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Ocularis
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:15:00 -
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I guess most of you wont know me, im not as much a forum warrior as some people here, but to get to the point...
So who shouldnĘt throw stones? Nxt Level Alliance Members.
Why? Well, IĘm referring to a post found on a members blog (VIEW HERE).
And I quote;
Originally by: "Jangizal" Just a few weeks ago, our alliance took out a pos that was owned by the 'Refuge of the Damned' corp. It's crazy that they had took it among themselves that it was okay to set up a station in NxT LeveL space. They apparently also thought is was a smart idea to put up another pos after we eliminated their first, which they did. NxT LeveL took out the new tower within a week. Just after the second pos was taken out, looted, etc, ROTD war-dec'd the entire 250 man alliance. Keep in mind, this corp only has 15 members. The kicker: they're all experienced pvp pilots in empire space (for some reason) and they tend to fly hac's, command ships, and battleships. I'm ready for some fun. Not in empire.
Please note that June 12th will be a big day. Prepare for some yummy stuff come Tuesday. Peas, Jang
Ok, lets address some of the points taken up here as I think its clear the correct details are not being passed to their members.
1)You didnĘt take the large pos out right away ū your first attempt you fled with the POS at 92% shields as your alliance didnĘt have the firepower to take it out.
2)A week later you attacked a small POS we already had in 5ZXX that was used as a safespot. It had IIRC 8 guns on it and an empty corp hangerą good job. It was in fact the small POS you took out first, not the large. After this we wardec'd your feeder/alt corps in empire and finished that campaign 48-0 to us.
3)A few weeks later, you hired MOA to put the large POS into reinforcement mode for you. You then popped it once it came out of reinforcement (even I could have done that alone in 1 dread). We received a full refund for the POS and the ships, so nothing lost.
4)The space you say was yours was not claimed by your alliance, so IĘm not sure what you think youĘre talking about there.
5)Yes, we have war dec'd your 250 member alliance ū but we have never had 15 members EVER in the corpą so thanks for making us sound bigger than we are, but it makes these facts even more sweeter that we are smaller than you state. You may have 30 times more players than us, but that doesn't mean 30 times better pilots than us.
6)The war ū you made it mutual, then retracted itą not sure why? As for the figures, well I wont post links to battleclinic etc but 40 kills so far with no lossesą hmm (would be more, but the "WCS Battleship" is back in demand it seems ).
While I donĘt normally post on forums with this kind of info (I prefer to do battle in space), I think its only fair to reply to Nxt LeveLĘs members post and clear this up.
So in summary, we may be a smaller corp in numbers, but what we lack in cannon fodder, we make up for in skilled fighters. (and yes, if the MC are looking for new pilots, give me a shout )
Ocularis
P.S. No flames please, ive worded the post so not to flame anyone but to correct the untrue information stated in the blog that I know is being passed around the members of the alliance.
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DeltaMav
Omen Incorporated Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:24:00 -
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\o/
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Jtbenns
Gallente QUANT Corp. Southern Connection
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:35:00 -
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good work.  --------------------------------- RWREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Backdoor Bandit
Minmatar Gay Rights League
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:43:00 -
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/Backdoor Bandit grabs the popcorn. -----------
Post with your main or STFU! |

Camael Kuro
Snow Flake Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:49:00 -
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Am I getting this right? Someone actually refers to Pure Blind as 'their space'? 
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Camael Kuro Am I getting this right? Someone actually refers to Pure Blind as 'their space'? 
  
So true 
--23 Member--
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BobFromMarketing
Amarr H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.03 19:14:00 -
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o.0 People have xangas and livejournals about Eve?!
What the hell is wrong with you people?
Bravo to Refuge, keep the pain coming.
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Klassac
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.03 19:16:00 -
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1 WCS is understandable 6 is a crime.....
To the plank u go 
Say No to WCS!!
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
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Posted - 2007.06.03 21:05:00 -
[9]
people in glass houses s-s-s-ssink ships
Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug |

Khatred
Fluffy Mungoose Guinea Pigs
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Posted - 2007.06.03 23:38:00 -
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Next Level Alliance is fluffy!
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Tomas Ysidro
Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.03 23:42:00 -
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Pure Blind is and always will be a hellhole. Good hunting ROTD.
