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Carl Bowmore North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.05.28 20:07:00 - [121] Ok, found and read the Goon orders and I only have a couple of question: 1. What does "snip" mean? 2. Is it something Goons often do when they "chillax" in internet games? Even if the Goons take over all of the universe they will never get their filthy little hands on the secret kladdkaka recepie Inappropriate term for a PG13 forum. -Elmo Pug
Emeline Cabernet Amarr KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.28 20:26:00 - [122] hi digi!
Luthien Firefoot Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.05.28 20:32:00 - [123] Strange post tbh. I've seen BOB do a lot of things in the past three years. Steal pos with alt character and use it to invade JU-OWQ. Borrow ships from me and not pay the isk (bella fea-over 2 years ago). Share accounts so that 'supercaps' operate 24/7. But I've never seen them cry on the forums before....
Jotan Veer HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2007.05.28 20:45:00 - [124] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz For me PvP is about 50% about the enjoyment in seeing others suffer. The other 50% is the enjoyment of the kind of fierce competition that only comes from PvP. Fixed it for you Sir. Some people like the epeen factor that comes from kill board stats and some people do it because of the adrenaline. I doubt everyone is out there to cause the maximum amount of suffering. I personally could care less if the dude I just podded had a full snake set and about to smash his wide screen TFT in frustration, I do it for the rush. But I guess there are plenty of people who get a hard-on from the words podding, snake and set.
Sochin Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.28 20:51:00 - [125] Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Another BOB charecter assassination attempt on CAOD and a poor attempt.. This is getting old boys and girls.. [/orange] Are. You. ******. Serious? That is the single most hypocritical thing I've heard in this game. Nemo me impune lacessit*
Phoenus Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.28 20:55:00 - [126] Sochin, Lunas Lunas, Sochin Now you are both acquainted [ 2006.08.16 20:49:06 ] (combat) Your Electron Blaster Cannon II barely scratches Dominix [NTEMS]<HELLH>(Dominix), causing
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.28 20:57:00 - [127] Originally by: Jotan Veer I personally could care less if the dude I just podded had a full snake set and about to smash his wide screen TFT in frustration, I do it for the rush. But I guess there are plenty of people who get a hard-on from the words podding, snake and set. Yes, I'm sure you HATE it when you pod kill somebody with snake implants.
Rex Mundus League of Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.05.28 20:58:00 - [128] What does it really matter? So what if Goonswarm are trying to destroy Eve? If they don't succeed then Band of Brothers will, so ultimately it doesn't make a blind bit of difference. I'm sick of the constant stream of puerile propaganda dreamed up by 14 year olds, it's like living in a god damned schoolyard. It never ends. The two alliances are more alike than either want to admit. Both have talented artists that are prepared to spend the time to dream up new pictures that only themselves find funny. Both are now so entrenched in their weird ideas that you actually need to be one, or aspire to be one, in order to fully appreciate the unique flavour of crap they spew. Ban them both for christs sake. If the point of this thread is to be the cue for a group of shining knights in armour to come riding over the horizon and save the day, by god are we going to be waiting a hell of a long time. Rex.
Jotan Veer HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2007.05.28 21:03:00 - [129] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Yes, I'm sure you HATE it when you pod kill somebody with snake implants. I'm sure I said I do not care. I know it must be a hard concept to grasp. I could give a flying insert profanity here how the hostiles feel, I'm only here for my adrenaline dose.
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.28 21:11:00 - [130] Originally by: Jotan Veer Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Yes, I'm sure you HATE it when you pod kill somebody with snake implants. I'm sure I said I do not care. I know it must be a hard concept to grasp. I could give a flying insert profanity here how the hostiles feel, I'm only here for my adrenaline dose. So do you let pods fly away then? Or do you get an adrenaline rush by killing pods???
Jotan Veer HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2007.05.28 21:18:00 - [131] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz So do you let pods fly away then? Or do you get an adrenaline rush by killing pods??? Oh my, splitting hairs now are we? No, I do not let pods fly away since removing hostiles from local is a necessity in 0.0. I think it is kinda pointless to argue about this, you won't convince me that I pvp to cause suffering and I won't convince you that I'm not.
