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Hexxx	Posted - 2008.06.03 21:34:00 - [121] Originally by: Ambo I too was wondering about this. FB is very late on dividends and a friend of mine has not recieved any shares or communication after depositing cash. Given the situation, I'm guessing the cash is mostly gone and FL has legged it with whatever was left. Would love to hear otherwise but given the lack of communication, etc, it does not look good. Let's tone done the speculation. FB may very well be extremely busy at the moment. Recent developments in his alliance have no doubt presented him with some "challenges". Yes, late dividends and lack of news is a "red flag", but let's not be so quick to smear the name of a guy who's been running FuryBank like a well-oiled machine for roughly a year. Director \| www.eve-bank.net
Ambo Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.06.04 06:04:00 - [122] Originally by: Hexxx Originally by: Ambo I too was wondering about this. FB is very late on dividends and a friend of mine has not recieved any shares or communication after depositing cash. Given the situation, I'm guessing the cash is mostly gone and FL has legged it with whatever was left. Would love to hear otherwise but given the lack of communication, etc, it does not look good. Let's tone done the speculation. FB may very well be extremely busy at the moment. Recent developments in his alliance have no doubt presented him with some "challenges". Yes, late dividends and lack of news is a "red flag", but let's not be so quick to smear the name of a guy who's been running FuryBank like a well-oiled machine for roughly a year. No mater how busy someone is, it's easy to take a few minutes to post an update. The lack of communication is, to my mind, far more concerning than the late dividend. I noticed the loss of a Fury Holdings Nyx a few weeks back and was aware of the possible iminent demise of BRUCE. However, I chose to remain with my cash in the bank precisly because I trust FL far more than many others. He's done great things for the secondary market. The situation is FL has not updated us, dividends are several days late, my mate has been waiting for ages and still not recieved shares for his deposit or any communication... What else are we supposed to think? Ok, so saying FL had legged it with the rest was out of order but there are certainly problems over at Fury HQ and the manner in which the cash disappears is somthing of a secondary concern. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Mr Horizontal KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.04 11:39:00 - [123] I wouldn't be too quick to call anything on Fury and FastLearner, as I have a lot of faith in the chap... The thing about the whole FuryHoldings/Bank structure is that it basically supplies fuel (as well as other stuff) for an alliance, so should BRUCE follow the current fashion of imploding entirely, FL can switch the whole Fury operation to a new alliance to do the same thing. My guess is within 2-3 weeks of hard graft he could be set up and up and running again. For someone who's been running Fury as consistently and enigmatically as FL, I'm more than happy to have a short pause in dividends for 2 or 3 weeks for him to sort himself out again. That said, a quick nod to investors here really wouldn't hurt. Director \| www.eve-bank.net
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.06.04 12:34:00 - [124] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 04/06/2008 12:34:23 Originally by: Mr Horizontal For someone who's been running Fury as consistently and fervently as FL, I'm more than happy to have a short pause in dividends for 2 or 3 weeks for him to sort himself out again. That said, a quick nod to investors here really wouldn't hurt. ed: grammar Originally by: FastLearner Let's get the good news out of the way first. Fury Holdings has now been running as an IPO for just over a year - with a total profit for original investors of 546.43%. I'd been hoping to hit the 600% profit mark, but the events of the last few weeks put paid to that idea. I think FL did enough for the community already. Motherships
Ambo Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.06.05 05:57:00 - [125] Well regardless of what FL has done for the community, I'd still be around 2.3 billion down if Fury Bank went under with no more payments and no matter how you cut it, that's a fairly significant loss. Still, I'm playing AoC atm anyway so would not be too annoyed or anything. I'd just like to know what's going on. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Tisisan Calista Industries Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.06.06 20:06:00 - [126] Edited by: Tisisan on 06/06/2008 20:12:45 I have about 10 Bil invested and feel fine. I need to confirm, but I believe FL was contacted by phone and is on the road for his RL job, with a malfunctioning laptop. Id expect an update this weekend. (Edit: Confirmed)
Kushion Anti Sweden Defense Force Virtue of Selfishness	Posted - 2008.06.07 17:04:00 - [127] The problem isn't trust in FL - I'm not really worried he would try to scam us. The problem is that a lot of his assets are shootable or in BRUCE-owned stations that are not/may not be bruce owned much longer. If he had been at his keyboard during this, I'd have more faith it would be OK, and the assets could at least be liquidated. However, if he hasn't had time to get assets to safety... -- Taggart Transdimensional corporation - \| Capitalism \| Objectivism \| 0.0 \| No taxes \| No mandatory ops \| Join channel TAGGART for more
Amarr Citizen 155 Alternative Methods Research Group	Posted - 2008.06.09 06:32:00 - [128] Originally by: Kushion However, if he hasn't had time to get assets to safety... Then he can pay a service to get them out for him..... ---------------------------------------------- Why do it the hard way when you can do it the AMARR way.
