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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2012.01.03 17:20:00 -
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so much butthurt in this thread. xD
Really though, with all this "lowsec is dead" crap. The ppl doing PI RARELY yield kills in lowsec. They aren't adding much to the environment so with them gone it just less cloakies in a system.
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met worst
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:01:00 -
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Andski wrote:met worst wrote:Keep in mind that the politics and crap in null is/was enough to push many, many people back to high - now CCP are (inadvertently perhaps) adding lowsec to the "It's mine" alliances as well. sorry, badposting forum alt, but that was the anom nerf with the accompanying buff to highsec PvE, not politics which have always existed in nullsec.
The BS that goes on in in nullsec has always been a factor to people going in and then leaving. The anom nerf and Incursions introduction was just another reason. |
met worst
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:11:00 -
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Tippia wrote:met worst wrote:I had an entire chain happening, at the moment I cannot. Have you actually tried, or did you just give up at first sight?
Been there and did it Tippia. What prompted my OP was going to do PI and seeing another Interbus CO popped and having stuff stranded again while determining who owned what and where and when it was going to be replaced etc. etc.
The decision on whether I should 1) put up my own POCO or 2) wait and see what happened or 3) shift that PI elsewhere (which is also quite expensive when done frequently) is a PITA when you have chains running.
It'd be like mining and having to warp to every asteroid after you finish one all day. It's just too tedious doing it every day. PI is painful enough as it is!
And in fairness to the thread trolls, this was never a whine, it was an observation and I was curious whether other people felt the same. When stuff turns into an inconsistent tedium (deliberate term) people generally give up. It's not burnout, it's frustration. |
met worst
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:12:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:so much butthurt in this thread. xD
Really though, with all this "lowsec is dead" crap. The ppl doing PI RARELY yield kills in lowsec. They aren't adding much to the environment so with them gone it just less cloakies in a system.
But "they" went there yeah? And "rarely" has always been more than "none". |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:22:00 -
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met worst wrote:Tippia wrote:met worst wrote:I had an entire chain happening, at the moment I cannot. Have you actually tried, or did you just give up at first sight? Been there and did it Tippia. What prompted my OP was going to do PI and seeing another Interbus CO popped and having stuff stranded again while determining who owned what and where and when it was going to be replaced etc. etc. That sounds an awful lot like GÇ£noGÇ¥.
It's still entirely possible to have those chains going GÇö you just have to get the business relationship(s) going.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Velicitia
Open Designs
427
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:26:00 -
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Halcyon Ingenium wrote:Andski wrote:SilentSkills wrote:you sir, are an idiot, lowsec may be dead, but its far more dangerous than bluefested,cynojammed,intel-ridden 0.0 this is true, all of our systems are cynojammed, every one of them (you're dumb) Most of your systems are raspberry jammed.
only one person would DARE give me the raspberry!
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met worst
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:29:00 -
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Tippia wrote:met worst wrote:Tippia wrote:met worst wrote:I had an entire chain happening, at the moment I cannot. Have you actually tried, or did you just give up at first sight? Been there and did it Tippia. What prompted my OP was going to do PI and seeing another Interbus CO popped and having stuff stranded again while determining who owned what and where and when it was going to be replaced etc. etc. That sounds an awful lot like GÇ£noGÇ¥. It's still entirely possible to have those chains going GÇö you just have to get the business relationship(s) going.
Agreed. It's also one of my points. Taking it up the proverbial yet one more time to be able to play is also very, very tedious. More of the game gets put into the hands of the "haves" and the "have-nots" can go jump.
IMHO, the game is further turning into a
1) You are either small and have to suck it up.
2) You have to be big or join big.
The middle ground is being eroded away. Game intent? No idea. But I betcha there's a lot like me in the same boat. |
IGNATIUS HOOD
Zephyr Corp
V.A.S.T.
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:24:00 -
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met worst wrote:Mentat Cthulhu wrote:WAS no NEED or WANT except DUST release APPROACHING and TOO many PEOPLE making TOO much ISK with TOO little RISK I'm confused by this belief that there was too much isk to be made. I ran an experiment maxing 5 chars to make Robotics only. The most I could make on *5* chars was 100m a day - if - the market prices held above 60k each. And the amount of clickwork to do that was stupid. For mine, it can only be a Dust 514 motivation and I am simply not interested in FPS so where does that leave me. Back mining or missioning? Sucking it up in some nullsec alliance? It was my last vestige of "fun". The question remains, is CCP prepared to lose me - an RL money player with 5 accounts - to pick up a twitch speed teenager with ADHD who will quit for something else within a few months?
You're doing it wrong.
'perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim'
Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you. |
IGNATIUS HOOD
Zephyr Corp
V.A.S.T.
254
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:25:00 -
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met worst wrote:Tippia wrote:met worst wrote:Tippia wrote:met worst wrote:I had an entire chain happening, at the moment I cannot. Have you actually tried, or did you just give up at first sight? Been there and did it Tippia. What prompted my OP was going to do PI and seeing another Interbus CO popped and having stuff stranded again while determining who owned what and where and when it was going to be replaced etc. etc. That sounds an awful lot like GÇ£noGÇ¥. It's still entirely possible to have those chains going GÇö you just have to get the business relationship(s) going. Agreed. It's also one of my points. Taking it up the proverbial yet one more time to be able to play is also very, very tedious. More of the game gets put into the hands of the "haves" and the "have-nots" can go jump. IMHO, the game is further turning into a 1) You are either small and have to suck it up. 2) You have to be big or join big. The middle ground is being eroded away. Game intent? No idea. But I betcha there's a lot like me in the same boat.
Yes I think its game intent. Is that bad? I don't think so.
'perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim'
Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you. |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris
Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:41:00 -
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OP,
Hop in a wormhole, you'll be happier there.
AG
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.-áPeace out Zulu! Hope you land well! |
Crystal Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
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Posted - 2012.01.04 00:58:00 -
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All these people are quitting PI?
Awesome, the prices will go up 
Really I don't see the new system as bad, I have 2x alts running lowsec PI, but what I don't like is the design is another poorly though out mess:
PI is an individual effort. There is ZERO Corp support. You can't for example grab some escorts and a hauler and go clean out eveyones PI, because each person has to be present. There is no shared effort or anything that would make having a corp be a benefit.
So as a result of that corp members placed PI all over, they did not all sync up on the same 6 planets in most cases.
Along comes POCO, which requires more than a few folks to really use in lowsec. But because everyone is all over and because there is no way to share the effort, there is really no point in building POCOs, what are we going to do, tear down everyones PI on dozens of planets?
Another half assed design.
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