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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:28:00 -
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Hicks if you wanted this situation resolved then your side should have approached the business with a whole lot more respect.
I'm sorry I can't resist biting the tender juicy hook.
We did resolve it Jade. We kicked you out of the alliance.
We didn't need to approach it in another way. I guess we could have asked you to leave Jerricho so they could stay in the alliance, but I'd imagine you wouldn't want that.
Now, a way to have kicked you without respect would have been to blow up the 4 members of your corp that turned up to fight FE, but unlike terra nova, we don't shoot our allies, even if we are going to ask them to leave the alliance.
We have respect for Jerricho as a corp, that is why we didn't shoot them. We just have no respect left for you.
By WE I mean me myself and ireene.
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:30:00 -
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In respect of all our fellow EVE players, I will now withdraw from this thread and save you some bandwidth. Besides, the 1000 reasons for been addicted to eve is much more entertaining :)
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:31:00 -
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That make me so happy "Thankyou Jade"
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Jade Constantine > try adding "yap yap" you sound like mongo peck
I now know where I am going wrong in the art of diplomacy ....
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Jade Constantine > lair
Jade Constantine > you are a f**king liar
Jade Constantine > f*ck you
Jade Constantine > you are a liar
Mongo speaks !!
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:33:00 -
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Stop making out we dont like JF, or are persecuting an onnocent corporation, they are being "punished" because of your attitude, and the trouble you cause, kick you out, and they are more than welcome back, we would even share mining ops wih them.
Well you are hardly consistent even in your own rhetoric Eddz. First this was about Miso, then it was about Gan Ning, now it is about me. Lets face it, you guys just want a scapegoat to explain away your lack of success in warfare and lack of success in making an alliance council that can work.
I have heard all this before.
You blame "carebear" corps because Biomass whup you.
You blame "non-pvper members" because you can't drive away the enemy from mining ops.
You blame PR for the fact that pirates pirate your indies.
You blame recruitment policy for old venal traitors.
You blame open borders for pirates logging at Y-4.
La-di-da, its all about blaming someone else.
And guess what, I am a good target because you know you can count on the pirate chorus to back you up and the chances are I won't be back with a fleet of pirate battleships to humiliate you at the weekend.
Well done!
You have found a target you can score points at.
But lets face it, you don't look terribly noble doing it.
JF Public Forum |
KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:34:00 -
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Hmm well this doesnt look like your normal sophisticated, articulated penmanship tbh:
edited.
"[ 2004.01.09 14:58:29 ] Jade Constantine > you are a ******* liar
[ 2004.01.09 14:58:30 ] Artegg > no i am not
[ 2004.01.09 14:58:39 ] Jade Constantine > **** you
[ 2004.01.09 14:58:41 ] Jade Constantine > you are a liar "
"[ 2004.01.09 14:59:41 ] Jade Constantine > just **** off Artegg you lying tosspot"
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:37:00 -
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Guess what Eddz, when a cowardly fighter like Artegg and his "Zero valid ship losses in the entirety on the FE war" starts telling lies about the participation of one's corp mates in channel. Sometimes a little swearing is in order.
You think that makes me look bad?
I'm proud that I care about the reputation of my corp and corp mates.
And our reputation was being slandered by Artegg.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:42:00 -
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And since we are doing the chatlog quote game ... try this one for size.
[ 2004.01.09 15:14:32 ] Jade Constantine > i stopped paying attention when krullz started calling for corps to be kicked
[ 2004.01.09 15:14:58 ] Artegg > krullz was right corps should have been kicked
This pertains to the famous council meeting/jericho fraction labelled FE traitors weekend, where I came to MIB channel and protested the fact that CDI had called for the kicking out of all "carebear corporations" from the NVA.
Nobody in that channel was prepared to admit that I was telling the truth, and CDI had proposed that plan.
Yet, here we are, down the line and Artegg confirms that the whole bunch of you were appalling mealy-mouthed hypocritical liars and knew exactly what had been said and by whom.
