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Tohmu Blackwing	Posted - 2007.06.30 18:45:00 - [31] Edited by: Tohmu Blackwing on 30/06/2007 18:46:42 Originally by: Jessamine *Note: Some factions do NOT give storylines Interbus is a good example as is Servant Sisters of Eve Wait.... I am about to begin the process of repping my Gallente and Min standings by running missions for Sisters of EVE - and I wanted to find a mission hub with sisters agents that send me to sisters storyline agents. There are several of them. Are you telling me that Sisters have no storyline missions, even though they have storyline agents? I need to know this before I move all my crap to the new system I chose for this purpose... thanks. EDIT: ok, in the time it took me to get a drink and post this, someone posted ahead of me and answered my question for me. Yes, sisters DO have storyline agents. Good. Thanks. I have a thread on this topic found here. Tsanse Kinske replied to my post with some excellent suggestions on how to find agents. I will repost her suggestions here, with full credit going to Tsanse for the great tutorial. I agree that Eve-Agents.com is a great site, but there are some limitations to it. You might want to try out Grismar's agent locator. It is a little less intuitive but much more powerful. Here is what I did to find sisters storyline agents: (modified from Tsanse's post) Select "show agents" in the first drop down box, at the top of the screen, below the "Main \| Help \| FAQ \| Login" links. Select "...in region with name containing..." and the region you want to search in. Select "offering function" and type in "storyline missions" (without the quotes) That's it. This will show you all storyline mission agents in that region. If you want to narrow the search, then add another parameter to your query. You can search for a specific corporation or faction by: Select "belonging to a corp with name containing" and the name of the corp (sisters) that you want to work for, or Select "belonging to faction with name containing" and the name of the faction you want to work for. You can also limit by level of agent, quality of agent... and so on. Really a great tool. For quick searches, I use Eve-agents.com. For advanced searches like this, Grismar's will probably be better to use.
Tohmu Blackwing	Posted - 2007.06.30 18:54:00 - [32] One minor observation - aren't all storyline agents "Level 1" agents? There are no such things as "Level 4 storyline agents," are there? I thought you would get the same agent if you were running level 1, 2, 3 or 4 missions...?
1Reykjavik1	Posted - 2007.06.30 19:10:00 - [33] Originally by: Tohmu Blackwing One minor observation - aren't all storyline agents "Level 1" agents? There are no such things as "Level 4 storyline agents," are there? I thought you would get the same agent if you were running level 1, 2, 3 or 4 missions...? You will get the closest storyline agent of that proper faction based on where you did the 16th mission. To my knowledge all storyline agents are listed as level 1 but thats misleading. The storyline agent (level 1) will properly give you the correct level storyline mission (1, 2, 3, 4, 5?) based on your previous grinding.
Selene Le'Cotiere Amarr Dark Oracle Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.01 01:25:00 - [34] Excellent guide dear. I'll certainly have to put it to the test when I head on out there.
William Alex Viscosity	Posted - 2007.07.10 14:06:00 - [35] Awesome guide. Please give us a 1 depth skill queue CCP.
Rhaegor Stormborn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.09.13 02:43:00 - [36] Originally by: Toria Nynys I retract my recommendation for Aldilur as the minmatar courier hub of choice. While there are 5 agents in that dead end system turns out Astrogeology hands out about 75% kill missions over the long haul. While Cargo Delivery 'kill' mission is a good one to do in a shuttle, the Worlds Collides and Extravaganzas and Right Hand of Some Dumbass and their ilk clog up your mission list sooner rather than later. Still looking for a viable Minmatar courier hub. Suggestions would be very very very welcome. I would like to raise my Minmatar Republic faction asap, anyone suggest a good courier mission hub for Minmatar? Currently running level 4 kill missions in Gelfiven and it will take forever to make 6.0 faction standing at this rate. Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread
Kelbesque Crystalis Minmatar	Posted - 2007.09.14 17:05:00 - [37] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Originally by: Toria Nynys I retract my recommendation for Aldilur as the minmatar courier hub of choice. While there are 5 agents in that dead end system turns out Astrogeology hands out about 75% kill missions over the long haul. While Cargo Delivery 'kill' mission is a good one to do in a shuttle, the Worlds Collides and Extravaganzas and Right Hand of Some Dumbass and their ilk clog up your mission list sooner rather than later. Still looking for a viable Minmatar courier hub. Suggestions would be very very very welcome. I would like to raise my Minmatar Republic faction asap, anyone suggest a good courier mission hub for Minmatar? Currently running level 4 kill missions in Gelfiven and it will take forever to make 6.0 faction standing at this rate. There looks to be a semi viable hub in Antiainen in the Lonetrek region working for Core Complexions. You have to bounce through low sec to get there, but there is a story agent, and 5-10 courier agents. I've onyl really scouted out Lonetrek since its close to my corp HQ. I am sure there is some good spots in Heimatar.
