I don't care about the goons vs. BoB this is picture as a whole. and BoB, your the best, so you get to be the scapegoat
speaking of which... if you have cheated, I don't understand way, you'd win in the end like you keep saying.. so why even do it. that's why I don't believe in the cheating
as far as being anle to msn devs and get people baned... well you yourself told me that and I think that's messed up.
and if it's not true I hope BoB kicks you out of BoB for making them look bad
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: Marovinchian
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Marovinchian Edited by: Marovinchian on 27/05/2007 03:41:35
Originally by: Fluffernator Yeah, I think Its time to cancel my account.....
Is it fair a BOB member can get a petition answered immediatly by msn and I have to wait two weeks?.....
its kinda sad that ccp is meta gaming their own creation!
STOP digging your self in deeper! do these show what your whole corp feels? if they do tell them the stuff your posting see if your superoirs like it
Bumping in a jove ship? wait... no? you can't bump by jumping! you dumb BOB member you poor thing
speaking of bumping... pos bowling?
I think you are missing the flipside of this coin, Is it fair that goons have one of thier members in isd bumping bob dreadnaughts in a very hostile situation while being invincible?
From what ive been able to decipher without my eyes bleeding...it seems everyone is up in arms about bob getting an issue with cheating and ccp employee's abusing thier power handled in a timely manner...i mean....sheesh
You see the accusations whichever way you want to see them, but in the end this situation was caused by goons abusing the people THEY have working for THEM in the departments of ccp
is this supposed to be an actual post? i was there, im quite sure you weren't.....you toss out words like dumb, poor thing, and try to attack a perspective that doesn't support what YOU decide to believe. btw, jumping to may not cause bumping, but the several minutes the pilot spent being an ass in local while piling into our dreadnaughts sure did. your post is merely blind ignorance at it's best kiddo
ok I'm willing to believe he was actully being an ass. then way do you POS bowl? I mena I guess it's hard not to if the option is there.. I don't know. I believe only what I'm told has happen and I know that you can msn devs as far as what he was doing I wish someone had fraped this whole thing. P.s. second half of that wasn't me posting
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 04:05:00 -
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Originally by: Etho Demerzel
Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: Cheval Blanc
Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: LymeM So CCP released the revelations 2.0 info simply to draw attention from this.. Kinda sad.
So you did all this on the forums only to draw attention from you losing the war? Kinda sad.
So you cheated in so many ways to win the war? Kinda sad.
LV lost the war, so if we cheated, we did something wrong. But if you thing that we cheated why don't you quit?
You did at least a thousand things wrong. I saw many of them myself.
Cheating is no guarantee of victory. You have to at least be reasonably competent to profit on the cheating. This BoB has been. Everyone is good at something. They are in cheating and doublethinking. It is quite a gift :)
um http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXr9Z5YHr88 you allready told us why LV is gone you let them die it was a good tatic it ture EVE-evil captalstic glory and if BoB didn't want this out you better get them to take it down I for one say it was a great tactic but it countertics a lot sry about spellign it's not important anyways
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Prall Grosserbauch Edited by: Prall Grosserbauch on 27/05/2007 04:34:18
Originally by: Marovinchian I get that you feel the SUPPOSED line of communication used makes for an uneven level of timely resolution to seperate situations...but seriously...having a problem dealt with being a bigger deal than the person causing the problems?
Yes, because it gives those with the right MSN addresses advantages that the rest of the game lacks. Also, no, Raehkan is not and has never been a goon.
Originally by: Sergeant Spot Proof I'd leave BoB if the charges are true "as stated" by goons:
Just out of curiosity did you say the same thing the last time "untrue" allegations about a dev being a member of BoB were floating about? Or the time there were those "untrue" allegations of the self same dev spawning BPOs for your alliance?
goony I don't want to bring it up again but a Dev never spawned the BPos. He didnsomething just as bad. Once it was found he was a Dev and he was letting PC's know and other stuff. He was told to leave the corp. before he left he gave his BPO's to BoB. He gave BPO's he used for testing and just has for months.
it's still not cool but get your facts straight. there is a good chance thatr top member thought it was sweet to get the BPO's without knowing they were being favored.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: eleuthereus
Originally by: Marovinchian Everyone needs some external reason why bob win at eve...facts are (having spent over 3 years outside bob) that they simply do everything better, and have more dedication and will to win than anyone else out there, and attract the majority of like minded people. The witch hunt as to why they win need only look at this fact
Wow - there it is again. The elitism I spoke about several pages back that keeps coming from BOB. And, if anyone missed it, the entire Eve player base has just been summarily dissed - no matter what corp your in, no matter what alliance you're in, no matter what level of experience you're at. This is unreal.
I agree, why won't BoB keep it's flame war to being better than you goon's? I keep feeling like 'm getting slaped in the face.
