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Jarna
Amarr
Eve University
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Posted - 2007.05.31 01:39:00 -
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Edited by: Jarna on 31/05/2007 01:40:19
The following link is to a post that was just made. The OP asked a question and was directed to an area in the forum and the recently released Investigation Report; both of which DO NOT answer his question.
Question Post
The majority of people are not necessarily disputing the fact that CCP employees should or should not play EVE. Many MMO's allow their employees to play (but in these other MMO's noone is allowed to know you are an employee and you are not supposed to use these powers for certain people or yourself). The majority of questions and concerns are related to the fact that:
>> CCP employees play in corporations and players in these corporations know that they play and have direct connections to these employees outside of established Petition and Bug Report systems. Basically getting "special treatment" when it comes to priority of getting things solved.
Is this true? Players don't know. But that is why they ask because they want (and should deserve) an answer to this simple question. A policy of allowing the "game-testing" characters of CCP employees to be known that these accounts belong to employees will INEVITABLY lead to people questioning CCP's stand on player/employee relations and whether there are measures in place to keep these employees from treating their "friends" differently than any other player in the game by giving them priority over other people/problems.
Am I saying that any of this is true either way? No. But, people want to know and people want to know policies. They want to know if this is true.
People just want to know that there is something stopping this from happening.
We know that CCP employees are allowed to play, and we understand that CCP endorses this for bug-testing. But that isn't the question people have anymore. They understand that. They just want to know what's in place to keep cheating from happening, whether it has happened or not.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.31 01:42:00 -
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Ever thought that if someone has the email/MSN/whatever of a dev, that they might have no idea who the dev is ingame? They might just have met them as the fanfest, told them about a few bugs that they should fix, and been told "hey, MSN me if you find any more"?
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max bygraves
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Posted - 2007.05.31 01:42:00 -
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who cares ?
chill out and play the game.
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Dario Wall
Caldari
Setenta Corp
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.31 01:43:00 -
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Looks like his questions were answered in the the locked thread. I see no reason for this one.
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Jarna
Amarr
Eve University
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Posted - 2007.05.31 01:47:00 -
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Hmm..it seems most people don't get it.
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Dario Wall
Caldari
Setenta Corp
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.31 01:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Jarna
Hmm..it seems most people don't get it.
Or this thread is just flamebait. Seriously, if you want to discuss the same issues over and over, why not post about them in one of the open threads about the issues?
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Maelstrom Crew
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Posted - 2007.05.31 01:52:00 -
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No, it seems you guys don't get that most people don't care.
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Bors
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.05.31 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jarna
>> CCP employees play in corporations and players in these corporations know that they play and have direct connections to these employees outside of established Petition and Bug Report systems. Basically getting "special treatment" when it comes to priority of getting things solved.
I know ccp has stated on multiple occasions that yes, they do play EVE on regular accounts, and all have various roles assigned to them within that character. However, they've stated that these characters true identities (IE that the char you are flying with is a dev) is kept secret. If that secret is released, then that char is deleted and the CCP employee must terminate all contact w/ the other members of that corp/alliance.
The issue regarding having a dev/gm on msn contacts is no different then if you wanted to contact that dev/gm over irc (of which there is a channel, publicly posted, that ccp employees are in frequently, and you can convo them in that channel privately)
The times in which a CCP employee has overstepped the boundaries assigned to them (IE said they were a GM, did actions favoring their corp/alliance etc) were dealt with by the internal affairs office of CCP. It seems some of the public believe if one must do it, they all must.
Realize that this game is more then a game to them, and more to them then it is to anyone playing it. It's their daily paycheck. Why would they sacrifice feeding their families so that their corporation can destroy a POS? Why would they give up their careers because nobody would hire them again if they wish to hasten a petition? 99% of them won't cross that line, a very select few might, and are always dealt with through the proper means.
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Aramova
Gallente
Middle Finger Technology
Ghosts Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.31 02:02:00 -
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Edited by: Aramova on 31/05/2007 02:00:43
I think a better question is why CCP would allow a group of people who launched a planned denial of service attack against them continue to play the game.
I think that deserves an answer just as well.
And IBTL, posting about locked threads is not a good thing.
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Sirene Archai
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Posted - 2007.05.31 02:12:00 -
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Edited by: Sirene Archai on 31/05/2007 02:12:43
EDIT Hmmm..this is Jarna....i dunno why it switched to an alt....so obnoxious.
I didn't talk about the actions of a moderator.
I just used it as an example to help facilitate my post that the question people are really asking isn't is CCP allowed to play the game. We all know that. People are aksing what is in place as sa***uards. And questions are being unanswered and redirected to wrong answers because the questions are being misinterpreted.
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Bors
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.05.31 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sirene Archai
People are aksing what is in place as sa***uards. And questions are being unanswered and redirected to wrong answers because the questions are being misinterpreted.
it's called INTERNAL AFFAIRS and the PETITION SYSTEM! some people really need some sterile swabs for their ears..
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CogInTheWheel
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Posted - 2007.05.31 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Ever thought that if someone has the email/MSN/whatever of a dev, that they might have no idea who the dev is ingame? They might just have met them as the fanfest, told them about a few bugs that they should fix, and been told "hey, MSN me if you find any more"?
Or, hypothetically, the dev/gm/whatever might have been a friend/corp/alliance mate previous to CCP employment. That creates a potential conflict of interest. |
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Ductoris
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.05.31 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dario Wall
Looks like his questions were answered in the the locked thread. I see no reason for this one.
We have a winner.
We have more than one open thread about this in the eve info portal. The Devs are reading those threads and you can expect they will see it there.
Please do not repost locked threads, continuing to do so will result in a warning.
finally, if you have a question or comment about moding please email us, the link is in my sig.
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