(I love your sig Bob)
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 01:35:00 -
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People in glass houses should make the most of the warm weather and plant some cherry tomatoes. Tasty, AND eco friendly. --------
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Asylum Seaker
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.04 01:56:00 -
[13]
Well some of us LIKE breaking our windows 
The universe is hostile, so impersonal, devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been.
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Taloic
Caldari Black Watch Regiment Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.04 02:39:00 -
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People in glass houses should always wear pants. 
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mr bighelmet
EnTech Pax Familia
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Posted - 2007.06.04 06:44:00 -
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Originally by: Taloic man in glass houses should always wear pants. 
fixed it for you  If i post something smart it represent my corp and alliance all other posts are my feeling/ideas only and do not represnt the rest |

Aut Nihil
Gallente Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.06.04 08:06:00 -
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NXT whom??
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BobFromMarketing
Amarr H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.04 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tomas Ysidro (I love your sig Bob)
Of course you do, it's from Marketing.
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Hithero Wolf
Caldari MASS
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Posted - 2007.06.04 10:02:00 -
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Its better to throw the stone when inside the glasshouse. That way it doesnt matter if you have poor aim
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Devian 666
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Aut Nihil NXT whom??
What ever happend to the cans saying that Storm Armarda own Pure Blind?  "If you had a gang of 81127 kestrals you could alpha strike Tranquility Server into a smoking hole in the ground" |

Liora Vahan
Gallente Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.06.04 12:27:00 -
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They developed a sense of irony dude. Storm Armada can't acutally Hold space. They're just sitting on it until someone else comes for it.
A legend in my own mind |

Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.05 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: BobFromMarketing
Originally by: Tomas Ysidro (I love your sig Bob)
Of course you do, it's from Marketing.
Where's the red stapler??? 
Blog |

Shai Faetal
Amarr Burn The Witch
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Posted - 2007.06.05 00:25:00 -
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whats their excuse ? Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
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Grimpak
Gallente Twisted Attitude Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.06.05 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Camael Kuro Am I getting this right? Someone actually refers to Pure Blind as 'their space'? 
I go out for 2 months, but I see that the jokes are still the same.
joy oh joy.
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Originally by: Tiuwaz for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons 
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Formosus Funus
Eternal Rising EternalRising
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Posted - 2007.06.05 12:41:00 -
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Man, since the major players of NE-XT left the corp/game after they created NxT it really went downwards big time . Oh well, cya soon guys in DP- heh.
/em0te ratted there for two weeks while NxT 'patrolling', they all hide in the POS they put up (where I simply ruined their first POS deployment by killing the Hauler in my Drake), camped me for an hour then to find out I was in a SS, they get finally a Cov Ops in and guess what, they deploy the Multispectral Probe . Oh well, was fun though, just a little shame to watch it go down after NE-XT's 'death'.
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc
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Posted - 2007.06.05 14:39:00 -
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People in glass houses have faded furniture.
Originally by: Rawne Karrde PVP in EvE is consentual, you agree to it when you login. If you don't like it you're in the wrong game.
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Gharthak
Gallente The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.05 14:54:00 -
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Well first up.. Jang shouldnt be posting comments/remarks like that he is not an official of the alliance he will be spoken to so I do apologize about that Ocularis. I like to keep clean forums and smack-free environments.. Unless its me doing the smack then I'm all for it.
And just to clear up a few things.. Point one - someone said it was a small tower so I didnt have enough dreads. Bad recon. Point 3.. We did not hire moa.. We were bored so we decided to pay you guys a visit your tower wasnt really of concern to us otherwise.
Oh and.. Please dont let the war dek end.. bring it back. :)
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Ocularis
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.05 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Gharthak Well first up.. Jang shouldnt be posting comments/remarks like that he is not an official of the alliance he will be spoken to so I do apologize about that Ocularis. I like to keep clean forums and smack-free environments.. Unless its me doing the smack then I'm all for it.
ok.
Originally by: Gharthak And just to clear up a few things.. Point one - someone said it was a small tower so I didnt have enough dreads. Bad recon. Point 3.. We did not hire moa.. We were bored so we decided to pay you guys a visit your tower wasnt really of concern to us otherwise.
I was told you had 3 dreads on standby for the first attack, but they never came. Then again, they were not there for the second attack either 
Im sorry, but you did pay MOA. They were there with you shooting to take it down on the saturday, and you then finished it on the sunday. MOA brought most of the firepower that day to take it down - i saw it myself, and that is why we also got a refund for the pos, as the contract was taken in error.
