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Hypatia Iola
Caldari
Central Defiance
Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.05.27 04:07:00 -
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Edited by: Hypatia Iola on 27/05/2007 04:07:45
Personally i enjoy smoking as a liesure activity (talking tobacco here) and smoke a pipe, along with hookah, (ZOMG hookah) and was wondering, anyone have preferred types of nicotine intake?
personally nothing beats cherry/mint hookah mix for me, followed closely by a pipe of Devils'd Holiday tobacco, any afficionados amongst the Eve-rs?
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Nekuva
The SMITE Brotherhood
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.27 04:25:00 -
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I haven't smoked in 11 days and I'm trying to keep it that way.
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One does not simply log in to Jita.
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari
Central Defiance
Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.05.27 04:31:00 -
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ah well, good on ya man, cold turkey is tough. personally unless all the tobacco in the world up and smokes itself i view it as my sacred duty to make it easier for you by smoking too much for you to get access... i'm by no means saying anyone out there SHOULD smoke if they don't want to, but i really disagree with the whole "smoking is ebbil" standpoint, i smoke only in my own home, and those of my friends who smoke(all but one of them heh) so secondhand isn't really an issue.
anyhoo, c'mon i know there have to be people here who enjoy good tobacco.
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari
High4Life
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.27 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: Hypatia Iola
Edited by: Hypatia Iola on 27/05/2007 04:07:45
Personally i enjoy smoking as a liesure activity (talking tobacco here) and smoke a pipe, along with hookah, (ZOMG hookah) and was wondering, anyone have preferred types of nicotine intake?
personally nothing beats cherry/mint hookah mix for me, followed closely by a pipe of Devils'd Holiday tobacco, any afficionados amongst the Eve-rs?
Cigs and cigars.
Hookahs are nice too, but I don't want to lay out that much cash for an infrequent hobby.
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Lal QelThyr
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.27 07:37:00 -
[5]
Tea Leaves. Hardcore 
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xRazoRx
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.05.27 07:44:00 -
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Cigs (muratti lights ftw) and w33d.
Death is only the beginning... |
Xrak
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:14:00 -
[7]
I'd rather not smell like a hobo, so I dont.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lal QelThyr
Tea Leaves. Hardcore
Tobacco is sooooo last century.
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:57:00 -
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last night, Cigars! me and my good chum went through a few packs 
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Eshtir
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.05.27 10:16:00 -
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A cold turkey is not hard btw. The detox of nicotine in your body takes 24 hours. After that you are "clean" of nicotine.
Ps: Playing with pens helps when you want to smoke a ciggy.
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Bishop 5
Gallente
Macabre Votum
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.05.27 10:25:00 -
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Golden Virginia and lots of it. :/
P.S. The Golden Vag' rollies usually have a bit of extra spice in 'em. 
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Visionsz
Caldari
Midas Tycho
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Posted - 2007.05.27 11:11:00 -
[12]
Dirty smelly habit... o yeah ex-smoker
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Wild Rho
Amarr
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.05.27 11:41:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Lal QelThyr
Tea Leaves. Hardcore
*salutes
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Wanten
RONA Corporation
RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.27 11:56:00 -
[14]
used to smoke golden vaginia, but i stopped about a month ago and havnt looked back, its not so much a physical addiction its a mental one, those times when you would usually smoke and all that.
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Crise
Minmatar
Pelennor Swarm
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Posted - 2007.05.27 12:05:00 -
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I use to chew like a maniac. The more time behind the keyboard the more I would chew. I decided I didn't want to pay 5 bucks a can when I was going through 2-3 cans a week but I needed something. So I picked up a pipe. After a couple weeks learning how to really apreciate good tobacco I tried a few cigars again. I love a good smoke.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.05.27 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Eshtir
A cold turkey is not hard btw. The detox of nicotine in your body takes 24 hours. After that you are "clean" of nicotine.
Ps: Playing with pens helps when you want to smoke a ciggy.
Yeah, that's the problem really isn't it? It's not the presence of nicotine that makes one an addict, it's the lack of it.
It's two weeks to get over some substance you're body doesn't need.
Like with sugar. Two weeks for cells to realise "Hey, we didn't need that."
Also it's a mental battle, which effects the body aswell.
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ZuN3
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.05.27 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: ZuN3 on 27/05/2007 12:46:00
Rollies, Golden Virginia. Weed. Blue rizla ftw also. 
I'm not really looking forward to the smoking ban (in England). Sitting in a pub with a nice cold pint, and no**** just seems wrong. ]:
Can't say****  . Cigarette, then.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.27 13:11:00 -
[18]
Originally by: ZuN3
Edited by: ZuN3 on 27/05/2007 12:46:00
Rollies, Golden Virginia. Weed. Blue rizla ftw also.
I'm not really looking forward to the smoking ban (in England). Sitting in a pub with a nice cold pint, and no**** just seems wrong. ]:
Can't say**** . Cigarette, then.
As a non-smoker, I'm entirely the opposite. Nothing ruins the flavour of a good ale than a lung full of smoke. It'll be nice when I can sit in a pub and not be bathed in other people's tar.
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Bishop 5
Gallente
Macabre Votum
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.05.27 13:20:00 -
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smoking ban ftl.
can't have a smoke with a pint? i feel lots of fights breaking out due to overly stressed smokers (probably only when it rains tho)
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari
Central Defiance
Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.05.27 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Hypatia Iola on 27/05/2007 14:38:32
I believe eddie izzard said it best "No smoking in bars now, and soon no drinking and no talking"
actually i do understand the ban somewhat, but i'm of the opinion that if a business owner wants to allow smoking on his own property he ought to be able to.
but what do i know?
anyway Starbuzz Tobacco is nice in teh hookah if anyone cares, best brand i've had thus far...
and for those of you who don't smoke, good for you, honestly this isn't intended as a flame but your opinion doesn't apply here, this is intended as a thread for those who DO smoke to discuss specific tobaccoes that some have liked so people have a list of "to try" things. thanks for posting all the same!
BTW IQ140 Cavendish = FTW too...
edit and for the record cold turkey varies a lot from person to person. i periodically get deployed and often am not allowed to take my tobacco with me... military hates pipes and i hate cigarettes (they taste like hairy butt IMHO) and thus: i have to cold turkey frequently, i have no problem with it, many many people however have a BIG problem doing it, becaus eyou feel like crap all the time while you're adjusting and it's SOOOO easy to just pick up a cig and feel better.
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Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2007.05.27 14:48:00 -
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Cannabis.
