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Jason Arbitor
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Posted - 2007.05.30 13:40:00 -
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Now that it looks like most of the flap about frieghters has died down I was wondering if now would be a good time to try to discuss a new ship class.
For those who do not know what a Q ship is, it is a warship disguised as a frieghter or some other sort of merchant ship. Through out history these ships were used to get close to enemy merchant ships and destory them.
Why don't we have that in EVE?
A battle ship built to look exactly like a frieghter flying around looking for pirates to pounce on, or other merchant vessels. I would think it would shake things up a little for those who look to pounce on defensless friehgters only to find a ship that can actually fight back and conversly those who think, "hey there is another merchant ship cool I don't need to warp out" only to find them being fired on.
Now I am not saying they should be god like with the ability to destroy 20 domi's in a single fight but given enough firepower and defense to make sure the pirates know they made a mistake that is going to cost them ships and money.
Now to the exact make up of the Q ship, well that can be fleshed out I just wanted to talk about the concept.
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CaptainSeafort
Gallente
Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2007.05.30 13:42:00 -
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freighter warp to belt = suspicious. target warps out.
battleship blob attacks freighter, "freighter" returns fire with firepower+armour of a BS. dies.
its a nice idea, but no chance 
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Pewpewdude
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Posted - 2007.05.30 13:52:00 -
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we already have battle haulers
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar
Temptation inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 13:54:00 -
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i want a facehugger ship.. that can "attach" itself upon otherships and **** it over!
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Koi Yokuma
Praetorian BlackGuard
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Posted - 2007.05.30 14:01:00 -
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You have a better chance of getting a q-tip in game than you have of a Q ship.
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Alski
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.30 14:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Chode Rizoum
i want a facehugger ship.. that can "attach" itself upon otherships and **** it over!
Its called a Nos-domi. 
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Aleranie
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Posted - 2007.05.30 14:30:00 -
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Considering q-ships were generally considered failures in real life as it stands, I doubt they would use it in the far future.
Armed merchant ships are problematic for numerous reasons, the primary being designing a class of ship to forfeit the initiative is a losing proposition from the get-go.
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Ragnor Dayton
Amarr
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.05.30 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ragnor Dayton on 30/05/2007 14:59:17
This sounds more like an idea for T2 freighters
Freighter cargo space and system access, carrier / dreadnought firepower and tank.
But make it only be able to target ships that have already fired on it. edit: Oh and Concord doesn't respond when one is attacked in empire
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Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.30 14:59:00 -
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someone mentioned space whales, thats as close as i can imagine :p
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.05.30 15:08:00 -
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I feel sure this isn't a new idea, but can't we have a mask for our ships?
In the same way the protocloak can mystically convert a ship of any size with a highslot into an invisible ship of any size with a high slot, can we not mask a ship with a highslots as a different ship entirely?
You can even have some skills relevant if you like, cloaking, surveying to counter, etc, sig size considerations, range to "unmask" etc.
Covetors masquerading as Domi's. Domi's masquerading as covetors. Minutes of fun.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
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Posted - 2007.05.30 15:47:00 -
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In this age of freighter-popping in high-sec, I think these could potentially be useful as decoys. The only problem would be cargo scanners - Q ships would need to have a way of producing a false scan result.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
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Posted - 2007.05.30 15:47:00 -
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In this age of freighter-popping in high-sec, I think these could potentially be useful as decoys. The only problem would be cargo scanners - Q ships would need to have a way of producing a false scan result.
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dark haller
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Posted - 2007.05.30 16:16:00 -
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Q-ships were not all failers in ww2 a germen comers rader as thay caled them sank 2 reserv battle crusers and a destroyer in the same fight and sane 35-40 convoy-sips including a full convoy of 10 ships that was rounding the horn in its live not counting smaller escort ships in its kill lists it was fitted with 4 10in battle cruser guns and 10 5 in guns + 20 mm canins and a catapolt to lontch a scout plane it oparated off of austraila fore 2 years befor it was sunk bi a ausi battleship and armed mertchintmen witch gut a luckey hit with a max range shot from its 14in guns
the ship lives so long bi quickley killing its foes and steailing theait idents the ship was allos used to saport the long randg XXI uboats operating in the south
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Professional Troll
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Posted - 2007.05.30 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: dark haller
Q-ships were not all failers in ww2 a germen comers rader as thay caled them sank 2 reserv battle crusers and a destroyer in the same fight and sane 35-40 convoy-sips including a full convoy of 10 ships that was rounding the horn in its live not counting smaller escort ships in its kill lists it was fitted with 4 10in battle cruser guns and 10 5 in guns + 20 mm canins and a catapolt to lontch a scout plane it oparated off of austraila fore 2 years befor it was sunk bi a ausi battleship and armed mertchintmen witch gut a luckey hit with a max range shot from its 14in guns
the ship lives so long bi quickley killing its foes and steailing theait idents the ship was allos used to saport the long randg XXI uboats operating in the south
Yes, German Q-ships had a modicum of success, but that's because the Allies weren't operating under a NBSI policy.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.30 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: dark haller
Q-ships were not all failers in ww2 a germen comers rader as thay caled them sank 2 reserv battle crusers and a destroyer in the same fight and sane 35-40 convoy-sips including a full convoy of 10 ships that was rounding the horn in its live not counting smaller escort ships in its kill lists it was fitted with 4 10in battle cruser guns and 10 5 in guns + 20 mm canins and a catapolt to lontch a scout plane it oparated off of austraila fore 2 years befor it was sunk bi a ausi battleship and armed mertchintmen witch gut a luckey hit with a max range shot from its 14in guns
the ship lives so long bi quickley killing its foes and steailing theait idents the ship was allos used to saport the long randg XXI uboats operating in the south
Every language I have ever heard of uses some form of punctuation.
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Arakidias
Murky Inc.
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.30 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: dark haller
Q-ships were not all failers in ww2 a germen comers rader as thay caled them sank 2 reserv battle crusers and a destroyer in the same fight and sane 35-40 convoy-sips including a full convoy of 10 ships that was rounding the horn in its live not counting smaller escort ships in its kill lists it was fitted with 4 10in battle cruser guns and 10 5 in guns + 20 mm canins and a catapolt to lontch a scout plane it oparated off of austraila fore 2 years befor it was sunk bi a ausi battleship and armed mertchintmen witch gut a luckey hit with a max range shot from its 14in guns
the ship lives so long bi quickley killing its foes and steailing theait idents the ship was allos used to saport the long randg XXI uboats operating in the south
Every language I have ever heard of uses some form of punctuation.
And besides, Q-ships were a british invention to deal with submarines. The theory was that a submarine would surface either because of seeing a target too small to waste torpedoes on (Q-ships were usually small merchantmen), or to follow the rules of war, which didn't happen much after the first year of ww1, and would then be engaged and sunk by the hidden guns on the Q-ship.
The ships germans used for raiding were classed as armed merchant cruisers.
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Khanivore
The Kingsmen
The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.05.30 16:40:00 -
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Here was my take on this in the Features and Ideas Discussion section Q-ships
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.05.30 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Pewpewdude
we already have battle haulers
and how nicie they work too !
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