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Ehrine Ashbark
Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.06.04 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Hast actually, a desync bug happens if the client thinks it can warp out but the server know it cant, so that means that desync bug or not... He would have died.
Actually it can just be you being slightly different place on grid (which can still prevent warping). Thing is, if you desync you can no longer see which ships are where relavtive to you and your client things everything is out of range for you to retarget your drones. As a result you can't target the 'dictor, can't drop your own nos on an agressor to reclaim cap and can't drop your fighters/drones onto the BS that are bumping you - aka you can't change things so you can warp out.
Whether the desync changed things so the Mom was lost we'll never know. It almost certainly changed things so that less ships died in the attempt.
None of that detracts from what looks like a nicely planned trap.
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Khayman33
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.06.04 10:20:00 -
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Good job xDEATHX ;)
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Gloomrake Ono
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Hast actually, a desync bug happens if the client thinks it can warp out but the server know it cant, so that means that desync bug or not... He would have died.
Surely alot more of the tacklers would have died also? Enough to turn the tide on all the neuts? maybe not.
It would be nice to think, as implied by the OP, that this was about anything other than getting easier access to a 10/10.
Anyways well played RA and company.
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Hey You
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 10:36:00 -
[64]
good job
To fall in love and fall in debt To alcohol and cigarettes and Mary Jane To keep me insane and doing someone else's cocain |

Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
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Posted - 2007.06.04 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 04/06/2007 10:41:58
66th in a bob thread 
Nice writeup, but we still want to know what was in the can? Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug |

Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
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Posted - 2007.06.04 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Gloomrake Ono It would be nice to think, as implied by the OP, that this was about anything other than getting easier access to a 10/10.
:lol: you know it's because you're simple minded as this you lost the MS. Nice to see you in particular didn't even realize that after the kill.
good job RA+friends
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Xeliya
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.04 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Hast actually, a desync bug happens if the client thinks it can warp out but the server know it cant, so that means that desync bug or not... He would have died.
Not all that true as you cannot fight back when your client doesn't think you are still there. Thus the reason only 2 ships were killed (note: Motherships can ALWAYS fight back unlike Carriers). 20 Fighters with lv5 fighters would kill a BS with no tank in a matter of a few seconds and considering he would have 35km+ web and scram there would be no issue with someone taking your fighters for a joy ride. If he would have been able to fight back he may have killed enough of the Neut BS's to get his tank on and kill more and get out since there are not so many people bumping him.
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Homer Greyt
Academy of Decadence
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Posted - 2007.06.04 10:46:00 -
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Edited by: Homer Greyt on 04/06/2007 10:46:36 It seems that even if RA would have lost their stations, they would have kept their plexes. :)
Great job though, smacking BoB around is not something any other alliance can do easily.
Keep it up RA & Co! ________ Let's dance! |

darth solo
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.06.04 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Gloomrake Ono
Originally by: Hast actually, a desync bug happens if the client thinks it can warp out but the server know it cant, so that means that desync bug or not... He would have died.
Surely alot more of the tacklers would have died also? Enough to turn the tide on all the neuts? maybe not.
It would be nice to think, as implied by the OP, that this was about anything other than getting easier access to a 10/10.
Anyways well played RA and company.
well they did have 2 carriers and 1 MS, one of the carriers being a nid. so i imagine alot of remote repping. enough to keep all support alive against the fighters of one MS.
respect for the planning though, if it was me id never have even started it though, i would always be thinking that the target would have a emergency cyno. i dont even fly a carrier without a cyno guy ready to jump me out, never mind a ms.
So tisk tisk dbp, u deserved to die there. overconfidence is a weakness.
d solo.
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Gloomrake Ono
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: Gloomrake Ono It would be nice to think, as implied by the OP, that this was about anything other than getting easier access to a 10/10.
:lol: you know it's because you're simple minded as this you lost the MS. Nice to see you in particular didn't even realize that after the kill.
good job RA+friends
Whatever. They tried to do it to Tav and failed, retaliation resulted in success. Will they be there tomorrow? to be sure.
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:04:00 -
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Now that is a good write up. Simple, correct and as far as I can see without a hint of bias. And its high-5 for a long and well thought out plan that worked out nicely in the end.
Is there a good answer in regards to desynch issues somewhere btw? Since its very common for MS pilots for some reason it would be nice to see if CCP has an idea? Not saying this kill was to desynch/gremlins in the cargo hold, I'm just looking for info.
Cheers, Lowa
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Testicular Testes
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Moonlight Express No, no no. It's impossible to kill a MoM or a Titan. It can't be done. Explain CCP. It must have been a bug or a hex, because itÆs no possible to kill super capital unless they are logged off. Right?
Clearly, the future of EvE is to wait until pilots get bored and stop running cyno-out alts. Then is the time to strike.
If somebody can be sloppy enough to lose one, it's got to be balanced. After all, only genuine idiotproofing would ever deserve change.
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar Fist of the Empire FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:10:00 -
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IAL (in after lowa) Give us fraps now?? (canŠt belive lowa dident shout about this ) _______________________________________________ Beer, Eve and no shaved babes!!! is that oki then? My slogans always gets nerfed \o/ Oh a new one: Beer, eve and play neekid!! |

