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Easy Sleezy
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:53:00 -
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Bob and the Bobbettes are finishing off the north as we speak...so what is there to do in 00 now? Bob is 'Renting' there newly conquered systems out....Which couldnt be good for all of Eve....If there is no where to go in 00 and be competitive with out the fear of Bob or the bobbettes cynoing in and taking out everything you own...why play the game the way it was meant too?
I suggest to level the playing field....Bob WINS!!!!! Reset all the accounts and start over....Everyone starts a new and see where it goes.....
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:56:00 -
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This is a definite IBTL, I'm afraid.
Not a totally invalid point, though. I do wonder what will happen if any one alliance (BoB or anyone) ever got near total control of 0.0. Wouldn't be particularly fun, thats for sure.
(Not that I neccessarily think that will happen, it's just a general fear).
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Myz Toyou
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:56:00 -
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Run to teh hillz ?
CYVOK > All you station jockies better get out their and start killing these idiots
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/06/2007 15:05:31
What, have the Goons now been ordered to constantly whine about "BoB winning"?
BoB hasn't "won EVE".
BoB isn't going to "win EVE".
Nobody cares about alts spamming the forums with threads about BoB "winning EVE".
--23 Member--
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Thanos Draicon
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:59:00 -
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BoB will break up into smaller alliances, all of which will begin fighting each other - that's my guess anyway.
The easiest way to 'fix' Eve is to ruin CCP's credibility in the industry, and totally BEEP ruin the launch and their White Wolf RPG by epic degrees of BEEP and griefing."
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bluecheast
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:02:00 -
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so sad to see ppl realy beliving this
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Eemaavi
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Thanos Draicon
BoB will break up into smaller alliances, all of which will begin fighting each other - that's my guess anyway.
spoken like a true Goonie
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Dal Thrax
Caldari
Multiverse Corporation
The Core Collective
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:04:00 -
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While the OP is clearly a troll I believe some of the earlier web and BBS space games have dealt with the question "what do you do when an alliance of players conquored the entire board". I'm afraid that the most common answer has been to declare the game over and reset. From what I read down on the development and testing forum though we're going to see some form of stacking nerft to tower deployment times at some point after Rev 2. This may be the first step to CCP implementing rules limiting how much space an alliance can take (though unless alt alliances are also banned I'm not sure it'll work).
Dal
Things I learned playing PnP RPGs:
1)Always assume that the players will bring the maximum available firepower against a peaceful objective.
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Laudicia
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:04:00 -
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:05:00 -
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You win Eve by having fun.
So I guess that if BoB have been enjoying themselves then they have indeed won Eve.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Exortius Amarrus
The Clearwater Society
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:08:00 -
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It's not even close to over yet. I'm hoping for many more months of pew pew.
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 04/06/2007 15:10:37
i don't think running the galaxy would be nearly as much fun as conquering it. if BoB do 'win' eve they'll split, reset standings, and start all over again.
And with the old alliances torn apart and the universe breaking down into TOTAL WAR we'd hit some crazy new golden age of eve. imo.
edit. although to be honest, unless they have a Super Top Secret Plan, i'd imagine they're a way off winning yet.
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DiuxDium
Caldari
Free Mercenaries Union
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:11:00 -
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dal Thrax
While the OP is clearly a troll I believe some of the earlier web and BBS space games have dealt with the question "what do you do when an alliance of players conquored the entire board". I'm afraid that the most common answer has been to declare the game over and reset. From what I read down on the development and testing forum though we're going to see some form of stacking nerft to tower deployment times at some point after Rev 2. This may be the first step to CCP implementing rules limiting how much space an alliance can take (though unless alt alliances are also banned I'm not sure it'll work).
Dal
Nah, in this case the 4 main empires just get nervous and declare war on BoB. 
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FarScape III
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: FarScape III on 04/06/2007 15:13:37
Originally by: Thanos Draicon
BoB will break up into smaller alliances, all of which will begin fighting each other - that's my guess anyway.
A Minmater City... Cool!
My Stats :) |
Little Strawberry
Caldari
Pyrrhus Sicarii
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:15:00 -
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See the mods over in CAOD were too fast, so they're going to spam GD now.
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: FarScape III
Originally by: Thanos Draicon
BoB will break up into smaller alliances, all of which will begin fighting each other - that's my guess anyway.
What would be the point?
You hate to see anyone succeed?
What's the matter? Do you admire the people who waist their lives away trying to do stuff like that to games like SWG?
P.S. I guess BoB will be the concord of 0.0.
But if that's the case then maybe allainces are allowed to be too large.
On the other hand BoB is no more then the part of the player deciding to join the winning side and not be the underdogs'.
what? have you been sniffing glue? 'concord of 0.0' indeed.
bob's aims aren't altruistic, they're having fun!
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bloomich
Trotter's Independent Traders Co
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:19:00 -
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What a fantastic thing. Lets have NPC 0.0 and Conqurable 0.0.
Now if someone conquers the conqurable parts of 0.0 to rent them out, this MMO just hit goverment sub-profession. The only mmo to do this!
However what about NPC 0.0? Why dont you guys play there if you dont want polotics? NPC 0.0 space always has better rats, roids everything! Whats wrong with NPC 0.0?
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Roshan longshot
Gallente
Ordos Humanitas
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:22:00 -
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could of fooled me....(hides the BoB wreckage) I mean you must be the pro here...
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FarScape III
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: FarScape III on 04/06/2007 15:22:23
Originally by: ry ry
Originally by: FarScape III
Originally by: Thanos Draicon
BoB will break up into smaller alliances, all of which will begin fighting each other - that's my guess anyway.