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Beryllium Dragon
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: Beryllium Dragon on 12/01/2004 19:00:47
Edited by: Beryllium Dragon on 12/01/2004 18:50:49
Ok, I for one have found these threads to be rather entertaining, but I'll politely point out that no friends are being made with the attacks tossed in all directions. I would wager a guess that all bets have been made at this point and the table is how should we say "closed".
If you would like to continue please...
die in a carfire
***forgot how large the image was.
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There was the Door to which I found no Key;
There was the Veil through which I might not see:
Some little talk awhile of Me and Thee
There was--and then no more of Thee and Me.
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:53:00 -
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Its worth remembering Darth that these teamspeak discussions apparently contained detail of the Foresaken Empire demand that JF be ejected from the alliance as a precondition to the merger.
Jade that is pure speculaton on your part and you know it. you claim to speak the TRUTH, this and you must know it is a blatant peice of assumption. and as well all know if you assusme it makes an ass out of.... well you.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:58:00 -
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Hence my use of the word "apparently" Pieman, since I haven't heard the recording in question.
I have on the other hand been told that the pre-requisite term for our booting out exists by many sources.
Some FE, some NVA. And when I raised the contention in discussion with NVA people it has never been denied.
Hence I consider "apparently" is good enough in this case.
Tell me Pieman.
Is my assumption wrong, have I been misinformed?
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Halseth Durn on 12/01/2004 19:07:35
Edited by: Halseth Durn on 12/01/2004 19:03:48
These are my favorite selections from the posted chatlog.....
[ 2004.01.09 14:06:59 ] Biatchy > DO you know how and when and by who the so called ceasefire between FE and NVA started?
[ 2004.01.09 14:07:08 ] Jade Constantine > Oberon called it
[ 2004.01.09 14:07:09 ] Biatchy > *Do
[ 2004.01.09 14:07:38 ] Jade Constantine > forums and government and such
[ 2004.01.09 14:07:26 ] Jade Constantine > they are pretty much running the NVA at the moment
[ 2004.01.09 14:07:51 ] Jade Constantine > it was all decided at a teamspeak meeting i wasn't at
[ 2004.01.09 14:07:56 ] Jade Constantine > they came back
[ 2004.01.09 14:08:04 ] Jade Constantine > said "actually biomass are nice guys"
[ 2004.01.09 14:08:10 ] Jade Constantine > and lets consider it
[ 2004.01.09 14:08:13 ] Jade Constantine > ceasefire is on
[ 2004.01.09 14:08:20 ] Jade Constantine > on the authority of Halseth Durn
[ 2004.01.09 14:09:00 ] Biatchy > But such things like ceasefire, going to have votes from all corps in NVA, just one or two corps can decide and affect many corps without asking?
[ 2004.01.09 14:09:11 ] Jade Constantine > its ****
[ 2004.01.09 14:09:12 ] Jade Constantine > i know
[ 2004.01.09 14:09:27 ] Jade Constantine > but its been like that since the council forums got moved
[ 2004.01.09 14:09:32 ] Jade Constantine > and i was ousted[ 2004.01.09 14:09:38 ] Jade Constantine > from PR chied ;)
[ 2004.01.09 14:09:43 ] Jade Constantine > sad but true
[ 2004.01.09 14:09:55 ] Jade Constantine > tidy little cartels decide everything now
[ 2004.01.09 14:11:10 ] Biatchy > how long are the cease fire btw oberoninc(NVA?) and FE?
[ 2004.01.09 14:11:57 ] Jade Constantine > official until sat
[ 2004.01.09 14:12:01 ] Jade Constantine > and the vote
[ 2004.01.09 14:13:54 ] Biatchy > Have OberonInc explaind why the wanted ceasefire? And why they didnt ask others about this?
[ 2004.01.09 14:14:22 ] Jade Constantine > yes
[ 2004.01.09 14:14:28 ] Jade Constantine > Oberon want to mine in peace
[ 2004.01.09 14:14:34 ] Jade Constantine > whatever the cost
[ 2004.01.09 14:14:46 ] Jade Constantine > and they don't think they can beat foresaken
[ 2004.01.09 14:14:54 ] Jade Constantine > so they think its worth joining the pirates
[ 2004.01.09 14:15:01 ] Jade Constantine > rather than continuing to fight
[ 2004.01.09 14:15:12 ] Jade Constantine > ... thats pretty much the argument
[ 2004.01.09 14:16:37 ] Biatchy > Thx for the info, atleast now I got some more meat on the bones...