If I could before a goon now I would. just to fight BoB. I still don't think anyone is cheating really. but this high and mighty we rule you all crap is getting to me big time.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: antientity
Originally by: Stephar What a thread!
One little comment: It's not in CCP's best interest for BoB to wipe everyone else out of 0.0. For EVE to survive, it needs new players... and they won't play if it appears that an alliance has already won the game. So if there's any corruption, it's not at the top. The big guys at CCP are not dumb, they aren't going to bite the hand that feeds them. CCP will deal with the developers & staff that have crossed the line.
That being said, my account is temporarily cancelled. I'll reactivate when this is sorted.
It should also be said that its not in BOB's best interest to wipe everyone out either, nor would it make the game any better for them, there goal at this point is to remove all people who in their mind are idiots.
I don't think/hope BoB wants to own all of ).)
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sujin Kai
Originally by: MotherMoon goony I don't want to bring it up again but a Dev never spawned the BPos.
T20 admitted that he didn't come by those BPOs legitimately. He didn't actually spell out that he spawned them, but it was clear that he spawned them, or rigged the lottery, or did something behind the scenes to get them inappropriately.
And then he handed them to BoB, and BoB took them, knowing who he was (because he had given them secret CCP information before).
yeah, I tried to edit my post but it wouldn't let me I guess it's like arguing the same point. sorry
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: barry warzght Yea CCP seriously needs to look at this cause it makes for bad reviews and a bad game in genral.
If they dont have anything to hide then why did SharkBait not respond to the petition
this is what really worries me... EvE used to be on the top of sites like MMORPG.com
but now it's plauged by people who give 0's over and over again because of this one thing.
it's like 6th now
gives us a bad image I was getting, "eVe? you mean the game that the Dev's cheat in?"
I hate it so much. Please think about what the gaming communty and I mean the whoiloe gaming communty of millions think about EvE.
please take it into consideration. I don't want to be bashed on the side when I'm not playing EvE.
well it's not me that is bashed but it still hurts a little when you liek something so much and your nerdy friends don't like it.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Butzewutze
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Butzewutze Hi
Its not the "favouritism of Bob" that players make to quit. Its the combination of:
5. Unwanted features (walking in stations) before the code has been optimized
oh really? unwanted by you maybe
wanted by everyone else
Hm... so u want to tell me this game isnt really bugged and walking in stations is "the feature" we want to stay ingame? I dont think so. Its like a car that drives 10 miles and then shut down from itself... not a problem... i will add a spoiler on top to compensate.
But the walking isn't coming untill the new cilent is released. and don't you dare bring up the one carrier as an example it's allready been fixed a while ago.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 05:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tod Klemp
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
Originally by: Popsikle
Originally by: Tod Klemp just out of curiosity, what does sharkbait have to do with bob? Its not like they are a hard corp to get into.
/me shrugs.
T20 was in BoB so all the devs must be in bob, duh, rational thinking!
No T20 was never in BoB. Read all the posts of BoB's members at that time. I believe in them! Don't you dare to say that T20 was in BoB your tinfoil bandwagoner.
Ya, T20 was never in bob.
He had an alt in bob.
See how easy it is to play semantics liek the rest of you tardswarm guys?
Again, what did sharkbait have to do with bob? What did bob actually do? Has anything been proven? Would you like a nice witch?
Here you go
go to the front page of EvE-online click devblog look to your right
look a news post
open it
oh look "Our preliminary findings indicate that what happened was simply a developer doing his job ingame. He joined the corporation in order to access their POS, which was bugged."
why does a Dev have to join a corp to fix something? can't you use your magical poweres of being a dev? To do the same thing and not get cuaght?
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: eleuthereus Edited by: eleuthereus on 27/05/2007 05:07:29 A very interesting public post from Sharkbait a while ago in response to an Eve Tribune article on GM intervention (see http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=1_19&page=7).
Sharkbait Posted: "i read the 1st 3 lines for the GM artical and got bored. it's written based on rumors and complete crap spread by others. the stuff the GM's do is for a reason, not just something they decide to do to lighten up there lives. there is much talk between the senior GM's about getting involved with ingame stuff before they get involved." (found at http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=1_20&page=print).
Sooooo, given Sharkbait's infiltration of Darkstar 1 for some as yet unconfirmed or xplained reason, it seems that there must have been "much talk" about his getting involved in such a way. If there was NOT much talk, then perhaps it was a rogue act of his. Which was it -- and why? That's all we really want toknow about that.
I hope this brings to light how the goons aren't even saying anything about BoB. the BoB thing is a whole different story. with the ISD member.
I bet you more than 70% of the goons care more about the lack of information and answers than BoB cheating.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tod Klemp
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Tod Klemp
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
Originally by: Popsikle
Originally by: Tod Klemp just out of curiosity, what does sharkbait have to do with bob? Its not like they are a hard corp to get into.
