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Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.03 03:08:00 - [1] Tonight, Voodosuicide was lured into a gate camp with the prospect of a 1 versus 1. It is not typically Black Fleet policy to do this; however, we felt that it was fitting reprisal for the incident that occured during our NAP negotiations earlier this year. During that time we were led to believe that a tacit no shoot policy was in effect between our corps until a NAP was finalized. At some point, Mean corp and her allies ADF, not only engaged us, but went out of their way to scan probe us, and engaged with a massive blob. This of course, was without warning. Now we feel we are even with you. You can expect us to honor all duels from this point forward. And the only reason I brought this here first, is I figured they'd be here to post about it eventually. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
T'Renn Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.06.03 03:32:00 - [2] Edited by: T''Renn on 03/06/2007 03:31:40 Unbelievable. I've been in m34n what - three days? Even if I were still in CRSQ or VHI and I saw this thread, though, I would say the same thing - you have sold out. I used to like Black Fleet - I even thought about joining Black Fleet or Red Navy Faction at one time long ago when we first met. Now, though, seeing the lows that you guys will stoop to in order to kill Voodoo... it makes me sad. There's a right way to do this and there's the wrong way. Everyone worth a fart here knows that and I thought you did too. It's a shame you sold out the integrity of yourself and your corp for a single kill. You definitely lost any respect I once had for you, and posting about it here doesn't make it better and doesn't make you "even" with us as much as you want to justify your disgusting actions. Utterly pathetic. --
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.03 04:09:00 - [3] Edited by: Karlemgne on 03/06/2007 04:10:37 Originally by: T'Renn Edited by: T''Renn on 03/06/2007 03:31:40 Unbelievable. I've been in m34n what - three days? Even if I were still in CRSQ or VHI and I saw this thread, though, I would say the same thing - you have sold out. I used to like Black Fleet - I even thought about joining Black Fleet or Red Navy Faction at one time long ago when we first met. Now, though, seeing the lows that you guys will stoop to in order to kill Voodoo... it makes me sad. There's a right way to do this and there's the wrong way. Everyone worth a fart here knows that and I thought you did too. It's a shame you sold out the integrity of yourself and your corp for a single kill. You definitely lost any respect I once had for you, and posting about it here doesn't make it better and doesn't make you "even" with us as much as you want to justify your disgusting actions. Utterly pathetic. It is your perogative to feel however you would like to feel about the incident. The fact remains that M34N corp and ADF did something similar to us resulting in the loss of 4 of our ships. Given that, I feel that it is only fair that we return the favor. We at Black Fleet believe whole heartedly, at least in game, in the notion of tit-for-tat. Or if you prefer, an eye for an eye. Now we feel we are on equal terms. Our revenge is exacted. What happens from here, is, in the final analysis up to M34N corp. Unfortunately for you, we've returned to Heimatar and are here to stay. So if you choose to fight us, things will continue to go, as I think you've seen, very poorly for you. T'Renn, on a personal level, you know me, and have flown with me before. Again, you know that the incident tonight is not typical BKFT behavior. Perhaps, even though you are Mean corp, you should reflect on that. There are two sides to every story, don't ignore that. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition Phobos Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.03 04:37:00 - [4] blobs what is a blob? surely.. a blob isn't a 4 versus 1, where, the 4 are in frigs / a cruiser, maybe an AF... and the 1 guy is in an arbitrator? or is a blob the 2v1.. a battleship and a battlecruiser.. against the arbitrator.. such things are impossible to comprehend, or i'm just rambling on while i'm mining My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:)
Commander Thrawn Fluffy Rabbit Killers	Posted - 2007.06.03 04:58:00 - [5] clearly 2 wrongs make a right.... oh wait they don't
Kulmid Nubs. D-L	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:13:00 - [6] never start a land war in Asia... ~~~~~~~~~~~ Success is the time between when you do something, and when you tell a woman what you did. "What is this RL? There is only AFK."
Kailiao The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:20:00 - [7] Originally by: Feng Schui blobs what is a blob? surely.. a blob isn't a 4 versus 1, where, the 4 are in frigs / a cruiser, maybe an AF... and the 1 guy is in an arbitrator? or is a blob the 2v1.. a battleship and a battlecruiser.. against the arbitrator.. such things are impossible to comprehend, or i'm just rambling on while i'm mining Heh, you left out the part when both times, you engaged first mate. If you want us to roll around in t1 crap, so you can be on equal grounds, forget it, we paid our dues, and have gotten many kills, in rifter's punisher's, thorax's, vexer's, ect.. You wanna duel in arbitrator's, or something more your cailibur, set it up, any place anytime mate.
T'Renn Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:21:00 - [8] Originally by: Karlemgne It is your perogative to feel however you would like to feel about the incident. The fact remains that M34N corp and ADF did something similar to us resulting in the loss of 4 of our ships. If this is true, it's entirely before my time - so I don't know both sides of the story and I frankly haven't asked. Saying that sounds like a real cop-out to me though - an excuse to get a cheap m34n kill. Originally by: Karlemgne Unfortunately for you, we've returned to Heimatar and are here to stay. So if you choose to fight us, things will continue to go, as I think you've seen, very poorly for you. Nice - let me say first off that I would not have died to your little ganksquad had I known that you and that Kane douchebag were in cahoots. That was my mistake and not due to your corp's nber tactics, so don't break your hand patting yourself on the back. Also, killing me is no great feat, I might add. Many have done it before. In my corporation I am a dwarf among giants and I know that. Originally by: Karlemgne T'Renn, on a personal level, you know me, and have flown with me before. Again, you know that the incident tonight is not typical BKFT behavior. Perhaps, even though you are Mean corp, you should reflect on that. There are two sides to every story, don't ignore that. The thing is, dude, is that I haven't even heard what the m34n guys have to say on this situation, and even if I logged on right now and asked - given my short time in the corp - I'm not sure what they would say to me about the matter if anything at all. All I knew about this incident was gleaned from your forum post. Added with the fact that I do know you and I didn't expect something like that added to my very disapproving response. I am saddened by this but I do want to get Voodoo's side of the story. Hopefully I'll do that tomorrow but I honestly don't know if that will change anything as it relates to my feelings on this whole thing. I have very few rules that I like to live by at as a pirate - the two biggest are: (1) Always honor ransoms and (2) always honor 1v1's. I don't even DO 1v1 anymore because of the risk. Had it been anyone other than you talking about anyone other than a corpmate in this thread I would have said "Eh, 1v1's are dishonored all the time in EvE now, the guy should have known that." Because of the apparent relationship between the two corps, however, and because of my both knowing you and being a member of the injured corp here -- I guess it all hits a little close to home. This is something that makes me pretty emo, actually. That's sad since all I wanted to do was shoot stuff. Maybe I should have moved farther away after leaving CRSQ / MLTOV. --
Kailiao The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:24:00 - [9] Originally by: Commander Thrawn clearly 2 wrongs make a right.... oh wait they don't 2 wrongs makes us even, there is no right or wrong mate.
Kirex Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:30:00 - [10] o.0
Feral Karkassia Minmatar Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:31:00 - [11] Led to believe there was a NAP? You guys asked for help during an op against enemies you couldn't handle, so we helped and were blue for awhile. We left the area. Then we came back. Eventually, so did you. We then realized we were still blue, changed blue standings and told you so. In fact, I was among a group that attacked one of your men in a belt, and when he cried "BLUE" we ceased fire and informed him to REMIND his ceo that we were not blue. Bad communication is your error, not ours.
Ulesi FinFleet	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:33:00 - [12] I can't believe you actually trusted them to be honest... Originally by: Puupuu dude... your face...
Krystal Divine Minmatar The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:39:00 - [13] Originally by: Feral Karkassia Led to believe there was a NAP? You guys asked for help during an op against enemies you couldn't handle, so we helped and were blue for awhile. We left the area. Then we came back. Eventually, so did you. We then realized we were still blue, changed blue standings and told you so. In fact, I was among a group that attacked one of your men in a belt, and when he cried "BLUE" we ceased fire and informed him to REMIND his ceo that we were not blue. Bad communication is your error, not ours. Our corp diplo was SS'd in space while speaking Laneth and Achmetha about reinstating the NAP. During said time your corp decided to probe our diplo out and pop him. Shady much?
