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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:00:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Molari on 11/01/2004 02:01:52
Hmm, 60 person fleet drops to 20 before our eyes...
no ships leaving, no ships destroyed...
Facing a fleet of 35..
60 vs 35, and you guys log off?
Where's your balls?
Find a pair, and come to UMI-KK
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Slagg
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:03:00 -
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Watch it, they can write petions and have you perm banned, just thank the Pain in the Ass.
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:05:00 -
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Typical...
NVA all have level 5 petition writing...
'XPLOIT 'XPLOIT 'XPLOIT
(_8(|) DOH DOH DOH!
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:06:00 -
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I've watched Lord of the Rings: Fellowship and The Shawshank Redemption so far sitting here waiting for the NVA to show up and defend "their" territory.
This is a joke. COMPLETE joke! They can't seriously claim Venal when we have essentially patrolled up and down Venal all day today and havent been challenged once. NOW what happens --- they finally come within 2 jumps of our fleet and they all log off LOL.
Just a bunch of pusies is all they are.
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:07:00 -
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Lots of euros in the NVA. I bet you need sleep to, right?
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: KIAHicks on 11/01/2004 02:09:26
www.badgerbadgerbadger.com
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:09:00 -
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Lots of euros in the NVA. I bet you need sleep to, right?
WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 9 HOURS YOU DOLT.
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Havocide
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:09:00 -
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the usual excuse, we have to sleep, we waited here for hours, the nva fleet arsed about in ec and x-7 so you had PLENTY of time. Dont give us that crap please, we are not stupid
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:09:00 -
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Edited by: Mongo Peck on 11/01/2004 02:09:52
All mouth ..... no action .... again 
Yap Yap
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There is no alliance, a 60+ NVA BS Fleet, says no. 30+ FE pilots say well lets fight then, we just moving into position to effect, we hope, a succesful engagement.
Mongo speaks !!
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Cassiopia Phaedra
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:10:00 -
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Shouldn't FE be podding crice corp right about now?
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:10:00 -
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You talked the smack...
Deliver.
We are here. Where r u?
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:10:00 -
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WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 9 HOURS YOU DOLT.
LOL you've camped 9 hours. I need to update my sig, thats a new record.
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:10:00 -
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we fight on our terms not yours. so endeth the lesson.
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:14:00 -
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All I have to say is that you guys just proved you are yellow-bellied pu55ycats. Meow.
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Cassiopia Phaedra
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:16:00 -
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All I have to say is that you guys just proved you are yellow-bellied pu55ycats. Meow.
stay right there, the waaaaaaaaaambulance is on the way you little cry baby.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:16:00 -
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I say FE claims Venal as their own, and leave to the NVA to prove them wrong 
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:17:00 -
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* voted 5 stars * 
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:17:00 -
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All I have to say is that you guys just proved you are yellow-bellied pu55ycats. Meow.
nice, so sun tzu, one of the greatest military geniuses ever is a coward,
lol. thats a good one.
next you will tell me einstein was a dummy.
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Cassiopia Phaedra
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:22:00 -
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I think FE is more upset over the fact that they wasted a whole day when they could have been mining instead.
That is what you do now right?
I mean, thats why you tried to talk the nva into a merger?
FE: Teh Uber Minerses!
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:24:00 -
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Cassiopia Phaedra, smack talk ..... Yap Yap
Mongo speaks !!
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:31:00 -
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Yawn ............. so what part of the KIA war smack didn't you understand ....
The .........
I will clear Venal with or our 2 to 1, maybe, tomorrow, next week, it's late, need sleep, anyone got coco fleet.
Mongo speaks !!
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:35:00 -
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nice, so sun tzu, one of the greatest military geniuses ever is a coward,
lol. thats a good one.
next you will tell me einstein was a dummy.
WTF are you on about??? 
what exactly are the NVA's terms? it seems having twice the numbers isn't good enough, what do you want? sixty times our numbers? a billion times our numbers????
pathetic
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Jhered Stern
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:44:00 -
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First of all it was the NVA that said that they were going to run us out. You havn't! We are still here.