Stefx Gallente Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.09.28 18:51:00 - [38] Hi I'm looking for a high sec Gallente system with a good concentration of courrier agents. Any suggestions?
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.28 21:39:00 - [39] Originally by: Hockston Axe Lvls 1-3 system Asrios Carthum agents faction goldmine: If you don't mind the high sec of the systems (all are 0.8 in the area) there are several high quality (+16 & +20) lvl 4 combat agents in the area, a nice lvl 3 Kaalakiota combat agent, and storyline agents for Carthum & Kaalakiota. Running couriers from Asrios it's a 5 jump straight line route every time due to the jump layouts down there. It's the most predictable and quickest courier route I've found. Not for the beginners but I'd recommend using a blockade runner with warp speed rigs. It can travel nearly 3 times faster than a T1 hauler (warps @ 12.8 AU/s vs 4.5 AU/s, with a much faster align), and makes a huge difference when doing the fedex thing. This is probably the best spot anywhere if you want Carthum Conglomerate standings (for R&D). A cheaper option is to use an Exequror with agility rigs. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
Stefx Gallente Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.09.29 03:17:00 - [40] Sorry I forgot to mention I want to increase my Gallente faction standing, so I need gallente corp agents. Carthum is Amarr.

Colonel Branigain Midnight Suns	Posted - 2007.09.29 20:08:00 - [41] just my two cents: I run alot of sisters of eve missions out of osmon. Every 16-18 missions I do a storyline eve-mail from a zainou biotech agent two jumps over... not sure if this is a bug or if its how the good sisters are supposed to act, but thats what seems to be throwing my SOE standing through the roof. Just some information for the community to digest. Flame away We hate Mirph, its the kind of personal, deep down loathing that makes you pet your favorite gun and smile. Yes we hate Mirph, the kind of hate that keeps our lasers warm, and our railguns low on ammo
Nobuo213 Gallente Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.09.29 23:50:00 - [42] Gallente hub please. :D
Contralto Gallente Argolighthands Galactic Emporium	Posted - 2007.09.30 13:29:00 - [43] Try Everyshore for Gallente couriers., I based out of Marosier,0.6, which has a Creodron lvl 4 Q18 manufacturing agent and Quafe lvl 4 manufacturing Q1 agent, doing the above mention system of accepting missions along the route will give over 8 lvl 4 courier agents in a 3 or 4 jump range. My Creodron standings are 9.78 as a result of a couple of months spent there. Unfortunately the storyline agent is a Garound bank agent in Aclan, which is as obscure as they get. I have a 10 standing to them as a consequence :(
Yadee	Posted - 2007.10.01 10:36:00 - [44] If you get -5 standing with someone, minmatar in this example as mentioned you will if you get really high caldari standing, does that mean minmatar NPCs/sentry guns will shoot you down in minmatar npc empire space ? Or is it only your characters security rating that matters in terms of standings with NPCs ?
Simen Looswe Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.01 11:56:00 - [45] whats the (ballpark) amount of isk+LP/hour you rake in doing courriers in this fashion? I'm not in it for the standings, i might even decline the storylines to prevent gallente hate, but i'm wondering about the income(money/LP) on this style of mission farming.
Motokko Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.01 15:02:00 - [46] Since a lot of people are asking about minmatar courier hubs and I'm badly procrastinating at work I thought I'd have a look. It definately seems that minmatar get shafted on this front, I've not really found anything that fit all the criteria at once (ie many courier agents, dead-end or corner system, deep in high sec). Only counting agents which offer courier missions at least 90% of the time here's the best two systems I've found so far: Gulfonodi - Molden Heath Agents 2x Lvl 1 4x Lvl 2 1x Lvl 3 1x Lvl 4 Number of gates : 2 Nearest low sec system : 2 jumps Nearest storyline agent : 0 jumps (Astro) Eram - Metropolis Agents 1x Lvl 2 3x Lvl 3 1x Lvl 4 Number of gates : 4 Nearest low sec system : 3 jumps Nearest storyline agent : 1 jumps (Marketing) The biggest problem with these really seems to be their proximity to low sec systems so its going to be hard to do many of these ones afk. Any other large grouping of courier agents I've found have actualy been located inside low sec space. I have a feeling that rather than looking for single systems with large amounts of courier agents you might find better locations by looking for systems which contain fewer agents but are very close together and so can be considered a joint hub. I havn't gotten around to looking out for these yet (its much harder to try and collate the data), but if anyone has any luck I'd like to hear it.