Admiral Kwint XERCORE	Posted - 2008.06.09 07:00:00 - [129] Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 Originally by: Kushion However, if he hasn't had time to get assets to safety... Then he can pay a service to get them out for him..... Or he can can start doing business with the new owners. Business is business after all and having reasonably priced T2 items and ships always stocked in your 0.0 space (especially if it's contested) is one hell of an asset.
Dr Smog Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.06.09 12:27:00 - [130] OK, I'm back. I'm not posting with my usualcharacters (fastlearner and Fury Banker) as their accounts have run out of subscription. In brief: I was working away from home - not unusual and not usually a problem. However my laptop's hard drive failing WAS both (unusual and a problem). No net where I was staying - and the computers I was using to work on were neither networked or online (that has to be the case with them for legal reasons). My first priorities are to get skills restarted, accounts reactivated and any emergency logistics sorted. My online time today is limited -but I should get all of that done before I haveto go out this evening. Tomorrow I'll catch up on all Fury Bank related activity - if I gettime I'll deal with urgent withdrawal requests today. I have to process deposits before I can pay each outstanding week's dividends (So everyone entitled to it gets it). I'd ask noone PMs me - as I HAVE to do things in a specific order - and time spent in PMS is time not being spent catching up on things. Hopefully the reinstalled Eve on my replacement laptop works.
Mr Horizontal KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.09 13:02:00 - [131] Good to see you back man. Director \| www.eve-bank.net
Ambo Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.06.09 16:07:00 - [132] Edited by: Ambo on 09/06/2008 16:07:41 Glad to hear you're ok. Feel free to ignore the update request I sent you a while back. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Hexxx	Posted - 2008.06.09 16:10:00 - [133] Originally by: Dr Smog OK, I'm back. I'm not posting with my usualcharacters (fastlearner and Fury Banker) as their accounts have run out of subscription. In brief: I was working away from home - not unusual and not usually a problem. However my laptop's hard drive failing WAS both (unusual and a problem). No net where I was staying - and the computers I was using to work on were neither networked or online (that has to be the case with them for legal reasons). My first priorities are to get skills restarted, accounts reactivated and any emergency logistics sorted. My online time today is limited -but I should get all of that done before I haveto go out this evening. Tomorrow I'll catch up on all Fury Bank related activity - if I gettime I'll deal with urgent withdrawal requests today. I have to process deposits before I can pay each outstanding week's dividends (So everyone entitled to it gets it). I'd ask noone PMs me - as I HAVE to do things in a specific order - and time spent in PMS is time not being spent catching up on things. Hopefully the reinstalled Eve on my replacement laptop works. If you believe EBANK would be able to help in some way while you get back on your feet, please contact us and let us know. Director \| www.eve-bank.net
NookiEPoring Dirty Deeds Corp.	Posted - 2008.06.09 20:05:00 - [134] Originally by: Dr Smog I'd ask noone PMs me - as I HAVE to do things in a specific order - and time spent in PMS is time not being spent catching up on things. Skip my PMs then :P Great to hear that you're alive and kicking and hope you bounce back okey.
Kushion Anti Sweden Defense Force Virtue of Selfishness	Posted - 2008.06.13 03:26:00 - [135] To my surprise, Quote: 2008.06.12 20:14 Fury Bank Corp may have credited your account as part of a total payout of 2100000000 ISK to their shareholders. The amount awarded is based upon the number of shares you hold, in relation to the total number of shares issued by the corporation. Kind of incredible that he is managing payments so soon. Major kudos to FL... you never cease to amaze. Personally I wouldn't mind waiting a bit for you to get back on your feet, if it will help you recover faster.
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.06.13 16:36:00 - [136] I wasn't really keeping up with this situation, but that's mostly because I consider FL to be one of the very few in EVE to be a really honest good person. Not only that I think he's more capable than just about anyone else thats been around these forums. So I'm glad it was all just mechanical failure. If I had to pick a single person in EVE that I thought could handle my entire trading business and production business if I ever had to hand it off, FL would be that person. Of course he probably wouldn't even want it as he has too much on his hands already and has probably out-grown me when combining his personal and IPO wealth. But yeah, FL is good people. I of course am not guaranteeing he won't run off with hundreds of billions of isk tomorrow... haha, but I doubt it... just no reason for him to.
