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Boliknar The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 01:52:00 - [181] Edited by: Boliknar on 29/05/2007 01:52:16 double post
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.05.29 01:56:00 - [182] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Runing the game by hacking and spamming forum like raving lunatics and disrupting the gaming service for ppl who aint even part of this whole thing is not grieging it is simply low act from a bunch of losers. I'm sure you have difficulty understanding why they would do such a thing. MSN is a much easier way to get in touch with the high ups at ccp. So whose fault is it that Remedial and Mittani and other queen bees haven't made friends with CCP employees? Ofcourse, you would be assuming that people in Goonswarm have no friends in CCP, or ISD, or that there are zero ISD in GS who are friends with CCP for that matter. Regardless, given how friendly CCP staff are, I have a hard time believing BoB has some sort of monopoly on making friends with devs. Regardless, Shamis, who are you to say that players cannot have friends in CCP, and that said CCP employees aren't allowed to talk to those friends on MSN, ICQ, AIM, or whatever? Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.05.29 01:57:00 - [183] Oh, and when I beat someone at Chess, or any other game for that matter, and they throw a tantrum and stomp away, I pity their lack of maturity and their possible attempt to sour my win. Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
LiquidSteele Exit 13 Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.29 02:00:00 - [184] Originally by: ChalSto Originally by: Klezz Edited by: Klezz on 28/05/2007 16:09:35 Originally by: Velios Originally by: Skrypt The irony is that this is the alliance the majority of EVE decided to rally behind. Yeah that's the depressing part. QFT x 2 QFT QFT
Aries Acheron Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.29 02:06:00 - [185] Originally by: Boliknar And who pray tell would be looking into these accusations. Oh! the very same people accused. Is that not like the fox guarding the chicken coop. Of course CCP is going to say EVE is fair and no wrong doing took place...EVE is their cash cow the dont want to kill it. The fact of the matter is that CCP has been proven to be untrustworthy on its most basic level. And when more allegations are brought forth and we see more efforts to cover them up followed by very well organized and orchestrated forum onslaught by the side they are accused of helping we cannot help but be suspicious of not only CCP's motives but those of the side it has been proven has garnered their special favors. Please, then do tell me how on earth Goonswarm is a more suitable judge of their truthfulness? Or the court of public opinion? The first is an aggrieved party percieving wrongs against them. How can you suspect people defending CCP of doing so 'because they are getting favors'? How about because it is more likely that one party has delivered all this drama specifically to attack the company instead of the issues at hand? Why else would DS1 wait three weeks to put up this drama instead of immediately after it was found? The last time ANY sort of problem happened, it was investigated, then the person who did it was revealed to the public and an apology was issued, an assurance that no more issues would happen, AND it wasn't even a company policy, just one person ditching his crap into the corp hangar. Before you accuse those against you of tinfoil conspiring, look at yourself and how paranoid those arguments sound that you're putting out about some horrible Bo(D) Conspiracy. ~~~ Action! Suspense! Jita! Eve Tribune
Brunswick2 eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.29 02:10:00 - [186] ffs, no one's paying enough attention to me... Yeah, I heard that this one guy, Brunswick2, is a complete lunatic and is trying to ruin your game. In fact, he wants to turn Gallente into Night Elves and turn all guns into wild daisies that you can pick all day. And then once the DX10 graphics are realeased, he wants to turn EVE into a text based game where he can grief you unceasingly. I also heard that he leaves the seat down...
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.29 02:12:00 - [187] Your outrage tastes delicious.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.29 02:13:00 - [188] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/05/2007 02:12:15 Originally by: The Mittani Your outrage tastes delicious. Interesting, you focus on the outrage of your enemies as you lose multiple stations a week... I guess you're going to have to taste outrage from Jita, eh? I heard its more difficult to taste it from that range. --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!