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition Phobos Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:39:00 - [14] Edited by: Feng Schui on 03/06/2007 05:39:03 Originally by: Kailiao Originally by: Feng Schui blobs what is a blob? surely.. a blob isn't a 4 versus 1, where, the 4 are in frigs / a cruiser, maybe an AF... and the 1 guy is in an arbitrator? or is a blob the 2v1.. a battleship and a battlecruiser.. against the arbitrator.. such things are impossible to comprehend, or i'm just rambling on while i'm mining Heh, you left out the part when both times, you engaged first mate. If you want us to roll around in t1 crap, so you can be on equal grounds, forget it, we paid our dues, and have gotten many kills, in rifter's punisher's, thorax's, vexer's, ect.. You wanna duel in arbitrator's, or something more your cailibur, set it up, any place anytime mate. i can't believe you took anything in that post seriously but yes, i always try to engage first... i'm not much into getting alpha striked. edit: who are you again? lol... i remember the corp.. not the name though.. i get killed alot My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:)
Kailiao The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:42:00 - [15] Originally by: Feral Karkassia Led to believe there was a NAP? You guys asked for help during an op against enemies you couldn't handle, so we helped and were blue for awhile. We left the area. Then we came back. Eventually, so did you. We then realized we were still blue, changed blue standings and told you so. In fact, I was among a group that attacked one of your men in a belt, and when he cried "BLUE" we ceased fire and informed him to REMIND his ceo that we were not blue. Bad communication is your error, not ours. Heh..... we never asked for your help mate, the anti-pies, we where killing on a regular basis, left, and went to 0.0, you moved into kat, then the nap was talked about, you broke it, left secure tins, saying under new management, and 1 saying i believe, system looks good we'll take it. We left to go fight up north, for a change of pace, went to 0.0, got bored quick, made good isk, then came back to take back our home system, and a little payback,in the preocess. we have never dishonerd a duel mate, at least in the year i have been with bkft, and that's a fact. this imho, wasn't a duel, it was payback, and we got it, end of story. Your attempt's to make us look bad on the forums, mean **** to us mate, you can't kill us in game, or out, it seems.
Feral Karkassia Minmatar Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:42:00 - [16] "Our corp diplo was SS'd in space while speaking Laneth and Achmetha about reinstating the NAP. During said time your corp decided to probe our diplo out and pop him. Shady much?" I'd like to hear both sides of the story there, cause unlike you folks, we ARE honorable. Was your "diplomatic discussion" something like "OH GOD PLEASE STOP KILLING US"? 'Cause I doubt that counts.
Kailiao The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:44:00 - [17] Originally by: Feng Schui Edited by: Feng Schui on 03/06/2007 05:39:03 Originally by: Kailiao Originally by: Feng Schui blobs what is a blob? surely.. a blob isn't a 4 versus 1, where, the 4 are in frigs / a cruiser, maybe an AF... and the 1 guy is in an arbitrator? or is a blob the 2v1.. a battleship and a battlecruiser.. against the arbitrator.. such things are impossible to comprehend, or i'm just rambling on while i'm mining Heh, you left out the part when both times, you engaged first mate. If you want us to roll around in t1 crap, so you can be on equal grounds, forget it, we paid our dues, and have gotten many kills, in rifter's punisher's, thorax's, vexer's, ect.. You wanna duel in arbitrator's, or something more your cailibur, set it up, any place anytime mate. i can't believe you took anything in that post seriously but yes, i always try to engage first... i'm not much into getting alpha striked. edit: who are you again? lol... i remember the corp.. not the name though.. i get killed alot In your mail, there will be 2-3 loss mail's with my name on it, it will help you to remember :)
Krystal Divine Minmatar The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:45:00 - [18] Originally by: Feral Karkassia "Our corp diplo was SS'd in space while speaking Laneth and Achmetha about reinstating the NAP. During said time your corp decided to probe our diplo out and pop him. Shady much?" I'd like to hear both sides of the story there, cause unlike you folks, we ARE honorable. Was your "diplomatic discussion" something like "OH GOD PLEASE STOP KILLING US"? 'Cause I doubt that counts. No, it was like "WTF, why are you shooting at blues?" Please, don't pretend like your corp is honorable. And while you're at it, don't act like you're pwning us. Since we've been back, the only thing you guys have done is smack in local. Because it's all you've got left.
John Dean The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:47:00 - [19] As far as this thread is concerned, yes, we did kill Voodoo dishonorably. The order to get on the gate and engage him with a ganksquad came from me, John Dean. I know this is dishonorable, and my actions reflect on the corp, but i would like to say this: a few of the people in the gang were opposed to the idea and i gave the order to engage anyways. "Why would you go so low as to dishonor a 1v1? Are you a coward?" Good question! No I am not a coward. I ALWAYS honor my 1v1's. The reason I gave the order is because, as we were supposedly under negotiations with Mean, they used their lackeys [A-D-F] to scan probe me out in a ss and they blob ganked me. 2007.01.13 22:33 Victim: John Dean Alliance: NONE Corp: The Black Fleet Destroyed: Ferox System: Eifer Security: 0.4 Involved parties: Name: DiamondBlade Security: -9.9 Alliance: NONE Corp: Mean Corp Ship: Huginn Weapon: Valkyrie II Name: Achmetha Security: -10.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: Mean Corp Ship: Vagabond Weapon: Vagabond Name: Feral Karkassia (laid the final blow) Security: -8.3 Alliance: NONE Corp: Mean Corp Ship: Wolf Weapon: 150mm Light AutoCannon II Name: Aiko Shinjiro Security: -9.4 Alliance: NONE Corp: Nekkakami Corp Ship: Manticore Weapon: Wrath Cruise Missile Name: Voodoosuicide Security: -2.4 Alliance: NONE Corp: Mean Corp Ship: Tempest Weapon: Tempest Name: bfmReciprocity Security: -9.5 Alliance: NONE Corp: Mean Corp Ship: Raven Weapon: Valkyrie TP-600 Thats the mail from my death. It was only a ferox, but its the principle: Lured into a false sense of security and pwned. Same thing happend to Voodoo. An eye for an eye. No hard feelings. I am content. And thats MY 2 cents on the matter. ---------------------------------------------- THE BLACK FLEET Killing the galaxy one ship at a time.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition Phobos Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:48:00 - [20] Originally by: Kailiao Originally by: Feng Schui Edited by: Feng Schui on 03/06/2007 05:39:03 Originally by: Kailiao Originally by: Feng Schui blobs what is a blob? surely.. a blob isn't a 4 versus 1, where, the 4 are in frigs / a cruiser, maybe an AF... and the 1 guy is in an arbitrator? or is a blob the 2v1.. a battleship and a battlecruiser.. against the arbitrator.. such things are impossible to comprehend, or i'm just rambling on while i'm mining Heh, you left out the part when both times, you engaged first mate. If you want us to roll around in t1 crap, so you can be on equal grounds, forget it, we paid our dues, and have gotten many kills, in rifter's punisher's, thorax's, vexer's, ect.. You wanna duel in arbitrator's, or something more your cailibur, set it up, any place anytime mate. i can't believe you took anything in that post seriously but yes, i always try to engage first... i'm not much into getting alpha striked. edit: who are you again? lol... i remember the corp.. not the name though.. i get killed alot In your mail, there will be 2-3 loss mail's with my name on it, it will help you to remember :) i'm not going to look through 200+ concord mails to search for something i don't really care about tbh My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:)
John Dean The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.03 05:54:00 - [21] Originally by: Feral Karkassia Led to believe there was a NAP? You guys asked for help during an op against enemies you couldn't handle, so we helped and were blue for awhile. We left the area. Then we came back. Eventually, so did you. We then realized we were still blue, changed blue standings and told you so. In fact, I was among a group that attacked one of your men in a belt, and when he cried "BLUE" we ceased fire and informed him to REMIND his ceo that we were not blue. Bad communication is your error, not ours. ACTUALLY, I spoke with Achmetha just 15 minutes prior to the incident and we agreed temp cease fire to put up corp votes for standings, so Feral YOU are full of dog crap. And to adress mean coming in to help us in another region, yes we did in fact ask for Mean's help with overwhelming foes. The convo i had with Achmetha that i describe 2 paragraphs up was to talk about a permanent standings set. Get your stories straight or shut your filthy mouth! That is all. ---------------------------------------------- THE BLACK FLEET Killing the galaxy one ship at a time.
Kakihara Gallente Corporation 79543549	Posted - 2007.06.03 06:53:00 - [22] My advice is simple: Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH IS ON THE LINE
Davina Sienar Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.06.03 07:26:00 - [23] BLAH We have done it - You have done it We are back - You are Back Let's get it on AFAIK we have never been real "Friends", true there was a blue during some Ops ago but Corp Vote says: no blue So: BLAH welcome back to Heimatar
mandaro	Posted - 2007.06.03 08:37:00 - [24] Lame.