Reann Ni'shaang 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.06.27 06:36:00 - [137] Any new information from FastLearner, or about his situation/inactivity? :P
Castor Dei Calista Industries Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.06.28 09:41:00 - [138] I spoke to FL this morning via phone. He's out on the road for work at the moment and will (hopefully) be home Sunday evening. His RL workload is extremely high at the moment so asks that you please bear with him for the immediate future and he'll endeavour to update everyone as soon as he is able.
Waseem	Posted - 2008.07.06 14:40:00 - [139] Any chance of an additional update from someone?
Oni Waban Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:49:00 - [140] echo Waseem's request
Kareas Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.07.08 20:58:00 - [141] Edited by: Kareas on 08/07/2008 20:59:30 ditto, made a withdrawel request over 1 month ago...
Kwint Sommer Caldari Lothian Quay Industries	Posted - 2008.07.08 23:20:00 - [142] So, when can we expect an update? At least an "I'm on it" would be nice. You know, it makes people feel like you didn't run away with their money..... Oh, if you're an investor in Kwint Industries, don't worry, I'm not invested in this. Purchasing and Shipping Moon Minerals
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.07.09 00:09:00 - [143] I sure hope when he gets back a lot of people with HIA's will withdraw their money!
Ricdics Corporate Placement Holding	Posted - 2008.07.09 01:54:00 - [144] Originally by: Shadarle I sure hope when he gets back a lot of people with HIA's will withdraw their money! You seem to hold a lot of confidence. In this day and age you can get internet access anywhere. On your mobile phone, the local internet cafe, or one of any friend/family member's house, even at your work location. It's not hard for FL to simply make a post stating things are still on track and explain why the delays are occuring. The only excuse possibly valid for the lack of contact is that something has happened to him (medical) or something has happened to his memory. Otherwise it looks like he has found something he enjoys more than Eve so has severed his ties. Now, he may come back to pay people off and shut shop, or he may come back with a renewed interest in Eve, or he may do an Ionia and we never hear from him again. Either way this extended absence is nothing but bad news and poor form. If I were you Shadarle I wouldn't have the same kind of upbeat atitude about it, it looks almost certain to end badly. Even if FL does come back there will be such a run on the bank waiting that it will put them into administration, plus count the fact that a huge part of the money making activities have been removed with the BRUCE alliance modifications. My theory. BRUCE broke up, FL tried continuing, found it increasingly hard to do what he used to do. Maybe lost a few expensive items or cargo's trying to do so, got fed up, and went to play some other game. I hope FL proves me wrong and comes back to finish what he started or at least keep people updated on what is going on. One of the arguments we had with FL when comparing to EBANK was the pro's and con's of having multiple employee's. This is a perfect example of where we could come out in front. If I go on extended absence, we have other people in position to continue on with the workload. Same deal for anyone else. Redundancy is never a bad thing. Obviously too many fingers in the pie can be dangerous but a 15b teller scam is nothing compared to a 500b full bank scam/default/hiatus/injury by owner.
cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2008.07.09 02:39:00 - [145] If FL doesn't return a lot of people who took out loans will make out well. If FL does default, then it will be a hammer blow to the investment community.
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.09 03:13:00 - [146] Originally by: cosmoray If FL doesn't return a lot of people who took out loans will make out well. If FL does default, then it will be a hammer blow to the investment community. It will be a set-back. What I'm afraid of is that FL and BMBE are effectively both dead in the water...and that truely is unfortunate. I'm currently trying to mentor Dynasty Bank to follow a similiar model to EBANK in order to provide better risk mitigation and sustainability. When a project depends on just one person, there is a risk there. It does not doom the project, but it does present a risk. BMBE and FL were/are effectively one-man projects (Let's face it, Ray was BMBE). I'll echo Ricdic in saying that I hope I'm wrong about FL. I really admire the accomplishments of FuryBank and the dedication that it required. Director \| www.eve-bank.net
Nairb Ecrep	Posted - 2008.07.10 11:51:00 - [147] Can the person with the phone number give him a call again maybe?
Waseem	Posted - 2008.07.12 12:46:00 - [148] Edited by: Waseem on 12/07/2008 12:47:07 It has now been one month since the last divs were paid out and since last communication with FL occurred. Not including posts saying people called him. If the bank shares were able to be sold, I would mark them down 25% possibly more. I will be starting to write this off as a loss moving forward.
Ambo Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.07.15 12:19:00 - [149] Just keeping this in people's minds. Can we please get an update on what's going on? All that's needed is one or two lines. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Waseem	Posted - 2008.07.15 17:18:00 - [150] Echoing Ambo. An update would be nice, but specifically what I would like to see is a process for people who would like to withdraw, if FL comes back. There was a post saying that their withdraw request was not processed before this second extended absence.

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