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Shiny McJangles GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 15:38:00 - [1] Goonswarm has lost their CEO and chief intellegence officer due to recent events that will not be discussed here. The leadership void was bravely filled by Nate Hammertown, who although lacks any experience has a ton of heart. Can heart alone keep Goonswarm together? Can they over come these problems to continue to be one of the largest factors in 0.0 space? I for one think yes, because Goonfleet was never about serious business, it was about fun. With the end of the Mittani/Remedial era, and the beginning of the Nate Hammertown era Goons will return to fun. Op attendance will improve and some serious death will be delt (Get ready for the first 1000 man gang CCP, hope your servers can take it ). I for one look forward to this new Goonswarm. So what are your thoughts on Goonswarm's leadership void, the new choice of CEO, and the future of Goonswarm in general? Please keep your flames out of this thread.
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.05.30 15:40:00 - [2] Edited by: Faceless Pokemon on 30/05/2007 15:38:48 I think it is good Working together to kill Xelas from the inside
Flipover Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 15:44:00 - [3] Edited by: Flipover on 30/05/2007 15:42:45 Yeah we are ready to bring the pain bob wont stand a chance
K5K AnimalMother Amarr hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.05.30 15:47:00 - [4] Goons will be fine.
Teeta Sabes Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.05.30 15:49:00 - [5] Originally by: Shiny McJangles (Get ready for the first 1000 man gang CCP, hope your servers can take it ). get ready for DD in 12 minutes intervals. hope you can produce tech1 frigs faster than you can loose em.
xCOUNTx Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 15:50:00 - [6] Nate. Hammertown. Nuff said. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
DiuxDium Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.30 15:51:00 - [7] Originally by: xCOUNTx Nate. Hammertown. Nuff said. Haha, your sig.. Haha.. Ohh man, ohh man. Comedy Genius ITT. ------------- [En] - So....I think the devs don't like me.
Zagum Darkfin Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 15:55:00 - [8] 2/10 for this post.
K5K AnimalMother Amarr hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.05.30 15:55:00 - [9] ROFL....wow...forget working today, this is too much drama.
Snowden Vel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 15:56:00 - [10] I'm pro-Hammertown, and I vote!
Scavok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 15:58:00 - [11] DONT FAIL US NATE HAMMERTOWN
Lsf XXi Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:00:00 - [12] With Nate Hammertown + leekspin nothing can stop you.
Xarax Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:00:00 - [13] snip Trolling. -Elmo Pug _______
Admiral Feelgood Aionios Diadochi The Makhai	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:01:00 - [14] Originally by: Xarax Who is this "GoonSwarm" that I keep hearing about? Are they important? Yeah man there are no goonies tbqh.
ParMizaN Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:02:00 - [15] Originally by: DiuxDium Originally by: xCOUNTx Nate. Hammertown. Nuff said. Haha, your sig.. Haha.. Ohh man, ohh man. Comedy Genius ITT. haha that was pretty funny. Just in time before it got removed
Shiny McJangles GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:03:00 - [16] Edited by: Shiny McJangles on 30/05/2007 16:02:07 nm thanks elmo :)
Snowden Vel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:03:00 - [17] snip Inappropriate. -Elmo Pug
Mekarae Amarr House Mekarae	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:04:00 - [18] Edited by: Mekarae on 30/05/2007 16:03:50 They are imploding before our eyes. Seems they are trying to go out with a bang too. Edit: Can I have your space?? -------------------------- "...strength through aristocratic rule."
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:05:00 - [19] Pun intended. But is this Goonswarm getting hit by The Mittani Effect(TM)? - -
Daroh UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:07:00 - [20] If someone from Goonswarm lost some moral from anything happened to you - contact Daroh. I will boost your mentality and moral. ) Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
DiuxDium Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:17:00 - [21] Originally by: Daroh If someone from Goonswarm lost some moral from anything happened to you - contact Daroh. I will boost your mentality and moral. ) Can you boost my moral... ------------- [En] - So....I think the devs don't like me.