Second, you always complaine that we have superior numbers, you had us well out numbered today. You started with tactical advantage and you blew it. So as for quoting Sun Tsu, better read again. "When facing a foe while haveing a superior advantage and tactical position, ATTACK" You had us surronded!.
What we have here is a failure to commit your alligator mouths to protecting your jaybird arses!
You NVA and allies are cowerds! Cowards! COWARDS!
Jhered Out!
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olyyy
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:44:00 -
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NVA is no more.
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Hanns
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:47:00 -
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Edited by: Hanns on 11/01/2004 02:50:31
Edited by: Hanns on 11/01/2004 02:49:38
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Lots of euros in the NVA. I bet you need sleep to, right?
Im from UK and almost HALF our fleet is in europe, so try another excuse! and its Saturday night, so no "work in the morning" excuses, my estimation of the NVA fleet had dropped dramatically!
Pretty sad guys 
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Cassiopia Phaedra
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:49:00 -
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Edited by: Cassiopia Phaedra on 11/01/2004 02:51:46
Jhered youre stupid.
I think it was the NVA fleet who was surrounded and had 35 enemy ships in front of them, and 8 or so SI and friends behind them.
Regardless, Is it stupid and cowardly to NOT jump into 35 enemy ships?
You guys cry so much, and you call the NVA pathetic. Look at yourselves.
The NVA has brains enough to avoid a lose-lose situation and you all come to the boards crying.
were YOU going to jump into the NVA fleet? I think not.
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Tigge91862
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:51:00 -
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Edited by: Tigge91862 on 11/01/2004 02:53:02
In reply to the Sun Tzu philosophies...
From Chapter 3 in The Art of War - http://www.sonshi.com/sun3.html
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Generally in warfare:
If ten times the enemy's strength, surround them;
if five times, attack them;
if double, divide them;
if equal, be able to fight them;
if fewer, be able to evade them;
if weaker, be able to avoid them.
I'm sure you were double our numbers...YOU SHOULD'VE FOUGHT...
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Cassiopia Phaedra
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:53:00 -
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I'm sure you were double our numbers...YOU SHOULD'VE FOUGHT...
Tigge
LOL! Here we go with "Numbers"!
Double eh?
So NVA had 70+ ships there?
tomorrow FE will claim that the NVA fleet was 100+ all with Tech 2 Battleships.
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Tigge91862
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:56:00 -
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LOL! Here we go with "Numbers"!
Double eh?
So NVA had 70+ ships there?
tomorrow FE will claim that the NVA fleet was 100+ all with Tech 2 Battleships.
Not in your main battle fleet, but surrounding numbers, yeah you guys had roughly 60-70 ships. And yet you guys still decided to log off.
Tigge
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:57:00 -
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Should had stopped posting smack on the forums and attacked .....
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There is no alliance, a 60+ NVA BS Fleet, says no. 30+ FE pilots
Or maybe the KIA guys are lying also ...
Yap Yap ..
Mongo speaks !!
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Archain
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:59:00 -
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LOL
Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD]
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:00:00 -
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Cass,
It was your boyz who claimed 65 ships...
It was your boyz who logged 1 JUMP FROM A FIGHT.
It's us who jumped at you when we saw you logging off.
It's tragic we have to shame you into trying to back your words with actions.
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:01:00 -
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The NVA has brains enough to avoid a lose-lose situation and you all come to the boards crying.
were YOU going to jump into the NVA fleet? I think not.
The trouble with the pathetic excuses for pilots that form the NVA is EVERYTHING is lose-lose to them
WE came to YOU and still you were nowhere to be found, ran off as usual waiting and praying for your forum ninja's to pick us off one by one on the damn boards. BORING!
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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:01:00 -
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Lots of smack talk, let's wait a bit and see where the dust settles.
Afterall, who wants to get caught with their foot in their mouth :)
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Tigge91862
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:01:00 -
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Should had stopped posting smack on the forums and attacked .....
