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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
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Posted - 2007.05.31 18:16:00 -
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Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 31/05/2007 18:15:10
One last ditch effort to further improve the performance of a 3 BCU torp CNR is replacing two CCCs with hydraulic bay thrusters (T2 if you can get your hands on them), making your torps quite a bit more speedy and thus increasing range and reducing initial flight time, overkill and maybe also defender success chance. I have not yet noticed an ill effect on my tank (I do not permatank of course, but I have lg-crystals).
Thank you SkyFlyer!
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Red Rumurder
5punkorp
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.05.31 18:16:00 -
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well i am toying with 2 set ups as of right now, 1 is for cruises and the other torps. now i am new to torps so i won't show that one since its a work in progress but thie is my normal mission set up and i have had found no issues.
high
7x T2 Cruise (varying the missile types T1/fury/precision depending on situation)
med
Pith B-Type XL Shield Booster and matching amplifier
Full DG set depending on mission (3 or 4 depending on need - some missions use pith hard)
1x Dark Blood Cap Recharger (only if i run 3 hardners)
low
3x BCS II
2x PDS II
rigs
3x CCC rigs
my ROF is around 7.52 (at work so not 100% on this), my shield boost is over 1139HP every 4 sec, and when going for super tank can get some resists close to 94-95% just with hardners alone (no DCU II). in all honesty there isn;t much more in skills i can do to improve it just isk and desire to spend. my x-type booster is coming soon =)
now Petit you just got the CNR so you may want to try swapping a PDS II out for another 1 or 2 BCS II. the rigs will give you the cap you need from the PDU, the ship all ready has more natural shields than regular raven, and more DPS means fasted pwnage which means you lower your DPS that much faster. also swap out your shield amplifier II right o way. the fitting requirements for it sucks, you can find a descent officer deadspace one for not to much. over all tho your set up is good for about 90-93% of all lvl 4 mission in empire
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Red Rumurder
5punkorp
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.05.31 18:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Castra Noor
Your post is ******** in evry respect.
I can't fly a cruiser - and who are you to know that ?
I use quickfit - no, i didn't even download it.
Your mwd setup: the op asked for a mission setup. Your stupid mwd won't work in missions as it does not work in deadspace, so that mwd/alpha-bragging was completely unnecessary.
excuse me i don't fly this ship but going to post a fitting so i can seem cool, get a life would you. all the rest of us are trying to be constructive and help each other out. take your trolling to general discussion if you want to be like this. before you go lets analyze this rebuttal you gave.
Originally by: Castra Noor
Your post is ******** in evry respect.
****** learn that the red squiggly line is an indication that you misspelled a word and you might want to correct it before someone realizes you are ********
Originally by: Castra Noor
I can't fly a cruiser - and who are you to know that ?
1) the set up you listed is a dream set up and i doubt anyone in game but maybe 2 or 3 that would have something like that. your talking about a 10 bil isk CNR about once everything is counted at contract prices.
2) many ways to find out but most of them would be educated guesses, but from what you posted its obvious (oh and past posts too)
3) you have to know how to fly a cruiser before battleship, so if you can't fly a cruiser how the hell do you fly a cnr?
Originally by: Castra Noor
I use quickfit - no, i didn't even download it.
i just want to offer you a cookie for this. not sure why it just seems like something i would do for the next door neighbors ******** kid
Originally by: Castra Noor
Your mwd setup: the op asked for a mission setup. Your stupid mwd won't work in missions as it does not work in deadspace, so that mwd/alpha-bragging was completely unnecessary.
this just shows your stupidity or lack of useful knowledge. not every single mission is deadspace, they do have ones called encounters. there is a way for your mwd to work there - you turn it on. also he wasn't bragging he was just stating a point of view with credible evidence and not peter pan fairyland information like you.
I apologize to anyone reading this for any harshness that may come across. I love the lack of insults and good advice you get here in this forum and the help everyone shows. I just can't stand people coming in and giving advice about something they know nothing about. this person obviously does not know anything about the CNR other than what quickfit says and has no right offering advice on mission set ups to others. once again i apologize for being rude just don't think noor would get the point any other way
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Castra Noor
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Posted - 2007.05.31 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Red Rumurder
all the rest of us are trying to be constructive and help each other out. take your trolling to general discussion if you want to be like this. before you go lets analyze this rebuttal you gave.
Actually it's you who are trolling here, posting nothing but crap and insults.
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Originally by: Castra Noor
I can't fly a cruiser - and who are you to know that ?
3) you have to know how to fly a cruiser before battleship, so if you can't fly a cruiser how the hell do you fly a cnr?
What a stupid statement. It was the other guy who said that i can't fly a cruiser. Not me. So i simply asked how he can know i can't fly a cruiser for sure if he does not know me ? But ok i see, this is already too complicated for you to understand.
