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Jarna Amarr Eve University	Posted - 2007.05.26 17:33:00 - [1] Edited by: Jarna on 26/05/2007 17:32:55 I do hold to the fact you do stupid things, you get stupid results. However, I do see where people are coming from about this whole HighSec/CONCORD thing. If you can't go through SAFE SPACE without getting killed or at least people getting reprimanded, then WTF is it there for. The reason for HiSec is to give new players a safer environment to "Catch Up" with the older players. And anyone who says contrary is a Noob hater who wants to control everything instead of giving everyone a fair chance. Post of Inspiration
Thanos Mortis Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.26 17:37:00 - [2] People do get remprimanded in highsec, they lost their ship guaranteed if they engage in criminal activities -
Godar Marak Amarr Return Of Red Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.26 17:37:00 - [3] Rethorical questions of the day : Did you really have to start a new thread, do you think anyone cares? -------------------- '\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/' Cant we all just get along?
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.05.26 17:38:00 - [4] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 26/05/2007 17:40:42 Originally by: Jarna The reason for HiSec is to give new players a safer environment to "Catch Up" with the older players. And anyone who says contrary is a Noob hater who wants to control everything instead of giving everyone a fair chance. That might have been what was intended, but these days a lot of players never even leave high sec. Ever. They grind missions or mine, and when they get the stuff they want, they quit. Eve is different to alot of other games out there because you can spend the entire game in the newbie areas and still get lots of money and gear. I can fully understand people suiciding other people in high sec. Personally I dont very much feel like going to low sec or 0.0 either these days. Either you spend several hours trying to get a fight, or you die instantly in a gank somewhere. Its pretty boring, and compared to that, suicide attacks are fun. Eve is meant to be played in a corp with other players, but there are lots of casual players who dont play a lot. I think those are the ones who enjoys quick ganks and making suicide attacks. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune
Jarna Amarr Eve University	Posted - 2007.05.26 17:45:00 - [5] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 26/05/2007 17:39:50 Edited by: Jim McGregor on 26/05/2007 17:39:08 Originally by: Jarna The reason for HiSec is to give new players a safer environment to "Catch Up" with the older players. And anyone who says contrary is a Noob hater who wants to control everything instead of giving everyone a fair chance. That might have been what was intended, but these days a lot of players never even leave high sec. Ever. They grind missions or mine, and when they get the stuff they want, they quit. I can fully understand people suiciding other people in high sec. Personally I dont very much feel like going to low sec or 0.0 either these days. Either you spend several hours trying to get a fight, or you die instantly in a gank somewhere. Its pretty boring, and compared to that, suicide attacks are fun. Eve is meant to be played in a corp with other players, but there are lots of casual players who dont play a lot. I think those are the ones who enjoys quick ganks and making suicide attacks. I suppose you're right. Too many people want to just sit in HiSec for the rest of their career. I guess I'm looking at it as a stepping stone because I DO want to PvP and get out into LoSec once I am able. Wasn't thinking of all these other people that are lamers who come into EVE thinkin it will be easy. I've been playing for about 1.5 months. I knew the game wasn't easy, but I didn't realize how long things would take to be good until I setup my skills in EveMon for a recon ship. 78 days, just for the ship. Not including good support skills. Sometime I get discouraged at the time it will take to amount to anything and REALLY be able to PvP, but then I look at it, mebbe someday I will make a name for myself in EVE and it could be worth it in the end.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.05.26 17:47:00 - [6] Originally by: Jarna I've been playing for about 1.5 months. I knew the game wasn't easy, but I didn't realize how long things would take to be good until I setup my skills in EveMon for a recon ship. 78 days, just for the ship. Not including good support skills. Sometime I get discouraged at the time it will take to amount to anything and REALLY be able to PvP, but then I look at it, mebbe someday I will make a name for myself in EVE and it could be worth it in the end. Yeah, everything takes a long time in Eve. But I would get out there in low sec right now if thats what you want. You'll lose less ships later by wasting a few rookie ships out there now when you dont know a lot about the game. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune
Nanobotter Mk2	Posted - 2007.05.26 18:27:00 - [7] Quote: "People do get remprimanded in highsec, they lost their ship guaranteed if they engage in criminal activities" What you said might be remotely true if , they didn;t get paid insurance, and the REWARD for doing so was being able to loot stuff that far exceeds the value of the ship(s) they lost. So the reality is people get REWARDED for doing it not penalized.
