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Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:22:00 -
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Okay Jade I will give you what you want the oppurtuntiy to ask any question you want in the form of a question and I will answer every single one of these truthfully and honestly to the best of my knowledge. I know there is a lot of slander going on in this forum and I hope that my reputation is enough to hold that I have some truth behind my statement above and below. So ask away. This is purely for your benifit and everyone elses here on the forums. This is what you are good out, your wit is sharp and I am willing to do my best. So here we go Jade RONA is here and opening itself to your questions.
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Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:35:00 -
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Go ahead Crice. I will answer peoples questions to the best of my knowledge.
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Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:45:00 -
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I did recieve your evemail last night when I logged in around 2 am my time. Just becasue of my overall physical condition and my state of mind I felt it better to do that when I return from work later this evening. I have spoken with both Biomass and Huff in regards to your situation of which I am sure you have gotten copies of the log. I will help you in anyway I possibly can, as you were very respectful and part of the reason I did get to meet and talk with some of the FE guys. I will be sending you a response or if you need I can do what I can from here to help you with your issue.
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Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Robeyone on 12/01/2004 19:53:06
Sally RONA-KIA is already available for that. Each of the corps were seperated prior to any of this for hangar and wallet reasons. The org is easier this way and when you get to 267 peope, alts and everything, organization is key. So in short no. You can shoot at RONA-KIA.
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Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.01.12 20:10:00 -
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1. What is the identity of the person who compromised the trust at the old forum and passed internal Jericho logs to Krullz of CDI to publish.
My Answer:
Honeslty Jade I have no idea and I can definitly see where this is a concern. Spies were a major issue and getting information like that leaked was a problem. If I can get an answer I will.
2. What is the identity of the source that told The Preacher that Jericho was defecting to the Foresaken Empire.
My Answer:
That is something I also have no knowledge about. Nor did this actually ever reach my ears.
3. Were you aware of the CDI proposal to eject "carebear" corporations from the NVA and return the organisation to a reduced "founder counil" back in december?
My Answer:
Yes I was aware of the proposal to kick carebear corporations from the NVA. But only after the proposal had been made. I was approached by Halseth because he was supposedly on the chopping block. Which I then began to run a campaign to see where this information was coming from. I did not know the source of the conversation and I came in at the point where I wanted to work out talks with Jehrico and CDI and CDI and Oberon both of which were having issues with each other. RONA was against the premise at the time becasue even we could have been considered carebear just because of our lack of PVP players. I did not every confirm who it was who pushed the idea though I did hear that it was CDI. I never followed that through as the issue was eventually dropped.
4. On the Foresaken Empire teamspeak proposal (did it contain a specific demand that JF should be ousted from the NVA prior to merger of alliances).
My Answer:
Yes it was specifically stated that Jehrico Faction could not join the FE. And no there was no prior demand that Jehrico be ousted by the NVA prior to the merger.
5. Was Halseth Durn in favour of the proposal? Did he argue for it.
My Answer:
Halseth was put in a difficult place because everytime I went to Halseth RONA was in a different place in the decision making process. Halseth was for the proposal and in fact posted it on the forums. The very next day I talked with him and told him about offers to join another alliance and possibly creating our own alliance. He promptly said he had to publicly take the foot from his mouth and was in support of his allies. Then again the whole decision process in a new place a couple of hours later. Oberon was always sticking by the side of her allies and Halseth made that very apparent to us.
6. Do you consider that supporting the FE merger was a betrayal of the declaration of NVA principles and later Charter of government, both documents signed by you?
Yes of course I would. We were an anti-pirate alliance and joining the FE would have been in blatent disregard for that charter. There are if ands or buts about it.
7. Do you believe that "adaption and evolution" are concepts that excuse breaking your given word.
My Answer:
At the time I never even though of it that way. RONA was trying to look at the bigger picture when making a decision about what it was going to do as a corporation. And this was of course with the input of other allies within the organization including my breif talks with you. I think there were a lot of problems with the NVA and our intention was to take as many of the NVA with us so there wouldn't be that issue. But in the end people got hurt and people were overlooked. I apologize for that.
