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Ayn Randy
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.02 01:25:00 -
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So im going to be grinding L1's and L2's in a short hile. Question is, what ship should i use?
My training plan accounts for only frigs currently, but all types are available including faction and T2.
What frigate would be the best for blitzing L1-L2 missions? Pimping out the ship is on the cards aswell if it helps. |
Substantia Nigra
NFI industrial Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.02 03:53:00 -
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Level 1 missions. Whatever you enjoy, or feel like, flying.
Level 2s are more suited to low-skill cruiser, but if you can fly any frig including T2s then a good frig (e.g. assault ship) should be fine. If your skills are good then level 2s in t1 frigate are going to be fine. We can build and sell pretty much every ship. Check my bio for details. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |
Dr Roth
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.02 03:59:00 -
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A Dramiel can handle most lvl 2s. Ishkur is usually the PVE ship of choice though. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2012.01.02 04:26:00 -
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When I have done it, I used an ishkur. Dunno if it was the fastest. But it was the most fun. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2012.01.02 07:13:00 -
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It depends on the rats you're facing, but I really liked the Slicer for this. Tried the Worm; didn't care for it and the Ishkur was better. Dramiel and Daredevil were both ok.
Edit: Thrasher is damn near op for this too. |
Shells Dunier
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.02 10:08:00 -
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Caracal, nice cheap ship, fit it for a buffer tank, use 2 drones and light missiles and blast away. |
The Djego
Hellequin Inc. Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2012.01.02 11:42:00 -
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Navy Slicer / Retribution.
For standing grids later on Zealot/Legion are the ships of choice, offering a lot of range, dps, ok speed and superb anti frig ability's. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2012.01.02 12:24:00 -
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I have found the Ishkur to be a wonderful little ship for mission-running. Blasters for up close work, drones for those pesky targets that are too dangerous up close, or simply too far away to be worth MWDing over to. I have also thoroughly enjoyed a Blarpy, rail-harpy, hawk, and jaguar.
What I found to be the most fun was the Ishkur. |
sycore101
Global Economy Experts Stellar Economy Experts
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:39:00 -
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I'm using the Thrasher for speeding through lv1 but only cause i need standings .. dam Amarr
Anyhow .. accepting more than 1 mission a time also helps get things done, i'm currently accepting 2 missions at a time from the same station, lots less docking & getting new missions. |
Kara Books
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:23:00 -
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Bhaalgorn, Like a boss
Rattle, like an epic T2 fitted tinfoil hat
Mach, like you just set turned the easy settings on. |
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ValentinaDLM
Unofficial Master Kuvakei Fan Club
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:46:00 -
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Ishkur, Vexor, Ishtar, Gila, or Arby is my reccomendation.
Aside from drones, an AML tengu really rips through frigs, and moves from acceleration gate to gate quicker than a drake.
Frigs are fine, but in my view, drones are the best weapon system for PVE, especially since you don't need to lock on, the drones can actually kill faster than your lock time in some missions. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2012.01.05 04:23:00 -
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hawk is quite good at lv 1/2 farming. can shoot 1 missile at most ships in a lv1 and they kaboom.
and a frigs lock time is usually faster than drone travel time, although the missile travel time sucks at times. |
Schmata Bastanold
Papercuts Hurt More Than We Do
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Posted - 2012.01.05 07:30:00 -
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Last week I did them in my thrasher with double MSE II and all modules related to speeding up shield regen. Only one or two missions were hard enough to force me to warp out to help my shields get back to ok state but I think it's due to a fact that I did not fit resists proper to type of rats I was facing. Others were easy and no panic button was pressed. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Zachis
TBC
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Posted - 2012.01.05 08:06:00 -
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I've used a Caldari Navy Hookbill to blitz level 1/2s. Fast, selectable damage, nice tank, good range, murders frigs and cruisers. |
CausticS0da
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.05 09:11:00 -
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Drones. Use drones. Last year I had to fix some standings and tried a number of ships on l1s and 2s. Too much flying involved without drones and low range on guns. I guess scorch might make it bearable but as I say, drones will make it as painless as possible. Maybe a Vexxor, Worm, or Ishtar.
If it's about standings do the SOE arc every 3 months. |
Salvia Olima
FREE GATES HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2012.01.10 08:47:00 -
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Just sentrykill out those frigs in a Vexor from the spot you arrived. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2012.01.10 09:03:00 -
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Used a Thrasher back at the time and it was easy. On another alt I used a Caracal and it was even easier, like instant-easy. |
March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2012.01.10 09:25:00 -
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What would you advice for T1 amarr pilot with t2 guns? Slicer/Navy Slicer? |
Kraschyn Thek'athor
Marquie-X Corp
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Posted - 2012.01.10 13:45:00 -
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Coercer, Slicer, Navy Omen
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Mavnas
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.11 21:31:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:What would you advice for T1 amarr pilot with t2 guns? Slicer/Navy Slicer?
Slicer. Accept no substitutes.
It will lock faster and travel to gates faster if those come up. Scorch should give you 15-20km range. Decent skills/AB should push you over 1km/s speed.