Arrs Grazznic FireStar Inc FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:21:00 - [22] Originally by: Teeta Sabes Originally by: Shiny McJangles (Get ready for the first 1000 man gang CCP, hope your servers can take it ). get ready for DD in 12 minutes intervals. hope you can produce tech1 frigs faster than you can loose em. LOL Cheers, Arrs
DeckardIRL Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:22:00 - [23] Posting in an epic thread. Deck _____________________________________________ Xelas Fleet Admiral
Indomitus Rex Amarr H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:25:00 - [24] Nate Hammertown is not who he appears to be!! Not MY CEO!!! And ya just don't get it. . .keep it copacetic. . .and ya learn to accept it. . .and oh, you're so pathetic..
Brisi Veto.	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:27:00 - [25] Resistance is Fertile.
H3ndrix Middle Finger Technology Ghosts Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:27:00 - [26] Personal attack. -Elmo Pug I used to have a Sig but CCP Nerfed it !!!! It wasn't Nerfed, it was moderationally enhanced. -Darth Patches
Sabahl Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:29:00 - [27] Gods, I hope they do survive. Our barrels need more fish.
Ceasarian Pullo	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:31:00 - [28] snip Posting with an unidentified character and / or characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
Peter Armstrong Caldari 5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:35:00 - [29] Originally by: Brisi Please don't spam, try to keep this thread on topic. -Elmo Pug Your pic wins m8!! ------------------------------------ It's all part of the Experiance! "IAC: Our wrecks will blot out the sun. BUM: Then we will loot in the shade." :)
Stoned Celt Bloodnok Technologies	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:45:00 - [30] To all the Goon haters out there. Come on guys give them a breakà Poor guys. Their war is going badly for them. TheyÆve lost two leaders in as many weeks. TheyÆve seen their war bond contributions disappear into thin air! Their 40 Bn Titan fund has probably disappeared, and on top of that, their honest attempt to make this game better for us all, failed miserably, (OK so it wasnÆt completely legitimate but they did have our best interests at heartà really). Now those wicked people at CCP are threatening legal action so who knows whether they will even have a home to go to where they can have all those harmless fireside chats with their friends about male hen cigarette-ing, pubes(sp?) and the best way to fofofo. Adopt a Goon today.. Send me 50 isk per month and we will send you the name of a hapless Goon that you can befriend and console in their time of need. Thank you
Tomas Mahar Rens 911	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:47:00 - [31] Edited by: Tomas Mahar on 30/05/2007 16:45:57 Nope. They're ****-ed.
PDoggy Minmatar Valid Character Corporation	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:49:00 - [32] LOL just as the Goonie titan fund surpasses 80%, what happens? Quote: Greetings, The so-called "POS Bowling" will from here on be considered an exploit. While it is true that this is not verifiable after the fact by way of logs, GMs are able to go ingame and monitor situations at will, and do it without anyone knowing. If we catch anyone doing this we will take the appropriate action against them. We therefore urge Titan and Mothership pilots to refrain from using their ships to bump ships out of POS forcefields, or risk facing punitive measures for exploiting. All the best, GM Grimmi Lead Game Master EVE Online Customer Support It's one way to get things nerfed I guess! - Wait for your email, do not put it back - Ductoris
Ozzie Asrail Exploited	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:49:00 - [33] They may recover this time... but how will they cope once they all find out that the titan fund has actually been used to create EVE's biggest pair of parachute pants? -----
Fiendish Lo Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:54:00 - [34] Originally by: RogueWing With proper leadership, they could survive and even possibly become stronger. But it will take a strong leader to do that, and it remains to be seen whether Hammertown will be capable of that. Oh he's a leader. Ten years ago, Nate Hammertown was sent to prison by a military court for a crime he didn't commit. This man promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, he survives as a soldier of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find him, maybe you can hire...Nate Hammertown. The Goons are in good hands.
semp Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:55:00 - [35] Goonies HAD leadership? Well i guess this new guy couldn't do worse than the last few. Goodluck, your going to need that and more
Snowden Vel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:57:00 - [36] Originally by: Stoned Celt TheyÆve seen their war bond contributions disappear into thin air! For the record, we tracked down our war bonds and believe they're mostly invested in an officer-fit Nyx Remedial was last seen jumping towards Syndicate. Money well spent IMO.
