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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.01 09:52:00 -
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Oh LORD you really have lost it 
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1) warp core pentalized to the point that they cant be used even after Interdictors were added to counter warp cores
Because they were never meant to be an I-Win button in solo PVP, where you could just escape if you were going to loose. Now they are used on travel fits. Interdictors don't work in lowsec, and not everybody plays in 0.0 yknow.
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2) warp cores are pentalized but their counterpart, the warp disruptor, gets no such penalty.
So because an overpowered module should be nerfed to allow ships to be caught by a warp disruptor, the warp disruptor should be nerfed TOO to completely remove the point of the first nerf?
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3) target jammers are based on a chance, that seems to fail far more than it should, so that people who spend many months training all the "extra" target jamming skills up to level 5 have little to no chance of jamming down more than 1 enemy ship.
And one ship should be able to disable 3 - 5 of similar sized ships? Right.
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4) sensor damps, which require very little skill to use, become far more powerful than regular target jammers, and while target jammers get backup arrays to counter them, sensor damps have absolutly no counter in-game (i know sensor booster are suppost to, but a scorp with 8 sensor boosters on it can not lock past 10K if an arazu jams it with 3 sensor damps)
But wait! What's this?! Oh, target jammers are SOOOOOOOO underpowered when you can only jam one ship, but because damps can too, OMFG GIEF NERF PLZ!
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5) ALL of therecon ships. The idea that a ship can warp cloaked and then uncloak and have the power to jam, warp disrupt, web, and paint a enemy ship from over 50k is a terriable idea. It gives players who have hours on end to sit AFK in systems and then wait for the perfect gank opportunity a way to do so while taking no risk at all to their own ship.
Learn to keep up. CCP are nerfing afk cloaking in the near future.
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6) The speed at which all small ships move is so far beyond what it should be. To have ceptors busting in/out going 14k/s as a regular thing should be the case (and is why the recon ships were put into the game in the first place, because CCP chose not to fix the more pressing problem of small ships being too fast!) With these smaller ships being able to go at such speeds where no other ship can stop them before they have closed the distance between their ship and you, it makes sniper battles impossiable, meaning that all fighting has to be done at close/medium range between battleships, which ususaly means that the larger blob wins, or that the side that doesnt lag out wins.
Oh noes, I can be tackled by a well kitted frigate, designed to hit rediculous speeds...
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7) LAG. I know CCP wants to see more big fleet battles, and I think that is great, but there is a reality that we all need to face which is that with the EVE servers as they are, they can not handle the load of 100-200 people fighting one another.
Yeah, this is the first point so far that has been semi-logical. But with rev 2.0, CCP are bringing in all kinds of client optimisations to help reduce lag during fights like this dramatically!
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.01 09:53:00 -
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8) The way in which players conduct battle does not support anything other than mega fleet battles. One group will camp a gate with a large force, another large force will come in and the 1st group will run and call for backup, and then once they are far bigger than the other group, they will come back, at which point the other force will run and call for backup. This constant calling for backup and the need for a giant fleet that is able to absolutly destory the enemy causes the giant fleet battles that we are all so familiar with now. I know that CCP had originaly planned 20 vs. 20 or 30 vs. 30 fleet battles to be common (or at least i think they did based on their introduction of logistics ships a few yrs ago) but those battles will never happen becuase each side will just call for backup
Right, so every engagement ever is 200v200 is it? During my time in SMASHKILL, I never had a 200 v 200, or even 100 v 100 fight. No, in two months, all I got were frequent 30v30 skirmishes 
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.01 09:59:00 -
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9) titan bowling. This is by far the biggest load of bull**** for this tactic to be ruled as "legal" by the GMs. The reason people fuel control towers is to have a safespot in a system where enemies cant reach them. This is required since you made Scan probes take only 30 seconds to probe down a ship and you allowed cloaked interdictors to immediatly uncloak and drop their bubble so that you dont even know there is someone there untill you have a probe dropped on you, and you have to either move your ship 20K outside of the bubble or die. But for those of you not familiar with this tactic of titan bowling, you take a titan and warp it into a enemy control tower at 0m and then all the ships inside that POS get bounced out along with the titan.