What would be the point?
You hate to see anyone succeed?
What's the matter? Do you admire the people who waist their lives away trying to do stuff like that to games like SWG?
P.S. I guess BoB will be the concord of 0.0.
But if that's the case then maybe allainces are allowed to be too large.
On the other hand BoB is no more then the part of the player deciding to join the winning side and not be the underdogs'.
what? have you been sniffing glue? 'concord of 0.0' indeed.
bob's aims aren't altruistic, they're having fun!
sorry I was reacting to the Goonswarm quote, and I thought it was in the normal post area, I tried to fix it above.
P.S. I mean Concord because if you want to go to 0.0 and have it realy safe just get with BoB, and there you go, who will touch you, especialy if you are towards their middle.
A Minmater City... Cool!
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Vasiliyan
Dutch T2 Production
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:23:00 -
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I think it's still possible to do very well as a combat alliance, provided your pilots have a source of replacement T2 ships that isn't dependant on holding outposts. Don't get into the outpost game until you have a substantial capital fleet, and don't allow the alliance to be preoccupied by personal profit.
Reset with current game mechanics (POS, T2 etc) would be a complete disaster.
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Korizan
Oort Cloud Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Easy Sleezy
Bob is 'Renting' there newly conquered systems out....
That very statement explains ALOT.
That statement tells me that BOB does not want to over extend itself and leave its home turf undefended.
While they may be able to control new areas they choose not to and rent out the new areas for extra cash.
How long that extra cash is given before someone decides to revolt is another story but big deal cash is cash take the money while you can.
You can always go back in a do it again when needed.
BOB is not all powerful and I am sure they have there share of internal issues.
BUT to BOB's credit they have held it together when others have not.
The odds of BOB taking over all of 0.0 is slim.
But if you really want to stay game over then everyone start paying out monthly fees to BOB to leave them alone.
When that happens then BOB won.
But until everyone does the game is still in play.
You know this is starting to run along the movie storyline of STAR WARS
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: bloomich
What a fantastic thing. Lets have NPC 0.0 and Conqurable 0.0.
Now if someone conquers the conqurable parts of 0.0 to rent them out, this MMO just hit goverment sub-profession. The only mmo to do this!
However what about NPC 0.0? Why dont you guys play there if you dont want polotics? NPC 0.0 space always has better rats, roids everything! Whats wrong with NPC 0.0?
The NPC regions aren't devoid of politics. Just check out Joshua's map compared to the Influence Map, and you'll see that *someone* always claims the NPC Sov 0.0.
For example, according to Josh's map, Triumvirate claim Venal and someone called CoW (Cult of War, is that?) claims Great Wildlands, despite both of them being non sovereign.
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Divus
Black Omega Security
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Divus on 04/06/2007 15:25:45
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Korizan
Originally by: Easy Sleezy
Bob is 'Renting' there newly conquered systems out....
That very statement explains ALOT.
That statement tells me that BOB does not want to over extend itself and leave its home turf undefended.
While they may be able to control new areas they choose not to and rent out the new areas for extra cash.
The reason they rent, IMO, is not for the cash. A few billion a month is pennies compared to their earnings from other sources.
The main reason they rent is so that someone else is in charge of putting up POSs around the region, fueling them, and defending the region against raids. If Band of Brothers had to manage POSs in every single region they've conquered, they would probably quit EVE out of utter disgust . I know I would.
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Judas Lonestar
Ganja Labs
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:30:00 -
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No Empire lasts forever. Not in games, not in real life.
Eventually the slave wants to be the master.
Respect to BOB for getting where they are though.
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Sochin
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:34:00 -
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Sweet, now where is the high score screen?
Nemo me impune lacessit
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Korizan
You know this is starting to run along the movie storyline of STAR WARS
i see myself as a cross between leia in the gold bikini and han solo.
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Korizan
Oort Cloud Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Korizan
Originally by: Easy Sleezy
Bob is 'Renting' there newly conquered systems out....
That very statement explains ALOT.
That statement tells me that BOB does not want to over extend itself and leave its home turf undefended.
While they may be able to control new areas they choose not to and rent out the new areas for extra cash.
The reason they rent, IMO, is not for the cash. A few billion a month is pennies compared to their earnings from other sources.
The main reason they rent is so that someone else is in charge of putting up POSs around the region, fueling them, and defending the region against raids. If Band of Brothers had to manage POSs in every single region they've conquered, they would probably quit EVE out of utter disgust . I know I would.
Your very right over extention and logistics a huge part of running an alliance.
And the rents will only defer some of the cost of the campain, but something is better then nothing.
And it does increase the buffer area as well.
And that is the very reason why I don't see BOB taking over 0.0
The logistics would be a nightmare and you would have to appoint regional governers (couldn't resist a term from Star Wars) to keep the local areas in line.
But how long will that last.
Power will be turned over and how long before someone starts thinking of personnal power gain rather then for the better of the Empire 
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Thanos Draicon
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Eemaavi
Originally by: Thanos Draicon
BoB will break up into smaller alliances, all of which will begin fighting each other - that's my guess anyway.
spoken like a true Goonie
Jeez! I'm not an alt and I'm not exactly pro-goon either. What I'm saying is that BoB plays EVE for the thrill of conquest and the challenge of facing off against other players/alliances. If BoB conquers all of 0.0, the only way for them to continue that would be to break up into smaller forces and fight each other. I don't think that's too unreasonable...
The easiest way to 'fix' Eve is to ruin CCP's credibility in the industry, and totally BEEP ruin the launch and their White Wolf RPG by epic degrees of BEEP and griefing."
-Dawnfiend, Goonswarm |
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