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Posted - 2007.05.29 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: Jesters Knight on 29/05/2007 18:14:01
the company probably operates on icelandic law, however you are restricted to both your local law and there law.
(thats why **** sites say "if your under your legal age then leave now")
EDIT Pron is blocked as a word....
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Posted - 2007.05.29 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Jesters Knight on 29/05/2007 18:36:24
 Originally by: Reithan
Yes, EULAs are legally binding.
Yes, it's possible to waive a right.
The big one they could be screwed by is that in the US, minors are not legally able to enter into contract, so if you're under 18 in the US the whole EULA is moot.
I dont think that the EULA would hold up in a US cort of law.
most contracts arent worth the paper they are written on (or in this case the space it takes up on the HD) when they are presented into a cort of law.
I agree that they can deny you access to the game but if you conspire to commit murder (assuming that it is legal in iceland) and you are in the US they will still nail you for it even though the medium that you used was "under icelandic laws"
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Posted - 2007.05.29 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: Jesters Knight on 29/05/2007 18:41:01
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Jesters Knight
most contracts arent worth the paper they are written on (or in this case the space it takes up on the HD) when they are presented into a cort of law.
Thats because the american justice system is crap.
not going to argue with that...
however the question was what law CCP operates under, not the players.
i am willing to assume that CCP operates under Icelandic law since that is where there HQ is.
but im not sure what kind of international comes in since WhiteWolf is in the US and they now have the china office.
and the law the player operates under depends on there country (sorry CCP, but my goverment will WTFBQ that EULA if you try and say otherwise and we all know it)
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Posted - 2007.05.29 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
NOTE: I have no horse in this race. Just arguing for the fun and interest of it.
Agree, this is a fun topic to think about
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Posted - 2007.05.29 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: OverKill
Oh, add one more thing...
White Wolf (whom is now CCP's partner) is Incorporated in the United States so US Law might be applicable as well.
So they could make it an Icelandic / United States of America tag team double duo of doom, death and destruction.
dont forget the offices in China, with the three of them going at it deciding who get jurisdiction nothing would ever happen :)
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Posted - 2007.05.29 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dal Thrax
Originally by: OverKill
Oh, add one more thing...
White Wolf (whom is now CCP's partner) is Incorporated in the United States so US Law might be applicable as well.
So they could make it an Icelandic / United States of America tag team double duo of doom, death and destruction.
Wrong White Wolf Inc (a Georgia Company) has merged with CCP North America (a Deleware Company). White Wolf Inc no longer exists as CCP North America is the survivor company. CCP North America is a separate company from CCP Iceland though presumably all shares of CCP N.A. are owned by CCP Iceland.
The corporation filing of both the State of Georgia and the State of Deleware are online.
Dal
see, thats why im glad we have people who know what is going on, i didnt realize this and it makes things a bit different now.
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Posted - 2007.05.29 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: DrAtomic
Despite what the EULA says.... Internet law might put UK law into effect because that's where the actual platform is. Then again I'm no lawyer (allthough have dealt with similar cases through the business I do proffesionally, which always boiled down to: law of where the servers are is the law into effect).
I think we also would need to know the specific item in question to really compair laws.
as well as the person(s) that it is against.
CCP Iceland im srue falls under icelandic jurisdiction, you the user fall under yours, if you do something (ingame or out) to attack someone else (in a legal setting, not the .4 gatecamp) then i think that depending on who was prosicuting who as what cort it would have to go to.
without a specific example the law isnt something that can really have "the word" put down on.
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Posted - 2007.05.29 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: DrAtomic
Originally by: Jesters Knight
Originally by: DrAtomic
Despite what the EULA says.... Internet law might put UK law into effect because that's where the actual platform is. Then again I'm no lawyer (allthough have dealt with similar cases through the business I do proffesionally, which always boiled down to: law of where the servers are is the law into effect).
I think we also would need to know the specific item in question to really compair laws.
My experience in the field is with digital content (i.e. music hosted on a server).
ohhh, fun stuff.
but i was refering to the OP's question
without knowing what the violation and who got violated its hard to say.
i think in this case anything that was electronic is provided as a service, and CCP would simply deny service and ignore (thats what i would do instead of getting into a lawsuit over someone being unhappy about the game)
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