They haven't ruled this as legal, infact they said outright that it was an exploit and anyone caught doing it would be seriously penalised (aka banned with the cap not given to the alliance).
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10) The upcoming additions of placing sentury guns outside of POSs, of jump portals on towers, and of having stealth ships be scannable. Here is what will happen (this is my prediction for the future):
A) whenever a large alliance (BOB/GOON) seige a POS, they will target the guns first. With the guns all destroyed, they will then hit the tower into reinforced mode and place several large bubbles around the POS and have ceptors camp it with fighters assigned to them and perhaps a few sniper BS's on standby to come into pre-bookmarked spots. Any attempt by the enemy to bring in haulers to re-arm the POS before it comes out of reinforced mode will result in the hauler being killed. The inability for anyone to re-arm their POS means that when the POS comes out of reinforced mode, if you want to mount a defense, you will have to do it with your fleet alone, without the aid of your POS, meaning that small alliances and corps will have absolutly no chance at all of defending againt a enemy blob hitting them.
But the fact is, the defending force can now USE the guns, meaning they can focus fire. This will make them much more powerful as before, all you would get was one or two guns shooting at you for a small period. Now you can focus fire until a ship gets knocked-the-****-out!
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B) Jump portals are going to be able to be placed on towers if an alliance has constillation sov. This means only the large alliances will have this technology, and it means that they will be able to instantly move their fleets from their home systems to the combat zone. This will mean that alliances such as BOB and GOON can occupy dozens of regions, even if they are unable to actualy put citizens in them to live there, because they can just jump their whole fleet in at the moments when the area is under attack. All of 0.0 space will be within insta-jump range of A major allaice within a matter of months after this patch is in place.
The jump-portal generators work like a stargate - they take you from one jump portal to another, meaning that you can only jump from POSes in your sovreignity, to POSes in your sovreignity. Yes the titan can create jump portals onto the frontline, but that requires a cyno pilot there.
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C) Stealth ships are scannable. This is great to get rid of the recon ships I spoke of earlier, and will be great to solve that problem, but it will destory the ability of covert ops ships and of stealth bombers. Durring a large fleet op, each fleet will be constantly scanning to look for enemy covert ops or stealth bombers. As soon as one is found in the area, interdictors will bubble the whole area while the exact location is found. The enemy covert ops will have no choice but to sit and wait for its death because it is now trapped inside of an interdiction sphere and has no way to leave other than to go to his clone station, compliments of his enemy.
And again, LEARN TO READ! CCP said that the cloaking nerf would NOT AFFECT recons or covops.
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.01 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Shmoo
11) The newly discovered scandals with the GM's and Devs of this game. The fact that T20 would spawn stuff for his in-game alliance absolutly blew my mind, but I thought it was an isolated incident and I moved on. To find that CCP is allowing titan bowling is proof enough to me that they have no care for the player base of this game. Further than that, the new plans to "nerf titans" after BOB has already taken over more than 50% of 0.0 space with them is insane. GOON and RED as well as other groups are getting closer to being in their own titans, and now that other people are getting in titans, they NOW need to be nerfed? It seems an awful lot like CCP is playing favorites and only letting its favorites play with the nice toys, then nerfing them as soon as ohers get them too. In addition to this, I HAVE BEEN PLAYING EVE SINCE BETA. Thats right, i have been here over 4 yrs with no break, and unlike BOB's leaders, I DONT HAVE ANY GMs or DEV's on my MSN address book! When i lose a ship, i have to go through the petition system where GM waste-my-time spends 5 days telling me that he has no logs and that he is terriably sorry for my loss, untill i finialy get up to a senior GM who will actualy take 2 seconds and check to see what happened to me. Also when I have questions about in-game things, i have to either deal with the multi-day petition system that usualy ends in my time being wasted or just buy the items/mods i have questions about. For example: when POS's first game out, we set up a POS in the middle of nowhere and took only enough fuel to run it for 1 hour because we did not know it was a hourly consumption rate. Anoher example is BOB knowing what the system cap is for a system that nobody else seemed to know about untill they tired to jump in.... The idea that some players have a direct route to knowledge and ship replacements that go around the petition system while the rest of us have to wait in a very long and ineffective line, causes me great concern. Also this direct contact with the Devs of the game means that these players (dianabolic) get to explain to the devs what they think would help the game, and thus influence the devs to alter the game in ways that may hurt other players (for example the distruction of ALL small-gang combat while putting into the game a "super ship" called the TITAN that can destroy whole fleets at once and having only 1 major super power being able to use them to their full potential before they are nerfed.