Originally by: Gharthak Oh and.. Please dont let the war dek end.. bring it back. :)
Oh it will be (vote is ready and waiting). If you wanna turn it mutual again then please do 
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Beef Hardslab
The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.05 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ocularis P.S. No flames please, ive worded the post so not to flame anyone but to correct the untrue information stated in the blog that I know is being passed around the members of the alliance.
Eh? First I've heard of it. You need better intel. What, were you bored, googling us?
I can understand... I got bored pretty quick in empire too. Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve:
Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
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Gharthak
Gallente The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.05 16:22:00 -
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put up another tower I'll bring more than 3 dreads if you wish to see the fireworks. You saw me drop 4 or 5 on the small. :)
anyways.... enough debate. oh and.. no moa wasnt hired.. I dont need to hire them we are close friends.
P.S. How did you get stuff back via petition? tower hit was a fair and clean kill.
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Ocularis
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.05 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Gharthak put up another tower I'll bring more than 3 dreads if you wish to see the fireworks. You saw me drop 4 or 5 on the small. :)
anyways.... enough debate. oh and.. no moa wasnt hired.. I dont need to hire them we are close friends.
Why, they POS we had served us for what we needed. Actually on the small I believe it was mostly made up of carriers iirc, but like you say, enough debate.
Originally by: Gharthak P.S. How did you get stuff back via petition? tower hit was a fair and clean kill.
Who said I got it back via petition? 
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Naurhir
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.05 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: Aut Nihil NXT whom??
What ever happend to the cans saying that Storm Armarda own Pure Blind? 
I think I anchored one of those cans lol. Good times.
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Christina Bamar
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.05 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tomas Ysidro Pure Blind is and always will be a hellhole.
Damn straight, we wouldn't have it any other way
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Klassac
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.05 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gharthak
Oh and.. Please dont let the war dek end.. bring it back. :)
Dont worry, this is just and administrative error....The ROTD Secetary is being spanked as we speak for this lapse in proffesionalism...
I take it from your comment you have managed to grow a pair.... yes
Congratulations on reaching puberty....Ill see you behind the bike sheds at last bell....ding ding
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Beef Hardslab
The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.05 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Klassac
Originally by: Gharthak
Oh and.. Please dont let the war dek end.. bring it back. :)
Dont worry, this is just and administrative error....The ROTD Secetary is being spanked as we speak for this lapse in proffesionalism...
I take it from your comment you have managed to grow a pair.... yes
Congratulations on reaching puberty....Ill see you behind the bike sheds at last bell....ding ding

You RotD guys can spout all you want, the facts are: you had POS, we blew up, you back in empire. Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve:
Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
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Klassac
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.05 17:41:00 -
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Edited by: Klassac on 05/06/2007 17:42:17
Originally by: Beef Hardslab
You RotD guys can spout all you want, the facts are: you had POS, Moa blew up, you back in empire killing us.[/quote
2/10 for factual information...Ive ammended your mistakes....Be more carefull in future i dont want u in detention and missing after school activities
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Beef Hardslab
The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.05 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Klassac
Originally by: Beef Hardslab
You RotD guys can spout all you want, the facts are: you had POS, Moa blew up, you back in empire killing us.[/quote
2/10 for factual imformation...Ive ammended your mistakes....Be more carefull in future i dont want u in detention and missing after school activities
If you doubt our ability to knock down POSes, by all means, put up some more. Whether we do it alone or invite some buddies and have a barbecue is immaterial.
In the future, I might recommend you at the very minimum spellcheck your flames before an attempt at wit. Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve:
Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
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Klassac
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.05 17:53:00 -
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Bah...My plan of geting detention with you for poor spelling has backfired 
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Ocularis
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.05 17:59:00 -
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Now now you guys, take it easy.
Anyone can blow up a POS (apparently) ... hay, we could do it. The difference is we would not have the support to lock down the system as well... thats a simple fact. You have more players to blob the gates... we dont doubt that. But thats not all what this game is about is it - shooting POS... man that would suck! 
We are also in empire for the war as a choice - whats the point in being at war if we get your blob to sit on a 0.0 gate with some bubbles for hours on end and smack each other in local... that would make the killboards look very bad on both sides, rather than just yours as they currently do.