Probably would smoke tobacco but I lost my entire immediate family to cancer in a very short period.. so I don't think getting addicted to them will ever be a problem for me.
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.27 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: ZuN3
Edited by: ZuN3 on 27/05/2007 12:46:00
Rollies, Golden Virginia. Weed. Blue rizla ftw also.
I'm not really looking forward to the smoking ban (in England). Sitting in a pub with a nice cold pint, and no**** just seems wrong. ]:
Can't say**** . Cigarette, then.
As a non-smoker, I'm entirely the opposite. Nothing ruins the flavour of a good ale than a lung full of smoke. It'll be nice when I can sit in a pub and not be bathed in other people's tar.
Definitely :)
Originally by: Phoenixhawk
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Niton Stormrider
HCD
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Posted - 2007.05.27 16:47:00 -
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American Spirits, organic blend. Proof you can have a smoke that doesn't taste like ass, if you just refrain from adding cyanide and fulking formaldahyde to it. Of course, The Oregon State Legislature just passed a no smoking in bars law too, so in a few weeks I won't be able to head to my neighborhood bar for a whiskey on the rocks and a smoke. Tragic. Guess I'll just play EvE more.
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John McDuff
Caldari
Jovian Labs
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.27 16:55:00 -
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Lucky strike red, must be the best cuz it keeps failing me to stop :P
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Vari
Carbide Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.27 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Frank Horrigan
Cannabis.
Wewt!
And maybe some hookah too.
I'm an opponent of cigarettes, never smoked one ever
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Pitt
Gallente
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.05.27 17:45:00 -
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I find it amazing that the people who smoke w33d for the most part are opposed to tobacco. Smoking that is bad for you too. No? The first time you smoked it did you cough? then it's bad for you.
Secondly, if you don't like smokers or smoking in general fine. But, there's no need to post about it here. I don't post in the "what's your favorite beer?" thread with "beer taste's like ****". So why come here and spread your political agenda on those of us who do enjoy a good smoke.
As for my tobacco of choice it would be 555's, dunhill's, or a good romeo cigar. Not high brow smoke by any means, but good none the less.
And no, I don't smoke w33d or drink beer. 
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Posted - 2007.05.27 18:27:00 -
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romy y juliet churchills here for when im out and about, otherwise it'l be a strong blended cuban.
and never a hamlet there like cardboard
thank god japans still fine for bars and smoking, i guess when you live on a fault line smokings the last thing on your mind
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ZuN3
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.05.27 18:58:00 -
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I *may* however try and quit tobacco when the smoking ban comes in. Probably not though. :/
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smashsmash
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Posted - 2007.05.27 19:07:00 -
[29]
people should pick their battles well and don't burn their bridges either.
in conclusion, chicken pot pie are my favorite three things.
Originally by: Pitt
I find it amazing that the people who smoke w33d for the most part are opposed to tobacco. Smoking that is bad for you too. No? The first time you smoked it did you cough? then it's bad for you.
Secondly, if you don't like smokers or smoking in general fine. But, there's no need to post about it here. I don't post in the "what's your favorite beer?" thread with "beer taste's like ****". So why come here and spread your political agenda on those of us who do enjoy a good smoke.
As for my tobacco of choice it would be 555's, dunhill's, or a good romeo cigar. Not high brow smoke by any means, but good none the less.
And no, I don't smoke w33d or drink beer.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.05.27 22:55:00 -
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Cigarretes are bad for you. So I'm on a quest to get rid of them all and make the world a healtier place. Every cig I smoke is a cig less in the world
Brand, usually Newport. Sometimes a year I get a box of some of these brands with cloves... Sampoerna or Djarum. When the money is short, whatever will do.
I enjoy having my 'victory cigarrete' after a good executed worlds colide level 4.
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari
Central Defiance
Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.05.27 23:05:00 -
[31]
Edited by: Hypatia Iola on 27/05/2007 23:05:23
yeah, smoking a pipe requires a bit of finesse(took me almost a month to get it right)
basically it works like this:
set your tobacco in 3 layers, the first is at the bottom, very loosely packed
the second, slightly tighter, will compress the first.
the third will press the other 2 down. a well-packed pipe should have a litttle bit of a tough pull, almost like a cigar(little lighter though) when you smoke it,
anyway, until you get the bowl properly caked it won't be easy to keep the thing lit(the carbon buildup on the sides of the pipe are amazing insulation)
and for the love of god don't inhale, it WILL make you sick if you're not used to smoking unfiltered
there you are
edit and by the way make sure when you smoke it you actively press down after the cherry has burned through each layer...
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Locus Bey
Gallente
Qalandar
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Posted - 2007.05.27 23:10:00 -
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Gauloises when I smoke cigs.
Pipe, a mixture of Cavendish and Virginian tobaccos with either a Pistachio or Nougat flavouring.
Cigarillos of various assortments.
I think the ban is great, a good percentage of bars etc will have outdoor facilities for smokers, which is fine. Wish they would get rid of all the bloody chemicals in tobacco though, it's outreageous the crap in them.
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
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Posted - 2007.05.28 02:43:00 -
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Erinmore tobacco in my pipe when I can't get down to my tobacconist for some spec. stuff. Gauloises when I can get them.
Here, they're about to ban smoking on OUTDOOR patios 
I got used to the no-smoking indoors thing, but the no smoking on outdoor patios sounds... well.. really stupid.
I plan to stand by the door with a really cheap cigar, just to **** them off
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 09/02/2007 23:20:58
But come on, at least give the devs a chance to fire t20. 
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Dearwin
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.05.28 03:45:00 -
[34]
So much fancy smoking going on...
I personally like the disgustingly strong and nasty stuff..
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Soren
PAK
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Posted - 2007.05.28 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Pitt
I find it amazing that the people who smoke w33d for the most part are opposed to tobacco. Smoking that is bad for you too. No? The first time you smoked it did you cough? then it's bad for you.
Secondly, if you don't like smokers or smoking in general fine. But, there's no need to post about it here. I don't post in the "what's your favorite beer?" thread with "beer taste's like ****". So why come here and spread your political agenda on those of us who do enjoy a good smoke.
As for my tobacco of choice it would be 555's, dunhill's, or a good romeo cigar. Not high brow smoke by any means, but good none the less.
And no, I don't smoke w33d or drink beer.
OMG DON'T SMOKE PLZ!!
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Captain Batou
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.28 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: Soren
Originally by: Pitt
I find it amazing that the people who smoke w33d for the most part are opposed to tobacco. Smoking that is bad for you too. No? The first time you smoked it did you cough? then it's bad for you.