I love how you not only lie (bold type) about the situation, YOU ACTUALLY SPEAK FOR OUR CORP. The nerve to actually tell some poor sucker what our views are! I really feel for the people of this game like Biactchy that take your rotten word at face value because you are "Jade Consantine". SAD.
FYI: the above bolded items are either lies or deliberate misinformation.
Darth, Oberon has always offered ships at cost value to alliance members to replace combat losses. All you have to do is ask. But then again we have admitted to our communication problems. working on that issue as we speak.
P.S. Jade, I still challenge you to a moderated teamspeak/ventrillo debate on any topic you want. Eve-radio could broadcast it and it would be a BLAST! Please?
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |
Havocide
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Havocide on 12/01/2004 19:03:27
/emote loves to watch the NVA ***** at each other
*munchs on popcorn* 
edit: darth your group is wasted in the NVA, become a free spirit and kill them as well as us 
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:06:00 -
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And what parts of that explanation were untrue Halseth?
(Bearing in mind I am quite prepared to quote your Eve Guardian article)
And as the challenged party to the debate I still accept, and still name moderated in-game chat my chosen (as the challenged right) location for the engagement.
JF Public Forum |
Havocide
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:08:00 -
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word wars! hardcore
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:11:00 -
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Guess what Eddz, when a cowardly fighter like Artegg and his "Zero valid ship losses in the entirety on the FE war" starts telling lies about the participation of one's corp mates in channel. Sometimes a little swearing is in order.
You think that makes me look bad?
I'm proud that I care about the reputation of my corp and corp mates.
And our reputation was being slandered by Artegg.
First Halseth now me jade who is going to be the next target that you go for and is this going to carry on intill you manage to break up the new alliance because if it is then i feel very sorry for your fingers which are going to be working on overdrive to try to acheive a goal that you have made clear.
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Raven Senshi
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:11:00 -
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Can anyone else seeing a Civil War brewing?
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:12:00 -
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Correct ........
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I have on the other hand been told that the pre-requisite term for our booting out exists by many sources
Mongo speaks !!
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Tango612
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:14:00 -
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Jade, I wish to speak to you ingame, yet it seems you are offline. |
Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:18:00 -
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Edited by: Halseth Durn on 12/01/2004 19:46:16
Edited by: Halseth Durn on 12/01/2004 19:27:33
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And what parts of that explanation were untrue Halseth?
All in bold.
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(Bearing in mind I am quite prepared to quote your Eve Guardian article)
LOL!!!! Go ahead! you allready leaked it once to them! And furthermore, I am proud of that private letter to my fellow allince corps. I was completely honest and forthcoming on how I felt and what our options were at THAT TIME. Also many other corps felt the same exact way. I also changed my mind after giving it some more thought and discussion with other NVA persons that I respect. And if you do quote it, please include what I stated as Oberon options at the end. all 3 of them.
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And as the challenged party to the debate I still accept, and still name moderated in-game chat my chosen (as the challenged right) location for the engagement.
No. ingame chat is slow, weak and unlike you, I hate typing. Besides everyone would fallasleep halfway trough your fist novela of a turn at the podium. On Teamspeak we can get it done in 30 mins. and the entire comunity will enjoy it. Come on, for the good of this great game, lets do it! Homo erectus (and I think Stavros) had allready agreed to moderate.
P.S. Picking on Artegg now is so predictable. You are not going to to find another target. so you might as well stick to me. Also He is the coolest and oozing with honor. In fact he is one of the main reasons we abandoned the FE merger deal.
P.P.S. to all of te small corps that got dropped thought communication *****s. We are sorry and a working as hard as possible to fix this situation. We know that Jade is telling you all lies and lobbying you all to start a guerilla war on us. (She wants to re-live her one glory moment from the past) She will tell you anything to achieve this. don't be a sucker.