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.06.03 09:54:00 - [25] Edited by: Arekhon on 03/06/2007 09:54:57 Originally by: Kulmid never start a land war in Asia... ROFL.... should have joined teh BEES Renn....saw ya in our local a couple days ago, owell best of luck to ya and c ya in space m8 proud member of [BEES] my thoughts and ideas represent your corp
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated	Posted - 2007.06.03 10:53:00 - [26] Edited by: Kane Rizzel on 03/06/2007 10:53:09 Originally by: T'Renn Nice - let me say first off that I would not have died to your little ganksquad had I known that you and that Kane douchebag were in cahoots. That was my mistake and not due to your corp's nber tactics, so don't break your hand patting yourself on the back. Also, killing me is no great feat, I might add. Many have done it before. In my corporation I am a dwarf among giants and I know that. You guys are rolling around ganking noobs in t1 ships with your Myrms, I was in a rifter, in a belt, you engaged me, how the hell did you not see it as a trap. You had friends in the system, why didn't they come to help you? Man, 0.0 politics coming to lowsec, meh Oh and I'm more.... freelance but The Black Fleet are fun to fly with Edit: To fix Quote tags
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.03 16:12:00 - [27] Originally by: Kane Rizzel Edited by: Kane Rizzel on 03/06/2007 10:53:09 Originally by: T'Renn Nice - let me say first off that I would not have died to your little ganksquad had I known that you and that Kane douchebag were in cahoots. That was my mistake and not due to your corp's nber tactics, so don't break your hand patting yourself on the back. Also, killing me is no great feat, I might add. Many have done it before. In my corporation I am a dwarf among giants and I know that. You guys are rolling around ganking noobs in t1 ships with your Myrms, I was in a rifter, in a belt, you engaged me, how the hell did you not see it as a trap. You had friends in the system, why didn't they come to help you? Man, 0.0 politics coming to lowsec, meh Oh and I'm more.... freelance but The Black Fleet are fun to fly with Edit: To fix Quote tags Oh no, it has a completely differnt character than 0.0 politics. Its low sec politics, which is a hell of a lot more fun. No poses, and people living 1 jump away frome eachother. Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.03 16:14:00 - [28] Originally by: mandaro Lame. More or less lame than being told a no-shoot pre-standing policy was in effect, only to be scanned out and blobbed? -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.03 16:43:00 - [29] Originally by: Kailiao Originally by: Commander Thrawn clearly 2 wrongs make a right.... oh wait they don't 2 wrongs makes us even, there is no right or wrong mate. A-f*****-men, brother. That's what it amounts to right there, condensed and perfectly articulated by Kailiao. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.*
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.03 16:44:00 - [30] Originally by: Kulmid never start a land war in Asia... Or get involved in a wager with a Sicilian when death is on the line... Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
T'Renn Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.06.03 17:40:00 - [31] Originally by: Kane Rizzel You guys are rolling around ganking noobs in t1 ships with your Myrms Only because my Astarte is on the other side of highsec -- I'd much rather gank the noobs in that. Originally by: Kane Rizzel I was in a rifter, in a belt, you engaged me, how the hell did you not see it as a trap. You had friends in the system, why didn't they come to help you? I did not engage you. I just sat there, doing something else before warping out. Like I said - my mistake. I had no idea you were going to tackle me so your boyfriends could come in pop me. As far as "friends in system to help me." I called everyone else off once I saw the gank was on. Originally by: Kane Rizzel Oh and I'm more.... freelance but The Black Fleet are fun to fly with I'm sure you have a future with them. You seem to possess the required lack of moral fortitude. --
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated	Posted - 2007.06.03 17:48:00 - [32] By not engaging I'm assuming you mean warp scramble doesn't count ;) Lacking in Moral Fortitude? Thanks :D
T'Renn Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.06.03 18:14:00 - [33] uh... whatever, dude. Check the logs. You're just trying to save face or something which - whatever... this is C&P -- no one cares. Also - the ***** about your moral fortitude wasn't meant to be a compliment. I personally believe that you can do what I do and still uphold a high moral standard. Apparently that is an ever-decreasing sentiment among my peers, and that's truly unfortunate. --
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated	Posted - 2007.06.03 18:18:00 - [34] Originally by: T'Renn uh... whatever, dude. Check the logs. You're just trying to save face or something which - whatever... this is C&P -- no one cares. Also - the ***** about your moral fortitude wasn't meant to be a compliment. I personally believe that you can do what I do and still uphold a high moral standard. Apparently that is an ever-decreasing sentiment among my peers, and that's truly unfortunate. You might want to check your logs, I've checked mine. Besides, why you whining about getting ganked, it was a well setup trap, you fell for it, life goes on. Whatever, sorry for derailing your thread The Black Fleet
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.03 18:37:00 - [35] mmmmmm i don't think anyone can make a judgement without knowing the whole details about what they did tbh. Don't think it's something that should be made public. keep it between ur corps. i do understand the reason for your post as u said tho. DE
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.06.03 21:31:00 - [36] Originally by: Ulesi I can't believe you actually trusted them to be honest... Its Black Fleet, enough said .
Muhaar Gemeinian Armee der Finsternis	Posted - 2007.06.03 23:58:00 - [37] Originally by: John Dean ...they used their lackeys [A-D-F] to scan probe me out in a ss... As far as i remember, we weren't even in this area at the time of that killmail and also not friends with M34N. Get your facts straight before posting crap. In any case, using that event (which happened about 5 months ago) to justify your present dishonorable acts is pretty low. Sounds more like a welcome excuse after you realised you screwed up. Now, can we get back to killing each other peacefully? Armee der Finsternis rekrutiert
T'Renn Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.06.04 00:15:00 - [38] Originally by: Kane Rizzel You might want to check your logs, I've checked mine. 2007.06.02 02:05:07, you'll see it there [ 2007.06.02 02:04:49 ] (notify) Kane Rizzel [NOVAK](Rifter) has started trying to warp scramble you. [ 2007.06.02 02:05:07 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble Kane Rizzel [NOVAK](Rifter). See that? I agree that I did scram you after you'd scrammed me, though I knew my ship was lost. I didn't even deploy my drones or actually shoot at you once you'd tackled me - I knew what was about to happen. What I'm saying here is that you initiated combat with me - the logs prove it. Also you said "well setup trap" (which is laughable btw.) So you're basically contradicting yourself here. You SAID IN THIS VERY THREAD that I initiated combat with you, which I didn't. The logs tell the tale - which is why I told you to check them. Honestly you just owned yourself here. That's okay - next time I'll be sure to shoot first. You be sure to keep your black fleet boyfriends close by to save you -- you're gonna need all the help you can get. See ya in space, babe. --
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated	Posted - 2007.06.04 00:28:00 - [39] Woah there sunshine, I never said you agressed first, only that you did agress which you denied. Yeah you got ganked, you didn't even fight back, pretty sad really. If I'm going down I'm at least going to fight back. As for my "boyfriends" keep it up, ad hom attacks are so cool. You talk about moral fortitude and say you are above it but ad hom on the forum, pot, phone for you, it's kettle.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.04 00:41:00 - [40] Edited by: Karlemgne on 04/06/2007 00:40:47 Edited by: Karlemgne on 04/06/2007 00:40:00 Originally by: Davina Sienar BLAH We have done it - You have done it We are back - You are Back Let's get it on AFAIK we have never been real "Friends", true there was a blue during some Ops ago but Corp Vote says: no blue So: BLAH welcome back to Heimatar Who said we were offering you standings? We like you guys very much just the way you are. M34N corp spawns drop a lot of good and often faction loot. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Sodium Phosphate Gallente Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.04 00:58:00 - [41] Edited by: Sodium Phosphate on 04/06/2007 00:57:55 Doesnt this belong in CAOD?