Aries Acheron Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.29 02:18:00 - [189] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/05/2007 02:12:15 Originally by: The Mittani Your outrage tastes delicious. Interesting, you focus on the outrage of your enemies as you lose multiple stations a week... I guess you're going to have to taste outrage from Jita, eh? I heard its more difficult to taste it from that range. Thank you. I sautee outrage with some flavorful eastern spices, then bake it under a warm Jita lag for a good crisp 45 minutes. ~~~ Action! Suspense! Jita! Eve Tribune
fugazii Deep Space Productions	Posted - 2007.05.29 02:18:00 - [190] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: fugazii Originally by: the Poet Read the whole post and... lolx2? lol 1 @ the "bore them to death" tactic, apparently FA,PA,ASCN and others didn't demonstrate how fantastic this tactic works look them up in empire and ask. lol 2 @ the propaganda we are loosing space and ships at a record numbers BUT "we got them right where we want them" ahem actually....PA nicely did the bore to death tactic. lets just say for a minute that you guys didnt leave the north the first time due to g on bkg's doorsteps, and that you really left because, and this is sir molles explanation "we were bored" who was it that immediately took back all of branch and tenal? cmon who was it now...thats right PA. so unless your saying sir molle was wrong and after all this time your finally admitting you didnt leave the north due to being bored, then yes "bore them to death" tactic does work, exactly 33.3% of the time. also if you count you guys giving up on the first goon campaign. then that raises the percentage to half. "Bore them to death" only really worked before POSs and sovereignty and the like. Nowadays if you try to "bore" them, they'll just take your stations anyways. Back in the good old days it was easy to take the stations back since there was no sovereignty issue. well yes ofc theyll take your stations, but they cant stay there forever. PA didnt hold onto stations during the gnw, they sat in venal npc stations till bob got "bored" and left. same could happen here(it did for bob vrs goon pt1 in syndicate), since there is stain, curse, gw only a few jumps away. while yes it would be much harder now to do it, since taking back the stations would be much harder due to pos's, however there isnt anyone aside from bob who could stand up to goon ra tcf iac right now, so once bob left and put in whatever tenant, those peope would quickly be ousted. sure bob could come back and help the tenants, but how many times? cant say for goon/tcf/iac, but do you really think ra will leave? think about it.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.29 02:21:00 - [191] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/05/2007 02:20:56 Originally by: fugazii while yes it would be much harder now to do it, since taking back the stations would be much harder due to pos's, however there isnt anyone aside from bob who could stand up to goon ra tcf iac right now, so once bob left and put in whatever tenant, those peope would quickly be ousted. sure bob could come back and help the tenants, but how many times? cant say for goon/tcf/iac, but do you really think ra will leave? think about it. Out of curiosity, where do you think BoB would go next? Is there any superpower in EVE left for them to attack other than RAGOON and friends? One thing I've wondered is if BoB does succeed in becoming the only superpower in EVE, won't their PvPers get bored and leave? --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!
Apollyon X Dark Knights of Deneb	Posted - 2007.05.29 02:23:00 - [192] I dont know why but that stuff just makes me like goons more. same with your other posts. This seems more like a recruiting post then a propaganda one.
Etho Demerzel Gallente Holy Clan of the Cone	Posted - 2007.05.29 02:28:00 - [193] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/05/2007 02:20:56 Originally by: fugazii while yes it would be much harder now to do it, since taking back the stations would be much harder due to pos's, however there isnt anyone aside from bob who could stand up to goon ra tcf iac right now, so once bob left and put in whatever tenant, those peope would quickly be ousted. sure bob could come back and help the tenants, but how many times? cant say for goon/tcf/iac, but do you really think ra will leave? think about it. Out of curiosity, where do you think BoB would go next? Is there any superpower in EVE left for them to attack other than RAGOON and friends? One thing I've wondered is if BoB does succeed in becoming the only superpower in EVE, won't their PvPers get bored and leave? They are not quite brave enough for this. Even with CCP help they may lose this if they go too far ;)
Jonathan Peterbilt Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.05.29 03:02:00 - [194] Originally by: Aries Acheron Edited by: Aries Acheron on 29/05/2007 01:33:06 Agreed with DS. The real damning thing of all is that Goonfleet members went and spread this across the internet at the time of it's posting on the forums. You know it's goonfleet, since most of the internet sources posted to SAY right that explicitly right on the article (such as Digg's) That goes way above and beyond the 'in game, make sure things are legit' claim that some suggest. By making this a media circus immediately, it basically declares CCP guilty by verdict of mob law, without the facts actually even being looked into. Hardly the actions of 'internet spaceship pew pewers'. What's been done is despicably vile. They did it to LV, they tried with BOB and failed. I guess now its time to try and do it to CCP....