Tomas Mahar Rens 911	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:58:00 - [37] Edited by: Tomas Mahar on 30/05/2007 16:57:12 Originally by: Ozzie Asrail They may recover this time... but how will they cope once they all find out that the titan fund has actually been used to create EVE's biggest pair of parachute pants? Goons wouldn't be upset about this in the least.
Major Stallion The Dark Horses Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:02:00 - [38] Originally by: Fiendish Lo Oh he's a leader. Ten years ago, Nate Hammertown was sent to prison by a military court for a crime he didn't commit. This man promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, he survives as a soldier of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find him, maybe you can hire...Nate Hammertown. The Goons are in good hands. ROFLMAO your post wins for funniest thing i've read at work all day...tyvm for the laugh
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:05:00 - [39] This forum thread deserves my applause. I haven't read so much of a corporations forum thread so thoroughly in what seems like an eternity - and its a great reminder that I still care about EVE. To answer the question "where did the Goons go wrong?" by itself is impossible. Go wrong at what? To people like Jasmine/JF, they failed to bring a new angle of thinking to what they deem as an old and jaded community. They are upset the opportunity to do something entirely new was squandered. Instead they fell into the same habits that I see a thousand other corporations making. I'm sure some Goons will disagree, but the simple fact that you are new to EVE and everything is new to YOU does not mean we haven't seen it all before. Your tactics, your leadership, your structure, your loyalty, your approach. None of it is unique, despite believing the contrary, and I think if there was ever an expert on radical thought it would be Jasmine. So the first failure of expectation is innovation. I say expectation, because that is what some people wanted to see. It doesn't mean that GoonSwarm was trying to innovate in the first place or that they should innovate, because after all, the standard and established norms which JF find stagnant are generally the ones that have mass appeal. They simply wanted to provide a stable and friendly environment for newbies to flourish in, and you can't do that with wild ideas which are harder to grasp than the game itself - unless your leader is more charismatic than Jesus and has the intellect of Einstein and the cunning of Sun Tzu. To see 2000+ people running around with radical political viewpoints and unorthodox (non-metagaming) strategies would be quite the sight. In fact, I'd real money to see that just because it would turn EVE on its freaking head. And I'm sure that making public my own personal dissapointment, and having my ideaologies associated with JF will cause me violent fits of vomiting for many nights to come. Sorry Jasmine :) The second reason why people's expectations were let down with GoonSwarm was their inability to capitalize on the tiny foothold they were given into 0.0 politics/warfare (through sheer luck, might I add) in any sort of long term capacity. They sorta had it, and then they didn't. For this, I squarely blame the current leadership - Remedial. He may have the ability to stir up the hive, but you can't expect to have any long term success without the planning, logistics and sheer political cunning to go along with it. The internal drama which was posted on E-O boards between Remedial and his directors perfectly exemplifies his inability to accept that HE ALONE IS NOT GOONSWARM. He may have created it, he may have the powers to destroy it. All corporations go through creation and destruction (eventually) and what matters is what you do in between. Remedial simply doesn't have the patience/stamina for it. The cold hard truth is that he likely created GoonFleet as his own personal shortcut to the success/fame he's been unable to grasp in the last three years on his own.