CCP arent allowing titan bowling, for god sakes. And BOB won't be stopped by 'nerfing titans'. They are obviously superior PVPers to the other residents around that region, and their killboard stats show so. They are better than you, get over it.
There is no proof that BOB have any ISD members on their MSN lists, and they have to go through the petition system like everyone else. Stop being such a whining conspiracy-beleiving ******.
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.01 10:05:00 -
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12) 30 second scan probes. You can not even go AFK for 30 secs to empty your bladder for the risk that you will be scan probed down and bubbled up (assured podding) before you can run back.
Maybe you should bring a cloaking device I mean, they're so uber nowadays.
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13) tanking mods being insane. The idea that 1 ship can tank 4-5 other ships for long enough to call for backup, for his backup to dock, refit, and undock, and then warp to him and save him is absolutly mind blowing. The only people the change in tanking helped was the big alliances who were being raided by smaller groups in their home space! I agree that insta-ganking was not fun, but CCP went too far in trying to make tanking a reasonable alternative.
Lol, what the hell? If 4 BS can't kill a single BS in the time it takes for his friends to dock, refit and undock, then you are doing something terribly wrong. 4 sniperthrons would equal about 1600 DPS, prolly more, and you can't break a t2 ships tank with that? If it's factioned / deadspaced / officered, then that's a different story. I mean, they spent billions to get a tank like that, and so therefore it should be pretty damn strong. Tanking is not overpowered.
Goddamn you haven't got a clue anymore do you?
Oh, and to SMASH members, just FYI. Eos BPO = Supercap 
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zena rocks
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.06.01 10:09:00 -
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Sorry to see you go, Had some good times fighting, with and against you.....
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Elienee
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Posted - 2007.06.01 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Octavios
small gang warfare is gone. it's gotten to the point where nobody wants to fight unless they have the bigger blob and if you got a smaller blob you run away like cowards......... so nobody wins
hehe forcing a opponent to turn his tail and run away, is counting as a victory in my book as its in real life, unless your an american. They only define a win, if they have killed all of the opponents.  |
Mitch Manus
Regeneration
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Posted - 2007.06.01 11:01:00 -
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Im with lofty on this one.
But bye anyways o/ will always remember the paragon/tpar fights with rome and rubra and co back in the day 
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Minigin
Ganja Labs
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.01 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Indiano Arko
Those who can't adapt - die.
Rest in peace.
P.S. Can I have your stuff?
im sorry... is that code for... "those who dont lick bobs **** once a day must leave the game cos its no longer playable?"
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.01 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Indiano Arko
Those who can't adapt - die.
Rest in peace.
P.S. Can I have your stuff?
im sorry... is that code for... "those who dont lick bobs **** once a day must leave the game cos its no longer playable?"
Right, so the other 100k players in hi / lowsec or other regions of 0.0 lick bobs **** do they? No, but the game is still pretty damn playable.
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.06.01 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Indiano Arko
Those who can't adapt - die.
Rest in peace.
P.S. Can I have your stuff?
im sorry... is that code for... "those who dont lick bobs **** once a day must leave the game cos its no longer playable?"
Im sure you hear this each and everyday bro, but you are an ass.
On topic: Emperor I never liked you ingame, but I wish you the best of luck in RL. You have a few valid points in your argument, but I do feel that you are out of touch a bit.
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Kramer Verone
Amarr
TeamMX
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Posted - 2007.06.01 13:21:00 -
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I understand the problem people have with BOB, but come on, you can certainly get over it?
BOB is a challenge, sure they claim to be elite, but if you know better, don't waste your time and sanity in replying to or reading their lies and smack. Instead train your members to dispel BOB propaganda and work in cohesion.
The true problem here is, a lot of you put too much into your e-honor. When it becomes a problem in enjoying eve, step back, get a new character, and go play elsewhere in the eve galaxy.
In eve, you can instantly drop all responsibilities and accumulation of failures by buying or starting a new character.