Secondly, if you don't like smokers or smoking in general fine. But, there's no need to post about it here. I don't post in the "what's your favorite beer?" thread with "beer taste's like ****". So why come here and spread your political agenda on those of us who do enjoy a good smoke.
As for my tobacco of choice it would be 555's, dunhill's, or a good romeo cigar. Not high brow smoke by any means, but good none the less.
And no, I don't smoke w33d or drink beer.
OMG DON'T SMOKE PLZ!!
Camel Lights and a coors light, Hillbilly style!!!!
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Altai Saker
Omniscient Order
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.05.28 09:43:00 -
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Marlboros and weed. Menthol too.
THC cuts lung cancer growth by 50% I'll look up the study if no one else will.
http://www.omniscient-order.com/
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Michayel Lyon
The Corporation
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.05.28 10:27:00 -
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Carrots.
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XenoPagan
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
Khanid Provincial Authority
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Posted - 2007.05.28 13:47:00 -
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Rockets 40 - pack of smaller-sized cigs, 40 in one pack - especially good on a night out when alcohol makes you want to smoke more often
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sycokill
Caldari
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.28 15:03:00 -
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I love Sheesha (aka hookah), only do it about once a month though my favourite flavour has to be mint + lychee (pretty much mint + anything tastes good ). Ive tried cigs but they taste like **** 
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Thuul'Khalat
Gallente
Phoenix Wing
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.05.28 19:36:00 -
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Marlboro Reds... far too many of'em
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Tarquin Tarquinius
Gallente
Escorts of Eve
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Posted - 2007.05.28 20:15:00 -
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I've never smoked, caffein is my drug of choice, but most of my friends smoke Malboro 100s or Newports. I also have an uncle that buys indian tobacco (tax free) and rolls his own.
IMO a ban on smoking in bars violates the rights of the property owners. Property was one of those "natural" and "inalienable" rights that John Locke and America's founder's where big on. It doesn't make me happy to see that our "inalienable rights" are no longer "inalienable."
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.05.28 21:10:00 -
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I have no distinct desire to die wretched on my side coughing up bloody/black pieces of my lungs at the ripe age of ~50. Smoking is one of the stupidest things someone can start doing, because once your body gets hooked, its literally painful for you to stop.
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Tarquin Tarquinius
Gallente
Escorts of Eve
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Posted - 2007.05.28 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 28/05/2007 22:15:58
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
I have no distinct desire to die wretched on my side coughing up bloody/black pieces of my lungs at the ripe age of ~50. Smoking is one of the stupidest things someone can start doing, because once your body gets hooked, its literally painful for you to stop.
That's your choice and smokers have made theirs. Personnally I think playing Russian Roulette, doing ****** or cocain, and eating at McDonalds are more stupid. They'll certainly kill you a lot faster.
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PKlavins
Caldari
3rdlane Industries
Dark Wolf Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.28 22:34:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
I have no distinct desire to die wretched on my side coughing up bloody/black pieces of my lungs at the ripe age of ~50. Smoking is one of the stupidest things someone can start doing, because once your body gets hooked, its literally painful for you to stop.
QFT. i dont get why people even start it...:roll:...o well. personally im rooting for a global ban on cigarettes everywhere, screw the economic consequences, we'll all live a lot longer and fewer people in hospital coughing their lungs out.
go ahead, flame me...or should i say...'light me up'
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.05.28 22:36:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius
Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 28/05/2007 22:15:58
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
I have no distinct desire to die wretched on my side coughing up bloody/black pieces of my lungs at the ripe age of ~50. Smoking is one of the stupidest things someone can start doing, because once your body gets hooked, its literally painful for you to stop.
That's your choice and smokers have made theirs. Personnally I think playing Russian Roulette, doing ****** or cocain, and eating at McDonalds are more stupid. They'll certainly kill you a lot faster.
The minute someone with aids shoots themselves in the head, spraying their infected blood onto my mucus membranes while eating a big mac laced with *******, you will have an argument. As it stands, I have to walk through their smoke clouds to get in the front door. I have to step on their cigarette butts they throw on the floor. I have to listen to them cough up phelgm the size of housecats.
If you want to kill yourself, you're right, its your choice. So put a ******* plastic bag over your head, and smoke all you want. Don't drag me down with you, thanks.
BTW, if you want to get that nicotine fix, chewing tobacco does the same thing, and it doesn't affect me; unless of course you spit on the ground, infront of me.
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Locus Bey
Gallente
Qalandar
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Posted - 2007.05.28 22:48:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius
Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 28/05/2007 22:15:58
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
I have no distinct desire to die wretched on my side coughing up bloody/black pieces of my lungs at the ripe age of ~50. Smoking is one of the stupidest things someone can start doing, because once your body gets hooked, its literally painful for you to stop.
That's your choice and smokers have made theirs. Personnally I think playing Russian Roulette, doing ****** or cocain, and eating at McDonalds are more stupid. They'll certainly kill you a lot faster.
The minute someone with aids shoots themselves in the head, spraying their infected blood onto my mucus membranes while eating a big mac laced with *******, you will have an argument. As it stands, I have to walk through their smoke clouds to get in the front door. I have to step on their cigarette butts they throw on the floor. I have to listen to them cough up phelgm the size of housecats.
If you want to kill yourself, you're right, its your choice. So put a ******* plastic bag over your head, and smoke all you want. Don't drag me down with you, thanks.
BTW, if you want to get that nicotine fix, chewing tobacco does the same thing, and it doesn't affect me; unless of course you spit on the ground, infront of me.
While where at it, let's ban alcohol. I have to walk through their [insert: drunken activity of choice] to get in the front door. I have to step on their broken bottles thrown on the floor. I have to listen to them throw up last nights [insert: food of choice] the size of housecats.
If you want to kill yourself, your right, it's your choice. So put a ffing cask bag over your head, and drink all you want. Don't drag me down with you, thanks.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.05.28 22:51:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Locus Bey
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius
Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 28/05/2007 22:15:58
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
I have no distinct desire to die wretched on my side coughing up bloody/black pieces of my lungs at the ripe age of ~50. Smoking is one of the stupidest things someone can start doing, because once your body gets hooked, its literally painful for you to stop.
That's your choice and smokers have made theirs. Personnally I think playing Russian Roulette, doing ****** or cocain, and eating at McDonalds are more stupid. They'll certainly kill you a lot faster.