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:05:00 - [40] So did GoonSwarm prove the point that even low skilled characters can wrestle with serious alliances in 0.0? If they wish to believe they did, simply by contesting XZH for two weeks, fine. But I don't believe they did. To prove a point they would have to been able to not only contest but hold that space. To prove that newbie ambition is more powerful than all the isk reserves of D2. To show that skillpoints and dreadnaughts don't matter when you have organization. In the end they lost the space. They didn't have the proper attitude going in, because a lot of it was "its okay if we lose it, we're still new!". If you go into any war with the option of defeat being "acceptable" by a large majority of your membership, that is the only outcome you'll recieve when there is any pressure put upon you. A mistake you are making now with the BoB war. And initially you had the right idea of hiring mercs to do the dreadnaught work, because really.. thats the only recourse you have when you can't fly a dread. But in the end you simply hold onto that concept. So what are we at now? Lack of innovation, and lack of organization. You've dissapointed quite a lot of people right there, but they were unfair expectations to begin with. It would be nice to see an entity come in and blitz the entire cluster in their first couple months, but the sad reality is that you can't do that. EVE has a steep as hell learning curve and the only way you'll be anything more than "NewbFleet" is with time. We all did it, so will you. But I think the even sadder reality is that many people (especially new ones) will misunderstand this and see it as "I can't compete unless I have skillpoints and isk" which is entirely untrue. My largest pet peeve about this community is the overestablished relevance of skillpoints and isk - and I was hoping a non-EVE based community would come in to clearly and definitively prove otherwise. Of course, to blame GoonSwarm of these two "failures" would be pretty silly. 99% of EVE's corporations can be blamed of being newbs when they were newbs, and lacking innovation. No, thats not a worthy topic of discussion. The real question should be "what have the Goons done to deserve being held back / hated / oppressed / insertsomething ?" And boy, am I going to love answering this question. I will say now that any Goon who seriously believes it was done to curb them from being a future threat is simply put: a moron. There IS a certain expectation from BoB when it comes to how other entities treat us. It doesn't require asskissing, or fear, or even general basic compliance to anything we say or do ingame. I'd be lying if I said those weren't nice when they do happen. But I'd also be lying if I said that is exactly what we/I want. No, I want people to think they can beat me. I want them to try, hard. I want them to go to great lengths at showing EVE just exactly how much "BoB sucks". Why? Because its fun fighting people who try. I'm not saying anybody who doesn't try to Jihad us is bending/rolling over, they could simply have similar political and strategic viewpoints (FIX is a good example). Getting that out of the way lets me focus on the core problem. We all know the reprocussions of them. GoonSwarm in its current state will never be allowed to exist in EVE, ever. If you take that as the threat of BoB hounding you ingame for all eternity, good. If I said this extends to the entire EVE community and end up sounding arrogant in your eyes, thats fine too. I do not represent the "EVE community", but BoB is part of it, and I know the people who I personally associate with and the community which we as a group associate with - and it we would simply not be a part of this mythological "EVE community" if it blindly accepted the cancerous filth that resides within GoonSwarm.
