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Vector Victor
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Posted - 2004.01.10 22:53:00 -
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One of the patch servers contains a webpage to download the game. I was saving the pics there and stumbled across this :
http://eve.skjalfti.is/EVE-Online_files/SubarticPlanetNight.jpg
http://eve.skjalfti.is/EVE-Online_files/DesertPlanet.jpg
Now, I'm no graphics expert and these are on a CCP server so I'm assuming they are real.
But my question to CCP is, are we finally going to get to use those planets for something? 
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Lanu
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Posted - 2004.01.10 22:54:00 -
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They are really nice but fake 
boo
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ManniXXX
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Posted - 2004.01.10 22:55:00 -
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Edited by: ManniXXX on 10/01/2004 22:55:43
photoshopped
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Sabahl
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Posted - 2004.01.10 22:57:00 -
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Very interesting. They seem to have been put there today as well. Someone had better mirror them before they get vanished.
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Sabahl
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Posted - 2004.01.10 23:00:00 -
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Just analysed these things with a few forensic image analysis tools. And no, they do not appear to be composited (at least, after a cursory examination).
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Elrathias
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Posted - 2004.01.10 23:08:00 -
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do not appear to be composed? wtf are you talking about? i mean, LOOK AT THE FRIGGIN LIGHTNING MAN. the mountains on the ibis picture, they cast next to NO shadow, and the executioner, its lit up from BEHIND THE CAMERA, not from the sun...bla bla bla, photo anaysis my ass dude, those pictures ARE SO FAKE.
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PoXiE
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Posted - 2004.01.10 23:08:00 -
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would be interesting...
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scouting
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Posted - 2004.01.10 23:13:00 -
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looks like mojoworld generator pic with a ship stuck on...
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Karnov Darkstar
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Posted - 2004.01.10 23:15:00 -
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Could very well be real, in the running in eve-engine way. Simply replacing the background space texture with that of a planet and sky should do it. Of course you would not be able to get any sensation of movement because the background is static, but for screenshot purposes that would probably work fine
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Maiwenn LeBesco
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Posted - 2004.01.10 23:52:00 -
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I think its more likely that they are going to be used for a peek of the week or as part of the backstory or something.
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Sabahl
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Posted - 2004.01.10 23:52:00 -
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ComposITed, not composed, you dumb hick. The ibis seems to be lit effectively, if anything the Amarr ship is more suspect. It's hard to make out if there are any major edge artifacts due to the JPG compression but it doesn't seem obviously faked. And as for shadows on the landscape etc, if these are early shots of something which is currently being tested then I'd imagine the scenary would all be textures anyway. I mean, when were shadows ever cast on anything in Eve?
As I said, doesn't look like a fake from where I am sitting. But what exactly it is is anyone's guess.
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Cell Satimo
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Posted - 2004.01.11 00:28:00 -
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In the photo of the amarr ship on the planet, there is a lighting effect on the desert directly beneath the ship that matches what would be expected from the thrusters.
Just to help the conspiracy theories along :)
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.01.11 00:37:00 -
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The second one showing the amarr ship look fakish..
The lighsource doesnt add up. In EVE the main lightsource in any solar system is the sun. Seeying as were looking at portside of the amarr ship which is turned away from the sun it should be dark...
But its bright. hence the lightsource is bogus pointing to a photoshopped picture. the first picture i find actually very acceptable.
I dont however see what reason there would be to implementing something like this!
What good are planet surfaces if you cant do anything with them? They would only take away valuable recourses to be utterly pointless in the end!
EVE doesnt NEED any more eye candy, eve needs high quality content and controll. If the DEVS would have wanted fully featured solarsystems then they wouldnt have made somany of them. The scenery in EVE is just that..scenery. its not ment to be interactive in any way. Just candy!
I have not seen, read or heard anything that would lead me to believe there were ANY plans to making planet interactive. Furthermore there is no point to making them interactive. the universe is already to big for the current playerbase. Everything that is now in EVE leans toward deep space life...
you collect all your basic recourses IN SPACE. You live IN SPACE. You fight IN SPACE. Eventually you will controll your own piece OF SPACE and all travel and interaction with other players happens IN SPACE...or more specific in space stations.
So...no i do not belive there will ever be interactive planets which are anything more then a high polygon globe with a texture on them (and no collision box).
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It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Vector Victor
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Posted - 2004.01.11 00:51:00 -
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Edited by: Vector Victor on 11/01/2004 00:52:04
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I dont however see what reason there would be to implementing something like this!
What good are planet surfaces if you cant do anything with them? They would only take away valuable recourses to be utterly pointless in the end!
EVE doesnt NEED any more eye candy, eve needs high quality content and controll. If the DEVS would have wanted fully featured solarsystems then they wouldnt have made somany of them. The scenery in EVE is just that..scenery. its not ment to be interactive in any way. Just candy!
I have not seen, read or heard anything that would lead me to believe there were ANY plans to making planet interactive. Furthermore there is no point to making them interactive. the universe is already to big for the current playerbase. Everything that is now in EVE leans toward deep space life...
you collect all your basic recourses IN SPACE. You live IN SPACE. You fight IN SPACE. Eventually you will controll your own piece OF SPACE and all travel and interaction with other players happens IN SPACE...or more specific in space stations.
So...no i do not belive there will ever be interactive planets which are anything more then a high polygon globe with a texture on them (and no collision box).
Yeah, real or not, it's seems to be from CCP. But assuming that is from the game the I would also assume they would implement interactivity on the planet. Mining or exploring or stuff like that. It's also logical to start by making it possible to actually go to a planet if you want to implement interactivity on in, right? 