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.04 00:59:00 - [42] Originally by: T'Renn Originally by: Kane Rizzel You guys are rolling around ganking noobs in t1 ships with your Myrms Only because my Astarte is on the other side of highsec -- I'd much rather gank the noobs in that. Originally by: Kane Rizzel I was in a rifter, in a belt, you engaged me, how the hell did you not see it as a trap. You had friends in the system, why didn't they come to help you? I did not engage you. I just sat there, doing something else before warping out. Like I said - my mistake. I had no idea you were going to tackle me so your boyfriends could come in pop me. As far as "friends in system to help me." I called everyone else off once I saw the gank was on. Originally by: Kane Rizzel Oh and I'm more.... freelance but The Black Fleet are fun to fly with I'm sure you have a future with them. You seem to possess the required lack of moral fortitude. Right, we lack moral fortitude. I am sure that when M34N corp probed us out, which percipiated this event, their behvior was indicative of moral fortitude. Psh... You can't have it both ways. We cannot be scumbags for doing what we did, while mean corp is the instanciation of pirate morality, when they did something equally as dishonest. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.04 01:00:00 - [43] Originally by: Sodium Phosphate Edited by: Sodium Phosphate on 04/06/2007 00:57:55 Doesnt this belong in CAOD? Come on now, all "you violated a 1v1" threads between pirates go here. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
AOS brendan Gallente The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.04 01:08:00 - [44] omg wtf we killed a myrmadon by using bait?!?!?!?!?
Achmetha	Posted - 2007.06.04 01:10:00 - [45] Black Fleet lol, you guys got wtfpwned everytime we met. The time that is in question there was talk of a NAP this does not mean you are blue tho, if you remember correctly I kept M34N blue to you so there was no incidents of friendly fire until someone in Blackfleet could change standings. Luckilly I dont delete logs very often... [ 2007.03.22 19:33:40 ] Achmetha > lo [ 2007.03.22 19:33:48 ] Achmetha > have u guys removed ur stnadings to us yet [ 2007.03.22 19:34:20 ] Achmetha > i spoke to someone else in blackfleet but they said they could not change standings so i left ours [ 2007.03.22 19:34:33 ] AOS brendan > yes [ 2007.03.22 19:34:39 ] AOS brendan > we are no longer blue [ 2007.03.22 19:34:43 ] Achmetha > k cool [ 2007.03.22 19:34:49 ] AOS brendan > i reset standings [ 2007.03.22 19:34:49 ] Achmetha > i will change urs [ 2007.03.22 19:34:51 ] Achmetha > cheers [ 2007.03.22 19:34:53 ] AOS brendan > ok [ 2007.03.22 19:34:56 ] AOS brendan > c ya closely follwed by... 2007.03.22 19:39 Victim: AOS brendan Alliance: Rule of Three Corp: The Black Fleet Destroyed: Dominix System: Sotrenzur Security: 0.3 Involved parties: Name: Achmetha (laid the final blow) Security: -10.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: Mean Corp Ship: Sleipnir Weapon: 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II Name: Anna Blauensteiner Security: -9.9 Alliance: NONE Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: Tempest Weapon: Hornet EC-300 Name: Hopser Security: -8.5 Alliance: NONE Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: Hyperion Weapon: Hyperion Name: Muhaar Gemeinian Security: -9.6 Alliance: NONE Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: Vexor Weapon: Hammerhead II Name: Angel Depredator / Archangels Name: dueft Security: -9.9 Alliance: NONE Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: Prophecy Weapon: Medium 'Knave' I Energy Drain Name: Sumo Kobiashi Security: -6.7 Alliance: NONE Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: Vengeance Weapon: 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Destroyed items: X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Medium 'Ghoul' Energy Siphon I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Cap Booster 800, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Ogre II (Drone Bay) Ogre II (Drone Bay) Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Vespa I (Drone Bay) Vespa I (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin II (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin II (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin II (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin II (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin II (Drone Bay) Hornet I (Drone Bay) Hornet I (Drone Bay) Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Ogre II (Drone Bay) Dont try and tell me M34N have shot you while we were talking about a NAP, you werent blue and you knew it. M34N has never ganked someone during a 1v1, if we were talking about a NAP it does not mean you are blue. I think this incident demonstrates Black Fleet are not to be trusted in the eve community, if these are the tactics you need to use to get a kill then this demonstrates the skill and integrity of the ppl in your corp.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.04 01:11:00 - [46] Edited by: Karlemgne on 04/06/2007 01:10:39 Originally by: Muhaar Gemeinian Originally by: John Dean ...they used their lackeys [A-D-F] to scan probe me out in a ss... As far as i remember, we weren't even in this area at the time of that killmail and also not friends with M34N. Get your facts straight before posting crap. In any case, using that event (which happened about 5 months ago) to justify your present dishonorable acts is pretty low. Sounds more like a welcome excuse after you realised you screwed up. Now, can we get back to killing each other peacefully? Realized we screwed up? We ganked the man with about 10 ships at a gate, we knew fully well what we were doing. The reason for the delay in our retribution has to do with our prolonged stay in 0.0. Furthermore you were in the area at the time of the original incident, and did scan us out. One of the excuses M34N gave at the time was that it was ADF that scanned us out and engaged, and they didn't know who they were warping on. A funny claim given that only ADF, MEAN, and BKFT were in system at the time. As for you not being friends with mean now. Its kind of strange given that when your corpmate ejected from his Sleipner (giving it to us) tonight, he followed it up with this link http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6326/20061117215015zt0.png A picture of M34N corp carriers. As if this was somehow to make up for his loss, and the quiting of the smack flowing from his mouth. -Karlemgne btw... capitals are supposed to scare us? What exactly do you think we were doing in 0.0? Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.04 01:15:00 - [47] Edited by: Karlemgne on 04/06/2007 01:13:56 Originally by: Achmetha Black Fleet lol, you guys got wtfpwned everytime we met. The time that is in question there was talk of a NAP this does not mean you are blue tho, if you remember correctly I kept M34N blue to you so there was no incidents of friendly fire until someone in Blackfleet could change standings. Luckilly I dont delete logs very often... [ 2007.03.22 19:33:40 ] Achmetha > lo [ 2007.03.22 19:33:48 ] Achmetha > have u guys removed ur stnadings to us yet [ 2007.03.22 19:34:20 ] Achmetha > i spoke to someone else in blackfleet but they said they could not change standings so i left ours [ 2007.03.22 19:34:33 ] AOS brendan > yes [ 2007.03.22 19:34:39 ] AOS brendan > we are no longer blue [ 2007.03.22 19:34:43 ] Achmetha > k cool [ 2007.03.22 19:34:49 ] AOS brendan > i reset standings [ 2007.03.22 19:34:49 ] Achmetha > i will change urs [ 2007.03.22 19:34:51 ] Achmetha > cheers [ 2007.03.22 19:34:53 ] AOS brendan > ok [ 2007.03.22 19:34:56 ] AOS brendan > c ya closely follwed by... 2007.03.22 19:39 Victim: AOS brendan Alliance: Rule of Three Corp: The Black Fleet Destroyed: Dominix System: Sotrenzur Security: 0.3 Involved parties: Name: Achmetha (laid the final blow) Security: -10.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: Mean Corp Ship: Sleipnir Weapon: 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II Name: Anna Blauensteiner Security: -9.9 Alliance: NONE Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: Tempest Weapon: Hornet EC-300 Name: Hopser Security: -8.5 Alliance: NONE Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: Hyperion Weapon: Hyperion Name: Muhaar Gemeinian Security: -9.6 Alliance: NONE Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: Vexor Weapon: Hammerhead II Name: Angel Depredator / Archangels Name: dueft Security: -9.9 Alliance: NONE Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: Prophecy Weapon: Medium 'Knave' I Energy Drain Name: Sumo Kobiashi Security: -6.7 Alliance: NONE Corp: Armee der Finsternis Ship: Vengeance Weapon: 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Destroyed items: X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Medium 'Ghoul' Energy Siphon I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Cap Booster 800, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Ogre II (Drone Bay) Ogre II (Drone Bay) Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Vespa I (Drone Bay) Vespa I (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin II (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin II (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin II (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin II (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin II (Drone Bay) Hornet I (Drone Bay) Hornet I (Drone Bay) Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Ogre II (Drone Bay) Dont try and tell me M34N have shot you while we were talking about a NAP, you werent blue and you knew it. M34N has never ganked someone during a 1v1, if we were talking about a NAP it does not mean you are blue. I think this incident demonstrates Black Fleet are not to be trusted in the eve community, if these are the tactics you need to use to get a kill then this demonstrates the skill and integrity of the ppl in your corp. Perhaps you should examine our killboards. You will see who is getting wtfpownd. Interestingly enough, thanks for posting that kill. Establishing that ADF WAS, in fact, "in the area," and apparently engaging us while flying with M34N. You lose, even on the forums. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Sodium Phosphate Gallente Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.04 02:16:00 - [48] Im pretty sure discussing corporation ethics/ corporation insults dont belong in piracy. How bout describing the fight instead of apologizing?