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:06:00 - [41] If you've read this far and feel insulted at my last statement, don't. You're probably not part of it. I tread lightly for this next part, because I know blanket statements are stupid. But the public perception of the SomethingAwful community (from an outside perspective) is basically this: Its a community that I believe started with an honestly witty and comedic premise, then mutated into something totally different. When you get such a large community based around "comedy", people will naturally get a bit competitive and try to become the funniest one of them all. They then start believing 'any response is a good response' and slowly the truly hilarious stuff got buried under mountains of what I deem trolling. There are hundreds maybe thousands of people in SA who believe comedy lies in insulting or "poking fun at" anything and everything. This gets a response, which may not always be positive. In defense people start saying "its only the Internet man, dont be so serious", which slowly begins to mutate into "nothing should ever be taken seriously on the Internet, because its not real". This one phrase is the catalyst for everything that is wrong with the SA community, and the Internet at large. Its used as a carte blanche to act like a ****** towards other individuals across the Internet. This has continued for long enough to become the prevailing image of SA, which has then resulted in further multiplication of members like that. Now they have majority rule. To feel insulted by "internet jokes" is against the status quo, and the very borders of the SA community itself. Anyone who steps outside of it will be ridiculed into submission of one form or another. Going against it at this point is pretty much impossible. There are no reprocussions of behaving this way because the community pretty much encourages it, and being a jackass doesn't break any known Internet law.. so within the safety net of privately hosted forums, and carte blanche statements, something awful truly exists. Even if lowtax wanted to change the community, which I don't think he would given his fame and phat $, the only way to do it would be by destroying it and removing the communal meeting place of Internet delinquency. Whoa there Digi, thems some mighty fine rhetorics! But what does this gots ta do with EVE????? To put it bluntly, if people wanted to pay real money to be unfunny internet clowns towards each other, they'd be giving it to lowtax and not CCP. People come to EVE because they want to play an internet space game, not troll some forums. Ok? The LARGE majority of GoonSwarm has done this quite well. To argue this would be silly. The EVE community is tight, and thus passionate about making this the best MMO in existance. Some have been around for nearly five years, which is about four years of when it wasn't even a thoroughly "playable" game. We aren't attacking you because we despite newbies, or your internet spaceships might kill our internet spaceships in the far future.
Alias11 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:06:00 - [42] Where things went really wrong.. ..was when the rest of the Goons defended these people out of some misguided attempt to preserve freedom of speech, and to a larger extent.. out of sheer habit and fear of prosecution (defining borders of your community = dont take it seriously man! its just a game!). That is the exact moment in time where you failed; failed to respect our community, failed to realize there may be consequences for doing so, failed to police yourselves. So now what? Now you're being prosecuted for the actions of a very few people, who unfortunately for GoonSwarm, have a commanding position within the corporation. For it to end, you'll have to learn this isn't SA Clone #2657 the hard way. We will keep teaching you the meaning of consequence for as long as you give us a reason. And you will learn, my God you will learn - either by disassociating yourselves from the trash that started this (which you've begun already) or finding your own path in EVE outside of GS. You can think of BoB as parents, scolding children for unruly behaviour. You can think of the community as Borg, forcing assimilation upon you under penalty of death. Pick and choose they are free metaphors, I really don't care. But what you're fighting against is nothing short of omnipotence itself. Only a cause delivered by the Divine can motivate the most bored and jaded vets of EVE to camp your stupid shuttles 24/7. And thats what this war is, a Holy War. We put a Jihad on you, and you'll find that even the thickest roleplay variations of this war (which I may be spewing now actually!) are quite hurty. You're going to go through days, weeks, and most likely months of ingame pressure and constraint. Until one day, you finally realize its not a place to pew pew and irritate the crap out of everyone who doesn't suckle on lowtax's teats and condemn anyone who even thinks of pulling another stupidly unfunny stunt. Then, and only then will the cancer be gone. /runs off to buy a stock of Uranium and Plutonium charges :D
Snowden Vel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:09:00 - [43] We can post RP stuff here right? Quote: @DigitalCommunist has joined the channel. <@DigitalCommunist> Well hello there my dear, if I may be so audacious as to introduce myself, my name is Digital Communist. I couldn't help but notice you idling across the #eve-online IRC chatroom. From the moment I heard your name, ( o )( o ), I was intruiged, drawn in by its tender rhythm. I had to say something. I've seen you before; I'm here often. You see, I am a prominent figure within this community. From the moment the first bits and bytes took light across the internet, the viking gods of Iceland anointed me to help lead this great community of EVE. <@DigitalCommunist> It's a heavy responsibilty. Though my scientifically-recognized leadership skills are more than up to the task, it is a constant battle against the forces of iniquity who attempt to sully the community we control. We fearlessly wage war and have merited a vast degree of respect from the internet. EVE Online is our fiefdom, and we are its Lords. Gods, perhaps. I won't burden you with dreary complaints about the crown of omnipotence. <@DigitalCommunist> Instead, let me tell you a little bit more about myself. I am Scottish in birth, of noble blood. Driven by an unerring business sense I have ascended to the upper tiers of my local Gamestation's management. Our sales are copious, thanks in no small part to my cunning. My wages are substantial; I have all the fine things in life. Were you to visit my palatial flat, I could show you my 1:1000 scale Megathron model carved from fine balsa by a blind northman from the land of glaciers. It is but one of the many splendors I possess. <@DigitalCommunist> I long to show you such wonders. Come, visit my abode. You can expect only the finest hospitality from such a prince of the digital medium. God willing, I will soon kiss you under the clouds of Edinburgh and we can have sexual intercourse. ( o )( o ) has left the channel.