If the plan is to own space, then it's only logical that you can use the "supposedly" valuable thing within that space - the planets!
But you are correct, I haven't seen anything about making them interactive in CSM's or here on the boards. And if you are right that they are putting resources just into more eyecandy ... 
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Spyder Murphy
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:19:00 -
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Edited by: Spyder Murphy on 11/01/2004 01:21:07
Firstly, these pictures are on the official eve testpatch server mirror.
if they are fake there are 2 things to consider:- Thier server was hacked and these images are placed here.
- The people at eve have the tools to properly alpha out the ships so (assuming its fake and from an offical source) Id say its an early april fools day gift
I don't think these are fake:
- they show rendering artifacts inline with the eve rendering engine.
- lighting is really Moot; Im sure the ships in eve aren't lit "truely" correctly, as such a method would invlove ray tracing bazilloins of light particals clearly eve doesn't do this.
- The trails would be very difficult to fake, as the overlay method is additive, and not just a simple transparency.
- The lens flares from the sun are composited perfectly on the cloud layer
- The map for the planetry surface in subartic picture, uses multi maps which are characteristic with the eve rendering engine.
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shakaZ XIV
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:24:00 -
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they could have just loaded the ship models into a 3d program and slapped together a landscape to go with it? :P
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Alexis Machine
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:39:00 -
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Planets will be interactive so far as you can mine them. (imagine the minerals you'll get from that)
That's about it. I don't remember what dev chat it's from, or if it's just random info from the old gemini forum, and I'm too lazy to bother looking, but planets will be used to mine minerals from player owned stations.
Unless they had a drastic change of heart (doubt it) and decided to spend 90% of their resources, time, and energy to make planets anymore interactive. ( reaaaaaaaaaally doubt it)
But they do look pretty.
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Basher D'Crush
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:39:00 -
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Lol
Me think its a mirror of the eve front page, nice try Vector
Look at Linkage
Its nothing like Eve.com, ass fuzzy and stuff, but not a bad job, just got a bit lazy
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Vector Victor
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:47:00 -
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Me think its a mirror of the eve front page, nice try Vector
Look at Linkage
Its nothing like Eve.com, ass fuzzy and stuff, but not a bad job, just got a bit lazy
uhm, I think youre misunderstanding this a bit. I was saving the images from the server, and it's a ccp server and webpage not mine ya dig?
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Baked Bean
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:48:00 -
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Basher, its a mirror, but an official one in Iceland, check this:
http://www.eve-online.com/patches/patchmirrors.asp
Regards:
Beany
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Mned Graydroggen
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:58:00 -
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Definatly fake.
Execuror pict : Pixel size from background differs from ships
The Ibis is better in pixel size overall but still can see traces of Photoshops * blurr* tool.
But hey ....who cares :) Great work Vector I'm impressed, would LOVE to see these enviournements in-game 
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:05:00 -
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heh the ibis one looks like someone overlayed flight simulator in iraq
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Atrioss
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:12:00 -
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That's what I thought, Switchblade. That terrain looks like it came right out of a common jet fighter sim.
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Baked Bean
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:43:00 -
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Mned:
What exactly do you mean by "pixel size"? All the pixels on the images are like 1 pixel each. you cant have different sizes. If you mean the pixels around the ship that look more 'distinct', thats becacuse there is more variation in contrast between the ship and background.
Regards:
Beany
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Baked Bean
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:53:00 -
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Mned:
Also, i think the bluring you mention may be due to the JPEG compression.
Also, remember these are on the official Eve Online mirror servers in Iceland. Its not like everyone has access to upload file to it.
Kind Regards:
Beany
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Qual
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Posted - 2004.01.11 20:29:00 -
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Actually visiting planents was mentoned in some interviews as apossible idea for a comercial expansion down the road. Might be related to that. Pitch pictures to show investors or something...
Who knows...
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Shandrakor
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Posted - 2004.01.11 20:37:00 -
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Fake or not, if this was an additon to the game... damn it would be cool.
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Der Ewige
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Posted - 2004.01.11 20:45:00 -
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When you studi your eve folder, you will find this.
..\CCP\eve\cache\Texture\Planets\Visited
So ther is a folder for the texturs to be saved in of the planets u already visited. Due to the fact, this folder is in since beginning, it's in plaing for a loooooong time and may come soon(tm) 
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.01.11 20:45:00 -
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the pictures don't appear to be photoshopped, and do appear to be composed using the eve online graphics engine.. if this was anywhere else id say it was fake
but since its on the OFFICIAL patch mirror site you can't discredit that.
No one in their right mind would go though so much trouble creating realistic pictures for what?
my best guess is some devs at CCP are TESTING the engine to seee how it fares with planetary scenes because they did say planets were going to be integral parts of the resource system about one year after release (possibly in an expansion)
those details were from past CSM logs and posts made by the devs on the old medusa and gemini boards
you can go to the downloads section and see similar compositions using the eve engine (tempest in ringed planet system, griffin flyby, griffin missle test.. etc) but they're all videos.
an official word would be nice
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.11 20:56:00 -
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When you studi your eve folder, you will find this.
..\CCP\eve\cache\Texture\Planets\Visited
So ther is a folder for the texturs to be saved in of the planets u already visited. Due to the fact, this folder is in since beginning, it's in plaing for a loooooong time and may come soon(tm)
I thought that was a store for all planet textures you've loaded.
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