T'Renn Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.06.04 02:29:00 - [49] yeah I did scram you back and did say that I didn't fight back in this thread. I forgot I scrammed you. Sorry - don't mean to be duplicitous, I simply forgot scramming him back. I wouldn't have died had I known you guys were in cahoots. I can't emphasize that enough. As far as the tiff between black fleet and mean corp, I don't know what happened to you guys before and I don't really care. It was crappy to gank voodoo in that manner - end of story. I do know that I didn't want to get involved in this crap. I've been really unimpressed with the second "M" in "MMO" lately. --
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated	Posted - 2007.06.04 02:38:00 - [50] Originally by: T'Renn yeah I did scram you back and did say that I didn't fight back in this thread. I forgot I scrammed you. Sorry - don't mean to be duplicitous, I simply forgot scramming him back. I wouldn't have died had I known you guys were in cahoots. I can't emphasize that enough. As far as the tiff between black fleet and mean corp, I don't know what happened to you guys before and I don't really care. It was crappy to gank voodoo in that manner - end of story. I do know that I didn't want to get involved in this crap. I've been really unimpressed with the second "M" in "MMO" lately. No worries, I think things get way too complicated sometimes but running solo isn't conducive to lowsec survival, The Black Fleet and I have killed each other on one or two occasions and just started chatting in local one night, started flying with them to take on bigger targets, unfortunately, that night, you were one. I love flying my Rifters but when guys in BCs and BS start hunting me it's time for a little help. It's the way of the universe, there's always a bigger fish. I'll see you in space, good hunting
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.04 03:31:00 - [51] Originally by: T'Renn yeah I did scram you back and did say that I didn't fight back in this thread. I forgot I scrammed you. Sorry - don't mean to be duplicitous, I simply forgot scramming him back. I wouldn't have died had I known you guys were in cahoots. I can't emphasize that enough. As far as the tiff between black fleet and mean corp, I don't know what happened to you guys before and I don't really care. It was crappy to gank voodoo in that manner - end of story. I do know that I didn't want to get involved in this crap. I've been really unimpressed with the second "M" in "MMO" lately. You are correct, it wasn't very sportsman like of us to gank Voodo. However in the world of EVE piracy, what goes around comes around, as they say. Or in the wise words of my corpmate Kailiao, "its not about right and wrong. Two wrongs don't make us right, they make us even." -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.04 03:37:00 - [52] Edited by: Karlemgne on 04/06/2007 03:40:00 Edited by: Karlemgne on 04/06/2007 03:38:56 Edited by: Karlemgne on 04/06/2007 03:36:48 Originally by: Sodium Phosphate Im pretty sure discussing corporation ethics/ corporation insults dont belong in piracy. How bout describing the fight instead of apologizing? Sure. We told Voodo that John Dean would be waiting in Sotrenzur at a planet to duel him in Battleship class ships. They should have known better, since we had been station camping them 5 minutes before. Regardless, we all sat on the gate. A mixed gang of Goonies, Black Fleet, and NovaKane. There were probably 13 tp 15 of us in mixed ships. Voodiesuicide jumped through the gate, and was immediately locked, scrambled, and wtfganked. He was even gracious enough to let his pod float there long enough for a command ship to lock him, and pod him. His bounty was generously donated to the BKFT capital ship fuel fund. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Davina Sienar Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.06.04 08:36:00 - [53] BLAH (again) Someone please close this thread Its getting boooooooring
Ryoka Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.04 08:49:00 - [54] low sec fun I've yet to see Black Fleet fight with similar numbers or even even fleets! The other night comes into play in eifer where you out blobbed M34N 2 to 1 and you engaged bfm and I decided to interveen and make it a much better fight (Drake, Falcon v Eos, cyclone, ranis, hurricane, brutix and 2 more which I can't remember)and you ran?! I mean come on!? M34N are very hounorable pilots and there are more threads on here about AOS Brenden than most lol. I have respect for karlemgne even though even though I thought it was cruel letting you think of a Tri fleet was nearby last week but not hounoring a 1v1 again and calling it tit for tat is just low evenf or low sec pirates Good luck to yourselfs but M34N are better quality than of BF anyday.
Celestal	Posted - 2007.06.04 11:18:00 - [55] Originally by: Karlemgne Regardless, we all sat on the gate. A mixed gang of Goonies, Black Fleet, and NovaKane. -Karlemgne aah now its all clear . no need to say anything more that sentence makes it all clear and explains what the black feet is all about .
darthimus	Posted - 2007.06.04 11:54:00 - [56] Ok lets just establish something Since you guys left Heimetar - Apart from one small op up north where we came to help you out(you can dress it up all you like thats what we did) along with Flashman and RA- we have never been Blue with you guys in the 7 months i have been in M34N corp - and the only time we have been negotiating with people in that manner was for that instance- now if you lost a ship in heimetar whilst Laneth achmetha etc were negotiating thats just the luck of the draw(perhaps the rest of our corp werent aware of the negotiations this is just a matter of timeframes- we would not send out a mail saying dont shoot a corp as we are negotiating standings to them untill its agreed its pointless and causes confusion the guys on that km probably had no knowledge of what was going on )this does not warrant breaking 1 vs 1 rules aqnd therefore you have let your corp down badly. I was aware- i was sat up north with RA and Flashman waiting to get it on - on your behalf I havent seen voodoo complaining about his Loss to someone who is blue because he didnt the fact is here you asked for a one vs one this is a different matter as that is agreement between two individuals and you are the people who have decided to bring this to the attention of the EVE Forum- i ask what is the point we are not set Blue to you so why would we give a flying fig however thank you for publiscising the dishonour amongst your members and that fact that you deliberated over it. Now whilst heimetar is the subject of your discussions leave your nice rule of thumb alliance behind and come back and get it on
Muhaar Gemeinian Armee der Finsternis	Posted - 2007.06.04 13:38:00 - [57] Originally by: Karlemgne Establishing that ADF WAS, in fact, "in the area," and apparently engaging us while flying with M34N. If you had actually read what i was saying you would have noticed, that i was referring to the other killmail which dates back to mid january. Also i have no idea what that screenshot is supposed to prove. I can't find any link to ADF on it. Back on topic, i find it amusing how you turn from an 'apology' to flaming Voodoo for getting podded by your camp in 2 pages. Bravo! Armee der Finsternis rekrutiert
Wesley Baird Ever Flow FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.04 14:04:00 - [58] The op should never have opened this thread, as the smacktalk will be worse than Jita on a sat night! It will go something like this "You're a nub"-> "Every time we fight you, we kill all of you, because we are supper l33t" -> "You suck at PvP" -> "We rule" -> "Yes im docked, and smacking" -> "I have a carrier, I rule"-> "Im still docked, but you all suck and I can single handedly kill you all, but im too busy watching tv, and smacking"-> "OMFG you guys suck" etc etc etc... MEAN Corp, winning the Eve Smack competition...now please come and kill me, if you can find the undock button...
darthimus	Posted - 2007.06.04 15:51:00 - [59] Originally by: Wesley Baird The op should never have opened this thread, as the smacktalk will be worse than Jita on a sat night! It will go something like this "You're a nub"-> "Every time we fight you, we kill all of you, because we are supper l33t" -> "You suck at PvP" -> "We rule" -> "Yes im docked, and smacking" -> "I have a carrier, I rule"-> "Im still docked, but you all suck and I can single handedly kill you all, but im too busy watching tv, and smacking"-> "OMFG you guys suck" etc etc etc... MEAN Corp, winning the Eve Smack competition...now please come and kill me, if you can find the undock button... A thread thats nothing to do with everflow and now your talking about smaeck besides i didnt realise you still existed Where are you?
Kailiao The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.04 16:12:00 - [60] Originally by: Ryoka Edited by: Ryoka on 04/06/2007 08:54:28 low sec fun I've yet to see Black Fleet fight with similar numbers or even even fleets! The other night comes into play in eifer where you out blobbed M34N 2 to 1 and then all your fleet v 1 on the gate and you engaged bfm and I decided to interveen and make it a much better fight (Drake(bfm), Falcon(me) v Eos, cyclone, ranis, hurricane, brutix and 2 more which I can't remember)and you ran?! I mean come on!? M34N are very hounorable pilots and there are more threads on here about AOS Brenden than most lol. I have respect for karlemgne even though I thought it was cruel letting you think of a Tri fleet was nearby last week but not hounoring a 1v1 again and calling it tit for tat is just low even for low sec pirates Good luck to yourselfs but M34N are better quality than of BF anyday. Who the hell is Triumvirate? never herd of you guys, cept on the forums, hmm, we ran? i doupt it. And your fleet, bring em in, more loot for us. we need a challenge, kinda boreing lately, oh and bring faction mods please.