Lets all just play nice now shall we... remember, it is a game 
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Agmar
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
people in glass houses s-s-s-ssink ships
Quoted for making me laugh out loud at work.
He Sokratesz... we need to buy you a proverb book or something. This mix and match has got to go....
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Jack Cannon
The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.05 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Christina Bamar
Originally by: Tomas Ysidro Pure Blind is and always will be a hellhole.
Damn straight, we wouldn't have it any other way
Only usefull reply in this whole thread!!!
Ok Just some facts assuming anyone cares.... This is the OFFICAL and LAST reply from nxt on the matter.
1. Our diplomats contacted your CEO to try to work a compromise. Your members chose war dispite his willingness to be reasonable about the situation and now you come and whine about it on the forums. You'll find I have no symathy for forum crybabies and no respect either.
2. You lied to our allies about the situation and tried to paint us as the agressors when you put up pos's and pirated our members in our territory. Our allies didn't buy it and they helped us knock over that tower of yours because they had nothing better to do that day and a few of our dread pilots were (oh noes they have a life?) out of town that weekend. We never paid them for anything. We hardly brought our whole capital fleet to bother with your one pos. Thanks for the free ships btw.. but setting up a domi with a half active half passive shield tank and pdu's so you can fit nos makes baby jesus cry... please think of the tiny mel gibson's...
3. Your war dec to my knowlage has not yeilded any kills other than some cyno ships and for your trouble you lost an arazu. If I'm wrong on this link me your killboards and I'll make sure the pilots in question are talked too since our killboards show a distressing lack of action with your 7 pilots I've ever seen logged on. When we tried to come all the way out to empire to look for you with 3-4 members just for fun you all logged. You guys ever want to have some fun and do some real pvp we require no wardecs to come on out to 0.0 and fight us (dispite your implications in the op you will find we don't blob). In the mean time enjoy the lag in jita for me. 
oh and the war dec thing... I was playing around with the different options but when I realised you didn't actually have to shell out money if it was mutual I promptly ajusted it. I wouldn't want you guys to be able to hide in empire for free now.
Jack Cannon Nxt Level
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Jack Cannon
The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.05 19:36:00 -
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sorry I couldn't resist... livejournal? I don't know if it's worse that our pilot posted there or that you were reading it...
Linkage
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Jack Cannon
The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.05 19:37:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Jack Cannon on 05/06/2007 19:36:40 double post please remove.
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Ocularis
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.05 19:53:00 -
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Only fair I respond to your points.
Originally by: Jack Cannon
1. Our diplomats contacted your CEO to try to work a compromise. Your members chose war dispite his willingness to be reasonable about the situation and now you come and whine about it on the forums. You'll find I have no symathy for forum crybabies and no respect either.
This is correct - you did contact me regarding the situation on iirc 3 seperate times. Once was in a teamspeak convo, 2 were by evemail. We didnt come to an agreement so we ended the talks each time. This was never in dispute. As for crying on the forums, the original post was simply clearing up the incorrect information posted - we are not having a whine, we frankly have nothing to whine about. Forums are hard to get tones of voice across, but I can assure you we are not crying (with laughter maybe )
Originally by: Jack Cannon
2. You lied to our allies about the situation and tried to paint us as the agressors when you put up pos's and pirated our members in our territory. Our allies didn't buy it and they helped us knock over that tower of yours because they had nothing better to do that day and a few of our dread pilots were (oh noes they have a life?) out of town that weekend. We never paid them for anything. We hardly brought our whole capital fleet to bother with your one pos. Thanks for the free ships btw.. but setting up a domi with a half active half passive shield tank and pdu's so you can fit nos makes baby jesus cry... please think of the tiny mel gibson's...
I dont think we lied to anyone about the situation. From what we heard, it was your side making up the stories (again, we had a giggle about it and moved along). Your welcome to the ships, like i said we had them all refunded. As for the setup, damn dont even start me on his "no fittings so use what i have in loot" setups he has for killing NPC's - I'll give him another slap for his comedy setup! 
Originally by: Jack Cannon
3. Your war dec to my knowlage has not yeilded any kills other than some cyno ships and for your trouble you lost an arazu. If I'm wrong on this link me your killboards and I'll make sure the pilots in question are talked too since our killboards show a distressing lack of action with your 7 pilots I've ever seen logged on. When we tried to come all the way out to empire to look for you with 3-4 members just for fun you all logged. You guys ever want to have some fun and do some real pvp we require no wardecs to come on out to 0.0 and fight us (dispite your implications in the op you will find we don't blob). In the mean time enjoy the lag in jita for me. 