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.28 21:21:00 - [132] Originally by: Jotan Veer Oh my, splitting hairs now are we? No, I do not let pods fly away since removing hostiles from local is a necessity in 0.0. Only if you're camping. But I'll let you off the hook. You are a very nice guy, and I'm sure you've never enjoyed hurting anybody, especially after they smack you.
Galactic Overlord CAOD Corp	Posted - 2007.05.28 21:25:00 - [133] This just in, an alliance wants to beat their enemies. News at 11.
Beyond Horizon Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.05.28 21:29:00 - [134] Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 28/05/2007 21:30:57 Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 28/05/2007 21:29:15 Originally by: Jotan Veer Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Yes, I'm sure you HATE it when you pod kill somebody with snake implants. I'm sure I said I do not care. I know it must be a hard concept to grasp. I could give a flying insert profanity here how the hostiles feel, I'm only here for my adrenaline dose. Go kill noobships on the test server then. The bigger the ship kill - the more fun you get from it, or should I say... pleasure :) Or might I even add that the more EXPENSIVE the ship killed is the more pleasure you get from killing it. I see thousands of comments when there is a faction ship killed, and I kinda see none when some xelas isk farmer dies in a raven, which is kinda a routine thing down in fountain. - BH
Jotan Veer HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2007.05.28 21:32:00 - [135] Edited by: Jotan Veer on 28/05/2007 21:32:33 Originally by: Shamis Orzoz But I'll let you off the hook. You are a very nice guy, and I'm sure you've never enjoyed hurting anybody, especially after they smack you. Actually, smack is the exact reason why I love being in fountain, it is very entertaining to have people like Farscape wear away their fingertips on the keyboard taunting people on local. It provides endless entertainment in lull hours. Yes, smack does work on most people of course.
Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.28 21:35:00 - [136] Originally by: Galactic Overlord This just in, an alliance wants to beat their enemies. News at 11. This just in, forum alts are for cowards and ******s.
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp	Posted - 2007.05.28 21:52:00 - [137] Edited by: Plutoinum on 28/05/2007 21:53:57 After reading that post, I start to like Goonswarm in a way I like Pinky and Brain I think. Originally by: Dalanoria lol, if Goon wanted to ruin EO, they could just quit and take 5k primetime players with them... Nooo, not that ! Please ! How should I live on ?
Jotan Veer HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2007.05.28 21:55:00 - [138] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Go kill noobships on the test server then. The bigger the ship kill - the more fun you get from it, or should I say... pleasure :) Or might I even add that the more EXPENSIVE the ship killed is the more pleasure you get from killing it. I see thousands of comments when there is a faction ship killed, and I kinda see none when some xelas isk farmer dies in a raven, which is kinda a routine thing down in fountain. I think you are misunderstand what I'm trying to say. Must be the language barrier, sorry English is a second language of mine. Let me be more specific, I get my rush from flying paper ships. Like there is a constant chance in a sluggish flycatcher that I will die a horrible death in my own bubble. It is fun to sit on a gate in a glorified destroyer which flies like a brick, has the sig radius of a BS and tanks like handkerchief. You won't see me in a fleet mega (even though I can fly and fit one properly) unless I get direct orders from the FC to undock in one. Because it isn't fun for me.