EVE is a work in progress, you know this, why are you surprised that the game isn't well balanced? Are the devs perfect? hell no! Are they even slightly good? hell no! They are lucky to have the eve community guide them, else they'd be no eve at all.
For my effort, send your gratitude in isk.
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polvo zangado
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Posted - 2007.06.01 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: polvo zangado on 01/06/2007 13:50:57
I think the biggest part of what emp is saying is the changes bring things to the masses, but forget the little guy. I've been with emp/SMASH for a very long time, and I'm sure most people don't like emp for the tactics employed during warfare. I'm a carebear and certainly wouldn't like some of them but that's the game (or was).
But that's no reason to be rude to a veteran player that has brought a lot to the game be it for the benefit or detriment to your play style.
Emp, I'm gonna miss ya, hold the door open while you leave. I've got a few weeks left on my subscription then I'm out too.
Edit: and no you can't have my stuff it's already claimed even if those who are getting it don't know it.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.06.01 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Shmoo
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
General Discussion <---- That Way.
As the co-founder and leader of the SMASH alliance, i beleive my leaving the game belongs in the corp and alliance discussion.
I win.
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Aerick Dawn
Gallente
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.01 14:01:00 -
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Good luck Emperor.
I remember way back in the SIM vs HHI days in the first year of the game both fighting alongside and with, and now up to today. You're a good guy, a knowledgeable player that has "seen it all", and I'd take heart into what he has to say.
He's got some serious points and the problems can only get worse.
CCP has some extreme credibility issues, and honestly they should have just banned every account and disbanded BoB. I hate to say it, but bob will never ever get that ick off their back despite many of their own members being honest players.
Anything they accomplish is going to be tainted, and for good reason.
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Wardog 1
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.01 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Indiano Arko
Those who can't adapt - die.
Rest in peace.
P.S. Can I have your stuff?
im sorry... is that code for... "those who dont lick bobs **** once a day must leave the game cos its no longer playable?"
Whut?
Sometimes i think that people play eve on the forums more than in game. There are plenty of corps and alliances that play the game without having anything to do with bob. Funnily enough they're not blobbing everyone in eve simultaniously and forcing them to change everything.
Game mechanics, however, do change. It's always sad to see people leave, and I'm sorry that emperor feels he can't adapt any more. But "Those who can't adapt - die" means that eve players who can't learn to play with the always changing mechanics will get annoyed and just quit.
Then again, theres probably loads of people quiting cause they're not giving bob headAye?
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Koronos
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.01 14:05:00 -
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I'll hit 4 years in a couple weeks, and I pretty much agree with all of your points Emp.
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Grant Smith
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.01 14:12:00 -
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Didnt blob you too much did we.
Buhbye now. \o
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Mindlles
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.06.01 14:12:00 -
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I always had my toughts about smash and rome "mostly negative"
But omg they just got so confirmed reading point 1 and 2 about warpcore stabs.
Didnt bother reading rest really :P
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Wesley Baird
Ever Flow
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.01 14:16:00 -
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No need to flame a long-time player for sharing his opinions on the game...
Sorry to see you go Emperor, I did enjoy fighting against you! Many a time I have said "Shoot that Shmoo ****", heh
This is a big loss to Smash, I hope that someone of equal caliber steps up to the plate...
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.06.01 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
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12) 30 second scan probes. You can not even go AFK for 30 secs to empty your bladder for the risk that you will be scan probed down and bubbled up (assured podding) before you can run back.
Maybe you should bring a cloaking device I mean, they're so uber nowadays.
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13) tanking mods being insane. The idea that 1 ship can tank 4-5 other ships for long enough to call for backup, for his backup to dock, refit, and undock, and then warp to him and save him is absolutly mind blowing. The only people the change in tanking helped was the big alliances who were being raided by smaller groups in their home space! I agree that insta-ganking was not fun, but CCP went too far in trying to make tanking a reasonable alternative.
Lol, what the hell? If 4 BS can't kill a single BS in the time it takes for his friends to dock, refit and undock, then you are doing something terribly wrong. 4 sniperthrons would equal about 1600 DPS, prolly more, and you can't break a t2 ships tank with that? If it's factioned / deadspaced / officered, then that's a different story. I mean, they spent billions to get a tank like that, and so therefore it should be pretty damn strong. Tanking is not overpowered.