fugazii Deep Space Productions	Posted - 2007.05.29 03:42:00 - [195] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/05/2007 02:20:56 Originally by: fugazii while yes it would be much harder now to do it, since taking back the stations would be much harder due to pos's, however there isnt anyone aside from bob who could stand up to goon ra tcf iac right now, so once bob left and put in whatever tenant, those peope would quickly be ousted. sure bob could come back and help the tenants, but how many times? cant say for goon/tcf/iac, but do you really think ra will leave? think about it. Out of curiosity, where do you think BoB would go next? Is there any superpower in EVE left for them to attack other than RAGOON and friends? One thing I've wondered is if BoB does succeed in becoming the only superpower in EVE, won't their PvPers get bored and leave? i dont see bob, after this war attacking anyone for a few months. in the past they have always taken a while off in between campaigns. however i would put my money on the north, many new alliances born out of pvp are in the process of being installed there, as long as they dont all start fighting eachother the second mc move out it would present a perfect target for bob. i cant see bob's pvp'rs leaving if they are the only superpower. because they are the only actual superpower that has been in the game for many years, and thier numbers have only grown. the alliances bob ever was rivaled by is g and fix, g eventually was defeated and fix got nap'd. since then there has been no alliance that alone could come close to matching bob. every major alliance in the game banding together failed horribly to stop bob. people like to win, therefor people will always want to be in bob. i just hope all of 0.0 isnt eventually made into tenants, im seriously very fearful of the next 6months of this game, it will really have a major impact on this game with what bob decides to do once eve is "won". if the southeast crumbles, there will never be anyone to stand up against bob, without bob letting it happen.
Adm Tecumseh Caldari The Templars Knights	Posted - 2007.05.29 03:52:00 - [196] Originally by: Anton Marx Am I the only one here who finds disclosing private information (copy+paste from internal forums) and providing it to the general public without asking the author utterly disgusting and immoral? I have 0 respect for life-losers such as the OP .... It was posted on a forum that allows people to join. Once put in the public domian it is public property. Besides he quotes his source so it is not plagerized. However you just made a personal attack on another player. That sort of thing deserves a forum ban, Wake Up Hutch your team is slipping.
papaPadla Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 03:59:00 - [197] OK... i got verry confused... since i don't speak goonish , but from what i could gather, mittani's plan is to go have sex with animals waiting and hopping that bob will just leave them alone? i can't bypass the prof filter... but if someone could translate for me please what exactly is: Originally by: The Mittani At night: strategic aholery. During the day: tactical faotry. Many of you underestimate the power of cocfa**ing... to the op: are you sure they are talking about eve? coz i aint got a clue how that kinda ops go... and that power he's talking about could be a new secrit superweapon ... or something -------------------------------------
Adm Tecumseh Caldari The Templars Knights	Posted - 2007.05.29 04:09:00 - [198] Edited by: Adm Tecumseh on 29/05/2007 04:13:31 Reading page after page of this crap just proves how polarized the older ( in eve-time) players in Eve really are. You got the group that believes without a doubt that BoB cheats, has devs on speed dial, that the devs cheat for BoB etc etc. Then when a document is shown that makes one of them look bad they believe without a doubt that it is a fake. The truth be told, Some players cheat, some are even in BoB, and some Devs look the other way. But I have been reading goonfleet.com (by invite) for months. And I have never seen so much stupidity and filth in my life. If it wern't an invite only forum I know that several agencies would be investgating for rasict, hate mongering homophobia, I mean really it has it all. Real down to earth scumbags. I saw the post that was in the op and it is what was posted on the goon forums. I have seen several such posts. I saw where the Mittani ordered the goons to "threadnaught" and get banned to grief CCP forums. If an agent for CCP asked me to provide a transcript of that post I would. Gob, I love you man. Get away from them before your reputation is totally shattered. I am not saying don't fight BoB it is a game after all and if thats what you want to do for fun then have at it. But Get away from the goons. Try to talk to DS-1 as well, They hate BoB for ascn but that is dead, Don't bury yourselves now. LOtsa room in the north to fight and maintain personal dignity.
DiuxDium Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 04:23:00 - [199] Originally by: papaPadla OK... i got verry confused... since i don't speak goonish , but from what i could gather, mittani's plan is to go have sex with animals waiting and hopping that bob will just leave them alone? As a somethingawful.com forum (expert) browser and sometimes (:awesome:) poster, I can easily and with 100% certainty tell you that yes, mittani's plan is to sexually molest house hold pets till you decide to go home. fake edit; ------------- The above user should never be taken seriously.
