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Agax	Posted - 2007.06.01 12:22:00 - [1] Edited by: Agax on 01/06/2007 12:29:35 Hello. What im looking for is the Bs that can do the most amount of dmg in a lvl 4 mission,at mid range, while standing still..I have an alt flying a Domi with a full rack of remote armor reps/shied transfer thingies to take care of the actual repping/boosting. So mainly I need the most dmg ealing ship on the main to run the missions as fast as posible,with full gank setup and hardeners.Cant use short range weapons coz the repping alt is slow and cant keep up. Im running missions in Caldari space(60% against Guristas) and can train for any race BS/weapons.I have no experience with other races BS's except Caldari ones,so maybe u guys can help. No need for actual setups,just the ship and main weapons are enough :) Thx in advance :)
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill	Posted - 2007.06.01 12:27:00 - [2] Raven Quote: ItÆs not every day an MMO declares war on a huge segment of their own community. Then again, Eve is pretty damn hardcore
Kazuo Ishiguro	Posted - 2007.06.01 12:46:00 - [3] Well, since you asked, I recommend torpedoes for most level 4 missions. Whenever the bulk of the hp of npcs is composed of battlecruisers or battleships, they're by far the best option. Fit a target painter to help deal with cruisers and leave anything smaller to your drones. ------ Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant tanking
Raia Mortius Yin Bao	Posted - 2007.06.01 12:54:00 - [4] wrong way round. what i do is let the domi tank. they do this perfectly and have a second BS (i use malestrom with all arty, no tank, full damage mods) to deliver dps.
Chrysalis D'lilth	Posted - 2007.06.01 12:57:00 - [5] Raven tanking & Megathron with rails for more damage. Use the mega's 125m3 drone bay to use haevy shield repair drones on the raven.
WredStorm Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2007.06.01 13:53:00 - [6] Edited by: WredStorm on 01/06/2007 13:52:18 One advantage to the OP's choice is you can simply warp in the raven followed by the domi. You have the domi launch drones, target the raven, orbit it at close range, sick the shield maintenance drones on the raven and turn on your shield transfers. At that point you can completely forget about the domi and focus completely on the raven. You don't have to worry about the domi ever getting agro or having to target anything at all... it is a "fire and forget shield repper" for all intents and purposes. Easy FTW. Wred ----- Think out of the box, consider passive shield tanking your Myrmidon, you'll be pleasantly surprised!
lyrenna Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:01:00 - [7] raven only a cnr can beat him in missions ============================ when you armor tank a raven god kills a kitten. Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!!! "sig hijack!" ============================
Marquis Dean Demise and Vestige 9th Fleet	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:05:00 - [8] Originally by: WredStorm You don't have to worry about the domi ever getting agro You obviously don't run missions. --- Originally by: Galack Fyar Burn in a hole
Ceremony Garp	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:21:00 - [9] Originally by: Agax Edited by: Agax on 01/06/2007 12:29:35 Hello. What im looking for is the Bs that can do the most amount of dmg in a lvl 4 mission,at mid range, while standing still..I have an alt flying a Domi with a full rack of remote armor reps/shied transfer thingies to take care of the actual repping/boosting. So mainly I need the most dmg ealing ship on the main to run the missions as fast as posible,with full gank setup and hardeners.Cant use short range weapons coz the repping alt is slow and cant keep up. Im running missions in Caldari space(60% against Guristas) and can train for any race BS/weapons.I have no experience with other races BS's except Caldari ones,so maybe u guys can help. No need for actual setups,just the ship and main weapons are enough :) Thx in advance :) Dear Agax, My main has been running missions since he started three years ago. I too have gotten bored with a Raven, and also tried Tempest, Megathorn, Apoc, hell I even tried a Phoon, lol. Thing is, the Raven could have almost been designed for mission runners [apart from the very early days when everyone flew one in PvP]. If you're absolutely serious about missioning, then try to work towards a CNR. I've run a Snake and a CNR on lvl 4's, and the CNR outdoes the Snake mainly due to it's 7th launcher and tbh, there isn't a lvl4 that can really hurt the CNR, providing it's set up properly. They have dropped in price too in the last few months. I even saw one in contracts for isk700m. Hope this provides you with another option Kind regards, Ceremony
Agax	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:34:00 - [10] Well as one of the above posters said ,i use the Domi as a "fire and forget" Shield booster/Repair system.With 5 Large Shield Transfer T2 thingies and 1 med T2 + Shield drones/6 x Large Remore Armor reppers+ armor drones -it can boost/rep a sick amount of hp,so the tanking ship wont worry about any number of rats shooting at it if it has the right resists. My main problem is to find the most dmg dealing BS to be main dps.Most fight take place between 27-60 km.Have to admit that i dont have maxed out torp skills but have pretty good cruise skills.Suport are at lvl 4-5. Atm i use a Raven ,and tbh i was hoping that there is some turret based BS that can outdmg a Raven/CNR because im pretty sick of missiles,they get shot by defenders,torps have lousy speed etc.Plus i was under the impression that missiles have the worst dps of all weapon systems. Was thinking about Abaddon or a Navy Mega (or maybe some other ship)with a full gank setup to dish out more dmg than Raven/Cnr.Have pretty good gunnery skill and training them further atm.But since i have no experience with those ships ,i (again) ask for your seasoned pilots advice . Thx again for yer kind advice and patience :) P.S. Oh ,for some odd reason i cant log on the forums with my main,so i have a friend posting this for me.

Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:40:00 - [11] Originally by: Raia Mortius wrong way round. what i do is let the domi tank. they do this perfectly and have a second BS (i use malestrom with all arty, no tank, full damage mods) to deliver dps. Due to reinforment waves agressing whatever they like it is no longer good idea to float around in missions in untanked ships. I run 2 accounts in missions and both of them need to be tanked except few missions where you can get in, draw a full agro and bring in untanked second ship. To answer OP's question - Raven (preferably torpedo raven with at least 1 target painter) is the king of lev 4 missions. Against Blood/Sanasha/Drones Abbadon might do more damage I have heard but have not tried that one myself. Turret ships in general are not that good idea due to tracking issues. Drones help ofcource, but it's not as universal as missile ships.
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:41:00 - [12] Edited by: Hllaxiu on 01/06/2007 15:40:20 Maelstrom out DPSes a mission Raven setup and has an identical tank (can also vary damage types to some degree by switching between EMP, Phased Plasma, Fusion and occasionally Titanium Sabot). You have to deal with transversal - though thats a good way to keep you awake. Raven will probably complete missions faster however - haven't timed it or anything. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Marquis Dean Demise and Vestige 9th Fleet	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:49:00 - [13] Originally by: Hllaxiu Maelstrom out DPSes a mission Raven setup It loses those two most crucial reasons why the Raven is best: the ability to choose damage type, and the ability to hit accurately at any range. Tbh the best mission running partner for a Raven is another Raven. --- Originally by: Galack Fyar Burn in a hole
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.01 16:08:00 - [14] Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Hllaxiu Maelstrom out DPSes a mission Raven setup It loses those two most crucial reasons why the Raven is best: the ability to choose damage type, and the ability to hit accurately at any range. Tbh the best mission running partner for a Raven is another Raven. Phased Plasma and Fusion deal the same amount of damage with different damaeg types. Combined with EMP you can hit all npc ships with mostly weak damage. PP vs Guristas/Serp and the like, Fusion vs Angels, EMP vs Sanshas... it all works pretty well. As for the range thing... I use 1200s in missions and never have any trouble hitting NPC battleships at point blank range (you have to manually maneuvere to reduce transverse) or killing frigates and cruisers before they enter range an almost all missions. Besides, you don't get to instagib frigates from 80km in a Raven. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Lab Technician071548 Astro-Support Services	Posted - 2007.06.01 16:19:00 - [15] I run a domi tank with a raven that uses 2 small remote armor reppers. Probably any 2 BS setup where one is a raven will work just fine no matter who tanks. http://www.koolsource.com/slandark/evelabtech3.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit([email protected])
Ryysa Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.01 16:57:00 - [16] Originally by: Hllaxiu stuff You want to do a mission in the lowest reasonable amount of time. In majority of missions you land in the middle of everything, many deadspace missions have multiple stages. In order to hit all the smaller stuff with arties you have to burn away in a straight line, then burn back to the acceleration gate, while raven can just instantly approach gate. There's no way in hell maelstrom is going to do lvl4's faster than raven, it's just wishful thinking. Ofcourse, it's possible to do a few missions which involve /only/ sniping slightly faster than a raven would, but on average raven comes out on top, and I honestly doubt you're going to keep multiple battleships and use one battleship for every mission type. The pure DPS isn't important in missions, the circumstances under which it can be delivered, is. EW Guide - KB Tool - PVP Event


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