Jin Entres Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.28 22:03:00 - [139] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz PvP is about 50% about the enjoyment in seeing others suffer. The other 50% is the enjoyment of the kind of fierce competition that only comes from PvP. Saying that he wants to make their enemies miserable is perfectly reasonable, I'm sure Molle doesn't want the goons to be happy either... And as for destroying eve, he's either joking, or the latest incident has pushed him over the edge. Either way I don't see anything wrong with that. Do you play chess because you enjoy seeing your opponent suffer? Do you play blackjack because you enjoy seeing the dealer suffer? Do you watch football, icehockey or any competitive sports because you enjoy seeing losers suffer? I doubt it. There's a big difference between enjoying winning and enjoying the suffering of others. One can be extremely competitive and cruel in terms of achieving game goals and still have no malice toward one's competitors. The goals within a game environment dictate what means are neccessary or possible to be employed in reaching them, be it scoring goals, points or home runs or conquering sovereignty, inflicting monetary damage or building a supercapital. To reach these goals, it is neccessary to cause suffering to others, but that suffering is not the goal. Saying it is is like saying that football is about causing your opponent injuries and enjoying it. Anyone who would say that would instantly make a fool out of themselves. No, football is about displaying skill and teamwork. No player's goal is to get other players to quit football. Such players should only quit themselves. EVE is no different: you can have fierce battles, tests of might if you will, and come out with mutual respect whether you won or lost. I can not verify the authenticity of the provided quotes in the OP, but I sincerely hope that it's not true. But if it is, goon members should rise above it and seek a coup d'etat or resign. The above is my personal opinion, and not in my capacity as a representative of the MC. ---
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.28 22:04:00 - [140] that mittani guy is a mean jerk no respect tbqh
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.28 22:07:00 - [141] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz self rightoughs nonsesne Why dont you drop the act dude? The likes of mittani and your self is why this game is going to drama and lameness with all your oog crap and most funny thing is you claim to be self rightoughs ( yeh we fight bob coz they are evil buu huu) . Comparing us with goons is just ****** , we didnt spam the forums and bring it down coz some delusional person woke up in the middle of the night rememebring that there was gm in his corp 3 weeks later and it would be cool to stir ** up. Seriously this game will be so much better once you and ur likes are gone for good.
Nostic Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.05.28 22:11:00 - [142] The game will pretty much be destroyed after this war is over, no matter who wins. All of 0.0 being + to each other pumping out supercapitals that will give them an untouchable edge over any alliances coming from NPC space or empire.
Kam SingDu'k Singularity. The Cartel.	Posted - 2007.05.28 22:17:00 - [143] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Shamis Orzoz self rightoughs nonsesne Why dont you drop the act dude? The likes of mittani and your self is why this game is going to drama and lameness with all your oog crap and most funny thing is you claim to be self rightoughs ( yeh we fight bob coz they are evil buu huu) . Comparing us with goons is just ****** , we didnt spam the forums and bring it down coz some delusional person woke up in the middle of the night rememebring that there was gm in his corp 3 weeks later and it would be cool to stir ** up. Seriously this game will be so much better once you and ur likes are gone for good. Yeah they should just keep quiet when they find out about cheating going on etc. In face how about they adapt to it you know like that corp slogan... o wait. tbh though I'd say 30% of my eve enjoyment comes from knowing the other team suffered (ie losing expensive mods etc) eve is all about grief play you know:P Any other game and I't usually for my own enjoyment. But imo eve is the only game out there I have experienced where u can actually feel virtual hatred for someone else (hatred of course being too strong of a word but you know what i mean :D)
