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Ionia
Advanced Manufacturing
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Posted - 2007.05.28 13:08:00 -
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This is just a heads up, not complaining or anything like that, I know the drill. I gave them access, they abused it.
These are the guys...
veblungsnes Imodesky Kafelnikov Wonko transcom caldari
The value of what they stole is somewhere between 30 and 40b I think. I havent had time to do an audit yet.
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SumDum
AirHawk Alliance Insomnia.
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Posted - 2007.05.28 13:24:00 -
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Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark. Sorry about the loss, thanks for the heads up. I keep a list of these when I see them, I wish I had a better way to manage it. A sticky would probably turn into the mother of all flamewars though.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.28 13:45:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 28/05/2007 13:44:38
I see by the Market Discussion thread that this won't affect investments... wow, that will take a lot of work to do
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Chrisb6122
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.05.28 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Though there is always the risk that the "thieves" are just Ionia's alts...
Ionia, are the losses your own or shareholder losses?
Alt tab back into to find out this and the answer to many more!
And thiefs suck -
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Firid Soulbane
Empyreum
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Posted - 2007.05.28 14:22:00 -
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Edited by: Firid Soulbane on 28/05/2007 14:23:07 Sorry, wrong thread.
Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer Saltire - I can understand one accidental podkilling, even two, but twelve....?
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HordeZla
Domination.
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Posted - 2007.05.28 15:01:00 -
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is your corp recruiting?
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Ray McCormack
BIG
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Posted - 2007.05.28 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ionia veblungsnes Wonko
Pity to see ex-FA guys involved in something like this.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.05.28 16:41:00 -
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Damn, 30-40b... thats a lot. You must have really trusted these guys to let them have access to so much.
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Iommo
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Posted - 2007.05.28 19:11:00 -
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Transcom... if you read this ya thieving lil ***** I still got that corpse of yours. Imodeski, your corpse is in my hangar Note to those reading this: Transcom and Imodeski were in SSDC for a little while. We got rid of them...I suggest ANY corp that they apply to accept them.. then pod them continuously.
My .02 isk
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veblungsnes
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Posted - 2007.05.28 19:36:00 -
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To clear a couple things up. Imodesky had nothing to do with this AT ALL. And Iommo you guys didn't get rid of us we left....
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Rilewedge
Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.28 19:48:00 -
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Ray, if you recall we had to boot Wonko out of FA for empire piracy. Seems to have moved down in the world since then.
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Entilzah Valen
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.05.28 19:59:00 -
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Imodesky was sold legally on the forums a long time ago. __________________________
Quote: Marko Debreault > I WILL MAKE BROTH FROM YOUR BLOOD AND DRINK IT FROM YOUR SKULL
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veblungsnes
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Posted - 2007.05.28 20:46:00 -
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You didn't kick us from Rise for empire piracy, you kicked us because we told some people how big of pussies Rise were at the time...
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Zentarion
You shall recive icepicks coz you are a nublet
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Posted - 2007.05.28 20:47:00 -
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Sexy
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Saker tascarki
Amarr Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2007.05.28 22:33:00 -
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Lmao
Looks like our instincts were right about you guys, good act on the capital ship program , Not wonder you guys jumped corp when you knew we would not give you deposits for them.
regards
Saker
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steveid
Metatron Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.28 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: HordeZla is your corp recruiting?
We have a winner! i lol.
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MeatwagonUK
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.05.28 22:57:00 -
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Sorry for your loss, but none of those guys appear to have been in corp for longer than 2 months at any time? Infact only 1 of them has been in your corp within the last month...?
Confused as to how someone who has only been in corp 1 month and 2 weeks has access to 40bil.
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari Caldari Research Management
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Posted - 2007.05.28 23:28:00 -
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Laziness, gullibility and 100% culpability on the part of the director/ceo who granted that access.
Thankfully this is just a game if a bank clerk allowed that to happen they'd be out of a job so fast their eyes would spin.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.28 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: SumDum I keep a list of these when I see them, I wish I had a better way to manage it.
Any chance you could post it? Would be useful to have. --------
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veblungsnes
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Posted - 2007.05.28 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Saker tascarki Lmao
Looks like our instincts were right about you guys, good act on the capital ship program , Not wonder you guys jumped corp when you knew we would not give you deposits for them.
regards
Saker
Let me get a couple more things straight.
I stole from a capital ship production corp I invested in, I never scammed anyone. I would of never scammed you guys Saker, we never said anything about deposits.....
Ionia is a good man, and anything but lazy. I took advantage of his trust.
Imodesky has nothing to do with this, he doesn't even know it happened yet.
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Veinnail
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2007.05.29 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: Veinnail on 29/05/2007 00:34:11
Originally by: veblungsnes ... you guys didn't get rid of us we left....
your roles were removed long before you left. you knew the deal.
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Chokmah
Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2007.05.29 01:01:00 -
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Edited by: Chokmah on 29/05/2007 01:04:24 Edited by: Chokmah on 29/05/2007 01:03:14 Edited by: Chokmah on 29/05/2007 01:02:50
Quote: This is just a heads up, not complaining or anything like that, I know the drill. I gave them access, they abused it. veblungsnes Imodesky Kafelnikov Wonko transcom caldari
the other i do not know but wonko i do last i heard from him he had just got a band for a GTC scam that was after he got kicked out from dark and light for killing his own corp m8
see the vid he made
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/wonko1/BlueEye's_-_a_farewell.wmv and you let this guy have access to omewhere between 30 and 40b YOU MAY TAKE MY SHIP BUT NEVER TAKE MY FREEDOM |
Tisanta
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.05.29 04:50:00 -
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Dominated.