Goddamn you haven't got a clue anymore do you?
Oh, and to SMASH members, just FYI. Eos BPO = Supercap
Not that what i say means much, but i agree with everything this guy said. And all the pos stuff is on the test server ffs. Are u on there showing how terribly wrong it all is? ( if u are fair enough). It really looks like you have been left behind, i mean defending WCS? are u crazy?
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Orc A
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.01 14:19:00 -
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Edited by: Orc A on 01/06/2007 14:21:47
I never used a stab in combat, nor do i like EW.
Never took a ship to beyound 7km/s either.
I still agree with what Emperor is saying.
Somehow, chasing a Stabbed raven around in sqauds of ceptors, tryinbg to tackle it, capture it, time the support-warp, was more fun then no action at all because either side has 10 guys more then the other.
It's just not the same anymore.
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Krugerrand
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.06.01 14:31:00 -
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Having played for over 2 and half years myself and having seen most of these changes I cannot agree with you, I think many of the changes have been positive.
I also counter plenty of small gang pvp and enjoy it, I also fight outnumbered and not only enjoy it but often win. Its a matter of adapting to changes, having the right FCs and being willing to think outside the box.
Also the cloak nerf is a) being delayed, b) wont affect cov-ops and possibly not recons.
Good luck in the future.
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zykerx
Pegasus Mining and Securities
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.01 14:32:00 -
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good bye and good luck at rl
i liked the the wcs change
rly rly hate the lagg and personally dont believe it gets better fast as ccp is saying that for a few years allrdy and there still crazy lagg
ooh and pos are boring and i also dont trust ccp (not that i stop playing because of this)
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DOARota
Gallente
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.01 14:32:00 -
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Sorry to see you go Emperor. As far as the titan bowling goes,it is still legal because in order to get banned a gm has to see you do it.Unless you give them advanced notice of your plan to do so, or decide to log in your gm account and catch yourself in the act, what's the point?
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.06.01 15:05:00 -
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sorry to see u leave its been a long while,, nearly did the same but over jump Qs, agrea with u on the damps but pritty much all others I find the reverse to be true.
U seem to be in the mood for long range sniping and being able to warp away before anything gets close, and in the same breath the very ships that would rapier ur incoming fast intes to death u say are bad. I dont really see much differnce between a cloaked recon hunting and a sniper with stabs on ready to warp out in regards to getting caught v risk. U have to also respect people like differnt things, fast ships, big damge/tank recons sniping/blasters. All u need is a few guys on ur side who like taking out suport and swap those stabs for something that will help you and ur gang.
If u can aviode the #im coming to kick u out of ur house type wars# where eveyone in the house and attacking gets really protective of what they are doing there is alot of folks out there who enjoy a good pew pew and not a monster blob, does take effort finding it.
gl and best wishes.
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Kuseka Adama
Gallente
WOLFPACK DELTA
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Posted - 2007.06.01 15:19:00 -
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Goddamn you haven't got a clue anymore do you?
I could respond to that but it would be flamebait and trolling most likely.
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DinoC
ZiTek Deepspace Explorations
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.06.01 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: DinoC on 01/06/2007 15:49:49
Sorry to see you go Emperor, and although I dont necessary agree with all your points I have to say that EvE gets more boring everyday. EvE use to been fun to play and I never thought I would get to the point where I also am considering to quit. A lot of people i know have already left, a few others are thinking of leaving and some others only log on to change skill in the hopes of better days. So no you not the only one that feels that EvE has become a matter of how big are you and how many can you bring.
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Alei
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.01 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Alei on 01/06/2007 16:13:59
Big ass whine half of it...
It does sound as if you got left behind, with the changes ingame, and now cannot compete, or to even catch up thus you are departing...
Ya going a bit senile in ya head mate, almost paranoid.
I mean moaning about WCS's jeez, a few steps below
GL o/
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Allister Feind
V I R I I
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2007.06.01 16:20:00 -
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less whine more quit >/ why do people think anyone really gives a crap why they are quitting?
