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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:11:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: Nilit
Originally by: Thanos Draicon
BoB will break up into smaller alliances, all of which will begin fighting each other - that's my guess anyway.
And the reason for BOB to break up would be - ... ?
Fun?
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cal nereus
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: cal nereus on 04/06/2007 20:12:59
Edited by: cal nereus on 04/06/2007 20:12:25
Edited by: cal nereus on 04/06/2007 20:11:15
Assuming BoB does conquer all of 0.0 and BoB does not break up, then we'll just have a bunch of pirates, a bunch of corps, and a bunch of alliances (many consisting of former-members of the alliances BoB defeated) and possibly even some of the existing alliances (like RA, which never dies, and Goonswarm, whose members largely can't or won't join anyone else) just jump right back into 0.0, in different areas. BoB will have a hard time policing all of 0.0 space, especially when their allies are trying to bite off a bit more than they currently have.
BoB, once they have all of 0.0, will then have to keep it, and that is an even tougher challenge than conquering it. Thus, BoB will once again have a nearly impossible goal (and one that won't be quite as fun accomplishing either).
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nilit
Please, there are far more skilled and talented pilots outside of BOB than there are within.
There will always be a challenge, no matter how much of 0.0 BOB controls.
This is a fact
If you look at what people BoB contains right now i think you'd see a lot of the good people from defeated foes. Also, the more 0.0 you control the less 0.0 organizations will attack you - And when you control all of 0.0 the best you can hope for is a very local guerilla war, because IF you manage to conquer all of 0.0 you will have proven that there is no challenge left - As i very much doubt that a challenger that can challenge you at this point will not have been hiding in empire all this time.
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Nilit
Minmatar
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:23:00 -
[64]
In an extreme case, BOB can always give up all of the space it has conquered, wait a while for it to get settled and conquer it again 
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cal nereus
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:25:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Nilit
In an extreme case, BOB can always give up all of the space it has conquered, wait a while for it to get settled and conquer it again
Hmm, pew-pew PvP farming. I like it. :D
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AegriSomnia
Caldari
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:27:00 -
[66]
Originally by: cal nereus
Edited by: cal nereus on 04/06/2007 20:12:59
Edited by: cal nereus on 04/06/2007 20:12:25
Edited by: cal nereus on 04/06/2007 20:11:15
Assuming BoB does conquer all of 0.0 and BoB does not break up, then we'll just have a bunch of pirates, a bunch of corps, and a bunch of alliances (many consisting of former-members of the alliances BoB defeated) and possibly even some of the existing alliances (like RA, which never dies, and Goonswarm, whose members largely can't or won't join anyone else) just jump right back into 0.0, in different areas. BoB will have a hard time policing all of 0.0 space, especially when their allies are trying to bite off a bit more than they currently have.
BoB, once they have all of 0.0, will then have to keep it, and that is an even tougher challenge than conquering it. Thus, BoB will once again have a nearly impossible goal (and one that won't be quite as fun accomplishing either).
o/ signed
Originally by: grayson 34
Thank you for yall's advice, and a special thanks to AegriSomnia for reminding me that there are still ***holes in the world.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:29:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Nilit
In an extreme case, BOB can always give up all of the space it has conquered, wait a while for it to get settled and conquer it again
Lol, is it sad that the first place I went then was "Like the Wraith in Stargate!"? 
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Vasiliyan
Dutch T2 Production
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:34:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Reiisha
Since you need 0.0 space to conquer more of it
Why? Purely titan/MS construction?
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HUGO DRAX
DRAX INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:37:00 -
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I do not know what the big deal is, BoB charges very reasonable rates for Syndicate. I only pay 1 million isk a month for an individual nonexclusive/neutral player rate special. I can make that up in no time and you get the Weekly BoB newsletter which includes good tips on ship buildouts, news on the front etc... |
Larena Larich
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:39:00 -
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Quote:
Hmm, pew-pew PvP farming. I like it. :D
What do you think bob has been doing for years now? They back off let a few alliances get big enough to be fun to kill then wipe them out with their almost infinite bank balances and resources.