I don't know how drone ships would compare, but they take many more SP than a Slicer with T2 guns. |
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Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
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Posted - 2012.01.12 17:17:00 -
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Keep in mind that t2 ships and strategic cruisers are a level up. Assault frigs can't get into some level 1s and HACs and strategic cruisers can't get into some level 2s. I had good times with a worm, gila, and hookbill. Any dps oriented faction frigate should work with both level 1 and level 2 missions. T2 fit destroyers with a good tank should be able to handle most level 2s (and all level 1s, of course).
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Lith Ambraelle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.13 17:23:00 -
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I grinded level 1's and 2's to get my standings up with Amarr and I found the Ishkur did the best. Use a flight of warrior II's. Fair warning, it becomes dead boring and I mostly just sat on the next acccel gate or in the middle of space doing diddly squat. It's kind of like afk mining. I didn't run into a mission where my AF couldn't go into except one or two that required me to shift my hide into a special ship unique for the mission. |
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.15 03:38:00 -
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Lili Lu
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Posted - 2012.01.15 04:46:00 -
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Lith Ambraelle wrote:I grinded level 1's and 2's to get my standings up with Amarr and I found the Ishkur did the best. Use a flight of warrior II's. Fair warning, it becomes dead boring and I mostly just sat on the next acccel gate or in the middle of space doing diddly squat. It's kind of like afk mining. I didn't run into a mission where my AF couldn't go into except one or two that required me to shift my hide into a special ship unique for the mission. This, as you said you can fly all frigs
The Ishkur can be well tanked and you simply release the drones on aggressive in some missions while you motor to the next gate. No need to target anything. Of course if the mission has a respawn you will have to recall them or put them on passive and assign targets for them. Ok, sometimes you will use the guns to provide some extra dps on a cruiser, but the drones can ably kill all the frigs and destroyers you face.
There is an AF buff on sisi. Not sure on the time frame for it hitting Tranq but the Ishkur will only get better. Level 2s are also very doable in a tech I drone cruiser (arby or vexor) for the same reasons and the drone damage bonus. |
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.15 19:35:00 -
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Assuming you have good skills, I'd say a T2 fit dessy with multiple groups of guns would be particularly fast. A rail catalyst or arty thrasher would be good. Cata has a bit more tank and dps, thrasher is faster and has more alpha. |
Alaric Faelen
Aquila Venatici Bringers of Death.
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Posted - 2012.01.16 23:01:00 -
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Level 1 and 2 are barely worth the time it takes to get to 3, and most people will say 3's are only good for getting to 4's. I ground tons of level 3 missions rather than moving to 4's and probably just wasted time doing so.
All that said- from 1-3 level missions, just run a Drake. (some missions won't allow that large of a ship tho)
One ship, it'll solo any of the level 3's easily except Blockade, which you just have to warp in and out a couple times to complete. Anything below a 3 will be laughable. Why get a ship for each? You'll run a couple level 1's at most, anything but an industrial will beat those. A few level 2's that you'll sleep thru in a Drake, then onto 3's where you will gain most of your standing. From there you can either move on to 4's, or if all you needed was standing, you'll have breezed thru everything to that point.
from level 1-3 I've never bothered specifically fitting for the NPC's. Omni tank and Scourge Heavies for every single mission and they are cake walks. Only T1 drone skills, so I'm not even relying on those to do my damage. Other than some missions with ship restrictions- the last ship you need is the only one you need- the Drake.
As an aside, I don't salvage until level 3 either, which speeds up the process of grinding- but I find that salvaging the level 3's usually gets me about double the actual mission pay- in high sec it's essentially like a free mission or two worth of isk, totally safe outside of war decs. A Drake is barely pushing the point at which gankers find them worth going after.
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Cyniac
Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.17 10:02:00 -
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You can actually play a lot with what you mentioned here are my personal favorites:
Ishkur, it gets the job done every time. You won't learn much flying this ship in lvl 1 or 2 missions, as it is a very forgiving ship with great tank and spank for these missions.
Imperial navy slicer - it can do the job but once you get to lvl 2 missions you start to see the impact of manoeuvring around the battlefield. Orbit and shoot can still work but it's definitely suboptimal. Elliptical fly by's to take down ships one or two per pass are fun! Mind you not the fastest way of doing things.
Destroyers (my preferred being the Cat) - come in two flavours, snipers (kite) and brawlers. With these you will learn how far you can push your glass cannon tank and to appraise whether you will blow up first or they will blow up first. A handy skill to have.
Gila - this for lvl 2 as it won't fit in smaller ones. Bear in mind this is the ship you want if you plan on investing in drones and shields, but it's a great ship and overpowered for lvl 2 missions. Unless you are flying outside of highsec it's well nigh nearly impossible to lose in a lvl 2 mission. (Though don't worry, I'm sure there are people who have managed to do just that). The beauty of the Gila is that it allows you to build up to bigger missions. A skill intensive alternative to the Gila is the Ishtar, the vexor / arbi are cheaper but less efficient, and the navy vexor is worth mentioning as being easy on skills but a great ship to learn to armor tank (six low slots!).
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