The minute someone with aids shoots themselves in the head, spraying their infected blood onto my mucus membranes while eating a big mac laced with *******, you will have an argument. As it stands, I have to walk through their smoke clouds to get in the front door. I have to step on their cigarette butts they throw on the floor. I have to listen to them cough up phelgm the size of housecats.
If you want to kill yourself, you're right, its your choice. So put a ******* plastic bag over your head, and smoke all you want. Don't drag me down with you, thanks.
BTW, if you want to get that nicotine fix, chewing tobacco does the same thing, and it doesn't affect me; unless of course you spit on the ground, infront of me.
While where at it, let's ban alcohol. I have to walk through their [insert: drunken activity of choice] to get in the front door. I have to step on their broken bottles thrown on the floor. I have to listen to them throw up last nights [insert: food of choice] the size of housecats.
If you want to kill yourself, your right, it's your choice. So put a ffing cask bag over your head, and drink all you want. Don't drag me down with you, thanks.
I don't drink, so /signed.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.28 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: Patch86 on 28/05/2007 23:09:05
Originally by: Locus Bey
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius
Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 28/05/2007 22:15:58
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
I have no distinct desire to die wretched on my side coughing up bloody/black pieces of my lungs at the ripe age of ~50. Smoking is one of the stupidest things someone can start doing, because once your body gets hooked, its literally painful for you to stop.
That's your choice and smokers have made theirs. Personnally I think playing Russian Roulette, doing ****** or cocain, and eating at McDonalds are more stupid. They'll certainly kill you a lot faster.
The minute someone with aids shoots themselves in the head, spraying their infected blood onto my mucus membranes while eating a big mac laced with *******, you will have an argument. As it stands, I have to walk through their smoke clouds to get in the front door. I have to step on their cigarette butts they throw on the floor. I have to listen to them cough up phelgm the size of housecats.
If you want to kill yourself, you're right, its your choice. So put a ******* plastic bag over your head, and smoke all you want. Don't drag me down with you, thanks.
BTW, if you want to get that nicotine fix, chewing tobacco does the same thing, and it doesn't affect me; unless of course you spit on the ground, infront of me.
While where at it, let's ban alcohol. I have to walk through their [insert: drunken activity of choice] to get in the front door. I have to step on their broken bottles thrown on the floor. I have to listen to them throw up last nights [insert: food of choice] the size of housecats.
If you want to kill yourself, your right, it's your choice. So put a ffing cask bag over your head, and drink all you want. Don't drag me down with you, thanks.
If sitting next to someone who was drinking meant that you were forced to drink too, you'd have a point. When someone sits next to me and puffs on a ciggy, I'm inhaling and tasting the smoke almost as much as they are. When someone sips a pint sat next to you, do you taste the beer and feel drunk?
[Sorry for the thread hijack OP, but I felt the burning desire to reply to that one. Maybe the mods could *snip* all the smoking ban related posts (including this one)?]
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Gallente
Escorts of Eve
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Posted - 2007.05.28 23:48:00 -
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So who is tieing you up and blowing smoke in your face?
If someone is near you smoking you can always leave.
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Posted - 2007.05.29 00:00:00 -
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You guys are all wrong. Smoking is not really bad. The whole thing is just another goverment conspiracy. See, it was getting expensive to provide cigs for soldiers at war so the goverment decided to make up a health issue to avoid the cig related expenses... that's all.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.29 00:08:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius
So who is tieing you up and blowing smoke in your face?
If someone is near you smoking you can always leave.
So what you're saying is we can either ban smokers from pubs, or (effectively) ban non-smokers from pubs? In which case, I think the majority rules
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Miriyana
Gallente
Galactic Savings and Investments
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Posted - 2007.05.29 00:50:00 -
[53]
Shishas, Marlboro, MJ
not often but yeah
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Neescha
Interstellar Operations Incorporated
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.05.29 01:10:00 -
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oh, that old "which drugs to ban" discussion again.
alcohol should be banned, it is by FAR more addictive than pot, and the effects of alcoholism are one of the worst of all drugs, but it's accepted by society, so lets deal with it.
@topic:
when i'm drunk and I'm near to someone I know who is smoking, i "ask" him to share, so i'm a party/drunk smoker.
otherwise i fire up my hookah every 1-2 days. best tobaco is the "havannah" orange ihmo. most orange tobacos suck, but this one is just awesome!
i live in germany, so it's kinda hard to get good hookah/shisha tobaco (we have a stupid law that only alowes 5% of glycerine in the tobaco, so it won't smoke), but my father travels to saudi arabia regualry, so i'm off the hook :D
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Miriyana
Gallente
Galactic Savings and Investments
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Posted - 2007.05.29 01:13:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Neescha
oh, that old "which drugs to ban" discussion again.
alcohol should be banned, it is by FAR more addictive than pot, and the effects of alcoholism are one of the worst of all drugs, but it's accepted by society, so lets deal with it.
@topic:
when i'm drunk and I'm near to someone I know who is smoking, i "ask" him to share, so i'm a party/drunk smoker.
otherwise i fire up my hookah every 1-2 days. best tobaco is the "havannah" orange ihmo. most orange tobacos suck, but this one is just awesome!
i live in germany, so it's kinda hard to get good hookah/shisha tobaco (we have a stupid law that only alowes 5% of glycerine in the tobaco, so it won't smoke), but my father travels to saudi arabia regualry, so i'm off the hook :D
Nice will have to keep an eye out for havannah orange in the shops here.
We have water melon :)
Caramel is crapz0r
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Posted - 2007.05.29 01:14:00 -
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I refuse to buy any so i smoke whatever is free and if i don't find anything i don't smoke.
Was quite a good setup considering i worked at a Coffee Shop, lots of variety. Now that i don't i havn't had anything in ages and i have days where i just think "Could use a smoke" although not many, usually when im particulaly ****ed off about something.
<3 Camel tho.
Originally by: Benglada
And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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Posted - 2007.05.29 01:31:00 -
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Oh yeah, this is a thread for me. I love smoking, so I do it a lot. Normally I smoke ciggies but sometimes I smoke pipe, and a cigar if I'm celebrating something. Few things beats turkish coffee an a hookah during hot summer nights (I'll have to try the mint/lichee mixture). And when some fascist bully boy tells me I can't smoke I do moist snuff instead.
"It's just a ride"
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Kemono.
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Posted - 2007.05.29 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Blind Man on 29/05/2007 01:50:49
nothing, and never will, stupidity level isn't high enough I'm afraid 
I personally have some friends that smoke and when they get really sick from it I'll have a tough time feeling sorry for them..