Right now bob could send the 4 titans they have and wipe out any conquerable space within a very short period of time. They wont do this as they are indeed farming the pvp alliances.
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AegriSomnia
Caldari
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: HUGO DRAX
I do not know what the big deal is, BoB charges very reasonable rates for Syndicate. I only pay 1 million isk a month for an individual nonexclusive/neutral player rate special. I can make that up in no time and you get the Weekly BoB newsletter which includes good tips on ship buildouts, news on the front etc...
This post is very suspect. It was repeated VERBATUM in another topic. See the first post in a thread titled "WHY YOU DONT RENT FROM BOB". Must be a consipracy...
Originally by: grayson 34
Thank you for yall's advice, and a special thanks to AegriSomnia for reminding me that there are still ***holes in the world.
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Larena Larich
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Posted - 2007.06.04 21:11:00 -
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Oh yeah! I saw that too different char posted it as well. You know it almost makes me think that BOB are scared of people not being thier mining b*tches/defence force that pays for the privilage. I mean if bob didnt get isk just given to them without having to mine or doing any of that boring stuff they might not be able to do pure PVP!
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Wendat Huron
Lupus Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.04 21:23:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
... The main reason they rent is so that someone else is in charge of putting up POSs around the region, fueling them, and defending the region against raids. If Band of Brothers had to manage POSs in every single region they've conquered, they would probably quit EVE out of utter disgust  . I know I would.
And there it is people, the reason not to rent from BoB, them quitting in disgust is a small price to pay instead of everyone else doing it.
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RU Sirius
Blueprint Haus
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 21:52:00 -
[74]
Originally by: ry ry
Originally by: Korizan
You know this is starting to run along the movie storyline of STAR WARS
i see myself as a cross between leia in the gold bikini and han solo.
I see myself as a cross between Greedo in a gold Bikini and Jar Jar Binks.
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max bygraves
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Posted - 2007.06.04 21:59:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/06/2007 15:05:31
What, have the Goons now been ordered to constantly whine about "BoB winning"?
BoB hasn't "won EVE".
BoB isn't going to "win EVE".
Nobody cares about alts spamming the forums with threads about BoB "winning EVE".
Nobody cares what you think either but you keep spamming.
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PirateShampoo
Minmatar
UK Corp
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 22:04:00 -
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The op is completely clueless:
1. Bob did not take the north, however they did commission MC to do so.
2. Friendly allies with bob assisted MC to do so.
3. Those friendly allies are claiming that space (not renting, the sov will be the sov of those alliances and defence is completely up to them. Bob may even come our way if they get too big for their boots)
4. Fade,Delekin,Branch and Tenal AFAIK are not for rent to anyone
5. The only region I am aware of that will be rented are those taken from goonswarm, e.g. omist, tenerifis.
6. Bob still has Goonswarm, TCF, RA (and their friendlies) and all of the RA/Goon aligned small corps in the drone regions before they are close to conquering the universe. This is still a significant force and by the time they finish those off should they ever do you can be sure their will be more threats to go after.
7. All the people that have been conquered have not left the game, they will form new alliances and conquer other parts of space, they will be back just in another form.
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Dal Thrax
Caldari
Multiverse Corporation
The Core Collective
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Posted - 2007.06.04 22:06:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Nilit
Originally by: Thanos Draicon
BoB will break up into smaller alliances, all of which will begin fighting each other - that's my guess anyway.
And the reason for BOB to break up would be - ... ?
Force Majore?
Dal
Things I learned playing PnP RPGs:
1)Always assume that the players will bring the maximum available firepower against a peaceful objective.
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Kharadran Sullath
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.06.04 22:07:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Kharadran Sullath on 04/06/2007 22:08:29
Originally by: Nilit
Originally by: Thanos Draicon
BoB will break up into smaller alliances, all of which will begin fighting each other - that's my guess anyway.
And the reason for BOB to break up would be - ... ?