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |
Artegg
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:19:00 -
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Still waiting for a answer to the below question
Now jade answer a question for me here Would a coward
A) Log back on and continue the fight with honor
B) stay logged off and log back later in the hope that valeria has left the area and i can get home.
You have a 50:50 chance of getting this one right even i am sure you can do it.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:19:00 -
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First Halseth now me jade who is going to be the next target that you go for and is this going to carry on intill you manage to break up the new alliance because if it is then i feel very sorry for your fingers which are going to be working on overdrive to try to acheive a goal that you have made clear.
You know the sad thing Artegg?
I don't actually want you to fail. I don't bare a grudge for the actually events which occured. In a way i hope that many of the corps that have TinA will prosper and succeed.
You entirely miss the point of all this forum debate and nonsense.
You guys picked me as a scapegoat, booted my corp, and then unleashed Halseth to do a hatchet job on my reputation.
Thats not the kind of thing I can or will, stand and take. Especially not when you guys are totally in the wrong. And proveable so.
Its not the backstab that annoys me.
Its the pretence that you have any credibility and honour left.
You should admit that you are villains and relish it.
Gafton and Hicks already have.
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:19:00 -
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Jade Constantine > Merdekka, can i ask where you stand on the new Northern Alliance that Oberon made
Jade Constantine > basically ... Jericho has been kicked
Merdekka Radaen > is that the one with the pirates in?
Jade Constantine > and Oberon and Cdi have made a new alliacne
Toulak > Join the club Merd
Jade Constantine > they are pirate neutral apparently Merdekka
Ar'leich Grade > bah
Jade Constantine > and hold out the hope of still merging with FE
Merdekka Radaen > right, so it's just Oberon and CDI right now?
Jade Constantine > plus
Jade Constantine > rona/kia
Ar'leich Grade > u can't be neutral with pirates, you're either a pirate or not
Jade Constantine > and some others
Merdekka Radaen > what about the bladerunners?
DB Preacher > bladerunners and kia are in
Jade Constantine > they are currently working with the Northern alliance
Jade Constantine > they believe they can prevent Oberon merging with Forsaken
Jade Constantine > i think they are just being used
Merdekka Radaen > well I don't know really, of course I'm not a fan of pirates and would never ally myself or even be neutral towards them
Merdekka Radaen > I've just been told that the alliance stance towards pirates is just as extreme as before
TuDDi > they are killing them as we speak
Merdekka Radaen > yeah, apparently it's going very well
Merdekka Radaen > as evidenced by biomass peeps scooting around in pods
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:25:00 -
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"Now, a way to have kicked you without respect would have been to blow up the 4 members of your corp that turned up to fight FE, but unlike terra nova, we don't shoot our allies, even if we are going to ask them to leave the alliance.
We have respect for Jerricho as a corp, that is why we didn't shoot them."
... Yay; some way to show the respect, indeed -- you didn't shoot people who turned up to help you, merely told them to f.ck off in not so many words. Because you respect them.
Y'know, i was pretty miffed last week after Maud said to wait with going to Venal until weekend, because all those idiots wailing meanwhile how JF never does anything yaddayaddayadda was getting on my nerves. And i was ****ed off at myself on Saturday because had forgotten how long it takes to get anywhere in something bigger than the frigate, and was falling behind thanks to nothing but my own stupidity.
But after what you just said here? Not anymore. :/
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:25:00 -
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You are asking the me the wrong question Artegg.
You should be asking ...
Why does a self-proclaimed NVA military leader take pride in his ability to avoid all valid ship losses in war, while the rest of the alliance gets slaughtered week after week?
A) Because he is a coward and avoids all combat (sitting in the background letting others fight).
B) Because he believes the art of fighting wars is not to lose any ships (and those that do are weak and stupid).
C) Because he doesn't understand how stupid claiming CTD as an excuse for a single ship loss makes him look.
And in conclusion.
I don't give a monkey's uncle whether you logged back in or not Artegg.