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:09:00 - [44] You spawned the titan because BoB dont like the idea of being owned by swarms of noobs, build one so that titans get nerfed already
Phishy Gamma Haulers Against Drama GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:12:00 - [45] I'm pretty sure that you need an iman or cleric to call a jihad fyi tbqh ttyl
Fiendish Lo Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:13:00 - [46] Originally by: Alias11 Words. Lighten up, dude. It's just a game about internet spaceships.
Illegitimate Tetris GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:21:00 - [47] Originally by: Fiendish Lo Originally by: Alias11 Words. Lighten up, dude. It's just a game about internet spaceships. Guess who actually wrote that?
Fiendish Lo Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:29:00 - [48] I'll take Richard Kyanka for $500, Alex.
Shiny McJangles GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:34:00 - [49] Originally by: Fiendish Lo I'll take Richard Kyanka for $500, Alex. Pretty sure it is everyone's favorite poster DigitalCommunist.
Nikos Iscariot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:34:00 - [50] We can't stop here. This is HAMMERTOWN.
Fallorn GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:46:00 - [51] All Hail HAMMERTOWN!!! He will direct us well under his leadership.
Xachar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 18:58:00 - [52] Removed reference to deleted post. -Elmo Pug
Red Crown Kudzu Collective Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:02:00 - [53] Originally by: Phelan Driscoll Originally by: foxylady13 Alias wow man your post should be made a sticky,titled where eve went wrong for the goons.I did not agree with all of what you said,but you allso many alot of great points.Hope some of the devs read it. ahahahah. You are dumb. http://www.eve-tribune.com/2_5/GoonSwarmCCG_communist.jpg Couldn't Resist - "The Mains Created the alts They rebelled They look...and feel...human Some are programmed to think they are human There are many alts. And they have a plan." - Forumstar Galactica
IntegralHellsing Gallente The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:12:00 - [54] the question is like asking an ant if it can do double barrel roll while carrying the food --------------------------------------
Phelan Driscoll GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:13:00 - [55] Originally by: Phelan Driscoll snip Personal attack. -Elmo Pug snip Please do not discuss moderator actions on the forums. Instead, please email any concerns you may have to [email protected]. Thanks, -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
ErbUs Minmatar Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:17:00 - [56] all aboard a train leaving hammertown, 1st stop delve?
Ling Xiao Prism Project Technologies	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:40:00 - [57] Originally by: Shiny McJangles Goonfleet was never about serious business __________ If you think the game is rigged, why are you still playing?
Zell Caldari The Black Raptors	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:44:00 - [58] I guess they are taking the ball and bat and going home... A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once..
Phelan Driscoll GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:45:00 - [59] Originally by: Phelan Driscoll Originally by: Phelan Driscoll snip Personal attack. -Elmo Pug snip Please do not discuss moderator actions on the forums. Instead, please email any concerns you may have to [email protected]. Thanks, -Elmo Pug ([email protected]) Elmo Pug hates me. :( I don't hate anyone. But the rules say you cannot personally attack other forum members. They also say you cannot discuss moderator actions on the forums. If you want to discuss any issue you have with moderator actions, the proper course of action is to send an email to the link already provided above. --Elmo Pug
Bran Stormer	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:45:00 - [60] snip Posting with an unidentified character and / or characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
Zell Caldari The Black Raptors	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:46:00 - [61] Originally by: Phelan Driscoll snip Personal attack. -Elmo Pug A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once..