Malcanis High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.26 19:12:00 - [8] Originally by: Jarna Edited by: Jarna on 26/05/2007 17:32:55 I do hold to the fact you do stupid things, you get stupid results. However, I do see where people are coming from about this whole HighSec/CONCORD thing. If you can't go through SAFE SPACE without getting killed or at least people getting reprimanded, then WTF is it there for. The reason for HiSec is to give new players a safer environment to "Catch Up" with the older players. And anyone who says contrary is a Noob hater who wants to control everything instead of giving everyone a fair chance. Post of Inspiration The proper solution is to remove the widespread misconception that hi-sec is supposed to be "safe".
Asestorian Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.05.26 19:12:00 - [9] The thing is that noobs can catch up, because a noob won't have (or shouldn't have) anything on them worth suiciding. If they do get suicided, their reaction to it will decide if they can actually live in this game happily or not. --- ---
Magnum III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2007.05.26 20:02:00 - [10] Ganking in hi sec and getting your ship blown up is fine I guess. But Being afraid to go to low sec and defend your self by shooting 1st and or helping a m8 out by not waiting to get shot at 1st is lame. Get rid of sec status keeping you from going back to hi sec.

fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.26 21:16:00 - [11] Empire was never intended to be totally safe. Concordes job is to obliterate the criminals which they do very well. Maybe they could ammend the insurtance so that criminals don't get any but other than that, wise up and play smart. BoB vs the coalition of family values
Devious Syn	Posted - 2007.05.26 21:39:00 - [12] Originally by: Thanos Mortis People do get remprimanded in highsec, they lost their ship guaranteed if they engage in criminal activities Cheap mods and insurance negate this comment
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.05.26 22:01:00 - [13] Originally by: Devious Syn Originally by: Thanos Mortis People do get remprimanded in highsec, they lost their ship guaranteed if they engage in criminal activities Cheap mods and insurance negate this comment No. They don't negate the comment. You do get reprimanded. Your ship gets destroyed almost immediately and you take a security status hit. Please direct your attention to the whine threads about how annoying it is to try to get sec status back up. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Malcanis High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.26 22:30:00 - [14] Originally by: Frug Originally by: Devious Syn Originally by: Thanos Mortis People do get remprimanded in highsec, they lost their ship guaranteed if they engage in criminal activities Cheap mods and insurance negate this comment No. They don't negate the comment. You do get reprimanded. Your ship gets destroyed almost immediately and you take a security status hit. Please direct your attention to the whine threads about how annoying it is to try to get sec status back up. Perhaps CONCORD shut cut to the chase: blow up the offenders' ships - all of them -, then remove all his ISK, then delete his account and all his alts. Then kill his dog. And have his car towed. And burn his house down.
Thanos Draicon	Posted - 2007.05.27 00:02:00 - [15] Originally by: Malcanis Perhaps CONCORD shut cut to the chase: blow up the offenders' ships - all of them -, then remove all his ISK, then delete his account and all his alts. Then kill his dog. And have his car towed. And burn his house down. YES.
Redpants Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation	Posted - 2007.05.27 00:14:00 - [16] Originally by: Jarna The reason for HiSec is to give new players a safer environment to "Catch Up" with the older players. And anyone who says contrary is a Noob hater who wants to control everything instead of giving everyone a fair chance. [url="http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=526567" Post of Inspiration[/url] No you're wrong. STFU. You've got some big ones to declare not only what you think High Sec is designed for but you're so right that anybody who disagrees is a "Noob" hater. "My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red."
Caios Caldari Unified Refining Federation Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.27 02:58:00 - [17] Hi-sec's not a "noobie area." EVE basically has no noobie area, just a 5 hour tutorial . There's nothing wrong with always playing under the watch of Concord so long as there's an understanding that they aren't fallible.
Pewpewdude	Posted - 2007.05.27 03:01:00 - [18] I escaped concord once. I rule.


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