Veng3ance Illicit Technologies	Posted - 2007.05.29 05:09:00 - [200] Goonswarm is a plague on gaming. Go back to WOW.
w0rmy M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.05.29 05:12:00 - [201] I used to like goonfleet, i always backed the underdogs... But anyone (And I mean ANYONE) who makes it their intent to ruin someone elses gameplay, is a ** and the sooner theyre gone the better. Originally by:** CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness. Originally by: Dianabolic I was never sworn to secrecy, w0rmy, sorry to dissappoint you.
Brunswick2 eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.29 05:24:00 - [202] He never said he wanted to ruin EVE. He said he wanted to ruin their opponent's fun. How is that different from POS wars between any other alliances. The way you win is by ruining your opponents will to fight. You can't do that by just killing them. You have to deprive them of any fun. Make their lives fighting you miserable. That's how everyone (BoB included) fights their wars. Its nothing new. Its nothing shocking. The quotes were taken out of context, and people who were already looking for an excuse to criticize the goonies and Mitanni jumped on the chance. And believe me, I'm not defending the Goonies because I'm their buddies, I have my own problems with Mitanni, but this is simply ridiculous. If I were to go out on a limb, I would say this is probalbly a BoB character assasination post hidden behind an alt to possibly guise the intentions. Then again, judging by the other posts by this alt, I doubt that's actually true. (Even Deathwing wouldn't make threads so pointless)
c0nfucius Say Roid Vandals	Posted - 2007.05.29 05:27:00 - [203] Originally by: DiuxDium Originally by: papaPadla OK... i got verry confused... since i don't speak goonish , but from what i could gather, mittani's plan is to go have sex with animals waiting and hopping that bob will just leave them alone? As a somethingawful.com forum (expert) browser and sometimes (:awesome:) poster, I can easily and with 100% certainty tell you that yes, mittani's plan is to sexually molest house hold pets till you decide to go home. fake edit; quoting for good measure, this is Mittani ftw! Adm: you don't understand goons, gtfo spy! goon's ** off bob so bad that they end up falling right into their trap, COMEDY KILLS! shrike came onto 9-9 station to DD a goon ceptor that was ing bobbits off :DD way to show your force the goon goal!: make CCP wake-up and fix bugs or take advantage of the bugs^H^H^H^Hfeatures that CCP refuses to look at for comedy fun, or as DBP said, play goons in space see you there as for DBP's other comments, Originally by:** DB Preacher From that respect, they haven't dissapointed at all bringing every angle of disrespect against us in some vain effort to destroy our alliance from within. I can speak very personally on this matter as they have tried everything to assassinate my ingame character, even to the point where they were posting rl pictures of me around in order to abuse them. The biggest problem is that they haven't matched that disrespect to our alliance with ingame achievements and in this game, unlike the others that they have managed to tarnish, they are discovering that the only thing that matters in eve is how good you are at pvp. Either way, let them do what they want, let them say what they want, none of it matters one iota when it comes to INGAME because the only thing they consistently achieve is failure. Goons owned LV and their titan how fast? must've been "CCP lied goons died. :(" also, what about BoB's continuous smack talk? unless I'm mistaken, goons do that sort of metagaming way less than BoB Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/05/2007 02:12:15 Originally by: The Mittani Your outrage tastes delicious. Interesting, you focus on the outrage of your enemies as you lose multiple stations a week... I guess you're going to have to taste outrage from Jita, eh? I heard its more difficult to taste it from that range. how does loosing 9-9 count for multiple stations/week? you would've lost one of yours if CCP didn't step in and tell IAC to stop firing on your freighters Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 28/05/2007 16:39:32 Originally by: FireFoxx80 Selective quoting of Goon's Word doc 4tw! It gets worse if you don't selectively quote it. He was doing Mittani a favor. The real question is, who would win in a cage fight, Mittani or SirMolle? depends who built it, if CCP, SirMolle, if someone else, Mittani.