Vashi Dokumentu
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ace Frehley IAL (in after lowa) Give us fraps now?? (canŠt belive lowa dident shout about this )
I do have a fraps, actualy movie made, but it`s 450mb and eve doesnt want to load it up. Unless somebody can provide the hosting...
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Tempest Kane
Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:21:00 -
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Good write up, good execution, nice to have some mental competition, Just when you are starting to think this wouldnt get intreasting the russians pull a jack out of the box, im very impressed and i look forward to meeting xDeathx in combat again.
We have our work cut out for us, just how we like it.
Much respect, TK.
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ace Frehley IAL (in after lowa) Give us fraps now?? (canŠt belive lowa dident shout about this )
FRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPS!
Sorry, I'm tired this morning. 
/Lowa
What if the truth was something else? |

prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: kill0rbunny Nice Job people.
Seeing it took you months of work to plan such a kill without using spys or exploits, I consider moms are far too hard to kill.
The IAC mom that was killed by the LV cap fleet with ISS support (and intel) had a few hours preperation at most and was killed by a good old surprise attack. Nobody really needs uninformed comments... -- .sig apathy ftw |

CLEISTHENES2
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:28:00 -
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Desync or not, well excuted plan. Good work chaps.
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salty alt
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: salty alt on 04/06/2007 11:32:50 wrong char oops.
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Tarnag
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:31:00 -
[80]
Kudos to a well thought out and executed plan... and respect to Leonidas for humility in defeat. |

Glitch 10240
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:40:00 -
[81]
nice work, and good job on the patience and persistence in order to bring it down :) --------------------------------
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Cletus Graeme
Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:42:00 -
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Good job doesn't really cut it :) The morale boost provided by this is much needed in the North where things are going from bad to worse for the Coalition.
Very well done on planning and executing such a difficult kill. Patience, dedication, leadership, courage, teamwork. more than just words...
Achievements such as this require all of the above - qualities which no single alliance (BoB included) has a monopoly on.
So....citizens of the North - heed these words! Put aside your petty differences and arrogant pride.
Take heart, take up arms, raise your game and get out there to fight those worthy opponents who have come to take our space from us.
The time of reckoning has arrived so stand up to be counted. Do your duty or scurry back to empire where you belong.
No matter how big or small you may be (as this kill shows) you CAN make a difference!
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V0rador
Amarr Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:43:00 -
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Nice work Gene and RA.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.04 11:51:00 -
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Tht just proofs that if there exist a force capable of hurting BOB, that force is RA (_A_ being considered same thing due to the usual military cooperation).
So to all the doommongers, if you want to make soemthign about your future in eve that you fear so much Support RA. Everyone gains. BOB get a good fight, EVE keeps having more than 1 superpower.
Congrasts RAMy faith in you is unshakable.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |

Zhaine
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.04 12:03:00 -
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Congrats on a very special kill. Props for great planning and execution and props to the downed pilot for taking it like an adult  - - - - - - - - - -
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Pariah Eutrophius
Gallente Thundercats
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Posted - 2007.06.04 12:29:00 -
[86]
Great work Xdeath and RA. BOB will give credit where credit is due, and indeed credit is due and credit given.
GG chaps ______________________________________________ Morals are paintings on walls and scruples is money in Russia. aight! |

Narciss Sevar
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.04 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Pariah Eutrophius Great work Xdeath and RA. BOB will give credit where credit is due, and indeed credit is due and credit given.
GG chaps
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Capt Willard
STK Scientific Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.06.04 12:52:00 -
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Grats on the kill, and good to see BoB posts givings grats as well. (who says chivalry is dead eh?) I just hope this 'desynch' (like lag, except you can petition it) crap doesn't get it reimbursed, would be very unfair on the several MS pilots who lost theirs in a similar way. BoB doesnt need anything else spawned by CCP anyways :)
The Horror...... |

Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Narciss Sevar
Originally by: Pariah Eutrophius Great work Xdeath and RA. BOB will give credit where credit is due, and indeed credit is due and credit given.
GG chaps
Wrong account? 
  me, myself and I ------> |

Kinsy
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.06.04 12:58:00 -
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dbp must be ****ed...
GG, as many have said on our forums at least, it couldn't have happened to a more deserving chap.
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