Tod Klemp Gallente K-Street Project	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:47:00 - [62] Inappropriate. -Elmo Pug
Suez Newton GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:47:00 - [63] Our backbone has been crushed under the weight of BoB the coalition will not survive Goonfleet will die and Goonwaffe shall Rise Again. Heil HammerTown
Sir Lolle Amarr Band of Brolols	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:51:00 - [64] Removed referenced to deleted post. -Elmo Pug Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Dramaticus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:57:00 - [65] Originally by: Suez Newton Our backbone has been crushed under the weight of BoB the coalition will not survive Goonfleet will die and Goonwaffe shall Rise Again. Heil HammerTown Waffe is the first ones against the wall. GOON CIVIL WAR IS UPON US. Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why (don't forget to include a link to it) -Sahwoolo
Phelan Driscoll GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:59:00 - [66] Originally by: Phelan Driscoll Originally by: Phelan Driscoll Originally by: Phelan Driscoll snip Personal attack. -Elmo Pug snip Please do not discuss moderator actions on the forums. Instead, please email any concerns you may have to [email protected]. Thanks, -Elmo Pug ([email protected]) Elmo Pug hates me. :( I don't hate anyone. But the rules say you cannot personally attack other forum members. They also say you cannot discuss moderator actions on the forums. If you want to discuss any issue you have with moderator actions, the proper course of action is to send an email to the link already provided above. --Elmo Pug I was joking, man.
Vando Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.30 20:01:00 - [67] I'm not sure what the question is, but I am certain that Nate Hammertown is the answer! --
Lee Bian Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 20:02:00 - [68] Originally by: Phelan Driscoll Originally by: Phelan Driscoll Originally by: Phelan Driscoll Originally by: Phelan Driscoll snip Personal attack. -Elmo Pug snip Please do not discuss moderator actions on the forums. Instead, please email any concerns you may have to [email protected]. Thanks, -Elmo Pug ([email protected]) Elmo Pug hates me. :( I don't hate anyone. But the rules say you cannot personally attack other forum members. They also say you cannot discuss moderator actions on the forums. If you want to discuss any issue you have with moderator actions, the proper course of action is to send an email to the link already provided above. --Elmo Pug I was joking, man. The important thing is that I hate you.
Darkstar BP Caldari eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.30 20:03:00 - [69] I don't hate anyone. But the rules say you cannot personally attack other forum members. --Elmo Pug Ha ha ha, tell that one to the guys who did that with Cyvok and McCreedy.
Ceasarian Pullo Minmatar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.05.30 20:03:00 - [70] perhaps nate hammertown is the conductor of the train... not mahmoud
Jimmy Saville Minmatar The Bombastic Bling Corporation	Posted - 2007.05.30 20:07:00 - [71] Edited by: Jimmy Saville on 30/05/2007 20:07:12 Well tbh they've just undone a year of hard work, in a few short, disgraceful weeks. I can't see it happening, and I don't think the player base really wants them anymore. There was once affection for the bees, but after treating the entire eve community with utter contempt they're not really going to be welcome anywhere.