Wagstaff	Posted - 2007.10.01 22:29:00 - [47] Which divisions give mostly courier missions? I tried to grind out some quick courier missions (for Gallente) but I still seem to get 50% kill missions. I was using Marketing agents from Chemal Tech, and Marketing was supposed to be 95% courier from the info I'd seen online. Is it possible the mission mix of various divisions changed since those pages were written? Thanks.
Asheyla Vareen	Posted - 2007.10.02 00:40:00 - [48] Originally by: Wagstaff Which divisions give mostly courier missions? I tried to grind out some quick courier missions (for Gallente) but I still seem to get 50% kill missions. I was using Marketing agents from Chemal Tech, and Marketing was supposed to be 95% courier from the info I'd seen online. Is it possible the mission mix of various divisions changed since those pages were written? Thanks. This person voiced something that's concerned me with this particular method as well. For me, my question is, what happens when those agents all give you kill missions? I've tried to stick with courier agents before and 5% kill missions seems a bit wrong to me. After about 10 kill missions in a row I decided to stop. So, what's the guarantee that they're going to give you courier missions, and how much does it throw you off when you get 3 or 4 in a row? I know you're not completing those kill missions in that indy.....are you??
Motokko Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.02 08:57:00 - [49] Originally by: Wagstaff Which divisions give mostly courier missions? I tried to grind out some quick courier missions (for Gallente) but I still seem to get 50% kill missions. I was using Marketing agents from Chemal Tech, and Marketing was supposed to be 95% courier from the info I'd seen online. Is it possible the mission mix of various divisions changed since those pages were written? Thanks. Marketing is 50/50 kill/courier. The best courier agents are from archives, distribution, manufacturing, production, and storage. Check it our for yourself here
Garat Mant Minmatar Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.10.04 18:00:00 - [50] Some standings increase examples with Social 4: Highsec level 4 kill storyline: 0.83 gain Highsec level 4 trade storyline: 0.07 gain Highsec agent, Lowsec level 2 kill storyline: 0.32 gain Highsec agent, Lowsec level 2 courier storyline: 0.17 Definitely try to get kill missions for your storylines, so do that last courier mission close to a Security or Command storyline agent. -G -- CEO, Moons Of Pluto industrial corporation. Contact us in game for ice/rock mining contracts and manufacturing.

Hugh Hefner Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.10.05 11:56:00 - [51] Is there a limit to the "stacking up" of storylines?(except the obvious time-limit) = can one ever lose a storyline-offer due to having to many unfinished ones?
GreGh Rakrot Naughty 40	Posted - 2007.10.06 11:49:00 - [52] Maybe this was answered in some other thread already (if so link please) Im trying to get standing to Minmatar corp with R&D agents high enough to use those agents. I do not have any standings to that corp yet. Will doing courier missions (and storyline) for another corp in Minmatar Republic faction (and thus increasing this faction standings) help me in anyway with standings to corp that I want to do R&D agents for (Core Complexion or Boundless Creation). Scenario im hoping is possible: 1 - I start with 0 standings to Boundless Creation, can only do lvl 1 agents. 2 - I do lots of courier/storyline for some other Minnie corp. 3 - I can do lvl 2 or 3 agents with Boundless Creation now beacuse my faction standings are increased. Is this possible ?
Contralto Gallente Southern Tallen Labs	Posted - 2007.10.07 06:15:00 - [53] Originally by: GreGh Rakrot Maybe this was answered in some other thread already (if so link please) Im trying to get standing to Minmatar corp with R&D agents high enough to use those agents. I do not have any standings to that corp yet. Will doing courier missions (and storyline) for another corp in Minmatar Republic faction (and thus increasing this faction standings) help me in anyway with standings to corp that I want to do R&D agents for (Core Complexion or Boundless Creation). Scenario im hoping is possible: 1 - I start with 0 standings to Boundless Creation, can only do lvl 1 agents. 2 - I do lots of courier/storyline for some other Minnie corp. 3 - I can do lvl 2 or 3 agents with Boundless Creation now beacuse my faction standings are increased. Is this possible ? if I read your question correctly, if you pick a high quality lvl 1 agent in a 0.5 preferably, then grind up till you can access a lvl 2 also in a 0.5, your corp standings will rise quite quickly but also your faction wont be far behind due to the resulting storylines, Once faction hits 4.65 or there abouts you can access low Quality lvl 4 agents for any corp under that faction. But note that you require Corp standing as well as faction to access R&D agents. If you want to grind Boundless up to 5 for the best Lvl 4 Mech Eng agent you can use the lvl 2 combat agent in Hek, I could find no better alternatives in hi sec For Core complexion there is a good courier agent "Olsagard Enguflod" a lvl 4 Q0 Manufacturing agent in "Eram" 0.8 with a Core storyline agent close by here is a link to a current thread with a bit more info. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=608058&page=1#9
Lugburz	Posted - 2007.10.07 11:31:00 - [54] Edited by: Lugburz on 07/10/2007 11:33:38 Edited by: Lugburz on 07/10/2007 11:33:05 Kamokaur (or any data centre) is a good place for quick standing increase if you got the spare cash for tags "the Faction ship offers from the Cosmos agents." about that, whats the standing required for them? I know which ones they are already and am trying to get faction up for the same reasons ..... Umokka you say?.....