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There is no alliance, a 60+ NVA BS Fleet, says no. 30+ FE pilots
Or maybe the KIA guys are lying also ...
Yap Yap ..
Bahahahaha!! Too funny...
Tigge
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Cassiopia Phaedra
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:02:00 -
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Edited by: Cassiopia Phaedra on 11/01/2004 03:04:59
Too much ignorance here.
To Jhered, I always watch the map. Since when has it correctly showed pilots in space?
I seen it get up to around 15-20 pilots showing in space where the "big red blobs" were. So ya....
To the other FE cry babies, get over yourselves, you aren't that important.
errr wait....so now you are saying you jumped into the NVA fleet as they were logging off?
LOL. kthxbye.
nn.
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:02:00 -
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Damn ... my feet smell
Mongo speaks !!
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Tigge91862
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:04:00 -
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I seen it get up to around 15-20 pilots showing in space where the "big red blobs" were. So ya....
Map has always been off. We had about 30 people and it said 15.
You don't play the game a whole lot do you?
Tigge
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Cassiopia Phaedra
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:05:00 -
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Since when has the map correctly showed pilots in space?...I seen it get up to around 15-20 pilots showing in space where the "big red blobs" were. So ya....
Map has always been off. We had about 30 people and it said 15.
You don't play the game a whole lot do you?
Tigge
You don't read very well do you?
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:15:00 -
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Edited by: Sally on 11/01/2004 03:17:12
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Too much ignorance here.
To Jhered, I always watch the map. Since when has it correctly showed pilots in space?
I seen it get up to around 15-20 pilots showing in space where the "big red blobs" were. So ya....
To the other FE cry babies, get over youselves, you aren't that important.
nn.
Map is broken, you should know it.
My summary: I have been around with up to ~45 NVA pilots in EC-P8R for a while. Later we have been following their main fleet for quite a while since they left after our fleet in UMI-KK (FE) chased the H-PA (NVA) dudes.
SI and TunDraGon entered then their (log off) system with 10 people seeing around 15 of them and they were hiding.
The guys in UMI-KK have been trapped from 3 directions, SI and TunDraGon forces have been split from the FE's main forces and sometimes 5-10 jumps (other route) away from NVA's main fleet.
Instead of directly moving NVA's main fleet to UMI-KK and usig H-PA's secondary and MSHD-4's tertiary fleet to assist the main fleet NVA decided to move like fat asses and log off 2 jumps away from a trapped FE fleet.
Reasons? They would have lost anyway, so I understand them perfectly. On the other hand, why did you pull out the maneuvre at all? Stay in the empire space, your dream of controlling a region is just a bad joke.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:17:00 -
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Lots of smack talk, let's wait a bit and see where the dust settles.
The dust settles, and your nowhere to be seen, the dust was created by you running away and logging off
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Tigge91862
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:17:00 -
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Since when has the map correctly showed pilots in space?...I seen it get up to around 15-20 pilots showing in space where the "big red blobs" were. So ya....
Map has always been off. We had about 30 people and it said 15.
You don't play the game a whole lot do you?
Tigge
You don't read very well do you?
Yeah, I read that, just agreeing with you that the map has always been off. But if you were just looking at the 'big red blobs' you weren't there. So you really shouldn't have anything to say.
Tigge
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Masor
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:19:00 -
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Im from UK and almost HALF our fleet is in europe, so try another excuse! and its Saturday night, so no "work in the morning" excuses, my estimation of the NVA fleet had dropped dramatically!
Pretty sad guys
Maybe some people actualy need to go to sleep hanns, some people work on sundays some people have to be up early, some people could actualy be tired. The fact is we fight when we want to fight and do not have to fight when u want us to fight. Its that simple
We where actualy looking forward to a fight. And an honourable one at that, without the smack talk but once again look who's doing all smack talking once again.
so whos the "pretty sad guys" id pretty much say it was those who posted this topic or smack talked.
War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can't smile, grin. If you can't grin, keep out of the way till you can.
The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
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Acks
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:20:00 -
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LOL
Archain You make some dam sweet movies keep doing them very well done
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:20:00 -
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NVA was outmaneuvered.