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tarisai hsaun
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.01 17:11:00 -
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can we have TDE back, then?
shame your gone, i remember orbiting your dread at 500m in a merlin with 4 nos and two points...then you popped. i thought i was super. i only had 300k SP at the time and was my first fleet battle.
most memorable Eve moment by far, and even though us ex-ratel still have a dislike toward SmashKill, without you guys i wouldn't be the pvp enthusiast i am today.
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tarisai hsaun
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.01 17:11:00 -
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can we have TDE back, then?
shame your gone, i remember orbiting your dread at 500m in a merlin with 4 nos and two points...then you popped. i thought i was super. i only had 300k SP at the time and was my first fleet battle.
most memorable Eve moment by far, and even though us ex-ratel still have a dislike toward SmashKill, without you guys i wouldn't be the pvp enthusiast i am today.
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.01 17:15:00 -
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whaaaaaambulance
i can't go with a 5 man gang and make fun of the 50 man needed to catch us.
also they put in some new ships in game that do some new stuff and the interceptors are fast so i can't play in a stabbed sniper anymore.
they did some stuff to towers and to some big ships i know nuthing about but i like to throw that in for good measure along with some paranoid thoughts from goon propaganda.
aaa... and there's lag... not that i care since i didnt like the fleet battles anyways but lag is bad mmkay and so gbye cruel world
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.01 17:15:00 -
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whaaaaaambulance
i can't go with a 5 man gang and make fun of the 50 man needed to catch us.
also they put in some new ships in game that do some new stuff and the interceptors are fast so i can't play in a stabbed sniper anymore.
they did some stuff to towers and to some big ships i know nuthing about but i like to throw that in for good measure along with some paranoid thoughts from goon propaganda.
aaa... and there's lag... not that i care since i didnt like the fleet battles anyways but lag is bad mmkay and so gbye cruel world
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Saladin
Minmatar
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.01 17:48:00 -
[35]
Good luck Emperor. It was quite an experience fighting against you in Geminate and Vale.
Since you were hoping to gather opinions, I'll say as a 4 year vet I agree with most points except warp core stabs: I supported the change, I think when people want to fight they need to commit to fighting. And the low slot that one sacrifices for a WCS is far 'cheaper' than the mid slot the warp disruptor uses. That said, I thought they should have changed WCS back to what they were before: medium slot items that consumed cap.
I never thought of what I would do if I had to ss while needing to pee. We joke about it but you are right, its possible to get probed down in less time than it takes to empty one's bladder.
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Saladin
Minmatar
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.01 17:48:00 -
[36]
Good luck Emperor. It was quite an experience fighting against you in Geminate and Vale.
Since you were hoping to gather opinions, I'll say as a 4 year vet I agree with most points except warp core stabs: I supported the change, I think when people want to fight they need to commit to fighting. And the low slot that one sacrifices for a WCS is far 'cheaper' than the mid slot the warp disruptor uses. That said, I thought they should have changed WCS back to what they were before: medium slot items that consumed cap.
I never thought of what I would do if I had to ss while needing to pee. We joke about it but you are right, its possible to get probed down in less time than it takes to empty one's bladder.
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Peoke
Caldari
Rome
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.01 18:07:00 -
[37]
I think the prob here is people see the complaints then see whos doing it then base thier opinion on it. They key points is eve went from small gangs sniping close range jamming battles to super fleets or cloaking recons and dictors camping gates/ or sitting afk in home systems ganking people. yes there are still tactics around to do small scale combat but most of the tactics are burn eden style or cloak and camp till you find a fight you can win. Before you could log on fly 5 jumps and find a fight/ now you log on get a gang formed up then take 30+ around to make sure when you get out blobed you have a decent chance.
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Peoke
Caldari
Rome
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.01 18:07:00 -
[38]
I think the prob here is people see the complaints then see whos doing it then base thier opinion on it. They key points is eve went from small gangs sniping close range jamming battles to super fleets or cloaking recons and dictors camping gates/ or sitting afk in home systems ganking people. yes there are still tactics around to do small scale combat but most of the tactics are burn eden style or cloak and camp till you find a fight you can win. Before you could log on fly 5 jumps and find a fight/ now you log on get a gang formed up then take 30+ around to make sure when you get out blobed you have a decent chance.