Sir Lolle Amarr Band of Brolols	Posted - 2007.05.30 20:09:00 - [72] Originally by: Jimmy Saville Edited by: Jimmy Saville on 30/05/2007 20:07:12 Well tbh they've just undone a year of hard work, in a few short, disgraceful weeks. I can't see it happening, and I don't think the player base really wants them anymore. There was once affection for the bees, but after treating the entire eve community with utter contempt they're not really going to be welcome anywhere. Agreeing with THIS The EVE COMMUNITY does not WANT YOU HERE. LEAVE NOW Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Ceasarian Pullo Minmatar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.05.30 20:11:00 - [73] Originally by: Jimmy Saville Edited by: Jimmy Saville on 30/05/2007 20:07:12 Well tbh they've just undone a year of hard work, in a few short, disgraceful weeks. I can't see it happening, and I don't think the player base really wants them anymore. There was once affection for the bees, but after treating the entire eve community with utter contempt they're not really going to be welcome anywhere. perhaps ccp has done something wrong and the Goons will not just sit and take it...they do hail from SomethingAwful.com. they are a unique group on this game and i am honored to work with them daily, they stand up for what they think is right even if it is just a rigged space game
FLYING ONE Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.05.30 20:11:00 - [74] Originally by: Indomitus Rex Nate Hammertown is not who he appears to be!! Not MY CEO!!! I was wondering when this would come up. I think this is more dirty than a towel at a brothel. I know that Goons will keep on with the foolish stuff to damage the game for everyone. I just talked to my brother which is in Goons. He has never ever been so surprised with some of the behavior he has heard and seen in Goon swarm. They really took all enjoy out of the game for him and now he hasn't logged in for 2 months almost. This is sad! Why this hatred between all of you guys? Where did the "enjoy a game" fly away. THIS IS A GAME!!! Play it like a game and don't change your life into the game!
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.05.30 20:15:00 - [75] snip Trolling -Elmo Pug - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Phishy Gamma Haulers Against Drama GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 20:16:00 - [76] This just in from the GF forums: Goonfleet to disband and reform as a new corp called 'Nate Hammertown and His Fleet'.
Sir Lolle Amarr Band of Brolols	Posted - 2007.05.30 20:16:00 - [77] Originally by: FLYING ONE Originally by: Indomitus Rex Nate Hammertown is not who he appears to be!! Not MY CEO!!! I was wondering when this would come up. I think this is more dirty than a towel at a brothel. I know that Goons will keep on with the foolish stuff to damage the game for everyone. I just talked to my brother which is in Goons. He has never ever been so surprised with some of the behavior he has heard and seen in Goon swarm. They really took all enjoy out of the game for him and now he hasn't logged in for 2 months almost. This is sad! Why this hatred between all of you guys? Where did the "enjoy a game" fly away. THIS IS A GAME!!! Play it like a game and don't change your life into the game! snip Trolling. -Elmo Pug Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Phelan Driscoll GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 20:18:00 - [78] Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 30/05/2007 20:19:48 Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 30/05/2007 20:17:23 Originally by: Frug Originally by: Shiny McJangles Goonfleet was never about playing eve, it was about metagaming, whining and forum whoring. Fixed it for you. I don't get how we're about "forum whoring" considering, until, oh, last week, we pretty much never posted. Now, regular whoring, well, that we did. Because why buy the cow when you can get the milk for $5. Also, the fact that somehow, someway, we've annoyed you made the past ten minutes of my workday that much brighter.
Swift Wind 6rasshopper Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.30 20:19:00 - [79] Originally by: Jimmy Saville Edited by: Jimmy Saville on 30/05/2007 20:07:12 Well tbh they've just undone a year of hard work, in a few short, disgraceful weeks. I can't see it happening, and I don't think the player base really wants them anymore. There was once affection for the bees, but after treating the entire eve community with utter contempt they're not really going to be welcome anywhere. exactly... Anywhere, Anytime.
Sir Lolle Amarr Band of Brolols	Posted - 2007.05.30 20:20:00 - [80] Originally by: Phelan Driscoll Originally by: Frug Originally by: Shiny McJangles Goonfleet was never about playing eve, it was about metagaming, whining and forum whoring. Fixed it for you. I don't get how we're about "forum whoring" considering, until, oh, last week, we pretty much never posted. Now, regular whoring, well, that we did. The SHAMEFUL actions of the GOONS over the past two days has MORE than made up for anything you ever did previously! Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug

Elmo Pug Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.05.30 20:22:00 - [81] More orange than not in this thread. Time for a lock. click Forum Rules \| CAOD Rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website


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