I cant link to battleclinic.com as its against the forum rules, but if you go there and search for our corp and look at the kills, you will see the ones that are clearly missing off your killboard. In fact, your diplomat who posted here earlier was killed hauling tech 2 loot in a frig... so if he didnt post his loss, thats a bad sign right away. I dont believe you killed an arazu of ours - i know you set some fighters on one but it wasnt killed. Send me the killmail if you have it and I'll get it sorted. Whats that saying... proof or .... 
Originally by: Jack Cannon
oh and the war dec thing... I was playing around with the different options but when I realised you didn't actually have to shell out money if it was mutual I promptly ajusted it. I wouldn't want you guys to be able to hide in empire for free now.
Us hide... again, i wont post the screenshots I have, but the 6 stab apoc, destroyers, ravens, drakes and logging off to save pods that happens... we are not the ones hiding. Your killboard is not the only thing hiding the facts from you. Hope you do give the pilots involved a slap for bad gameplay.
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Jack Cannon
The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.05 20:23:00 -
[44]
I know I said I wouldn't but there is only one good reason to have 6 stabs on an apoc... and yes it's a pvp fit... use your imagination.
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Klassac
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.05 20:47:00 -
[45]
This official response...is it from your Alliance Diplomat/Leader or the Corp Clown?
I ask this as it seems recently in last cpl months your alliance has had its main corps leave 1 by 1....Its now hard to understand who is leading yourselves..if anyone
You left us to kill your alts/feeder corps with impunity..they quitting corps and some even joing yourselves untill we ceased hostilities...We had hoped for a free war dec from yourselves..none came..u left them to die
No war dec...ok we pay ourselves..this we did....same old story as before, with added icing of stabs and log offs to save pods...
Im not wasting any more words with your naivety at best, stupidity/lies at worst. I ahve a large supply of void in station, with that ill do my talking
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Proconsul Para
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.05 20:58:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Camael Kuro Am I getting this right? Someone actually refers to Pure Blind as 'their space'? 
  
So true 
Well... according to CAOD it will be BoB space, so meh  
Originally by: hired goon IRON beat BoB in the majority of the fleet battles the two were involved in.
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Aindrias
Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.06.05 20:59:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Taloic People in glass houses should always wear pants. 
It's funny cuz it's true...
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Klassac
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.05 21:08:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Aindrias
Originally by: Taloic People in glass houses should always wear pants. 
It's funny cuz it's true...
It made me chuckle to....
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BluOrange
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.06 03:44:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Gharthak Well first up.. Jang shouldnt be posting comments/remarks like that he is not an official of the alliance he will be spoken to so I do apologize about that Ocularis. I like to keep clean forums and smack-free environments.. Unless its me doing the smack then I'm all for it.
You might want to have a word to some of your other pilots then.
Excuse me while I go back to watching and laughing 
Recruitment FAQ |

Gharthak
Gallente The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.06 07:08:00 -
[50]
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Aut Nihil
Gallente Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.06.06 10:20:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Liora Vahan They developed a sense of irony dude. Storm Armada can't acutally Hold space. They're just sitting on it until someone else comes for it.
We're up in Deklein in the A21H-Z constelation, feel free to drop in ... and oh yea, i hope you bring more than 2 ppl.
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jaybo34
Caldari The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.06 10:34:00 -
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This is funny , dude we don't have any feeder corps that aren't in the alliance. There has been times corps came and went as in any alliance, these things happen from time to time.
But honestly if call killing members who are shopping in empire pvp thats just funny.
sry jack but these people just don't know or are not willing to relay real facts. so I had to post.
Seriously send me some kill mails on these supposed ''feeder corps'' if I'm wrong I'll retract this statement .
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Ocularis
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.06 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: jaybo34 Edited by: jaybo34 on 06/06/2007 10:54:32 ok, i've been checking battle clinic it seems u do have quite a few kills there.
Although most are new edan freelancer kills, though that was when they first joined nxt and were not living in 0.0 yet. killing people when they are shopping may add to ur kill boards , but it isn't a real kill in my opinion, oh I forgot u can kill people mining also ''bravo''. lol come to pure blind and fight us properly.