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.01 18:19:00 -
[39]
You gonna quit too, peoke?
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.01 18:19:00 -
[40]
You gonna quit too, peoke?
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2007.06.01 18:31:00 -
[41]
Good Luck Emperor in whatever you choose to do.
I agree with many of your comments, especially the POS changes coming. They will only eliminate the small alliances and corps that go into low sec and 0.0. I can't see how we would have any chance to defend a POS under the proposed new rules, I really wish the devs would reconsider them.
I also agree that we are getting farther and farther from balance in many areas due to game changes. As you said the randomization of effects especially EW effects has made most of them nonviable.
Good luck man.
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2007.06.01 18:31:00 -
[42]
Good Luck Emperor in whatever you choose to do.
I agree with many of your comments, especially the POS changes coming. They will only eliminate the small alliances and corps that go into low sec and 0.0. I can't see how we would have any chance to defend a POS under the proposed new rules, I really wish the devs would reconsider them.
I also agree that we are getting farther and farther from balance in many areas due to game changes. As you said the randomization of effects especially EW effects has made most of them nonviable.
Good luck man.
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Saladin
Minmatar
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.01 18:49:00 -
[43]
I just wanted to add to what I said before. It is totally stupid that CCP made ECM chance based while sensor dampening, target painting, turret disruption and nosferatu's "not" chance based.
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Saladin
Minmatar
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.01 18:49:00 -
[44]
I just wanted to add to what I said before. It is totally stupid that CCP made ECM chance based while sensor dampening, target painting, turret disruption and nosferatu's "not" chance based.
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dabster
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.01 19:33:00 -
[45]
jesus
the complaints
I just CANT STOP
Posting in epic whine thread!
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dabster
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.01 19:33:00 -
[46]
jesus
the complaints
I just CANT STOP
Posting in epic whine thread!
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
1 Shot 1 Kill
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Posted - 2007.06.01 20:28:00 -
[47]
so many bad trolls here
Quote:
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
1 Shot 1 Kill
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Posted - 2007.06.01 20:28:00 -
[48]
so many bad trolls here
Quote:
ItĘs not every day an MMO declares war on a huge segment of their own community. Then again, Eve is pretty damn hardcore |
Indiano Arko
Elite Storm Enterprises
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.06.01 21:30:00 -
[49]
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Indiano Arko
Those who can't adapt - die.
Rest in peace.
P.S. Can I have your stuff?
im sorry... is that code for... "those who dont lick bobs **** once a day must leave the game cos its no longer playable?"
Right, so the other 100k players in hi / lowsec or other regions of 0.0 lick bobs **** do they? No, but the game is still pretty damn playable.
Actually it amuses me that someone still takes Minigin words seriously. 
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Indiano Arko
Elite Storm Enterprises
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.06.01 21:30:00 -
[50]
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Indiano Arko
Those who can't adapt - die.
Rest in peace.
P.S. Can I have your stuff?
im sorry... is that code for... "those who dont lick bobs **** once a day must leave the game cos its no longer playable?"
Right, so the other 100k players in hi / lowsec or other regions of 0.0 lick bobs **** do they? No, but the game is still pretty damn playable.
Actually it amuses me that someone still takes Minigin words seriously.
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Ventosus
x13
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.01 23:11:00 -
[51]
take care emperor
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I will win Eve
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Ventosus
x13
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.01 23:11:00 -
[52]
take care emperor
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I will win Eve
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xxShadexx
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.06.01 23:34:00 -
[53]
Hey Emperor, long time no see.
I miss the old days messing about in Stain with u and Smite, good times.
I wish you good luck to whatever u get up to.
Peace man.
~Shade
BTW my xfire is xecutioner3000, add me.
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xxShadexx
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.06.01 23:34:00 -
[54]
Hey Emperor, long time no see.
I miss the old days messing about in Stain with u and Smite, good times.
I wish you good luck to whatever u get up to.
Peace man.
~Shade
BTW my xfire is xecutioner3000, add me.