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Neescha
Interstellar Operations Incorporated
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.05.29 02:09:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Neescha on 29/05/2007 02:08:44
Originally by: Miriyana
Originally by: Neescha
oh, that old "which drugs to ban" discussion again.
alcohol should be banned, it is by FAR more addictive than pot, and the effects of alcoholism are one of the worst of all drugs, but it's accepted by society, so lets deal with it.
@topic:
when i'm drunk and I'm near to someone I know who is smoking, i "ask" him to share, so i'm a party/drunk smoker.
otherwise i fire up my hookah every 1-2 days. best tobaco is the "havannah" orange ihmo. most orange tobacos suck, but this one is just awesome!
i live in germany, so it's kinda hard to get good hookah/shisha tobaco (we have a stupid law that only alowes 5% of glycerine in the tobaco, so it won't smoke), but my father travels to saudi arabia regualry, so i'm off the hook :D
Nice will have to keep an eye out for havannah orange in the shops here.
We have water melon :)
Caramel is crapz0r
try it, you won't be disapoitned. it tastes "fresher" than most mint tobacos :D
Originally by: Mr M
Oh yeah, this is a thread for me. I love smoking, so I do it a lot. Normally I smoke ciggies but sometimes I smoke pipe, and a cigar if I'm celebrating something. Few things beats turkish coffee an a hookah during hot summer nights (I'll have to try the mint/lichee mixture). And when some fascist bully boy tells me I can't smoke I do moist snuff instead.
"It's just a ride"
hell yeah, last summer when we were in italy:
night+beach+hookah/shisha/+rum+ennio morricone=unbeatable
shisha+some decent amount of alcohol+some really good music is just perfect to end an evening.
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Posted - 2007.05.29 02:31:00 -
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I felt the need to ilustrate:
shisha
hookah
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Constantinee
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.05.29 04:33:00 -
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candeh ciggartes!
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Minmatar
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.29 06:52:00 -
[62]
Prince lights.
Now, I know what you're thinking. Cigarettes with a name like Prince Lights can't be awesome and manly, right? But you're wrong. Dead wrong.
Prince lights. The best thing that ever came out of Denmark.
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Neescha
Interstellar Operations Incorporated
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.05.29 07:36:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Shameless Avenger
I felt the need to ilustrate:
shisha
hookah
well, in germany the actuall pipe is called shisha (and since some friends of mine bought theirs in israel, and there they were also called shisha) i stick with that.
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Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2007.05.29 08:22:00 -
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Well , I love to smoke pipe.Kinda hard to find the tobacco for pipe smoking here tho on Maracaibo , only two stores that sell it . I usually go with a regular virginia blend mixed with either Nutty Vanilla or Apple flavored tobacco. And like a previous poster said, it takes a while for you to learn how to smoke it properly. I hate cigarrettes, to me they taste like utter crap :P , but then again, to each his own. I only smoke rarely, when I feel the need for peace of mind and profound meditation or thinking, got the habit off my granddad , whom I remember holding a pipe in his pocket all the time. The hookah's are somewhat known here in certain establishments but we call them "Argils" dunno, where that term comes from tho :/ .
Smoking is an art, and there are sooo many ways to smoke anything that is flammable :), I stick to my trusty pipe, next time im abroad will try to buy more types of tobacco (only 5 or 6 flavors available here hehe) any reccomendations btw? I like soft flavors that give the air around me a pleasant smell and a good aftertaste in my mouth.
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StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.05.29 11:03:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 29/05/2007 11:01:52
i started smoking again after 3 months of giving up this weekend. :(
deciding to only buy the cheapest, nastiest cigs on the market to dissuade me from continuing to smoke, and i managed to smoke 2 and a half packs of Sovereign, 3 packs of mayfair superkings and a packet of Richmond superkings.
i really fancy a cigarette now, so it's clearly not worked.
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Emeline Cabernet
Amarr
KVA Noble Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.29 11:51:00 -
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id rather not smell the city and smell like a homo so i do.
and i smoke price mild.
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Nuala Reece
Caldari
Starlancers
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.05.29 13:18:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Nuala Reece on 29/05/2007 13:17:54
Edited by: Nuala Reece on 29/05/2007 13:17:24
Originally by: Emeline Cabernet
id rather not smell the city and smell like a homo so i do.
and i smoke price mild.
Smell like a homo? hoping that's just a typo
Stopped smoking cigarettes years ago as they're generally cheap, nasty, full of ridiculously dangerous chemicals for flavour and to pad them out. If the tobacco doesn't taste good on it's own it shouldn't be smoked. Now I'm a very occassional cigar smoker - luckily we're allowed Cuban cigars in the UK although I prefer some of the Dominican ones myself.
My favourite gripe with the non smoking ban here (we've had it for a year in Scotland now and, tbh, the pubs are better off for it) is from the the local tobacconist. He makes his own blends of tobacco for pipes but is now not allowed to test them or allow customers to try them in the shop as it's a workplace. banning smoking in pubs and restaurants is one thing but banning smoking in a tobacconist's seems a little odd
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari
Central Defiance
Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.05.29 16:14:00 -
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let's at least attempt not to turn this into
"I don't smoke and neither should you!"
I do smoke and here's why i should be allowed to"
thread if we can avoid it.
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Professor Feelgood
Caldari
Union Jack Purists Cult
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Posted - 2007.05.29 16:21:00 -
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In Soviet Russia, vodka smokes YOU!
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Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2007.05.29 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Eshtir
A cold turkey is not hard btw. The detox of nicotine in your body takes 24 hours. After that you are "clean" of nicotine.
Ps: Playing with pens helps when you want to smoke a ciggy.
Is that true? About the 24hr thing I mean? If that's the case, wouldn't that make nicotine replacements a crutch rather than a cure?
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Posted - 2007.05.29 16:23:00 -
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basically, yeah. but i think its closer to 3 days.
the real problem is the psychological need anyway. smoking when you go out drinking, for example.
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Galk
Gallente
Autumn Tactics
All the things she said
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Posted - 2007.05.29 16:28:00 -
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Marlboro's
Reds, but im a little bit impartial to menthols from time to time.
Winstons arn't that bad either, but not something id smoke on a regular basis.
Tbh there's not much you can realy smoke after smoking marlboro's for a few years, unique flavour i enjoy that no other brand comes close to.... for me anyway.
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tarisai hsaun
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Frank Horrigan
Cannabis.