This is just my opinion and may not reflect the thoughts of my leaders.
Yes we do have a few kills there against you guys... just like we said. 
So if you saw a target flying around in a hauler/mining barge you would say "hold on lads, lets not kill him"? I know thats not true as the first kill between us was a few of you guys popping a hauler of ours.
It doesnt matter if someone is mining, mission running, flying about, whatever... if they are a war target then they are fair game. It's the members of your corps that are doing dumb things in empire that make you guys look bad (trying to mine during a war... thats some smart people you recruit there).
The majority of those kills are non-hauler/miners but i see you didnt highlight that. We have only killed 2 indys and 2 barges, so not sure why you decided to point that out to us.
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Ammath
The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.06 22:50:00 -
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Ooooh empire pirating such skill hitting people who are moving around in mission/shopping fitted ships... you are so l33t its scary.
I'll buy some more Caracals for you to kill, ill just eject from them and leave them on the Jita pipe so you can kill them empty and buff up your KBs.
Bring your boys and come fight our combat pilots and ships... any 15 man gang is a match for anything but blob warfare, which we really don't do so stop claiming we are.
You don't even need 50m for the wardec... you just need to not be lame.
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Avialle
Cassiopeia Ent.
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Posted - 2007.06.07 05:49:00 -
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You obviously feel you are not going to lose anything by fighting Refuge so why don't you bring you're PVP ships down to empire. Think about it, they have paid for you to come down and destroy some ships in Empire, take advantage of that, rather than holing up in 0.0. Prove to everyone that you can do more than destroy POS's, cos at the moment you're simply making yourself look pathetic with every fact you insist on arguing. 
BTW, the only person who would fit a PVP Apoc with 6 WCS obviously isn't planning on doing any PVP. 
P.S before you flame, yes I was a member of Refuge. I've taken a break to help some mates earn some ISK. I want to make a point of NOT trying to hide this.
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Retseldog
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:44:00 -
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Hi Jaybo..
I liked reading of your Dream of having your first POS in 0.0 with your old corp S.H.I.E.L.D for which you were CEO. It was sweet and fluffy.
Its a shame u all split up and many members deciding rightly to quit the alliance they decided was a joke. How dreams rarely come true 
It was also a shame really u located it next to us and within 2 days of our killing and harrasing of u, u asked me personally for a 24 hr peace to withdraw. (convo stored)
I can only remember seeing you once in those days and then you were pulling out. The blobbing of 40+ Next to our POS system and yours never stopped us then or offered you any safety in reality and u fled back to JC under the guise of 'orders have changed'.. at least you were wise enougth to understand 23/7 protection by the blob wasnt a reality.
From your members own admissions you as an alliance lose ships so regular up there you are constantly having to come back to empire to make some isk!...Well not any more
We have already tickled you in pure Blind, that was the foreplay...A bit of heavy petting now to get the juices flowing and the emotions up and on to the great finale...Have to warn u though we got great stamina and u going to be in for a long long ride.
By the way....Anyone seen my bone i left in N-h?
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Retseldog
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.07 06:54:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Ammath
Bring your boys and come fight our combat pilots and ships... any 15 man gang is a match for anything but blob warfare, which we really don't do so stop claiming we are.
Your Intel is as always....wrong
15 man gang? As already stated we are much smaller than that...half the size at best, a quarter regular. And dont be so sexist, u are also getting killed by a girl!
Yourself Ammath,Jack Cannon and Garth*.* are all CEo/Co/Diplomat of this Alt corp Intermind. Which as for some reason with its 2 man operation joined Nxt. Your Bio makes me laugh though
If i was a member of your alliance id be VERY worried of your honesty. I alwasy knew you lot were cowards but writing this just proves you prefer others to do the dieing while yourselves stay hidden from view.
From Intermind Unlimited Cor Bio
'' No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.
Intermind Unlimited is now recruiting members. Minimum requirements are 2 million skillpoints. Seeking combat oriented pilots. We do PVP, Missions, ratting, complexes POS operations and more. proud members of NEC
CEO and Corporation Diplomat: Jack Cannon Co-CEO: Gharthak Recruiters and contacts = DARKSTAR13 / AMMATH / KITSUNE NINETAILS ''
Thats how u think of yourselves is it?
So so glad i not one of your grunts....Come the Revolution...