Where are the taxis rushing from paris to back you guys up?
Nothing saving you from this battle of the Marne.
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Nitro G
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:20:00 -
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NVA didnt attack FE cuz they were too busy attacking their ex alliance members. heh. |
Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:42:00 -
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Maybe some people actualy need to go to sleep hanns, some people work on sundays some people have to be up early, some people could actualy be tired. The fact is we fight when we want to fight and do not have to fight when u want us to fight. Its that simple
We where actualy looking forward to a fight. And an honourable one at that, without the smack talk but once again look who's doing all smack talking once again.
so whos the "pretty sad guys" id pretty much say it was those who posted this topic or smack talked.
Look, Masor, we were there for about 9 hours. I was up in Venal since 1pm today (its like 11pm right now). You can't claim that it got late all of a sudden and you didn't have time. It was the most pathetic show I've ever seen --- you guys advance up to 2 jumps away and then majestically log off.
Pa-thet-ic.
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:54:00 -
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It was the most pathetic show I've ever seen --- you guys advance up to 2 jumps away and then majestically log off.
Pa-thet-ic.
I wasnt at the battle, was happily carebearing at my HQ, dont care what the outcome was, dont care at all about anything within this post BUT I thought id just link a post that could explain why the NVA fleet didnt engage, its even made by one of your bumchums, Stavros..
Stavros reasons why fleet battles suck, but oh hey we'll ignore this we just want an excuse to spam the forums with more crap as per usual.
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Jhered Stern
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:12:00 -
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I wasnt at the battle, was happily carebearing at my HQ, dont care what the outcome was, dont care at all about anything within this post BUT I thought id just link a post that could explain why the NVA fleet didnt engage, its even made by one of your bumchums, Stavros..
Stavros reasons why fleet battles suck, but oh hey we'll ignore this we just want an excuse to spam the forums with more crap as per usual.
The situation in Venal was nothing like that and if anyone from either side say's it was they are liers! I was there. I saw what went down.
No matter what you NVA or NVA sypathizers say. We met NVA challenge and they backed down out of pure fear! There was the usual lag of course but no instability what so ever.
If you don't believe me talk to the GM's they were there.
Silly yellow belly's
Jhered Out!
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Zarks
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:31:00 -
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Of course I cant prove it Sally, how could I?
I would like [GM]Swoosh to confirm that I¦m way wrong here though.
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Number One
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:38:00 -
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yes we make blood sacrifices to the GM gods. to bad for NVA the blood comes from them... today the gods are angry cause the lambs never came to the slaughter
There is no good or evil in the universe only POWER!
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Zarks
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:39:00 -
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you should know number one
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.01.11 05:01:00 -
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Im from UK and almost HALF our fleet is in europe, so try another excuse! and its Saturday night, so no "work in the morning" excuses, my estimation of the NVA fleet had dropped dramatically!
Pretty sad guys
Maybe some people actualy need to go to sleep hanns, some people work on sundays some people have to be up early, some people could actualy be tired. The fact is we fight when we want to fight and do not have to fight when u want us to fight. Its that simple
We where actualy looking forward to a fight. And an honourable one at that, without the smack talk but once again look who's doing all smack talking once again.
so whos the "pretty sad guys" id pretty much say it was those who posted this topic or smack talked.
Hey Masor seems I have been kicked from the NVA so tell KIA and the Occ Repub guys I said so long. Also give respect to TankUK, The Riders and blades.
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2004.01.11 05:45:00 -
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Edited by: Cormyat Astara on 11/01/2004 05:48:52
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NVA was outmaneuvered.
Where are the taxis rushing from paris to back you guys up?
Nothing saving you from this battle of the Marne.
Essentially we were outmaneuvered--and since you don't attack on your enemy's terms, you don't get your battle tonight. Therefore, you accomplish nothing. We all know it takes some planning for you to get that big a fleet together.