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Romale
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.02 02:05:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Romale on 02/06/2007 02:08:50
Am i the only one who thinks every point he complained about is exactly what makes small gangs viable? minus the lag titanbwling which shouldn't happen now and the like
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Romale
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.02 02:05:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Romale on 02/06/2007 02:08:50
Am i the only one who thinks every point he complained about is exactly what makes small gangs viable? minus the lag titanbwling which shouldn't happen now and the like
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.02 02:07:00 -
[57]
I disagree on almost every point.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.02 02:07:00 -
[58]
I disagree on almost every point.
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Deep Throat
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Posted - 2007.06.02 03:46:00 -
[59]
well, first of sad to see u quit the game
u have been around a long time and your corps guerilla tactics were amongst the best in the game, not to mention the first to effectively put that type of fighting to use
i do agree with u on most of your points, except the warp cores, i was glad to see that go
but its pretty evident that CCP have been slowly loosing their grip over the last year and sending the game on a very steep downward spiral, culminating in the introduction of the most stupid thing ever put forth in a game such as this, the titan
i still however believe it might pull itself up if they really attack the issues plaguing it atm, most notably the titan and the doomsday crap, and secondly bring back the ability to actually do something with a small gang, which was pretty much killed off with the "tanking - hp " patch which for some very weird reason was accompanied by a damage nerf across the board.
since that happened i have not seen a gang with less than 15 or 20 in it. and the ganksquads quickly rose from 5-10 to 20-40, which then again requires a response from the other side which will then quickly escalate into what u are describing... endless calls for backups and stalemate .. usually ending in either both sides going to sleep or that the one side takes a chance and gets doomsdayed...
but who knows, perhaps CCP will continue to **** it up and i think if that happens the game will rapidly decay even more than it already has, prop ending sooner rather then later
i wish u goodluck Emperor
and hello to all the bob muppets who posted in this thread protecting and standing up for the ****ass game design their friends in CCP have been throwing at us for the last year
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Deep Throat
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Posted - 2007.06.02 03:46:00 -
[60]
well, first of sad to see u quit the game
u have been around a long time and your corps guerilla tactics were amongst the best in the game, not to mention the first to effectively put that type of fighting to use
i do agree with u on most of your points, except the warp cores, i was glad to see that go
but its pretty evident that CCP have been slowly loosing their grip over the last year and sending the game on a very steep downward spiral, culminating in the introduction of the most stupid thing ever put forth in a game such as this, the titan
i still however believe it might pull itself up if they really attack the issues plaguing it atm, most notably the titan and the doomsday crap, and secondly bring back the ability to actually do something with a small gang, which was pretty much killed off with the "tanking - hp " patch which for some very weird reason was accompanied by a damage nerf across the board.
since that happened i have not seen a gang with less than 15 or 20 in it. and the ganksquads quickly rose from 5-10 to 20-40, which then again requires a response from the other side which will then quickly escalate into what u are describing... endless calls for backups and stalemate .. usually ending in either both sides going to sleep or that the one side takes a chance and gets doomsdayed...
but who knows, perhaps CCP will continue to **** it up and i think if that happens the game will rapidly decay even more than it already has, prop ending sooner rather then later
i wish u goodluck Emperor
and hello to all the bob muppets who posted in this thread protecting and standing up for the ****ass game design their friends in CCP have been throwing at us for the last year
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Chib
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.06.02 12:12:00 -
[61]
o/ emp ..for those who were there will agree and those who werent might disagree but back in the day when SA vs CA was going strong and we were fighting 100v100 no problem then and it was the best times in eve
seems ccp have moved backwards on some issues and forewards on others
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Awox
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.02 23:19:00 -
[62]
And the winner is... Cow
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Aturayd
Rome
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.02 23:24:00 -
[63]
Totally agree.. im taking a big hiatus from EVE aswell, as ive paid till september anyway, but i want to wait and see if the devs actually put some sense back into the game.
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Alha Qmar
Caldari
Xenon Logistics
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Posted - 2007.06.03 08:26:00 -
[64]
Can I have your isk?
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Royaldo
Gallente
KVA Noble Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.03 13:23:00 -
[65]
shame to see you go.
not every day pilot which i leaves ive gotten nuked in front of sentrys =)
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Rutoo
Gallente
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.04 18:40:00 -
[66]
Sad to see you go, but i have to agree with one thing
The game has changed to much from it's Original self to be fun. I barely play nowadays
gl
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