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Ocularis
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.07 07:31:00 -
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This thread makes me laugh - you guys are too easy to wind up
And I thought members of your alliance were not going to post any more in the thread... bad people 
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jaybo34
Caldari The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.07 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Retseldog Hi Jaybo..
I liked reading of your Dream of having your first POS in 0.0 with your old corp S.H.I.E.L.D for which you were CEO. It was sweet and fluffy.
Its a shame u all split up and many members deciding rightly to quit the alliance they decided was a joke. How dreams rarely come true 
It was also a shame really u located it next to us and within 2 days of our killing and harrasing of u, u asked me personally for a 24 hr peace to withdraw. (convo stored)
I can only remember seeing you once in those days and then you were pulling out. The blobbing of 40+ Next to our POS system and yours never stopped us then or offered you any safety in reality and u fled back to JC under the guise of 'orders have changed'.. at least you were wise enougth to understand 23/7 protection by the blob wasnt a reality.
From your members own admissions you as an alliance lose ships so regular up there you are constantly having to come back to empire to make some isk!...Well not any more
We have already tickled you in pure Blind, that was the foreplay...A bit of heavy petting now to get the juices flowing and the emotions up and on to the great finale...Have to warn u though we got great stamina and u going to be in for a long long ride.
By the way....Anyone seen my bone i left in N-h?
lol u guys are funny. glad to see my disinformation worked .LOL
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Wormfood
The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.07 14:55:00 -
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Edited by: Wormfood on 07/06/2007 14:56:48 Interesting read so far, it's nice to see a working example of how even the best intended threads slowly digress into flame wars and insults.
Originally by: Retseldog From Intermind Unlimited Cor Bio
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
Just to clear this up for you, the above quote refers to 2 people from separate countries at war with each other, not 2 people from the same country trying to sacrifice their own, more stupid, countrymen for the victory. Hope this clarifies the meaning of the quote for you. Hope you don't feel too silly for that post now, sorry for stealing your thunder.
As you were... o7 *wanders off to get more beer*
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Ocularis
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.07 16:18:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Wormfood Interesting read so far, it's nice to see a working example of how even the best intended threads slowly digress into flame wars and insults.
So true But its a giggle none the less 
Originally by: Wormfood Hope you don't feel too silly for that post now, sorry for stealing your thunder.
Seriously, that was uncalled for - dog is now crying his eyes out and having a hissy fit over the shame that he must now carry with him until the end of days To make him feel better ive ordered he watch the Jeremy Kyle show on daytime TV just to prove there are in fact dumber people than him... then again, looking at some of the posts on this board clears that up a lot quicker 
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Retseldog
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.07 16:48:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Retseldog on 07/06/2007 16:48:08 Replying to forum posts straight from your dog bed before the morning walk hinders your perception!
However in the context i had read it, it fitted yourselves to the biscuit - Honestly it is a very fitting description of yourselves with an odd word changed from what i have see so far.
Apologies for getting the wrong end of the stick - But im sure u can easily see where the error on my part came from- No loyalty, honour or courage has been shown by yourselves up to now
And im not holding my breath that any will
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Beef Hardslab
The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.07 18:08:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Retseldog Apologies for getting the wrong end of the stick - But im sure u can easily see where the error on my part came from- No loyalty, honour or courage has been shown by yourselves up to now
And im not holding my breath that any will
Ahh yes, nothing says Loyalty, Honor and Courage like wardeccing a 0.0 alliance and then waiting to pounce in Jita.
You guys are a riot. I'd say I'll see you in space, but ya know, I just don't like Empire enough to make it worth looking for any of you.
Carry on though, maybe I'll actually notice we're in a war next time. Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve:
Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
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Ocularis
Refuge of the Damned
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Posted - 2007.06.07 19:04:00 -
[64]
Well then we wont see you in empire... shame. As you can tell we are proper gutted about that 
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Avialle
Cassiopeia Ent.
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Posted - 2007.06.07 19:05:00 -
[65]
Wow! I have to say, if I was in your alliance I'd be packing my bags now! To openly say that you have no intention of backing up or helping out your alliance members that are getting attacked in Empire.
Each man for himself, is that your motto?
So, the benefit of being a member of your alliance is.....?
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Wormfood
The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.08 00:17:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Wormfood on 08/06/2007 00:21:22
Originally by: Avialle To openly say that you have no intention of backing up or helping out your alliance members that are getting attacked in Empire.