Wesley Baird Ever Flow FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.04 16:14:00 - [61] Edited by: Wesley Baird on 04/06/2007 16:15:50 Originally by: darthimus A thread thats nothing to do with everflow and now your talking about smaeck besides i didnt realise you still existed Where are you? I couldnt resist the urge, its just my own MEAN demons wanting to get out...I've been visiting Kat alot lately, all I ever get is smack...well and one CNR a few weeks ago... Almost caught a Myrmidon in the plex last week, but he found the dock button...then a carrier appeared...then everyone docked...there was some smack...just another day in Kat.. Do you guys do anything but moon mine? Or do you still think you are pirates? We all know real pirate run plex's and moon mine all day...
Bagehi Caldari Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.06.04 16:19:00 - [62] Oh boy... the world is about to fall apart, EVF is talking about other people laying down the smack talk. Nothing against you guys, I did fly with you for a while back there, but, on a good day, you guys have even Voodoo beat in smack talk. Possibly even... dare I say it... Ginger Magician? I've flown with him for a bit too even, I don't know where he comes up with all the stuff flowing out of his mouth, but it is hilarious. All of you make me laugh a lot, but seriously, none of you should be complaining about other people smack talking.
darthimus	Posted - 2007.06.04 16:21:00 - [63] then leave and take the war dec
darthimus	Posted - 2007.06.04 16:22:00 - [64] your quite ******** really arent you - mean corp has never moon mined
Davina Sienar Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.06.04 16:41:00 - [65] ehhhm... LOL EVF ? kicked out of area and still not over it ? BKFT ? kicked out of area and only back cause in ally and u know u will be wd'd the same moment u leave it... (ahh and still not over it) BLAH yes,yes BKFT u are fighting on equal numbers.... where ? @ home with that EVE-Collectable Card Game ? Quote: Hey ! Look what I have: Dark Blood intelligence resistance plating !!! woot !
Kailiao The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.04 16:46:00 - [66] Edited by: Kailiao on 04/06/2007 16:45:51 Originally by: Davina Sienar ehhhm... LOL EVF ? kicked out of area and still not over it ? BKFT ? kicked out of area and only back cause in ally and u know u will be wd'd the same moment u leave it... (ahh and still not over it) BLAH yes,yes BKFT u are fighting on equal numbers.... where ? @ home with that EVE-Collectable Card Game ? Quote: Hey ! Look what I have: Dark Blood intelligence resistance plating !!! woot ! you guys fly with 3-4 diff corps, in the area?? or am i missing something. rofl and we fight you now just with bkft, noone else, and have been.
Muhaar Gemeinian Armee der Finsternis	Posted - 2007.06.04 16:56:00 - [67] Originally by: Kailiao and we fight you now just with bkft, noone else, and have been. Originally by: Karlemgne Regardless, we all sat on the gate. A mixed gang of Goonies, Black Fleet, and NovaKane. There were probably 13 tp 15 of us in mixed ships. No further questions. Armee der Finsternis rekrutiert
Wesley Baird Ever Flow FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.04 17:03:00 - [68] Originally by: darthimus your quite ******** really arent you - mean corp has never moon mined Its ok to admit you are all old and comfy in Kat, getting your carebear on; notice you didnt deny the plex running, you older players are probably sick of the excitement of combat, I hear it happens. Especially when trying to buy another carrier or dread...its all good! No use putting your hardwires on the line for a few minutes of action...gotta keep the big picture in mind. I applaud you for thinking big...never know when those cap ships might come in handy in low sec! I must have a bad scanner on my ship, I see lots of moon mining equipemt in Kat, need to get my scanner fixed I guess... I was very surprised to see a few MEAN members not being outlaws, WTF?! Back in the day weren't you all hard core outlaws tearing up low-sec killing everything in your path...now you have guys who don't blink red!?!
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.04 18:31:00 - [69] Edited by: Karlemgne on 04/06/2007 18:31:23 Originally by: Muhaar Gemeinian Originally by: Karlemgne Establishing that ADF WAS, in fact, "in the area," and apparently engaging us while flying with M34N. If you had actually read what i was saying you would have noticed, that i was referring to the other killmail which dates back to mid january. Also i have no idea what that screenshot is supposed to prove. I can't find any link to ADF on it. Back on topic, i find it amusing how you turn from an 'apology' to flaming Voodoo for getting podded by your camp in 2 pages. Bravo! Not flaming anyone, just pointing out why we did what we did. Mean/Allies (YOU) started flaming. I've remained resolute. What we did was not honorable, and is not typical of our corp. We did what we did as a reprisal for something that happened a few month ago. We are even on that count now, case closed. It is M34N corp, which we've seen surprising little of, that turned this thread into a smackfest. As for the screenshot... that was what Lord Vandan posted in local after he ejected from his Sleipner. It is a screenie of M34N corp Archons. Its purpose here is, obviously, to raise the question: if ADF and M34N corp aren't friends, why do ADF pilots post screenshots of M34N Carriers when their smacktalk in local is brought to end by them ejecting from a command ship? -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.04 18:39:00 - [70] Edited by: Karlemgne on 04/06/2007 18:41:06 Originally by: darthimus Ok lets just establish something Since you guys left Heimetar - Apart from one small op up north where we came to help you out(you can dress it up all you like thats what we did) along with Flashman and RA- we have never been Blue with you guys in the 7 months i have been in M34N corp - and the only time we have been negotiating with people in that manner was for that instance- now if you lost a ship in heimetar whilst Laneth achmetha etc were negotiating thats just the luck of the draw(perhaps the rest of our corp werent aware of the negotiations this is just a matter of timeframes- we would not send out a mail saying dont shoot a corp as we are negotiating standings to them untill its agreed its pointless and causes confusion the guys on that km probably had no knowledge of what was going on )this does not warrant breaking 1 vs 1 rules aqnd therefore you have let your corp down badly. I was aware- i was sat up north with RA and Flashman waiting to get it on - on your behalf I havent seen voodoo complaining about his Loss to someone who is blue because he didnt the fact is here you asked for a one vs one this is a different matter as that is agreement between two individuals and you are the people who have decided to bring this to the attention of the EVE Forum- i ask what is the point we are not set Blue to you so why would we give a flying fig however thank you for publiscising the dishonour amongst your members and that fact that you deliberated over it. Now whilst heimetar is the subject of your discussions leave your nice rule of thumb alliance behind and come back and get it on Thats an absolute lie. We did ask you guys to come up north on an OP with us, because we respected you as pilots. You came, and you were blue to us. The funny thing is you lost a single ship to Star Fraction and Black Rabbits, and ran back to Heimatar, but that isn't here nor there. We moved out to 0.0 and trickled into Heimatar. You were blue. You were blue when we ganked a freighter piloted by someone in Bagahie's old corp. You then asked us to make them blue because you were blue with both of us. We refused (do to issues we've had in the past with Bagahie.) Then we ceased being blue. Shortly after, we entered negotiations with M34N corp for a NAP. The issue was put to vote, supposedly, and we were told that you would not shoot until the vote was taken. Even given that, had we been engaged at a belt, or at a gate, we would have let it go, as we weren't showing blue yet--no bid deal. The issue was that you went out of your way, while negotiationing for a standings set, to engage us. Not only did you massively blob us, but you used scanprobes to find us, while one of the victims of your dishonesty was in a friendly CONVO with a M34N member. So do your best, try and re-write history, that's fine. In all honesty you and I both know what is what, and we are now even. Your empty rhetoric is just that--empty. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Dionisius Gallente LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL	Posted - 2007.06.04 18:40:00 - [71] Originally by: T'Renn Edited by: T''Renn on 03/06/2007 03:31:40 Unbelievable. I've been in m34n what - three days? Even if I were still in CRSQ or VHI and I saw this thread, though, I would say the same thing - you have sold out. I used to like Black Fleet - I even thought about joining Black Fleet or Red Navy Faction at one time long ago when we first met. Now, though, seeing the lows that you guys will stoop to in order to kill Voodoo... it makes me sad. There's a right way to do this and there's the wrong way. Everyone worth a fart here knows that and I thought you did too. It's a shame you sold out the integrity of yourself and your corp for a single kill. You definitely lost any respect I once had for you, and posting about it here doesn't make it better and doesn't make you "even" with us as much as you want to justify your disgusting actions. Utterly pathetic. Stop being an hypocrite you'd do the same thing if you could. No one escapes this, even carebears can show their claws if given the proper chance so don't come in here with those false morals and false sense of disgust. Ur pirates you'd do the exact same thing or worst, its eye for an eye out there. _______________________ What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.04 18:48:00 - [72] Originally by: Davina Sienar ehhhm... LOL EVF ? kicked out of area and still not over it ? BKFT ? kicked out of area and only back cause in ally and u know u will be wd'd the same moment u leave it... (ahh and still not over it) BLAH yes,yes BKFT u are fighting on equal numbers.... where ? @ home with that EVE-Collectable Card Game ? Quote: Hey ! Look what I have: Dark Blood intelligence resistance plating !!! woot ! This doesn't even make sense. I cannot even follow you, in all honesty. Black Fleet flys occasionally with NovaKane, a two or three man corp. M34N flys with ADF and FFAT, yet you still lose. Weird. I only mention this because I think you are accusing us of flying in mixed gangs or something, again, I'm not sure. Then there is the whole "kicked you out" crap. When you came to Heimatar we were already half in Placid. I'm not sure how you can claim to have "kicked us" out of Heimatar when we were in the process of moving anyway. But all this is pointless. The purpose of this thread was to explain to you all why we did what we did. Of course you don't like it. Nobody likes their come'upins. We're even, and we will not violate a 1v1 with you in the future. Case closed. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
T'Renn Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.06.04 20:20:00 - [73] Originally by: Dionisius Stop being an hypocrite you'd do the same thing if you could. 1. No, I would never dishonor a 1v1 if I said I'd do one. I never have and I never will (especially since I don't even do them anymore.) 2. If I get to be "an hypocrite" could you do me a favor and become an hero? Thanks. --
Destr0math Tritanium Workers Union	Posted - 2007.06.04 20:31:00 - [74] i wanna apologize too, sorry ---- Today is CATURDAY
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:24:00 - [75] Originally by: T'Renn Originally by: Dionisius Stop being an hypocrite you'd do the same thing if you could. 1. No, I would never dishonor a 1v1 if I said I'd do one. I never have and I never will (especially since I don't even do them anymore.) 2. If I get to be "an hypocrite" could you do me a favor and become an hero? Thanks. You may not be a hypocrite, but your corporation is especially getting all sore about this issue. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Naru Narussegawa Veto. Academy Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:28:00 - [76] I haven't read half of these posts but I'm going to comment anyway. Rabble Rabble Rabble!:D
T'Renn Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.05 05:22:00 - [77] Originally by: Karlemgne You may not be a hypocrite, but your corporation is especially getting all sore about this issue. Nah my new corpmates at CP can't even read and they're all too busy being scared I'm going to kill them to care about this. :) --
Feral Karkassia Minmatar Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.06.05 06:17:00 - [78] YEAH! Great to see we're still hated. I see what this is all about now! Everflow got kicked outta Kat and is posting about the undock button? Black Fleet, who has spent most of the last two months silently sitting in Gusandall dock, is posting an "apology" about killing a member of m34n dishonorably, I suppose to forestall the cries (that wouldn't come, b/c we don't give a rat's furry rump) of foul play... That and they're giving themselves some publicity. What's that saying about "no such thing as bad publicity"? Despite the timelines, Ach-posted CHAT LOGS/KILL MAIL, and the... ya know what? Who cares. We're hated, I can see why, and it's good to know it. Wanna know why? Voodoo didn't care about losing a ship. Nobody mentions you guys in Corp chat, except to say "black fleet in gus again--just docked, as USUAL. Heading to X stargate now". Yet you very obviously have a lot of m34n on your mind. Making claims that we've "gone carebear," when you're known as dockers and forum *****s? Btw--"Get your stories straight or shut your filthy mouth!" is a bit more of a PERSONAL insult don'tcha think? I'd leave those out if I were you. They really don't help your case and they don't help to solve this issue, which after seeing the proof very clearly makes you all look foolish. This thread makes me happy.
Ryoka Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.05 13:26:00 - [79] Originally by: Kailiao Edited by: Kailiao on 04/06/2007 16:12:45 Who the hell is Triumvirate? never herd of you guys, cept on the forums, hmm, we ran? i doupt it. And your fleet, bring em in, more loot for us. we need a challenge, kinda boreing lately, oh and bring faction mods please. And btw, we fight out-numberd, where a small corp, we don't need a massive alliance or 40 ships to win fights. You fight out numbered? since when I come down and visit often and i've yet to see or hear of you guys fight out numbered or with slightly more than the enemy brings I come down from 0.0 just for ****s and giggles really, nothing here aprt from friends and if you girls think you can cut it where we are or for that matter where your alliance is then i wonder what kind of players you have run along karlemgne and stick to your "we fight out numbered and odds against us" or the "were good pvpers"
Renotz Gallente Fatalix Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.05 13:51:00 - [80] I swear CCP should charge $14.95 for forums access and let us play the game for free since everyone seems to spend their time on here so much. After reading all of these posts I say wardec each other and end this. 3 pages of we blobbed you cuz you pwnd us in a ss is ********. There was obviously a communication break down amongst corps and revenge from an earlier loss took precedence over everything. I would think that if you were sought out in a ss and killed that would tell me you are not "blue" to that corp, so what is all the fuss about? Set them red and move on ffs. The who is Triumvirate comment is classic.. You will know who they are when they show up at your door and you are all in pods. They are one of the more respected alliances in the game. I was popped by them a few months back and it was fun. My poor little Enyo and like 5 of them, I had no chance but was i upset? No, its part of the game. Just like being blobbed in a ss, game mechanics people.
John Dean The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.05 15:48:00 - [81] Originally by: darthimus Ok lets just establish something Since you guys left Heimetar - Apart from one small op up north where we came to help you out(you can dress it up all you like thats what we did) along with Flashman and RA- we have never been Blue with you guys in the 7 months i have been in M34N corp - and the only time we have been negotiating with people in that manner was for that instance- now if you lost a ship in heimetar whilst Laneth achmetha etc were negotiating thats just the luck of the draw(perhaps the rest of our corp werent aware of the negotiations this is just a matter of timeframes- we would not send out a mail saying dont shoot a corp as we are negotiating standings to them untill its agreed its pointless and causes confusion the guys on that km probably had no knowledge of what was going on )this does not warrant breaking 1 vs 1 rules aqnd therefore you have let your corp down badly. I was aware- i was sat up north with RA and Flashman waiting to get it on - on your behalf I havent seen voodoo complaining about his Loss to someone who is blue because he didnt the fact is here you asked for a one vs one this is a different matter as that is agreement between two individuals and you are the people who have decided to bring this to the attention of the EVE Forum- i ask what is the point we are not set Blue to you so why would we give a flying fig however thank you for publiscising the dishonour amongst your members and that fact that you deliberated over it. Now whilst heimetar is the subject of your discussions leave your nice rule of thumb alliance behind and come back and get it on Well Darthimus you are a dumbss and were not in the convo with me and Achmetha. I, however, was keeping my mates updated on ventrillo while we were talking. Just ask Karl, Kailiao, Krystal Divine, Aos Brendan, Merv1, they were all online at that moment. Apart from the incident to the north where we approached you guys for assistance, that was the only other time we attempted blue standings with your corp. I never said we were actually "blue" during this incident, only that we were "negotiating" standings. Once again, Mean Corp, GET YOUR STORIES STRAIGHT!!!! ---------------------------------------------- THE BLACK FLEET* Killing the galaxy one ship at a time.
Ryoka Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.05 16:28:00 - [82]
Proculus	Posted - 2007.06.05 20:22:00 - [83] Edited by: Proculus on 05/06/2007 20:21:04 hey Black Fleet
Lord Quad Ever Flow FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.05 21:30:00 - [84] Originally by: Feral Karkassia YEAH! Great to see we're still hated. I see what this is all about now! Surprise isn't it?! How many non-outlaws do you have now?? I saw two mean corp the other day...didn't even occur to me they were mean until I checked their bio's as they weren't flashing red...didn't even try to lock me, or target me, or smack...just passed like three ships in the night...all friendly like... Times have changed I guess...where did all the badboys go?