We all know that when you set up an encampment, you sit pray for us to jump into it because the fleet that arrives at the battleground first has a huge advantage. And we've done it several times, because we were actually foolish enough to be affected by the nonsense that comes from your "mouths." We aren't playing your game any more.
It's also obvious that you believe that by using the forums (the forums that you don't care about, of course ) that you can somehow goad us into attacking. Nope.
Oh, and by the way...some of us don't have the time or the inclination to play this game for 8-10 hours at a shot. There is such a thing as life outside of Eve.
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2004.01.11 05:55:00 -
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I've watched Lord of the Rings: Fellowship and The Shawshank Redemption so far sitting here waiting for the NVA to show up and defend "their" territory.
This is a joke. COMPLETE joke! They can't seriously claim Venal when we have essentially patrolled up and down Venal all day today and havent been challenged once. NOW what happens --- they finally come within 2 jumps of our fleet and they all log off LOL.
Just a bunch of pusies is all they are.
This is a perfect example of the aforementioned goading. First of all...you want us to attack/defend on your schedule. Screw that. Just because you got your fleet together for a few hours does not mean we need to feel like "OMG! OMG! FE in UMI-KK!! Let's all RUSH to take them on!!! Because...that's what THEY WANT. So, let's do what THEY WANT! YEAH!"
Anyway, FE is very good with propaganda but it's all becoming very predictable. The VA is no longer a slave to PR.
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Tigge91862
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Posted - 2004.01.11 06:07:00 -
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Essentially we were outmaneuvered--and since you don't attack on your enemy's terms, you don't get your battle tonight. Therefore, you accomplish nothing. We all know it takes some planning for you to get that big a fleet together.
We all know that when you set up an encampment, you sit pray for us to jump into it because the fleet that arrives at the battleground first has a huge advantage. And we've done it several times, because we were actually foolish enough to be affected by the nonsense that comes from your "mouths." We aren't playing your game any more.
It's also obvious that you believe that by using the forums (the forums that you don't care about, of course ) that you can somehow goad us into attacking. Nope.
Oh, and by the way...some of us don't have the time or the inclination to play this game for 8-10 hours at a shot. There is such a thing as life outside of Eve.
You guys were in EC-P8R, then you moved to X-7OMU. Then you, the NVA, came up to the system two jumps away from us. We waited, and waited, and said screw it. So we came to your position and didn't find anything. So technically, we came to fight 'on your terms', but you still ran/logged/hid. That is an accurate account of what happened, in a nutshell.
And sure, a little bit of planning was made on both sides. I'm sure that the NVA, NVE, whatever, can't muster that size on a regular basis.
Oh well, 'til next time.
Tigge
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.01.11 06:19:00 -
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Edited by: Hanns on 11/01/2004 06:20:41
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Edited by: Zarks on 11/01/2004 04:27:36
Of course the GM:s were there, they have interest in FE, not in game stability.
Is this a secret? Dont think so
And btw, please tell me Im wrong regarding a gm being an active member of FE.
If I am, then Im happy. If I am correct then Im not.
OMG your so sad, GM Fate ans Sw00sh were there coz i messaged them informing them of the possibility of a large fleet battle to take place at any moment, the reason i contacted them you ask? i read somewhere the GM's like to know when fleet battles are about to take place so they can analyze some info to make fleet battle better in future patches!
Stop being such a whiner and think about what your saying before you open your mouth.
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2004.01.11 06:22:00 -
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You guys were in EC-P8R, then you moved to X-7OMU. Then you, the NVA, came up to the system two jumps away from us. We waited, and waited, and said screw it. So we came to your position and didn't find anything. So technically, we came to fight 'on your terms', but you still ran/logged/hid. That is an accurate account of what happened, in a nutshell.
And sure, a little bit of planning was made on both sides. I'm sure that the NVA, NVE, whatever, can't muster that size on a regular basis.
Oh well, 'til next time.
Tigge
I'm sure that people logged for many different reasons. It might even be that someone logged because he/she was afraid of losing a ship. Who knows? None of us can read minds.