I don't see the "openly" written statement you seem to be refering to. Could you please either point it out to me, or stop talking rubbish.
While i'm on the subject of correcting you. I would also like to address your previous comments.
Originally by: Avialle BTW, the only person who would fit a PVP Apoc with 6 WCS obviously isn't planning on doing any PVP.
Yes, there are many PvP set ups which can use WCS's, think outside the box and you may figure some out. Not everyone uses these forums to rant about their decent/fun set ups.
Originally by: Avialle Think about it, they have paid for you to come down and destroy some ships in Empire, take advantage of that, rather than holing up in 0.0. Prove to everyone that you can do more than destroy POS's, cos at the moment you're simply making yourself look pathetic with every fact you insist on arguing.
Why would we want to travel into empire in droves to shoot a (self confessed) small, semi-active, empire based, mostly carebear/mission running corporation? Sorry to burst your bubble, but you cannot truely believe that you are that much of a concern to us that just because you war dec'd us, we are going to come to you and fight on your home turf numerous jumps out of our territory? If we'd wanted to shoot at you for free, we wouldn't have booted you out of Pure Blind by popping your POS in the 1st place? Sorry, but we (well most of us) have more exciting things to do, and besides, we can have as many free fights as we want on our own doorstep. Plus, the very fact that you use the term "holing up in 0.0" is humourous, the reason people don't like empire is that it's boring, and there's very little to shoot at!
If you must flame, at least look into what you are flaming about.
As you were... o7 *staggers off to get even more beer*
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Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2007.06.08 07:16:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Sokratesz
people in glass houses s-s-s-ssink ships
as much as i hate to give an IAC props, i must.. that was an absolutely awesome movie. i had to stop reading the thread after this. thread won IMO.
People argue when their personal views are at odds
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Christina Bamar
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.08 07:45:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Christina Bamar on 08/06/2007 07:44:11 As much as I may hate to disagree with Nxt, it is a bit silly to criticize a 0.0 based organization for not fighting an empire war. We've been war dec'ed every now and then, we just stay in 0.0 doing our thing and ignore them. There's really little reason to bother going to empire just to fight people when they can just stay out in pure blind fighting us instead 
It's one thing to say their empire people should be more careful, but to say their 0.0 people should come to empire to fight you just because you decide to war dec them is pretty silly and more than a little arrogant.
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Boss BIG
Minmatar Bladerunners
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Posted - 2007.06.08 11:14:00 -
[69]
Well all I can say to this post is its quite funny to read.
Thanks for giving me a laugh on a Friday morning. I have had a crap day so far.
As for the remark about NxT Level hiring MOA I can not comment as we do not give out our employers details.
But good luck with your empire war, but y bother with the empire war when you can shoot for free in 0.0. And if your out numbered I am sure you can still find some targets up here. Agony like to fly stabbed ships with cloaks on. so u might need a bubble or 2.
And if your short of Isk come and rat but everybody knows that the rats in PB are crap.
Regards
Boss
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Cassiopeia Lyra
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Posted - 2007.06.11 22:17:00 -
[70]
"empire based, mostly carebear/mission running corporation?"
   
Now you see, that was funny!
We are still talking about ROTD, right? You suckers take the punishment as they dance like butterflies and sting like bees!!
And as always, please remember.
The Surgeon General would like to advise that being podded, may be hazardous for your health. 
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Talpa Iute
Murder-Death-Kill Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:06:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Wormfood .......
Originally by: Retseldog From Intermind Unlimited Cor Bio
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
Just to clear this up for you, the above quote refers to 2 people from separate countries at war with each other, not 2 people from the same country trying to sacrifice their own, more stupid, countrymen for the victory. Hope this clarifies the meaning of the quote for you. Hope you don't feel too silly for that post now, sorry for stealing your thunder.
As you were... o7 *wanders off to get more beer*
You my friend should lay off the beer and read that quote one more time before posting.
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Clamn8er
CaldaCorp Quantum Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.12 08:22:00 -
[72]
"empire based, mostly carebear/mission running corporation?"
   
You see that was funny!!
We are still talking about ROTD, right?
Just keep telling yourselves that, as they dance like butterflies and sting like bees!
And as always, please remember:
The Surgeon General would like to advise that being podded, may be hazardous for your health.  |
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