8. Was there a "unamimous" vote to eject JF from the NVA.
Yes of the corporations that were in the conversation and later in a fleet engagment there was indeed a vote that was asked to confirm that Jehrico was not to be part of the new alliance. This was on TS though not in a formal NVA voting style.
9. Was there any sort of vote to eject JF from the NVA.
No
10. Were the NVA charter rules followed in this process?
N/A
11. Was the NVA council voting forum used in this process?
N/A
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Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.01.12 20:55:00 -
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12. Was this a simple politic coup to remove a single unwanted member of the alliance?
My Answer:
Actually no it wasn't we felt that there were way to many bureaucratic problems with the way the NVA was working. We also felt that there was a closer group and organization forming because of this proposal from the FE. We looked at it as an oppurtunity to change things quickly and fix things we saw wrong with the NVA.
13. Given that word and trust has been broken here. Why should anyone believe that Rona Corp would not break its word again in similar circumstances if it was in your corporations interest to do it?
My Answer:
Becasue the process in which we formed this alliance with the corps involved was actually built on a really good foundation. I now know from voice and conversation the CEO's from most of the corps in this new alliance. There is constant communication adn the corporations were all part of the decision making process up to the point where the fight began again for Venal. Respect is being earned through working together something that didn't exist before to a great degree. We are becoming Friends and that is where the difference is. The FE know as well that we abide by what we say. Hell the whole reason we said no in the end was becasue of something I said to my corp and my word held true even in the times where I felt it may have been the right decision. In the end though I guess time will tell.
14. Do you personally blame me for the NVA failure to win the war vs Foresaken Empire.
My Answer:
No Jade I do not. Nor will I. I have discussed this with you before. I actually do respect you but because of your position on the boards you are a very big target. There were many things wrong with the NVA things we are tyring to correct in this new alliance.
15. Do you believe that "forum stirring" and propaganda work was the primary cause of the NVA's inability to win fleet battles?
My Answer:
No I don't. I actually think it was more because nobody really felt tied to this alliance. Something we are working on rectifying. When your friends are in trouble you run to help them or do what you can for them. The NVA did give us friends but very rarely on a corporation level. We are changing that by putting processes in place that give whole corporations the oppurtunity to interact with each other.
16. Do you believe that if I had left the alliance entirely in Dec (rather than simply resigning) that FE would have left NVA alone?
My Answer:
No I don't. The FE want people to fight and we are right next door. This war would have continued with or without you.
17. Do you believe that the NVA was "protecting" JF?
My Answer:
Yes I do thinkt the NVA was protecting JF but not just JF alone. We were protecting Venal and Castor changed a lot of that. In fact Castor has a lot to do with why this new alliance is forming as well.
18. Do you believe that the NVA has maitained a workable defence policy since the charter was established?
My Answer:
No I don't think there was good workable defense solution that is something that is already on the table for this new alliance. This seriously detracted from the effectivness of our organization and Venal defense.
19. Do you believe rich NVA corps should help fund the defense effort to defend their mining interets?
My Answer:
Of course I do. And when you asked publicly for isk to go towards hiring mercs I gave twice what others did to show that our part should be a larger portion. RONA's total contribution to this war was about 15 Billion ISK with ships, Minerals, and ISK. We have lost and gained a lot but we did do our part towards the defense.
20. Do you believe poor NVA corps should be mandated to fight to defend those mining interests without financial support.
My Answer:
This is actually a tough question. And this is my view. I think that people in an alliance should be an effective part of that alliance and I think everyone should provide for the protection of that particular area. Even if it is one cruiser or a Frigate if they are there and giving what little they can then it is the same as the Megacorps giving Billions and Billions of ISK. You just want to see contribution that is very very important.