Ahem i mean sorry to hear
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Slinktress
Gallente legion of qui Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.29 06:27:00 -
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FLA sends its condolences. We've been there, and it's not fun. Those characters are without honor.
Best wishes for your future o7 Slinktress, FLA Head Diplomat
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Ray McCormack
BIG
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Posted - 2007.05.29 08:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rilewedge Ray, if you recall we had to boot Wonko out of FA for empire piracy. Seems to have moved down in the world since then.
I recall it now. Do you have a list of their alts still?
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Ray McCormack
BIG
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Posted - 2007.05.29 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: SumDum I keep a list of these when I see them, I wish I had a better way to manage it.
Any chance you could post it? Would be useful to have.
With any recruiting it's always good to do an eve-search.com on their character names. That will show up any theft threads they've been named in.
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.05.29 08:27:00 -
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sweet jeez o_O reminds me; where's the risk-vs-reward balance for scamming/theft/con'ing anyway.... -
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Sofitia Mourtos
Viper Intel Squad Pure.
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Posted - 2007.05.29 10:37:00 -
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Ionia I would be gratfull if you could give some information about how your internal operations is/was setup in regards to security - and what the weak spot in the setup of it..
In short some kind of key-learnings that others could learn from - ofcourse all on your own time.
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari The Templars Knights
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Posted - 2007.05.29 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Entilzah Valen Imodesky was sold legally on the forums a long time ago.
If he was sold legally he had to have been in a noob corp for transfer. Therefore you cannot use that as an excuse, as it is irrevelant.
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Nemon v3
Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2007.05.29 16:01:00 -
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Ionia,
my advice is for future.
1. Always lock down all your BPO's - even cheap T1. 2. Always have all shares or your corp, so you cant be voted out any someone alse become CEO 3. Trust people, but dont be stupid. Protect assest's first, even from people you trust moste.
There is ALOT of ways to limit control in corp, you just need to use them.
Good luck in your future ventures!
N.
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Crax McGee
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.29 19:06:00 -
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MEGALOLZ!!!
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Imodesky Kafelnikov
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Posted - 2007.05.30 19:15:00 -
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I had not part what so ever in the scam. I have told Ionia this. The isk that I invested was stolen. I did not profit from or know about the theft. In fact my account has been inactive for the last 2 weeks.
Imodesky-
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Ionia
Advanced Manufacturing
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Posted - 2007.05.30 19:27:00 -
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Both Imodesky and Wonko/trans/veb insist that Imodesky wasnt involved in this scam and it was a solo effort.
What to make of that, I dont know, and I dont care.
Wonko/trans/veb had a member in my corp for the sole reason of working as a representative of Imodesky's investment in the project. They came to me as a package deal, as 'friends', so at the end of the day, I am treating them as a pair and thus made no distinction between them in my OP.
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Alex Under
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.05.30 20:54:00 -
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Sorry to hear about your loss Ionia
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Innominate
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.30 20:58:00 -
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I like how the accused aren't allowed to post in this thread. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari Caldari Research Management
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Posted - 2007.05.30 22:30:00 -
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Probably why it's best in crime and punishment section.
Yes corp theft and spies are a part of eve. They ARE everywhere.
Heck, with multiple accounts, who knows what the definition of a roleplayer is anymore? A person with multiple accounts featuring characters in warring alliances, or someone who plays a story role?
Even I don't know.
I know what I wouldn't like to see though, but it's damn hard to police and those type of people are usually the best assets.....usually.
Life is about memories the more the better. End Slavery. |
Herculite
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.30 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 28/05/2007 13:44:38
I see by the Market Discussion thread that this won't affect investments... wow, that will take a lot of work to do
"Investing" in eve is like arguing on the internet....
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.05.30 23:49:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 30/05/2007 23:50:23 And do what we in 4 rings do, speak to their last CEO and if they so much as spoke funny deny their request to join. You'd be amazed how many "untrustworthy" members we catch with that one. Also ask for a screenshot of their character select screen "when already logged on no username, just the characters" to see if they're an alt. Look up the the names of the other chars as well "if they've been in any corps" ____________
DubanFP > where ever there is a player that's getting too rich, wherever there's an industrial with too much loot, wherever there is a noob with too much smack we'll be there... |
malet
Quam Singulari Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.31 18:18:00 -
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maybe this will cheer you up , Wonko just lost his carrier
http://pewpew.info/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=35521
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Ionia
Advanced Manufacturing
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Posted - 2007.05.31 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: malet maybe this will cheer you up , Wonko just lost his carrier
http://pewpew.info/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=35521
Brought a smile to my face, thanks :)
He has 9 more carriers and 4 dreads where that came from though :|
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Benvolio GrrrKrishnakk
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.01 04:46:00 -
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Sounds like a pretty good haul. Congrats to the thieves. Sucks to be you, I guess. Signature removed, please email us with a link to the signature if you wish to know why. -Ivan K |
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