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Silpher
Omen Incorporated
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.05.30 17:44:00 -
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/SIGNED
This destroys the effectiveness of stealth bombers. If you're sitting at a gate cloaked waiting for targets to come through, and some unknown comes in from a different direction, the only sure fire way to avoid detection is to uncloak, warp around, recloak, repeat. It completely gives you away. I don't know about you, but my stealth bomber doesn't move very fast while cloaked. THIS IS OBSURD! Nerfing the cloak is the worst thing you can do.
And in response to people calling us not in favor whiners, you're the whiners, otherwise this wouldn't have happened in the first place. This is *NOT* a good way to combat AFK cloakers. You should throw in the AFK kick-clock instead. This is unnecissary and takes away any advantage a cloaker had in keeping himself safe.
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Silpher
Omen Incorporated
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.05.30 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Silpher on 30/05/2007 17:54:01
Edited by: Silpher on 30/05/2007 17:53:12
 Originally by: Mephysto
No idea if its been mentioned elsewhere on this thread, but the current situation with cloaks and probes is:
Cloaked ships can NOT be probed.
Is this contradicting patch notes? What's the deal?
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Silpher
Omen Incorporated
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.05.30 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Trak Cranker
Edited by: Trak Cranker on 30/05/2007 20:06:47
Most of what this "nerf" will do, if it turns out somewhat as expected, is make life a tad more dangerous for afk cloakers. Afk cloakers gain extremely much for no effort. That should quite evidently not be a possibility. Risk vs reward.
I have been on both ends of the afk cloak threat and I find the current state to be completely unbalanced.
For the active cloaker the risk will be close to neglible. I simply fail to see what task we won't be able to perform after this change, that we were meant to perform before. All those claiming the training for cloaks will be wasted must be running some "interesting" cloak ops atm.
Will the task now carry a smidgen of risk? Yes. As it should. This is Eve.
Asking that cloaked ships should be/remain totally undetectable is even more adverse to the general idea of Eve than asking for PVP free systems in empire space.
Debating the meaning of the words covert and cloaking is asinine at best, and have no bearing on whether the change should be made. (But just for the interested: Link1 - Link2)
I would like for all or some of the signers to specifically line out, what operations will be hurt to any significant extent, and why any such operation deserves to be carried out under the near unbreakable shroud its done under now. Preferably with reference to how it improves the overall gameplay of Eve to let it remain so, in contrast to how the situation will be after the change.
Until then, this reeks of lazyness.
(oh, and telling people complaining about afk cloakers that they should just bait them out -  )
As I stated above, Stealth Bombers lose their only defense. The only way to avoid being warped in on in a bomber is to uncloak and move, completely throwing the bomber out in the open. It can no longer maintain any camp that it was intended for. The 30 second cloaking penalty means you're going to have to warp out of range or completely off the grid in order to get safe. It doesn't move fast enough cloaked to stay in motion to not be affected by the probes. What's the point of having a Stealth Bomber if waiting for a target cloaked becomes useless? I'm not talking AFK, I'm talking camp. Am I wrong?
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Silpher
Omen Incorporated
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.05.31 07:22:00 -
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Funny how it took so long for this to happen. This is an obsurd 'fix'(gimp). It's a "CLOAK". Again, I say, if this is being done to combat AFK Cloakers, then make it so anyone AFK for so long get's kicked from game. Couldn't this also cut down on lag? I don't see why CCP is so against instituting this not so farfetched idea.
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Silpher
Symphony of Destruction Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.06.17 14:38:00 -
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SHUT UP! THERE IS NO CLOAK NERF! STFU! IT'S A DIRTY RUMOUR GONE CRAZY! HUSH HUSH HUSH NOW CHILDREN! JUST LISTEN TO THE LIVE DEV BLOG! DO YOUR RESEARCH! THERE IS NO NERF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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