I know that I, personally, logged out because I had dinner plans. I told the gang an hour beforehand I was going to have to log. So...I'm a coward now? Lol, bite me! And we had at least twenty members playing well past the time they were ready to call it a night.
Let me also add that NVE was not organized at all for a fleet battle. We had members of Jericho Fraction trying to join the fleet, not yet aware that their status in the alliance had changed. We had a few members remaking communication and teamspeak channels, issuing invitations....I'm shocked we got as large a fleet together as we did.
Everything changed and had to be remade on the fly. It took forever for the fleet to form. By that time, many members were growing extremely tired/impatient/frustrated. To be honest, I'm surprised people weren't logging out sooner.
It had little to do with bravery or lack thereof--though if it makes you feel better to believe that then so be it.
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Zarks
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Posted - 2004.01.11 06:26:00 -
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Edited by: Zarks on 11/01/2004 06:29:28
Do you think your words mean anything to me Hanns?
The only one I care about hearing is swoosh telling the eve community that I¦m wrong.
Then I¦ll be happy and the rumours will probably stop.
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Tigge91862
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Posted - 2004.01.11 06:37:00 -
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Edited by: Tigge91862 on 11/01/2004 06:38:28
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I'm sure that people logged for many different reasons. It might even be that someone logged because he/she was afraid of losing a ship. Who knows? None of us can read minds.
I know that I, personally, logged out because I had dinner plans. I told the gang an hour beforehand I was going to have to log. So...I'm a coward now? Lol, bite me! And we had at least twenty members playing well past the time they were ready to call it a night.
Let me also add that NVE was not organized at all for a fleet battle. We had members of Jericho Fraction trying to join the fleet, not yet aware that their status in the alliance had changed. We had a few members remaking communication and teamspeak channels, issuing invitations....I'm shocked we got as large a fleet together as we did.
Everything changed and had to be remade on the fly. It took forever for the fleet to form. By that time, many members were growing extremely tired/impatient/frustrated. To be honest, I'm surprised people weren't logging out sooner.
It had little to do with bravery or lack thereof--though if it makes you feel better to believe that then so be it.
Noone called you a coward. I know that people have RL obligations they need to tend to. We had quite of few people playing past their normal time too, ya know.
All I'm wondering is why did they advance all the way to us and then do nothing? And when we came, why did they hide? Didn't they have the advantage in numbers and the fact they already were in a defensive position?
As far as not being ready for a fleet battle. Since other talks didn't go through, did you think we were going to sit on our hands? I thought it was quite clear that further aggression was to pursue if said talks didn't go through. You guys should've been ready. I guess that's crappy planning on your behalf.
Tigge
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Posted - 2004.01.11 06:46:00 -
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Edited by: Cormyat Astara on 11/01/2004 06:47:29
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As far as not being ready for a fleet battle. Since other talks didn't go through, did you think we were going to sit on our hands? I thought it was quite clear that further aggression was to pursue if said talks didn't go through. You guys should've been ready. I guess that's crappy planning on your behalf.
Tigge
Heh. Crappy planning...or lack of information. Most of us had no clue what was happening, or what FE was up to.
Oh, and by the way--we never, ever assume that we know your true numbers. We know that you log out and back in to conceal your true numbers. Numbers mean nothing. Also, don't forget that we were keeping an eye on a small Space Invader fleet and a somewhat larger Tundragon fleet, as well as your main fleet. Our numbers were never substantially greater than yours.
It's all about initiative and feeling confident that there is order within chaos. In the absence of that, engaging a better organized opponent is unwise.
Oh, I know you weren't calling me a coward. However, Jacob Molari and a few others on this thread are making that accusation, and it's to them that I'm responding.
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Zarks
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Posted - 2004.01.11 06:48:00 -
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we got reports that UMI-KK were lagging heavily from the alts we had there.
Plus supposedly trouble of being able of jumping in at all.
Our commanders then decided that we wouldnt make a frontal assault on UMI. Then people got tired and wanted to go to bed. That was the whole exciting story.
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Tigge91862
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Posted - 2004.01.11 06:59:00 -
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we got reports that UMI-KK were lagging heavily from the alts we had there.