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.28 22:19:00 - [144] Originally by: Jin Entres Originally by: Shamis Orzoz PvP is about 50% about the enjoyment in seeing others suffer. The other 50% is the enjoyment of the kind of fierce competition that only comes from PvP. Saying that he wants to make their enemies miserable is perfectly reasonable, I'm sure Molle doesn't want the goons to be happy either... And as for destroying eve, he's either joking, or the latest incident has pushed him over the edge. Either way I don't see anything wrong with that. Do you play chess because you enjoy seeing your opponent suffer? Do you play blackjack because you enjoy seeing the dealer suffer? Do you watch football, icehockey or any competitive sports because you enjoy seeing losers suffer? I doubt it. There's a big difference between enjoying winning and enjoying the suffering of others. One can be extremely competitive and cruel in terms of achieving game goals and still have no malice toward one's competitors. The goals within a game environment dictate what means are neccessary or possible to be employed in reaching them, be it scoring goals, points or home runs or conquering sovereignty, inflicting monetary damage or building a supercapital. To reach these goals, it is neccessary to cause suffering to others, but that suffering is not the goal. Saying it is is like saying that football is about causing your opponent injuries and enjoying it. Anyone who would say that would instantly make a fool out of themselves. No, football is about displaying skill and teamwork. No player's goal is to get other players to quit football. Such players should only quit themselves. EVE is no different: you can have fierce battles, tests of might if you will, and come out with mutual respect whether you won or lost. I can not verify the authenticity of the provided quotes in the OP, but I sincerely hope that it's not true. But if it is, goon members should rise above it and seek a coup d'etat or resign. The above is my personal opinion, and not in my capacity as a representative of the MC. Don't think many could have said it better. Quoted for Truth and you can delete that personal opinion *******s. :) - -
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.05.28 22:20:00 - [145] Originally by: Jin Entres Do you play chess because you enjoy seeing your opponent suffer? So...like when he flips the board and stomps off because you beat him so badly, you don't smile??? Quote: Do you play blackjack because you enjoy seeing the dealer suffer? The house doesn't lose money, so unless the pitbosses are superstitious ****s the dealer loses nothing when you win. In fact he may make more money than normal because you're more likely to tip him. Quote:** Do you watch football, icehockey or any competitive sports because you enjoy seeing losers suffer? This seems like a poor example since hockey players are often known to beat the crap out of each other. Regardless, I don't care who wins in spectator sports, because the spectators generally have zero impact on the outcome, which is why I really don't enjoy watching sports. Quote: I doubt it. There's a big difference between enjoying winning and enjoying the suffering of others. One can be extremely competitive and cruel in terms of achieving game goals and still have no malice toward one's competitors. That depends on the opponent. Quote: The goals within a game environment dictate what means are neccessary or possible to be employed in reaching them, be it scoring goals, points or home runs or conquering sovereignty, inflicting monetary damage or building a supercapital. To reach these goals, it is neccessary to cause suffering to others, but that suffering is not the goal. Who cares? Causing suffering is better, whether you do it for monetary destruction, for loss of morale, or just for fun. Quote: Saying it is is like saying that football is about causing your opponent injuries and enjoying it. Anyone who would say that would instantly make a fool out of themselves. No, football is about displaying skill and teamwork. No player's goal is to get other players to quit football. Such players should only quit themselves. EVE is no different: you can have fierce battles, tests of might if you will, and come out with mutual respect whether you won or lost. Most people don't like to inflict real lasting injuries on their competitors, but I can think of a great number of people who would enjoy seeing their rivals limp off the field in pain. That doesn't mean you won't respect the best players on a team, or in a game, but seeing them suffer in some trivial way is usually rewarding for most people, like it or not. Quote: I can not verify the authenticity of the provided quotes in the OP, but I sincerely hope that it's not true. But if it is, goon members should rise above it and seek a coup d'etat or resign. Goons don't take the game as seriously as you, and as such, they can have fun, while joking about things that others may find offensive.
Frygok Minmatar Mean Anglo-Danes	Posted - 2007.05.28 22:30:00 - [146] I repeat, what exactly is this out of game stuff that some are accusing Goonswarm for? I haven't really seen any evidence for it. And no, I am not trolling, I am genuinly interested in seeing the evidence. And where is the line between social engineering and out of game cheat/hack/exploit/abuse?