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.05 22:02:00 - [85] Originally by: Ryoka Originally by: Kailiao Edited by: Kailiao on 04/06/2007 16:12:45 Who the hell is Triumvirate? never herd of you guys, cept on the forums, hmm, we ran? i doupt it. And your fleet, bring em in, more loot for us. we need a challenge, kinda boreing lately, oh and bring faction mods please. And btw, we fight out-numberd, where a small corp, we don't need a massive alliance or 40 ships to win fights. You fight out numbered? since when I come down and visit often and i've yet to see or hear of you guys fight out numbered or with slightly more than the enemy brings I come down from 0.0 just for ***s and giggles really, nothing here aprt from friends and if you girls think you can cut it where we are or for that matter where your alliance is then i wonder what kind of players you have run along karlemgne and stick to your "we fight out numbered and odds against us" or the "were good pvpers" I have no idea who Triumveret is, just so you know, but apparently you have negative standing to us... Alliances ftl. Anyway, I will let our killboards speak for themselves. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.*
Muhaar Gemeinian Armee der Finsternis	Posted - 2007.06.06 01:05:00 - [86] Originally by: Karlemgne Anyway, I will let our killboards speak for themselves. Those where you don't post your losses properly? Armee der Finsternis rekrutiert
Zenobite The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.06 01:58:00 - [87] Edited by: Zenobite on 06/06/2007 01:58:46 Edited by: Zenobite on 06/06/2007 01:58:33
John Dean The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.06 03:40:00 - [88] LMFAO @ Zenobite's post.... ---------------------------------------------- THE BLACK FLEET Killing the galaxy one ship at a time.
John Dean The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.06 03:55:00 - [89] Man, I was in the bathroom taking a dump just now and had a thought about mean corp. You guys remind me of the turds that sink to the bottom instead of float! ---------------------------------------------- THE BLACK FLEET Killing the galaxy one ship at a time.
John Dean The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.06 03:58:00 - [90] Edited by: John Dean on 06/06/2007 03:57:45 Oh ya, for your viewing pleasure i have another thread on here that you might find more interesting than this smack fest. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=532120 ENJOY!!!! ---------------------------------------------- THE BLACK FLEET Killing the galaxy one ship at a time.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.06 05:13:00 - [91] Originally by: Muhaar Gemeinian Originally by: Karlemgne Anyway, I will let our killboards speak for themselves. Those where you don't post your losses properly? That, Sir, is a complete fabrication. We do post our losses, always. M34N corp, in fact, does not post there losses. I seem to have a Scorp kill mail that hasn't made it to their killboards yet... over a week later. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Muhaar Gemeinian Armee der Finsternis	Posted - 2007.06.06 11:51:00 - [92] I'm usually not someone pointing at killboards but you obviously asked for it. For your convenience.. Compare this to this. Armee der Finsternis rekrutiert
The Djego	Posted - 2007.06.06 13:06:00 - [93] Now I know why you sitting in Stations all day. You are to bussy to smack in Forums to undock and fight.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.06 15:35:00 - [94] Originally by: Muhaar Gemeinian I'm usually not someone pointing at killboards but you obviously asked for it. For your convenience.. Compare this to this. Did you cross reference the alliance Kill Boards? Did you take into account kills made before we started using this killboard. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Muhaar Gemeinian Armee der Finsternis	Posted - 2007.06.06 16:40:00 - [95] Originally by: Karlemgne Did you cross reference the alliance Kill Boards? Did you take into account kills made before we started using this killboard. Yes. Armee der Finsternis rekrutiert
MISS NAUGHTY Minmatar Lasleinur Production	Posted - 2007.06.06 16:45:00 - [96] bla bla bla karl your a c@nt , bf are shi^ its the members like you that bring that once respectable corp down . so you will have plenty of time to read forums as your normally always hiding in the station . think i only ever see you undock when its about 8v1 ooo and the time you moaned about me :P
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.06 17:07:00 - [97] Originally by: Muhaar Gemeinian Originally by: Karlemgne Did you cross reference the alliance Kill Boards? Did you take into account kills made before we started using this killboard. Yes. Oh, and one more thing. Look very closely. You'll notice that you're corp has not posted all of their loss mails. Glass houses and stones don't go together well. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.06 17:14:00 - [98] Originally by: MISS NAUGHTY bla bla bla karl your a c@nt , bf are shi^ its the members like you that bring that once respectable corp down . so you will have plenty of time to read forums as your normally always hiding in the station . think i only ever see you undock when its about 8v1 ooo and the time you moaned about me :P Hey, Miss Naughty, I'm glad to see you freely admit that you did violate that 1v1. Oh how steadfastly you denied it when I called you on it. Do you see the difference between me and you now? I freely admit to violating a 1v1, and gave a reason why I did it. You denied it up and down (when YOU violated a 1v1), and the only reason ever given (which was a tacit admition anyway) was that I was using drones (in a Vexor.) Its funny that you admit to violating a 1v1 now that it suites you, or so you think, in your effort to "smack." But, as we've learned before, I deliver the verbal pownage upon you, and you run and hide. Speaking of which, I'd be more than happy to gank you... if you ever left high sec. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
John Dean The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 00:20:00 - [99] Originally by: MISS NAUGHTY bla bla bla karl your a c@nt , bf are shi^ its the members like you that bring that once respectable corp down . so you will have plenty of time to read forums as your normally always hiding in the station . think i only ever see you undock when its about 8v1 ooo and the time you moaned about me :P I find it funny that Miss Naughty even bothered to show its face in this post, seeing as how it only talks in local when it is running from gate to gate from point A (high sec) to point B (high sec). Good one Ms. N!!! ---------------------------------------------- THE BLACK FLEET Killing the galaxy one ship at a time.
Slarti The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre	Posted - 2007.06.07 12:44:00 - [100] 1v1's are well risky especially between corps with a bit of history, sorry you got ganked T but never mind.... BTW Dean.....the alliance spamming incident still makes me smile www.vogon.homestead.com
Maniva Lakona	Posted - 2007.06.07 13:00:00 - [101] I'd 1 v 1 any of you pussies! Yarr and all that jazz!
Stryker Vanguard	Posted - 2007.06.07 13:59:00 - [102] Edited by: Stryker Vanguard on 07/06/2007 13:58:26 Originally by: Maniva Lakona I'd 1 v 1 any of you pussies! Yarr and all that jazz! But blackfleet break 1 v 1s, as they have themselves freely admitted. They seem to believe that breaking a 1v1 is no big deal at all. They are nothing but scoundrelous honorless station-hugging blobbers.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 15:16:00 - [103] Originally by: Stryker Vanguard Edited by: Stryker Vanguard on 07/06/2007 13:58:26 Originally by: Maniva Lakona I'd 1 v 1 any of you pussies! Yarr and all that jazz! But blackfleet break 1 v 1s, as they have themselves freely admitted. They seem to believe that breaking a 1v1 is no big deal at all. They are nothing but scoundrelous honorless station-hugging blobbers. Haha... if you ever fought with us, or against us, you'd know that is the farthest thing from the truth. Cheers, -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Delt4	Posted - 2007.06.21 12:48:00 - [104] -.- there is just one i can say LOL tbf you guys are all the day docked on station... you do nothing.. and you **** on us... but there is a video where i lol you guys hahahaha looks good how your ships make blubb http://rapidshare.com/files/37721480/Ohne_Titel.rar
Faekurias Caldari Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.06.21 15:40:00 - [105] Originally by: Kulmid never start a land war in Asia... Why not? The ladies man. MY sign was wrongfully hijacked!:( Seriously, give back emokitteh. :< Oh mai GOD!
darthimus	Posted - 2007.06.30 09:27:00 - [106] Edited by: darthimus on 30/06/2007 09:30:40 So been a while since i bothered to check this thread and i feel the need for revisiting- My honesty is now being questioned - i report the facts as i see it and know it at the time. further facts Since this stupid thread was posted bollack fleet has split since we war decced them apparently due to inrternal issues (maybe something to do with the eve thread psoted) - and now have formed a new corp yet still stay in the area(they have in fact called in the use of other corps in there battles)this means we would have to pay extra to war dec them again(yes well get the chesnut about them being all outlaw all ready etc)but thats how we like to do things Sec status doesnt mean your bad to the bone and for the nice everflow people mean corp has been running a pos ouit in 0-0 purely for sec status reasons- leading to maybe us doing other things in the game. but as you guys dont see much further than your rectum passages you wouldnt realise that And J.D i enjoyed popping your raven the other night DUMBASS

Herbert Charles	Posted - 2007.06.30 11:27:00 - [107] This one has gone down in flames.


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