/me shrugs.
T20 was in BoB so all the devs must be in bob, duh, rational thinking!
No T20 was never in BoB. Read all the posts of BoB's members at that time. I believe in them! Don't you dare to say that T20 was in BoB your tinfoil bandwagoner.
Ya, T20 was never in bob.
He had an alt in bob.
See how easy it is to play semantics liek the rest of you goonswarm guys?
Again, what did sharkbait have to do with bob? What did bob actually do? Has anything been proven? Would you like a nice witch?
Here you go
*snip*
go to the front page of EvE-online click devblog look to your right
look a news post
open it
oh look "Our preliminary findings indicate that what happened was simply a developer doing his job ingame. He joined the corporation in order to access their POS, which was bugged."
why does a Dev have to join a corp to fix something? can't you use your magical poweres of being a dev? To do the same thing and not get cuaght?
Ok, now open you mind and do some thinking. What the hell can a dev do IN THE CORP that he cant do OUT OF THE CORP? I mean seriously. Stop and think.
thank you for backing my main point. I don't know you don't know NO ONE KNOWS
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Posted - 2007.05.27 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tod Klemp
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: eleuthereus Edited by: eleuthereus on 27/05/2007 05:07:29 A very interesting public post from Sharkbait a while ago in response to an Eve Tribune article on GM intervention (see http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=1_19&page=7).
Sharkbait Posted: "i read the 1st 3 lines for the GM artical and got bored. it's written based on rumors and complete crap spread by others. the stuff the GM's do is for a reason, not just something they decide to do to lighten up there lives. there is much talk between the senior GM's about getting involved with ingame stuff before they get involved." (found at http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=1_20&page=print).
Sooooo, given Sharkbait's infiltration of Darkstar 1 for some as yet unconfirmed or xplained reason, it seems that there must have been "much talk" about his getting involved in such a way. If there was NOT much talk, then perhaps it was a rogue act of his. Which was it -- and why? That's all we really want toknow about that.
I hope this brings to light how the goons aren't even saying anything about BoB. the BoB thing is a whole different story. with the ISD member.
I bet you more than 70% of the goons care more about the lack of information and answers than BoB cheating.
So, the goons lump it all together in one big letter so the general idiots out there draw the conclusion bob had something to do with it. I mean it isnt rocket science to see their motives. Bob is absolutly decimating them ingame. Anyone with a shred of objectivity can see that.
who gives a ****
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Posted - 2007.05.27 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Elmo Noguchi
Originally by: CaffCeo
Originally by: Elmo Noguchi
I just wanted to note that is now been just over 6 hours since I sent an email to the [email protected], just like I was directed- surprise, surprise, no response at all yet.
It's almost like I was directed there so I would shut up and be ignored. I STILL have no idea which websites can't be posted or any good reason why they can't.
Thanks for your transparency, CCP!!
Hmm, 6 hours which would put the email at what, 2AM eve time? On a sunday? Or 7pm EST on a holiday weekend in the US.
Do you think they have time to answer emails within 6 hours on a weekend night, or holiday weekend, within 6 hours?
Normally when I email mods, or any of the dev's it takes a good 2-3 days for a response, and thats during slower periods....
Have some F'in patience.
You raised a good point. Since the devs can't be arsed to answer questions, here are some links for whoever is confused by what is going on. Hopefully they'll last a few minutes, though since the rules don't say a thing about it, I have NO REASON TO THINK THEY'LL BE DELETED.
http://goonfleet.com/open_letter_to_CCP.html
http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?t=832
http://digg.com/pc_games/EVE_Creators_CCP_Under_Fire_Again_for_Alleged_Corruption_Open_Letter_Made
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/26/0016226
Farewell, Eve O forum members! Remember me next time Arkanon talks about how CCP doesn't censor the community.
I will!
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tod Klemp
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Tod Klemp
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: eleuthereus Edited by: eleuthereus on 27/05/2007 05:07:29 A very interesting public post from Sharkbait a while ago in response to an Eve Tribune article on GM intervention (see http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=1_19&page=7).
Sharkbait Posted: "i read the 1st 3 lines for the GM artical and got bored. it's written based on rumors and complete crap spread by others. the stuff the GM's do is for a reason, not just something they decide to do to lighten up there lives. there is much talk between the senior GM's about getting involved with ingame stuff before they get involved." (found at http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=1_20&page=print).
Sooooo, given Sharkbait's infiltration of Darkstar 1 for some as yet unconfirmed or xplained reason, it seems that there must have been "much talk" about his getting involved in such a way. If there was NOT much talk, then perhaps it was a rogue act of his. Which was it -- and why? That's all we really want toknow about that.
I hope this brings to light how the goons aren't even saying anything about BoB. the BoB thing is a whole different story. with the ISD member.