Beyond Horizon Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.05.28 22:34:00 - [147] Originally by: Jotan Veer Edited by: Jotan Veer on 28/05/2007 21:55:25 Originally by: Beyond Horizon Go kill noobships on the test server then. The bigger the ship kill - the more fun you get from it, or should I say... pleasure :) Or might I even add that the more EXPENSIVE the ship killed is the more pleasure you get from killing it. I see thousands of comments when there is a faction ship killed, and I kinda see none when some xelas isk farmer dies in a raven, which is kinda a routine thing down in fountain. I think you are misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. Must be the language barrier, sorry English is a second language of mine. Let me be more specific, I get my rush from flying paper ships. Like there is a constant chance in a sluggish flycatcher that I will die a horrible death in my own bubble. It is fun to sit on a gate in a glorified destroyer which flies like a brick, has the sig radius of a BS and tanks like handkerchief. You won't see me in a fleet mega (even though I can fly and fit one properly) unless I get direct orders from the FC to undock in one. Because it isn't fun for me. Dude, I see your point, my question is would you prefer killing a centus fitted machariel in your flycatcher or a noobshEEp? - BH
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.28 22:37:00 - [148] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Kam SingDu'k Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Shamis Orzoz self rightoughs nonsesne Why dont you drop the act dude? The likes of mittani and your self is why this game is going to drama and lameness with all your oog crap and most funny thing is you claim to be self rightoughs ( yeh we fight bob coz they are evil buu huu) . Comparing us with goons is just ****** , we didnt spam the forums and bring it down coz some delusional person woke up in the middle of the night rememebring that there was gm in his corp 3 weeks later and it would be cool to stir up. Seriously this game will be so much better once you and ur likes are gone for good. Yeah they should just keep quiet when they find out about cheating going on etc. In face how about they adapt to it you know like that corp slogan... o wait. tbh though I'd say 30% of my eve enjoyment comes from knowing the other team suffered (ie losing expensive mods etc) eve is all about grief play you know:P Any other game and I't usually for my own enjoyment. But imo eve is the only game out there I have experienced where u can actually feel virtual hatred for someone else (hatred of course being too strong of a word but you know what i mean :D) You didnt read my point clearly m8 , i got nps what so ever with griefign opponent ingame and making them lose stuff is all good . Runing the game by hacking and spamming forum like raving lunatics and disrupting the gaming service for ppl who aint even part of this whole thing is not grieging it is simply low act from a bunch of losers. Yeah but there was a valid reason for the spam. It's only the second time it's been done and seems to be the one way to stop CCP(ISD) from deleting everything pertaining to a given subject. However. The tone of the post detailed in the OP, especially when he's in charge of a few thousand Eve players, is not something i think this game needs. Originally by:** Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.28 22:38:00 - [149] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 28/05/2007 22:38:44 Originally by: Beyond Horizon Originally by: Jotan Veer Originally by: Beyond Horizon Go kill noobships on the test server then. The bigger the ship kill - the more fun you get from it, or should I say... pleasure :) Or might I even add that the more EXPENSIVE the ship killed is the more pleasure you get from killing it. I see thousands of comments when there is a faction ship killed, and I kinda see none when some xelas isk farmer dies in a raven, which is kinda a routine thing down in fountain. I think you are misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. Must be the language barrier, sorry English is a second language of mine. Let me be more specific, I get my rush from flying paper ships. Like there is a constant chance in a sluggish flycatcher that I will die a horrible death in my own bubble. It is fun to sit on a gate in a glorified destroyer which flies like a brick, has the sig radius of a BS and tanks like handkerchief. You won't see me in a fleet mega (even though I can fly and fit one properly) unless I get direct orders from the FC to undock in one. Because it isn't fun for me. Dude, I see your point, my question is would you prefer killing a centus fitted machariel in your flycatcher or a noobshEEp? Macharial, gives more loot Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Quote: I can not verify the authenticity of the provided quotes in the OP, but I sincerely hope that it's not true. But if it is, goon members should rise above it and seek a coup d'etat or resign. Goons don't take the game as seriously as you, and as such, they can have fun, while joking about things that others may find offensive. Wait, are you serious? Are these the same goons that brag about their black ops, massive spying and griefing operations, and DDOS entire forums just to prove a point? The irony is that Goonswarm, the same alliance that constantly whines about EVE being a "game of internet spaceships," takes EVE far more seriously than any other alliance in the game by an order of magnitude. --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!
Beyond Horizon Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.05.28 22:42:00 - [150] You are wrong Dark Shikari. - BH

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