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not every single mission is deadspace, they do have ones called encounters. there is a way for your mwd to work there - you turn it on.
Again this shows you have no clue on the topic but just want to troll and defend a stupid proposal: there are only very few lvl 4s where you can use a mwd, right hand of zazmatazz, damsel in distress, drones attack, stop the thief and maybe 1-2 more. On the other 20+ you can't do it. But even on those where you can it would be still stupid, as the 100mn mwd eats your cap quite fast and cripples your tank. And you don't need a mwd on a raven, as it can fight very well up to 90km, range is not that important, thats why people love it to take in missions. But you obviously again have no clue but only want to troll and insult.
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I love the lack of insults and good advice you get here in this forum and the help everyone shows.
With so much rudeness and insults in your answer this statement shows yuor hipocracy.
Someone with a mental health would say "funny fitting but it's obviously not affordable". I don't know what happened to you in your childhood or why you are so agressive to be that rude and insultive on a post that obviously was not meant as 100% serious fitting advice.
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Kella DelRae
Libertas Contraho
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Posted - 2007.06.01 08:18:00 -
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I want to be insultive!
Oh wait... Firefox underlined that word... I guess it's not a word...
Well what about hipocracy... nope another red underline...
Man, I guess my software is buggy...
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Castra Noor
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Posted - 2007.06.01 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kella DelRae
I want to be insultive!
Oh wait... Firefox underlined that word... I guess it's not a word...
Well what about hipocracy... nope another red underline...
Man, I guess my software is buggy...
I'm sorry. Insultive = insulting (adj). Hipocracy = Hypocrisy. Please forgive me for misspelling. But i hope you understood my post anyways: This kind of thread (fitting for mission raven/cnr) appears every few weeks, many times a year. Here and then people who are tired about reading the same topic over and over allow themselves to make a joke and post stuff like i did (btw it was not even my idea it was already posted in one of such threads): a fitting that would be perfect for missions but is almost impossible to get. In the past people acted more grown up, understood that this was not 100% serious. Nowadays they jump in and start a rude trolling with a lot of hate and agression. That guy who accused me that i have no clue of cnrs, that i can't even fly a cruiser etc. i gave him a harsh answer, showing that his mwd proposal is even worse, as it's not unpossible to fit but would be a very bad idea for missions for reasons posted above. Then his alt/friend/random hater comes here and start to insult even more. That happens today if you try to be funny/ironic. And please forgive me for all the mistakes in this post, feel free to correct me though, so at least there is something usefull for me then 
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lyrenna
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.06.01 10:57:00 -
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Edited by: lyrenna on 01/06/2007 11:00:42
Edited by: lyrenna on 01/06/2007 10:59:01
7xarby siege 1xheavy dim nos
1xpithi x-type large shield booster 1xpwnage painter(long named %30 one) 4x active hardeners(dread pref or t2)
4xbcu(dread if you can i know the 4the giving a little addition but that little addition 1 shot cruiser/bc's \0/) 1xpdu (true sasha)
or you can go for 3xbcu 2xpdu to but i like 4xbcu:D
3xccc rig
eng 5 electronic 5 awu 4 is a must
good (i mean lvl 5) cap/shield skills optional
enjoy
sorry i forgot to adding 5xhoby II and 5xmchammer II
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.06.01 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: lyrenna
Edited by: lyrenna on 01/06/2007 11:00:42
Edited by: lyrenna on 01/06/2007 10:59:01
7xarby siege 1xheavy dim nos
1xpithi x-type large shield booster 1xpwnage painter(long named %30 one) 4x active hardeners(dread pref or t2)
4xbcu(dread if you can i know the 4the giving a little addition but that little addition 1 shot cruiser/bc's \0/) 1xpdu (true sasha)
or you can go for 3xbcu 2xpdu to but i like 4xbcu:D
3xccc rig
eng 5 electronic 5 awu 4 is a must
good (i mean lvl 5) cap/shield skills optional
enjoy
sorry i forgot to adding 5xhoby II and 5xmchammer II
With little extra isk it's possible to use domination sieges instead of arbalest. They are also relatively cheap and have excatly the same fitting req but approx as good RoF as T2 with reasonable skills.
Dread hardeners are as good as t2 just less CPU hungry. With more than once Dread BCu it should be possible to pull off 4x T2 hardeners. If only one or less dread BCU then might need to use 1..2 dread hardeners (depending on other CPU saving skills).
Good setup.