OozoO Caldari Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.29 05:33:00 - [204] Haha, BoB pretending to be the saviors of eve. FACT IS: you ruined the game more than goons will ever be able to do. I'm quitting this crap for being a second class customer and I'm perfectly fine with everything mittani says. Do not discuss moderator actions or troll in your sig. -Kaemonn Email if you understand and your sig will be unlocked.([email protected])
DiuxDium Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 05:44:00 - [205] Edited by: DiuxDium on 29/05/2007 05:43:49 ^^ Escrow me your stuff? Edited by: DiuxDium on 29/05/2007 05:43:14 ohh god quoting that huge block of text made my tables explode, editing to de-crepe the forums ------------- The above user should never be taken seriously.
Ernest Graefenberg Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 05:53:00 - [206] Originally by: Adm Tecumseh The truth be told, Some players cheat, some are even in BoB, and some Devs look the other way. But I have been reading goonfleet.com (by invite) for months. And I have never seen so much stupidity and filth in my life. If it wern't an invite only forum I know that several agencies would be investgating for rasict, hate mongering homophobia, I mean really it has it all. Some real down to earth scumbags. This has warmed my heart in so many ways.
c0nfucius Say Roid Vandals	Posted - 2007.05.29 05:54:00 - [207] no, contract me everything please, I've had to deal with too many multiple DD's lately and I'm broke and can't battle in anything bigger than a frig until I get more isk again, and doing that in a drake takes FOREVER. I want another rokh (on my gf main thanks in advanced)
c0nfucius Say Roid Vandals	Posted - 2007.05.29 05:54:00 - [208] Originally by: Ernest Graefenberg Originally by: Adm Tecumseh The truth be told, Some players cheat, some are even in BoB, and some Devs look the other way. But I have been reading goonfleet.com (by invite) for months. And I have never seen so much stupidity and filth in my life. If it wern't an invite only forum I know that several agencies would be investgating for rasict, hate mongering homophobia, I mean really it has it all. Some real down to earth scumbags. This has warmed my heart in so many ways. do explain
Boliknar The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 06:11:00 - [209] Edited by: Boliknar on 29/05/2007 06:10:08 Originally by: Aries Acheron Originally by: Boliknar And who pray tell would be looking into these accusations. Oh! the very same people accused. Is that not like the fox guarding the chicken coop. Of course CCP is going to say EVE is fair and no wrong doing took place...EVE is their cash cow the dont want to kill it. The fact of the matter is that CCP has been proven to be untrustworthy on its most basic level. And when more allegations are brought forth and we see more efforts to cover them up followed by very well organized and orchestrated forum onslaught by the side they are accused of helping we cannot help but be suspicious of not only CCP's motives but those of the side it has been proven has garnered their special favors. Please, then do tell me how on earth Goonswarm is a more suitable judge of their truthfulness? Or the court of public opinion? The first is an aggrieved party percieving wrongs against them. How can you suspect people defending CCP of doing so 'because they are getting favors'? How about because it is more likely that one party has delivered all this drama specifically to attack the company instead of the issues at hand? Why else would DS1 wait three weeks to put up this drama instead of immediately after it was found? The last time ANY sort of problem happened, it was investigated, then the person who did it was revealed to the public and an apology was issued, an assurance that no more issues would happen, AND it wasn't even a company policy, just one person ditching his crap into the corp hangar. Before you accuse those against you of tinfoil conspiring, look at yourself and how paranoid those arguments sound that you're putting out about some horrible Bo(D) Conspiracy. Lets take your "ahem" arguements one at a time shall we. 1) I never stated who was a better judge of their truthfullness I merely stated that CCP has proven time and time again they cannot be trusted. 2) How can i suspect people of being biased because they have gotten favors. Uhm maybe because it has been PROVEN they got favors. 3) I really dont know why they waited three weeks prolly the same reason CCP waited 6 m onths to remove the BPOs. You would really have to ask them. 4) The last time ANYTHING we know about happened it took an action just like this one to bring it to light. If not foe these actions you and your BOB fiends would still be able to sit around and insult those who thought that there were Devs in BOB dishing out favors. 5) In isnt paranoia if its proven to be true (which it has)
NeverL Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.05.29 06:11:00 - [210] i wonder, how long has it take to "ruin it" in other gamers, like wow, eq, doac?. maybe avarige age in eve is a bit older and goons style of play doesnt work here. afterall when old people hear children whining they make a vasectomy. ----------------- My dream is to become the best forum warrior there is. Even better then Molle Sir.

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