Plus supposedly trouble of being able of jumping in at all.
Our commanders then decided that we wouldnt make a frontal assault on UMI. Then people got tired and wanted to go to bed. That was the whole exciting story.
The lag wasn't too bad, although sure you could tell there was lag. If both fleets converged then I'm sure there would be quite a bit of lag, but that's why we messaged the GM's so they could try and get more CPU/bandwidth going on.
As far as jumping...We were jumping through their no problem. We went up there to begin with, we went up to H-PA29, then we came back to UMI-KK, and then we went to the system the NVE was occupying. Noone got stuck, but I guess that was because we had the GM's on our side right?
Tigge
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Darwin
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Posted - 2004.01.11 07:04:00 -
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Cassiopia Phaedra = Crice????
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.01.11 10:57:00 -
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No matter what you NVA or NVA sypathizers say. We met NVA challenge and they backed down out of pure fear! There was the usual lag of course but no instability what so ever.
oh yeah, i forgot you were omnipitant and can hear everything going on in everyones heads and on every teamspeak. how silly of me, get a clue then come back and post somthing that is CLOSE to the truth
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.01.11 11:04:00 -
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Maud Dib - Jericho Fraction -
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Hey Masor seems I have been kicked from the NVA so tell KIA and the Occ Repub guys I said so long. Also give respect to TankUK, The Riders and blades.
Yeah because of getting the above mentioned boot Me, Miso and Athule all left EC - after only sitting there 30mins. So unfair! I just joined up! But I guess nothing really happened anyway... 
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.01.11 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: darth solo on 11/01/2004 11:21:35
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All I have to say is that you guys just proved you are yellow-bellied pu55ycats. Meow.
My corp members went all the way down to OBE, then up thru tribute, we tried our best to hold up as many FE members as possible, we done our job the best we could.
Forgot my web, bad mistake, but we did have some PVP fun..
we left onlywhen numbers became silly.
Dont tarnish us all with the same brush my friend. my boys have balls the size of water mellons .
Oh, next time, can we kick this off, some low life tried to steal my car last night, darn stupid headphones, couldnt hear a thing:)
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.01.11 13:18:00 -
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I retract what I said earlier.
I now neither think that the NVA actions were cowardly or stupid, perhaps they were the wisest last night.
After perusing the active corps in the Venal area last night, it really seems like there are only 3 active NVA corps still in the venal area.
It really wouldn't have been smart to risk fleets that large to defend turf used by so few corps in an alliance. How many corps are ready to lose practically their entire fleet for an area used primarily by another corp... probably very few indeed.
But this leads to the following post:
The FE is moving into venal in force. Arrangements and terms can be had for those corps who still want to use Venal, otherwise, you travel into venal at your own risk.
Again, after pondering the situation last night, and learning of they myriad of duplicitous acts occurring last night, it was probably wise not to add insult to injury and potentially lose a fleet for territory of dubious value, so I therefore retract the "cowardly" and "stupid" remarks.
~Molari Out.
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Chelsea rorec
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Posted - 2004.01.11 13:38:00 -
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Hmm so it has nothing to do with the fact FE waited untill 3:3am GMT/Eve time before they did something when most of the NVA fleet was in bed ?
now whos the coward
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.01.11 13:49:00 -
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Edited by: Hanns on 11/01/2004 02:50:31
Edited by: Hanns on 11/01/2004 02:49:38
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Lots of euros in the NVA. I bet you need sleep to, right?
Im from UK and almost HALF our fleet is in europe, so try another excuse! and its Saturday night, so no "work in the morning" excuses, my estimation of the NVA fleet had dropped dramatically!
Pretty sad guys
Ok hear is a idea for you to try and tackle. Maybe we have a life except EVE and sleeping . Also here is another idea not all work is money related work. I am at uni and i have 3 of my finals next week and going to bed every day at 4 am is not going to help me so hanns take a hike.