Perhaps not BoB, but the alliance, if they ever were to capture all of 0.0 space. Due to this --> "Bob is 'Renting' there newly conquered systems out...." If it's true, some alliances will eventually stop paying their rent, and break away.
Not that I believe that it will ever come to one alliance owning all of 0.0 anyway, but I like my theory.
Edit: Also, what PirateShampoo said.
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Cailais
Amarr
VITOC
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.06.04 22:59:00 -
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Edited by: Cailais on 04/06/2007 22:58:01
Im probably the only one, but Id be quite interested to see what would occur in a BOB controlled space. What would be the definition of that control? How would BOB 'police' it -it might hold the space but to what extent will it exert political will?
Id assume that rather than conquer BOB has merely subjugated much of 0.0, within that space will be disaffected elements and of course an continous pressure from high and low sec from newer migrant corps as they move outwards.
Perhaps not the 'end' of EVE, just a different EVE.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 23:09:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Korizan
The odds of BOB taking over all of 0.0 is slim.
The most important statement in the whole thread ^^. That is precisely why it's our goal.
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Southern Kros
LOW SEC MINING
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Posted - 2007.06.04 23:49:00 -
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Bob have maybe 2500 members + pets of 2500 but I could be wrong so please correct me.
The rest of the game total maybe 150,000.
So BOB win 0.0 space, maybe the 150,000 should camp empire gates to 0.0 and keep them there.
Or maybe Bob will keep us in Empire but doing the same.
Seems to me that a "small" dedicated well organised group of players can achieve so much should actually get a slap on the back and they deserve some respect.
Such a shame it could make for one dull PVE game.
I will refine my mining lasers for guns, my barge for a cruiser and any trit left can make the ammo. Anyone care to join me and lets take on Bob.
mmmm
Didn't think so, back to sucking roids I guess.
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Cudaya Ebsldes
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Posted - 2007.06.05 00:20:00 -
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Will someone please explain why the moderators have not moved the threads ôWhy you donÆt rent from BOBö and ôBOB wins!!! Now what?ö to the ôCorporation, Alliance and Organizationö thread, or some thread suitable to this topic.
Or is this evidence, on the face of it, that there is àààà in running these forums?
Does this indicate that BOB = EVE ôGeneral Discussion?ö
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Plaetean
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.05 00:37:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Korizan
The odds of BOB taking over all of 0.0 is slim.
The most important statement in the whole thread ^^. That is precisely why it's our goal.
You do realise that if you suceed, it would kill the game? The majority of other players treat the game differently than you guys seem to; many of the corps leaving D2 said that fighting you made the game like work (possibly partially to do with the game mechanics; POS warfare, titans etc) but also due to the difference in attitudes of the two sides towards the game. I think CYVOK made some comments to similar effects.
BoB's supercapital fleet now will only increase and increase, widening the gap between BoB and any threats that might emerge, making those possible threats even more easy to remove; so while I doubt complete and total control of all 0.0 is possible, I also doubt that there will be another significant threat to BoB space.
The war with the coalition, IMO, represented a tipping point; BoB has grown stronger from the victory, and eliminated the only real threat to it's space, aswell as proven it's strength at holding it's space, but what next? Continue to take out non rent paying alliances until nothing is left apart from pirate and guerilla style groups?
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.05 00:47:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Cudaya Ebsldes
Will someone please explain why the moderators have not moved the threads ôWhy you donÆt rent from BOBö and ôBOB wins!!! Now what?ö to the ôCorporation, Alliance and Organizationö thread, or some thread suitable to this topic.
Or is this evidence, on the face of it, that there is àààà in running these forums?
Does this indicate that BOB = EVE ôGeneral Discussion?ö
Nah, they're just doing it to spite my opening "IBTL" 
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Gee Lok
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Posted - 2007.06.05 00:58:00 -
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Really eve is a big experiment. No one has ever tried to do something like this before with so many people playing on a single server.
I guess there might be a few other multiplayer games on this scale, but they are not as risky as eve.
CCP made this universe and gave it to us to use as we see fit. There was no design in what has happened. And no one could have predicted this outcome.
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