Probably would smoke tobacco but I lost my entire immediate family to cancer in a very short period.. so I don't think getting addicted to them will ever be a problem for me.
you do realise cannabis has more carconegenics than 'baccy?
i'm sure you don't smoke as many spliffs as say, i do ciggs, but it's a fact alot of people seem to have missed when saying "i stay away from baccy: it aint clean if it aint green".
however, i do live by said motto
copious amounts of green for me thanks. and i smoke Drum Gold rolling 'baccy, which i must have aquired the taste for as most of my mates think it tastes like crap.
as soon as i have grey in my beard (which'll be a while...need to be able to grow a beard first), i'll be smoking a pipe: just can't pull off the look atm
the smoking ban in scotland hasn't been as bad as i thought. it's actually quite nice to sit in a pub with clean air, then go outside for a quick smoke and pop back in again.
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VanNostrum
Cataphract Securities
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.05.30 02:28:00 -
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nargile, cigs and weed
tho i do the weed and nargile once or twice a month i smoke everyday, and lots
i quit smoking 2 months ago, didnt smoke for a month and started again out of boredom
anyway, my favorite flavors for nargile are water melon and banana
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tarisai hsaun
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 02:33:00 -
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yeah, banana sheesha is excellent.
been ages since i've been able to smoke a hookah, cause the tea house which used to have them got rid of them 'cause of the smoking ban
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
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Posted - 2007.05.30 04:54:00 -
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good god, I went away and when I came back -tobacco-is-the-devil- reared its ugly head.
Guys, why post in an obviously pro-smoking thread if it ****es you off so much.. this is OOG stuff anyways, so it's even less 'important' than the usual discussions that are going on.
Seriously, just ... chill....
Originally by: Dark Shikari
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Edited by: Fellet on 30/05/2007 15:02:46
marlboro/lucky strike both light btw
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Posted - 2007.05.30 15:40:00 -
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I roll my own mostly, either Amber Leaf or Golden Virginia (frequently mixed with cannabis )
When I buy 'em it's usually Richmond or Sovereign.
Although I've not seen them in years I used to smoke Death. Jet black packet with a big while skull on the front. I always found this funny for some reason
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Spaced Skunk
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Xrak
I'd rather not smell like a hobo with yellow eyes and nails, so I dont.
Fixed.
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Vari
Carbide Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.30 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Vari on 30/05/2007 18:19:26
Originally by: tarisai hsaun
you do realise cannabis has more carconegenics than 'baccy?
Whoah. Please. People who smoke cannabis burn WAY less material than when smoking tobacco. And don't get started with cigarettes. It's hard to tell how many additives they add to them, think of them as a McDonald's hamburger of tobacco. Except you're burning it all.
And research has shown that THC is an effective treatment for inhibiting cancer tumors. How big a dose you need, I dunno, but it is.
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Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Shalia Ripper
Originally by: Hypatia Iola
Edited by: Hypatia Iola on 27/05/2007 04:07:45
Personally i enjoy smoking as a liesure activity (talking tobacco here) and smoke a pipe, along with hookah, (ZOMG hookah) and was wondering, anyone have preferred types of nicotine intake?
personally nothing beats cherry/mint hookah mix for me, followed closely by a pipe of Devils'd Holiday tobacco, any afficionados amongst the Eve-rs?
Cigs and cigars.
Hookahs are nice too, but I don't want to lay out that much cash for an infrequent hobby.
Those things are cheap as chips if you know who to go to/ask. Get them for around 20 and thats like with 2 x 500g boxes of backy, 100 coles, large base, nice looking main pipe and a rubber hose thats washable and yeh its pretty decent tbfh.
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Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.31 11:34:00 -
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il just buy a gun and shoot my self, it will work out cheaper and i wont have to go through the whole cancer stuff and i wont have to worry about giving cancer to others around me.
Nope starts here actually :O
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Camilo Cienfuegos
Caldari
EP0CH
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Posted - 2007.05.31 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Camilo Cienfuegos on 31/05/2007 12:38:17
Quote:
I'm not really looking forward to the smoking ban
The smoking ban is the most ridiculous thing ever to hit the UK. In Scotland, there is a very simple loophole at present - lockins. Once a pub is locked up for the night it becomes a private establishment, and the ashtrays come out again. Likewise I have a friend who owns a restaurant with a flat upstairs. You want a smoke? Buy the boss a beer, and he'll invite you upstairs to inspect his "record collection".
It's like prohibition all over again - all the smoking ban will do is force smoking "underground" just like prohibition did with drinking. So much for "We live and learn"!
Anyway...
I smoke Embassy #1 (that'd be the good bits of tobacco, before they sc*****the floor to make Regal) and Drum blue with err... yeah...
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tarisai hsaun
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.31 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Vari
Edited by: Vari on 30/05/2007 18:19:26
Originally by: tarisai hsaun
you do realise cannabis has more carconegenics than 'baccy?
Whoah. Please. People who smoke cannabis burn WAY less material than when smoking tobacco. And don't get started with cigarettes. It's hard to tell how many additives they add to them, think of them as a McDonald's hamburger of tobacco. Except you're burning it all.
And research has shown that THC is an effective treatment for inhibiting cancer tumors. How big a dose you need, I dunno, but it is.
yeah, i realise we burn less when smoking cannabis, hence why i said "i doubt you smoke as many spliffs as i do ciggs". but thought i'd give it a mention. alot of people i've met at parties, who try to pull of the "stoner lifestyle" are absolutely oblivious to the fact smoking grass is still smoke, and there are inherent drawbacks to that.
not having a dig at "stoners" btw, i've been smoking grass most of my life upright: just have a chip on my shoulder when it comes to the guys you meet at parties who play "joint politics".
i'm also aware cannabis has many medicinal properties, and i've used it in the past because if migranes and joint pains. however, giving a cancer patient a joint is a little counter productive, as you can still get lung/throat/mouth/whatever cancer from smoke: an extract is better.
and i am also aware of all the **** that goes into ciggs - which just goes to show that even death can taste awesome all tarted up in a little tube that makes us irresistable to all the cool kids. yes!
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Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.05.31 14:16:00 -
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Why people have the urge to come into a clearly pro-smoking thread, and vehemently rant and rave to a bunch of faceless internet people, I shall never know.
Anyway, as a daily nicotine hit I usually smoke Peter Jackson Originals. I'm a student and smoking is forbidden on government property, which puts pipe's out of the question :(
On weekends I'll usually have a few cigars with friends, they are very enjoyable after being stuck with arse flavoured ciggies all week.