I bet you more than 70% of the goons care more about the lack of information and answers than BoB cheating.
So, the goons lump it all together in one big letter so the general idiots out there draw the conclusion bob had something to do with it. I mean it isnt rocket science to see their motives. Bob is absolutly decimating them ingame. Anyone with a shred of objectivity can see that.
who gives a ****
The point is clealry an attempt at guilt by association. Because they can't win ingame they decide to manufacture a scandel involving bob. They mix a load of rubbish with two parts bull**** and the mob eats it up like it is candy. I personally hope everyone that says they are quitting in this thread actually does. The eve communities IQ will be going up steeply.
so if they left out the part about BoB then what song would you be playing?
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Posted - 2007.05.27 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: James VanRijkdom Now , the ccp employees being able to play the game w/ inside knowledge or helping others out w it is unprofessional yes, (Mcdonald's employees cant play the Monopoly sticker game for a top-o-the-head example), but I do agree w ones here who say basically Quit freaking out and being so melodramatic and acting like its the end of the world when a guy/ couple of company employees want to get in on the action. Its a game for Pete's sake. It's fun and theres a lot of quality features, there will always be something complain about. Don't act all righteous and say you never cheated at anything or used some kind of slightly unfair advantage over another person. (in a Gaming Sense) I personally hate cheating, but please get off the high-horse "I'm going to quit now" pseudo-principledness. Whatever. I'm rolling my eyes continuessly reading some of these posts by people who need to realize there are many more important things in life, and many more "Actuall" injustices in the world rather than you feeling bad because someone got a little bonus over you. Overcome it and be better than them. Stop Whining. It's been a pleasure.
wow after reading this I think I done with sitting read reading every post made :P I got stuff to do in the morning and it's allready 1:30 in the morning
how did I read forums for 2 hours? ow
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Prall Grosserbauch Edited by: Prall Grosserbauch on 27/05/2007 05:29:49
Originally by: Tod Klemp So, the goons lump it all together in one big letter so the general idiots out there draw the conclusion bob had something to do with it.
Can you please get it through your head that not everything is about BoB? We want to know why a dev chose to make himself director of a corp in our alliance without informing anyone, not make BoB look bad. Their directors do a far better job of that than we ever could.
ok I'll go to bed right after I hug you
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Posted - 2007.05.27 05:43:00 -
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Originally by: Rauth Kivaro Folks, only certain members of ISD are authorized to respond directly to your emails. This is intended to keep confusion from arising from inconsistent responses. As has been noted- it is a Saturday, and in the US, very late at night.
Let me reassure you that requests to [email protected] are NOT being ignored. Your patience in this matter is deeply appreciated by all of us on the CRC team.
Thanks and regards,
Rauth Kivaro
huazzah! I never thought you were but being told this make me happy inside because the transpreny reminds me of my job at city year. greater than most but sometime you know nothing it's this contrast that get everyone so crazy
so thank you for considering the feeling of those would think otherwise in this moment of high-strung end-of-thier rope...ness?.
I'm to tired for this
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Posted - 2007.05.27 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Incantare What a train wreck.
guess the rapetrain derailed :P
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: noob123 Honestly, I start to regret that I upgraded my account to paid account. :/
yeah your not an alt lol
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Posted - 2007.05.27 22:02:00 -
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d*** elmo get some sleep
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Elmo Noguchi Edited by: Elmo Noguchi on 27/05/2007 21:57:33
Originally by: Rod Blaine No there wasn't elmo.
I was there. If there was a system cap (condede I'm not sure, but if later cases i've seen local go higher then there and it never capped out) then it never got hit anyway, local never got above approximately 350 people while i was there (the entire duration of the fight), only 150 of which were BoB or BoB friendly btw.
I heard the cap was 700 in the system where you guys beat up the coalition dread fleet attacking the capital shipyard?
Edit: Whatever- it's neither here nor there.
doesn't matter what the cap was, if it was in place, BoB only had like 150-200 ships in system If the cap was there is wasn't hurting the goons anyways
why are you talking about this? this is not the tread :P more important things are at foot
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.27 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Elmo Noguchi Edited by: Elmo Noguchi on 27/05/2007 22:02:45
Originally by: MotherMoon d*** elmo get some sleep
I did, I just got up a little bit before you.
Does it look like I've been posting for 12 hours straight?
yeah it does lolz
you look like a true forum warroir! rawr
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.29 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: ssorion
Originally by: Mister Spanky Will the mods who are supposed to be moderating this thread please do something about the idiotic pyramid quoting, please?
So spamming the forums to the point at which they are getting closed is ok, spamming this very thread with same messages by same players is ok, but signing some wise post is not ? Goonies are mean
oh that's bu** and you know it it's a pro-goon post too sign it one at a time
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