What does concern me is that you labelled JF cowards and non-combatents when we have lost dozens of ships in the fighting and you have lost only one.
I'd also like to know what 30 ships you personally destroyed as well.
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:31:00 -
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lol you're talking out of your ass jade. Artegg's been in every fight 've ever known, including our holidays in fdz4 
How does not loosing a ship make someone a coward 
please blow me up so i can be a hero 
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v ger
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:33:00 -
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This has gone way off topic…..If you would like to have a he said-she said smack fest….please start another thread.
If I may make a point here, Darth’s concerns are felt by all our corp members. Shadow has always put issues that affect the corp, up to a vote. He has always given everyone a chance to speak their mind and ask questions. This is the point of Darth’s post. He is looking for answers that he can relay back to us as facts, not hearsay or gossip.
So here is where I see it:
1.This issue will come to a vote within our corp.
2.The future of our allegiance to the Venal area IS in the balance.
My hope is that my vote will be based on facts, not emotion.
*Disclaimer:
Everything I have said here is of my own thought and opinion, and in no way, am I speaking for or acting as, the corp spokesperson.
Training Bait lvl 10 Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:34:00 -
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Scapegoat? No, problem. The problem was removed. Unfortunately, we couldnt keep a good corp because the CEO was the problem.
Halseth starts a hatchet job? No you started a hatchet job on me. I was willing to let you fade away peacefully. But as they say "if you mess with the bull, you get the horns".
Now either face me in an EVE-RADIO debate or fade away.
Please.
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |
Masor
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:43:00 -
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Im scanning the forum and i dont see anywhere he said JF where cowards?
Christ its like trying to argue with a kid who thinks they know all, and when they get cornered the try to get out by making more lies on top of lies.
Christ jade grow up and start acting mature. Just face facts YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON TO BLAME in your corp the rest have nothing to do with it live with it.
And josephene i would of said it was respect, we dont want to attack you the only person they have a problem is jade not you or any of the other members. And i dont think they would of liked to of used you to fight and then of kicked your corp. Asking you to leave was just so that you dont feel used if JF was gonna be kicked from the alliance. It would of been wrong to expect you to help us at that time, no hard feelings where meant to those who went to help from JF, we respect those players.
War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can't smile, grin. If you can't grin, keep out of the way till you can.
The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:46:00 -
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This has gone way off topicą..If you would like to have a he said-she said smack festą.please start another thread.
If I may make a point here, DarthĘs concerns are felt by all our corp members. Shadow has always put issues that affect the corp, up to a vote. He has always given everyone a chance to speak their mind and ask questions. This is the point of DarthĘs post. He is looking for answers that he can relay back to us as facts, not hearsay or gossip.
So here is where I see it:
1.This issue will come to a vote within our corp.
2.The future of our allegiance to the Venal area IS in the balance.
My hope is that my vote will be based on facts, not emotion.
*Disclaimer:
Everything I have said here is of my own thought and opinion, and in no way, am I speaking for or acting as, the corp spokesperson.
Training Bait lvl 10 Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Gafton
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Gafton on 12/01/2004 19:55:08
Edited by: Gafton on 12/01/2004 19:52:53
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I don't actually want you to fail. I don't bare a grudge for the actually events which occured. In a way i hope that many of the corps that have TinA will prosper and succeed.
For one who doesnt bear a grudge and wishes us success you sure have a funny way of going on about it. Usually someone who supports something will lend positive support, not start a smear campaign and be reduced to name calling.
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You guys picked me as a scapegoat, booted my corp, and then unleashed Halseth to do a hatchet job on my reputation.
Scapegoat for what? You have to be blamed for something to become a scapegoat. Reality of the situation is that people dont like you. The only way to remove you from the alliance was to kick your corp. I dont see how you fail to grasp this concept. Its not difficult.
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You should admit that you are villains and relish it.
Gafton and Hicks already have
How touching. So what # am i on your personal **** list? I mean if we were really villans we'd declare war on your corp and sit outside your station in torrinos and pop u when u undocked
Ps, jade if you really want to get into the logs and hypocracy, i have some juicies that would interest some people.
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