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Dragon Lord
Caldari
research inc
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Posted - 2007.06.02 00:37:00 -
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Well im in the process of changing my setup now, im moving away from cruise toward torps and painters my current setup is 6 dread seige 1 tobias seige
1 gist xl booster pith x boost amp, 2 dread invuls, 2 30% painters.
lows 2 dread bcus 1 kaikka bcu and 2 true sansha cap power relays
2 ccc t1 and a ccc t2
Perma tanks with lowest tanking at 500dps. This is already dishing ot 760dps and once i take torps up the final 2 levels 800+ is well whin my sites
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King Dave
Itto-Ryu
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.03 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: King Dave on 03/06/2007 16:53:49
4x dread cruise, 3x arb cruise, core x heavy nos
Gist C xlarge booster, SBA II, 4x Rat specific tech II hardners..
2x BCU II, 3x True Sansha power diags
edit: 3x CCC I rigs
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Zo5o
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:21:00 -
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I now present the CNR "I win" button for missions:
Hi:
4x Heavy NOS (to drain NPC's so they can't tank)
2x Dual 250mm Railgun II's (for long range)
2x Heavy Electron Blaster II (for short range)
Meds:
6x Drone link augmentors (so your light drones will kill scramming frigs really quickly)
Los:
3x Large Armor Repairer II (3 of these will repair more damage than any mission can dish out)
2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II (so your guns do lots of damage)
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Travissienna
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zo5o
I now present the CNR "I win" button for missions:
Hi:
4x Heavy NOS (to drain NPC's so they can't tank)
2x Dual 250mm Railgun II's (for long range)
2x Heavy Electron Blaster II (for short range)
Meds:
6x Drone link augmentors (so your light drones will kill scramming frigs really quickly)
Los:
3x Large Armor Repairer II (3 of these will repair more damage than any mission can dish out)
2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II (so your guns do lots of damage)
try 4xmedium pulse laser they pwn and pewpew and a ab ofc
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Hephaesteus
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:14:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Zo5o
Edited by: Zo5o on 03/06/2007 18:10:46
I now present the CNR "I win" button for missions:
Hi:
4x Heavy NOS (to drain NPC's so they can't tank)
2x Dual 250mm Railgun II's (for long range)
1x Heavy Electron Blaster II (for short range)
1x Medium Pulse Laser II (for medium range)
Meds:
5x Omnidirectional Tracking Links (so your light drones will kill scramming frigs really quickly)
1x 10mn Afterburner II
Los:
3x Large Armor Repairer II (3 of these will repair more damage than any mission can dish out)
2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II (so your guns do lots of damage)
Nice ideas Travis!
So cunning, so simple. I cannot believe I never saw it before.
Setup your CNR like this before it gets nerfed.
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Lord Phrofet
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Posted - 2007.06.08 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Hephaesteus
Originally by: Zo5o
Edited by: Zo5o on 03/06/2007 18:10:46
I now present the CNR "I win" button for missions:
Hi:
4x Heavy NOS (to drain NPC's so they can't tank)
2x Dual 250mm Railgun II's (for long range)
1x Heavy Electron Blaster II (for short range)
1x Medium Pulse Laser II (for medium range)
Meds:
5x Omnidirectional Tracking Links (so your light drones will kill scramming frigs really quickly)
1x 10mn Afterburner II
Los:
3x Large Armor Repairer II (3 of these will repair more damage than any mission can dish out)
2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II (so your guns do lots of damage)
Nice ideas Travis!
So cunning, so simple. I cannot believe I never saw it before.
Setup your CNR like this before it gets nerfed.
I admit I am a still slight noob...but wouldn't that take away the whole point of caldari ships being used as missle platforms?
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Hephaesteus
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.08 18:21:00 -
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Nah, if you are going to mission run in a CNR that's the setup you want.  
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William Alex
Viscosity
Dark Synergy
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Posted - 2007.06.08 19:08:00 -
[46]
Stop with the posts of rubbish setups please.
Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
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Waagaa Ktlehr
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.08 20:33:00 -
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This is what I use to destroy missions:
Hi
7x DG Siege Missile Launcher
1x Tractor Beam
Med
Gisti C-Type XLarge Shield Booster
DG Shield Boost Amflifier
3x DG Hards (Mix of specific/invuls)
1x PWNAGE Painter
Low
3x DG Ballistic Controls
2x Capacitor Flux Coil II
Rigs
1x CCC II & 2x CCC I
runs the booster perma. Sometimes I swap out the amp for a 2nd painter if I feel comfortable about the mission. Can also switch to T2 cruise for those missions that have almost no BS targets.
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Hephaesteus
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.11 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: William Alex
Stop with the posts of rubbish setups please.
Damn just when I was going to post my rocket CNR setup.
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firepup82
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.06.11 13:28:00 -
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7 cruise 2's, 1 heavy diminishing NOS
1 Pith B SBA, 4 Pith B rat specific hardeners. 1 Gist X XL SB.
2 PDU 2's, 3 Dread BCU's
2x CCC
1 Semi conductor memory cell
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