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.01.11 13:59:00 -
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Oh there is one other thing i would like to say.
you had 35 ships we had 60 faor enough we out numbered you but you guys had a serious tatical advantage being we where the ones who had to jump in.
In the fight in EC-P8R last weekend when i jumped in my computer locked up for about 1, 30 mins and that was with 20 jumps jumping in and about 20 on the other side. so do the maths i would be looking at about 3 mins for you to gank my ship with out me being able to do anything. that is why we do not fight you on your terms.
Well we did last week and we won the fight
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Tigge91862
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Posted - 2004.01.11 14:00:00 -
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Hmm so it has nothing to do with the fact FE waited untill 3:3am GMT/Eve time before they did something when most of the NVA fleet was in bed ?
now whos the coward
Well, when we saw the fleet from X-7OMU coming up we thought they were coming to fight, so there was no reason for us to move (You guys did have the bigger force, ya know?). But then they sat a couple jumps away and logged.
If they wanted to fight so bad, why didn't they come up to us and fight? I dunno. We were in their territory, so why wouldn't they want to rid us of it? Who knows.
So then after a while we saw there was still quite an opposing force in that system(the name of it escapes me), we jumped in there and couldn't find anyone. We wanted to fight, but you all hid/logged/ran. So after that we headed up north, through H-PA29, and up into venal.
I mean, we thought you guys logged out to make it look like your numbers were dropping, but we said screw it and went anyway. So, blah blah blah.
Tigge
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.01.11 14:02:00 -
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please keep further replies to this thread friendly and clean
Thank you
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Tigge91862
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Posted - 2004.01.11 14:03:00 -
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Oh there is one other thing i would like to say.
you had 35 ships we had 60 faor enough we out numbered you but you guys had a serious tatical advantage being we where the ones who had to jump in.
In the fight in EC-P8R last weekend when i jumped in my computer locked up for about 1, 30 mins and that was with 20 jumps jumping in and about 20 on the other side. so do the maths i would be looking at about 3 mins for you to gank my ship with out me being able to do anything. that is why we do not fight you on your terms.
Well we did last week and we won the fight
Lag wasn't that bad, imo. When I joined the fleet it was about a 15 second load time, and I have a pretty good computer, so I'm thinking it would've been about 30 sec's and climbing (as people were jumping in) for someone with an average computer. About 1min tops, I would think. But I dunno, it didn't happen, so we will never know.
Tigge
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.01.11 14:19:00 -
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Oh there is one other thing i would like to say.
you had 35 ships we had 60 faor enough we out numbered you but you guys had a serious tatical advantage being we where the ones who had to jump in.
In the fight in EC-P8R last weekend when i jumped in my computer locked up for about 1, 30 mins and that was with 20 jumps jumping in and about 20 on the other side. so do the maths i would be looking at about 3 mins for you to gank my ship with out me being able to do anything. that is why we do not fight you on your terms.
Well we did last week and we won the fight
Lag wasn't that bad, imo. When I joined the fleet it was about a 15 second load time, and I have a pretty good computer, so I'm thinking it would've been about 30 sec's and climbing (as people were jumping in) for someone with an average computer. About 1min tops, I would think. But I dunno, it didn't happen, so we will never know.
Tigge
Ya but the problem is my computer sucks. 
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.01.11 14:55:00 -
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Oh there is one other thing i would like to say.
you had 35 ships we had 60 faor enough we out numbered you but you guys had a serious tatical advantage being we where the ones who had to jump in.
In the fight in EC-P8R last weekend when i jumped in my computer locked up for about 1, 30 mins and that was with 20 jumps jumping in and about 20 on the other side. so do the maths i would be looking at about 3 mins for you to gank my ship with out me being able to do anything. that is why we do not fight you on your terms.
Well we did last week and we won the fight
Lag wasn't that bad, imo. When I joined the fleet it was about a 15 second load time, and I have a pretty good computer, so I'm thinking it would've been about 30 sec's and climbing (as people were jumping in) for someone with an average computer. About 1min tops, I would think. But I dunno, it didn't happen, so we will never know.
Tigge
15 seconds isn't NORMAL.
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