Contralto Gallente Southern Tallen Labs	Posted - 2007.10.07 14:54:00 - [55] Originally by: Lugburz "the Faction ship offers from the Cosmos agents." about that, whats the standing required for them? I know which ones they are already and am trying to get faction up for the same reasons 8.5 = frig 9.2 = cruiser 9.91= BS modified by connections lvl 4
GreGh Rakrot Naughty 40	Posted - 2007.10.07 19:55:00 - [56] Originally by: Contralto if I read your question correctly, if you pick a high quality lvl 1 agent in a 0.5 preferably, then grind up till you can access a lvl 2 also in a 0.5, your corp standings will rise quite quickly but also your faction wont be far behind due to the resulting storylines, Once faction hits 4.65 or there abouts you can access low Quality lvl 4 agents for any corp under that faction. But note that you require Corp standing as well as faction to access R&D agents. yes you understood question correctly and thank you for good reply
Reol Renor Caldari StarLight Inc. Prismatic Refraction	Posted - 2007.10.24 19:45:00 - [57] Edited by: Reol Renor on 24/10/2007 19:55:05 Hi this is mostly for the OP but if anyone could give me some tips i'd be glad. I have some trouble with the optimization of the waypoints. It's all fine until I have over 10 waypoints then the game gives me a message saying that it might take some time to calculate the optimal route. It takes a few seconds but i can live with it. But if i have over 12 waypoints the game tells me "This will take a lot of time!" and it does i have tried once and the game chrashed. This makes it very difficult to do both lvl 2 and lvl 3 at the same time as it doesn't take mych time before you have over 12 missions and waypoints. My solution right now is that I'm only doing the lvl3 missions but it feels like I'm missing out a bit and that it would be more effective to run both lvl2 and lvl3 at the same time. Does anyone have a better solution? EDIT: Oh, and one more thing. What are these faction ships you talk about? Where do you get these and is it only the standing rec or is there some other cost? Or have i just been owned ?
Mesuno Azure Horizon Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.10.28 00:26:00 - [58] That is a classic example of a Postmans Walk problem... what path does the postman take to deliver with the least distance traveled. The problem is that each extra node (waypoint in this case) increases the number of additional computations that need to be done by a multiple of the total number of waypoints already there. When you get above 10 or so it has to do so many calculations that it ties up the CPU and the game crashes/hangs. Basically don't optimise at those levels and make do with a partially optimised route. And thanks to the OP, this is a very helpful thread! Originally by: t20 If it's not fixed by the christmas holidays, I'll most likely get fired. - on the forum "!" problem
Jessamine Freedom United	Posted - 2007.12.03 05:09:00 - [59] Edited by: Jessamine on 03/12/2007 05:15:01 I've recently reactivated so I'll be looking at optimizing this for other factions as well. So far Caldari is ridiculously easier than any other, though Gallente looks like it could have some good ones in the Everyshore region and the surroundings. As always check eve-agents.com (thanks to Chribba) and look around! I onyl wish you had more advanced searching on eve-agents, such as exclusing low-sec and searching for only agents that share a station with another agents of the same lvl/type. Oh well, you can dream Edit: I'll check out Grismar, and see how it is. There used to be a download, EVE Maps, that had all the agents and you could set things up in it. Very nice but I don't know if there was a new version since the rerouting of all the stargates. Also, to the best of my knowledge there isn't a limit on how many storylines you can have available at a time, I had 6 this past weekend. Problematically, the game keeps picking them farther and farther away from you and one may end up in lo-sec A Guide to Boosting Faction Quick!
Nostejio Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.12.11 11:46:00 - [60] I can't remember the system, but, for minmatar there is a low sec system with 3 q20 agents all in the same system, all you need is a stabber to run missions for them since it's only 3. Dunno may be worth looking into. I noticed minmatar seem to have more low sec L4's than the rest.



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