Yet to try a Hookah, will look into that. Need a new pipe because my brother sat on mine and broke the shank :(
Also, if I ever have the money, does someone want to join me in smoking this? Linkage
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R'adeh
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.05.31 14:24:00 -
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They opened a friggin' Shisha place next to my workplace...so guess what I smoke
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Posted - 2007.05.31 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit
Originally by: Eshtir
A cold turkey is not hard btw. The detox of nicotine in your body takes 24 hours. After that you are "clean" of nicotine.
Ps: Playing with pens helps when you want to smoke a ciggy.
Is that true? About the 24hr thing I mean? If that's the case, wouldn't that make nicotine replacements a crutch rather than a cure?
It's actually closer to 10 days for the nicotine addiction to gone...
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.31 14:34:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
Edited by: Camilo Cienfuegos on 31/05/2007 12:38:17
Quote:
I'm not really looking forward to the smoking ban
The smoking ban is the most ridiculous thing ever to hit the UK. In Scotland, there is a very simple loophole at present - lockins. Once a pub is locked up for the night it becomes a private establishment, and the ashtrays come out again. Likewise I have a friend who owns a restaurant with a flat upstairs. You want a smoke? Buy the boss a beer, and he'll invite you upstairs to inspect his "record collection".
It's like prohibition all over again - all the smoking ban will do is force smoking "underground" just like prohibition did with drinking. So much for "We live and learn"!
Anyway...
I smoke Embassy #1 (that'd be the good bits of tobacco, before they sc*****the floor to make Regal) and Drum blue with err... yeah...
Thats assuming the point of it is to try and make you stop smoking, like the prohibition. It's not. The government really doesn't mind if you smoke. You ever seen how much of their tax revenue comes from tobacco sales?
The only point of it is to stop non-smokers (particularly workers in pubs and restaurants, who get the real bum deal) being bathed in smoke every time they leave their house. If a smoker wants to smoke in a "non-public place" (like a lock-in), more power to them.
[Again, sorry about the thread hijack. Thats web discussion forums for you, I guess.]
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Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.31 14:46:00 -
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Quote:
The government really doesn't mind if you smoke. You ever seen how much of their tax revenue comes from tobacco sales?
Hell yes, which is why I import at every opportunity. Assuming a 20 a day habit, it's cheaper to fly return to Amsterdam and buy a month's supply of cigarettes which you can then import entirely legally without paying UK tax (provided they are for your own consumption). In my experience, buying just in Schiphol and paying duty there works out at almost half the price they go for in the UK.
As for the intentions? The rhetoric from Holyrood is certainly that of "improving the health of the nation". Humbug.
What gets my goat more than anything though is that an independant truck driver for example cannot smoke in his cab by law (this includes foreign drivers, so be warned!), and should you have workmen in your house you are again obliged by law to smoke outside, as your home has become their workplace, and without exception smoking in the workplace is a civil offence, punishable by a fine. Can you imagine being fined for having a fly puff in your own home?
The reality is they'd probably never catch you out in either scenario - but then I would only suggest means to sidestep the law, not blatantly defy it!
Oh, and I forgot to mention: I'm partial to the occasional Henry Winterman too.
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Posted - 2007.05.31 16:55:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
Quote:
The government really doesn't mind if you smoke. You ever seen how much of their tax revenue comes from tobacco sales?
Hell yes, which is why I import at every opportunity. Assuming a 20 a day habit, it's cheaper to fly return to Amsterdam and buy a month's supply of cigarettes which you can then import entirely legally without paying UK tax (provided they are for your own consumption). In my experience, buying just in Schiphol and paying duty there works out at almost half the price they go for in the UK.
As for the intentions? The rhetoric from Holyrood is certainly that of "improving the health of the nation". Humbug.
What gets my goat more than anything though is that an independant truck driver for example cannot smoke in his cab by law (this includes foreign drivers, so be warned!), and should you have workmen in your house you are again obliged by law to smoke outside, as your home has become their workplace, and without exception smoking in the workplace is a civil offence, punishable by a fine. Can you imagine being fined for having a fly puff in your own home?
The reality is they'd probably never catch you out in either scenario - but then I would only suggest means to sidestep the law, not blatantly defy it!
Oh, and I forgot to mention: I'm partial to the occasional Henry Winterman too.
I cannot help but smile everytime a smoker complains about the government trying to keep them healthy. In a few years, they will whine that they aren't doing enough to keep them alive after a lifetime of selfish indulgence.
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Copine Callmeknau
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.05.31 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
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The government really doesn't mind if you smoke. You ever seen how much of their tax revenue comes from tobacco sales?
Hell yes, which is why I import at every opportunity. Assuming a 20 a day habit, it's cheaper to fly return to Amsterdam and buy a month's supply of cigarettes which you can then import entirely legally without paying UK tax (provided they are for your own consumption). In my experience, buying just in Schiphol and paying duty there works out at almost half the price they go for in the UK.
As for the intentions? The rhetoric from Holyrood is certainly that of "improving the health of the nation". Humbug.
What gets my goat more than anything though is that an independant truck driver for example cannot smoke in his cab by law (this includes foreign drivers, so be warned!), and should you have workmen in your house you are again obliged by law to smoke outside, as your home has become their workplace, and without exception smoking in the workplace is a civil offence, punishable by a fine. Can you imagine being fined for having a fly puff in your own home?
The reality is they'd probably never catch you out in either scenario - but then I would only suggest means to sidestep the law, not blatantly defy it!
Oh, and I forgot to mention: I'm partial to the occasional Henry Winterman too.
I cannot help but smile everytime a smoker complains about the government trying to keep them healthy. In a few years, they will whine that they aren't doing enough to keep them alive after a lifetime of selfish indulgence.
Your opinion is not valid
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Harden the **** up
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Camilo Cienfuegos
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Posted - 2007.06.01 01:10:00 -
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I cannot help but smile everytime a smoker complains about the government trying to keep them healthy. In a few years, they will whine that they aren't doing enough to keep them alive after a lifetime of selfish indulgence.
Forgive my libertarianism - is it so wrong to think that a government should have as little to do with the lives of it's citizens as possible?
I may not like it, but I can understand and to an extent agree with the public ban on smoking, as it comes under the banner of one person infringing upon the "right" to life & liberty of another by dosing them passively with carinogens. That, and my Deuchars really does taste better in a smoke-free environment!
The flipside of course is true; there is no provision available for smokers, and as such the non-smokers infringe upon is in exactly the same way, although admittedly without any drastic effect upon health. What's so wrong about having pubs where one can smoke, and others where you cannot? It could be easily legislated, and given that every smoker's pub would soon turn into an utter dive, it'd probably have a similar outcome in the end.
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Vari
Carbide Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.01 01:25:00 -
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Edited by: Vari on 01/06/2007 01:24:32
Originally by: Copine Callmeknau
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
I cannot help but smile everytime a smoker complains about the government trying to keep them healthy. In a few years, they will whine that they aren't doing enough to keep them alive after a lifetime of selfish indulgence.
Your opinion is not valid
Get out, troll
Don't be so mean to Derovius Vaden. He's just one of those angry and arrogant nerds. God help the normal people who have to deal with him in real life. Just treat him like people in real life would, pretend he's not there.
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Tarquin Tarquinius
Gallente
Escorts of Eve
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Posted - 2007.06.01 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
I cannot help but smile everytime a smoker complains about the government trying to keep them healthy. In a few years, they will whine that they aren't doing enough to keep them alive after a lifetime of selfish indulgence.
It is not the proper roll of government to keep ME healthy. Smoking is no more of a "selfish indulgence" than chocolate, hamburgers, or caffeine. Would you want the government to ban meat and force everyone into a "healthy" vegetarian diet?
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Posted - 2007.06.01 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Derovius Vaden on 01/06/2007 02:05:55
Originally by: Vari
Edited by: Vari on 01/06/2007 01:24:32
Originally by: Copine Callmeknau
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
I cannot help but smile everytime a smoker complains about the government trying to keep them healthy. In a few years, they will whine that they aren't doing enough to keep them alive after a lifetime of selfish indulgence.
Your opinion is not valid
Get out, troll
Don't be so mean to Derovius Vaden. He's just one of those angry and arrogant nerds. God help the normal people who have to deal with him in real life. Just treat him like people in real life would, pretend he's not there.
I'm actually a very nice person in real life, however, I also lost both my grandparents on my mothers side of the family due to smoking related cancer when I was 3 and 5 respectively. My sister never met her grandfather because of his self indulgence, and barely knew our grandmother. I remember very clearly seeing my grandmother doubled over in bed, coughing up bloody spit and small bits of something into a plastic bin.
Do not think for a second that this is a matter of what you want. Think about your goddamn families, and the unbelievable anguish you will put them through watching you vomit blood and need to be so doped up you don't pass out from the pain, and not being able to recognize them due to the medication.
Everyone dies, but there is no reason you need to force your loved ones to watch you die, helpless to help.
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Camilo Cienfuegos
Caldari
EP0CH
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Posted - 2007.06.01 02:26:00 -
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Think about your goddamn families, and the unbelievable anguish you will put them through watching you vomit blood and need to be so doped up you don't pass out from the pain, and not being able to recognize them due to the medication.
This is a perfectly valid reason for someone to give up smoking, but it does not justify legislating against smoking.
My own grandmother passed away recently I might add, as a result of complications with lung/throat cancer and indeed the bloody coughing et al were a trial for us all, but witnessing this has only left myself stronger. I digress though - she died at the age of 103 after smoking 60 a day for the last 80 years.
The exception to the rule she may be, but it would have been equally selfish for us to demand that she quit smoking so that she might extend her life a few years and save us from a little mental anguish in watching her suffer.
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Posted - 2007.06.01 04:20:00 -
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Newports, swisher sweets, philly blunts and honey dutch masters for those late nights spent with mj. also hookah, my favorite flavor was tangerine with another flavor (mint iirc.)
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Tek'a Rain
Gallente
Isis Technologies
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Posted - 2007.06.01 07:39:00 -
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whole turkey breast sometimes. more often a bit of my coveted and world-changing pecan chicken or maybe some onions with a touch of butter or a slice of bacon, wrapped in foil to sweeten up for 6 or 8 hours.
maybe a brisket, and iffen Im feelin nutty, some smoked bologna (to be served in thick sliced on thick texas toast, spicy bbq sauce optional)
course I dont smoke often as I would like, what with work and all.
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.06.01 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Edited by: Derovius Vaden on 01/06/2007 02:05:55
Do not think for a second that this is a matter of what you want. Think about your goddamn families, and the unbelievable anguish you will put them through watching you vomit blood and need to be so doped up you don't pass out from the pain, and not being able to recognize them due to the medication.
Everyone dies, but there is no reason you need to force your loved ones to watch you die, helpless to help.
This is the first thing i've ever heard you say in a way i really agree with.
However, frankly i've had to deal with my dad's cancer, multiple sclerosis(probably misspelled but i'm again sleep deprived), and you know what: he lives right. as far as my health goes, at the end of the day it's MY health. if ever i wind up with kids i'll drop my miniscule tobacco intake to a flat 0 until the kid is old enough to understand exactly what smoking can do to you. at which point i'd probably start back up, because i enjoy smoking, and the kid'll know it's a habit that is bad for you, and he/she can make the decision for themselves. i'm talking ten-twelve years no tobacco in the house.
and by the by, i pay for my own health insurance, the gov't doesn't GIVE me jack crap in that dept.
if i'm ever unable to **** without assistance, i'll opt into death, i've got a DNR that'll apply as soon as my military tour is up(heh, little known fact: you're not technically supposed to have a Do Not Resucitate order if you're in the US military), and frankly i jeopardize my life daily anyway.
so anyway, tried out my first Black&mild, must say, they smell much better than they taste.
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coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.01 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Eshtir
Ps: Playing with pens helps when you want to smoke a ciggy.
i just don't seem to be able to get a good drag out of a pen. only took 3 mouth fulls of ink to realise theres more nicotine in a cig
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Krulla
Minmatar
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.01 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
I cannot help but smile everytime a smoker complains about the government trying to keep them healthy. In a few years, they will whine that they aren't doing enough to keep them alive after a lifetime of selfish indulgence.
Okay, let's, for arguement's sake, say every single smoker gets cancer because of it (which is far from the truth).
Even if he spends some time in the government's care (assuming you live somewhere where you're lucky enough to get that), his lifetime of smoking has gotten the state MORE money than the amount of cash it needs to spend on the smoker once he eventually gets cancer. This is a fact.
Regarding your other post, yes it bloody well is my choice. Everyone dies eventually, and it's going to cause my relatives heartache and pain. And to be quite frank, I'd rather die from lung cancer at 65, and have my family endure maybe a year of pain, than have to force my family watch me deteriorate for 30 years from Alzheimers or some crap like that.
Please, if you don't like smoking, don't open a thread named "what do you smoke?". It's about as idiotic as if I'd go to the WoW forums and make a thread named "Wow Sucks!". It's my opinion, but I don't feel the need to enlighten others who don't aggree with me about it.
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