21. Do you believe that CDI are right to charge a 50% tax on mining using their bookmarks.
My Answer:
I read this in the log and there is a bit of confusion. CDI and RONA mined together we felt that with CDI contributing to the mine and the use of their bookmarks that a 50 50 split was fair. They were willing to help us find bookmarks of our own and even give us a couple to get started. There was never any tax for using them.
22. Do you believe I was right to share trading information with no surcharge to my fellow NVA CEO's?
My Answer:
If this is referring to the Trade Runs I think this should have been done a whole lot earlier. I didn't even know that these e
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Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.01.12 21:20:00 -
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22. Do you believe I was right to share trading information with no surcharge to my fellow NVA CEO's?
My Answer:
If this is referring to the Trade Runs I think this should have been done a whole lot earlier. I didn't even know that these existed until right before Castor was released and I even talked to you about what BP's and Assets you guys had and how your guys were making you ISK. Then agian the way the NVA was running I don't find this all to disturbing becasue the organization as a whole had a corp centric mentality.
23. Do you believe the NVA lacked effective government and common economic objectives?
My Answer:
Yes I do. The NVA had no true aims. There was no one pushing for thigns to get done and decisions were made but no follow through. Nobody knew what the NVA was about in the end other then killing the FE.
24. Do you believe I (or anyone else of JF) has misrepresented or lied about any aspect of this situation thus far expressed?
My Answer:
I think the only thing that is misrepresented is the use of Halseth's name instead of the NVA.
24B (if so which aspects)
My Answer:
Halseth, KIAHicks, and Bobby Wilson were all very influentual members of the NVA. Oberon was a big part of the politics and he took on the PR aspect when you left the picture. In the end I think he was just making statements backed by the corporations in the NVA. And I think his name was misused more than once in decisions made by the council and the NVA not just Halseth. Halseth was also not the only one to call the cease fire every corporation in the TS conversation agreed to it.
25. Do you believe Halseth Durn was right to lauch a poisonous attack on my morality and ethics in this amusingly named "truth" thread.
My Answer:
I think this has been read wrong. I think that Halseth and you have some real issues to work out and I feel that Halseth thinks himself and Oberon have a big target on their backs. I think you both have things that are incorrect and this is only going to get worse if neither one of you take the resolve to get the issue fixed.
26. Do you believe the NVA should have dealt more respectfully with this situation and asked Jericho privately to withdraw rather than making this a public slanging match?
My Answer:
As far as I know JF was told privatly and the first post about it was in fact made by you here
a full 6 hours before any public statement was made by the new alliance. Athule and 2 other members of JF were told in Private before we stated anything.
27. Do you believe JF has contributed to the war effort with ships and pilots and funding?
My Answer:
To answer this honestly I don't know Jade. I really had no idea who has contributed what. So I can't answer this question honestly.
28. Do you believe JF has ever been involved in betraying NVA principles, or charter?
My Answer:
Publicly and in my eye. No I do not. As far as what happens behind the doors of JF HQ I have no idea. As it should be.
29. Do you believe JF has ever been fallen bellow the contributary level of the majority of NVA corps in the roster?
My Answer:
That again is something I can only comment about RONA's contiribution. I don't really know any infomation about that.
30. At the last, do you believe that this entire matter is about personality and the fact that several key NVA directors and officers simpy decided they don't like Jade Constantine and wanted me out?
My Answer:
No I honestly don't believe that. I think the answer to this question has already been stated above. I think you made some enemies here in the NVA and that resulted in not bringing you over to the new alliance. Not just corp directors but in some cases whole corporations.
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Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.01.12 21:21:00 -
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Whew that took a while and that was a lot of questions. I hope these helped and I of course respect your decision to ask further questions. 
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Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.01.12 21:29:00 -
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Jade I appreaciate you comment and I look forward to clearing things up. I do hope that this does help with the situation publicly.
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Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.01.12 21:39:00 -
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Thanks for the support Tank  I will have to talk with Krullz about you. 
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Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.01.13 03:06:00 -
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38. On the trade-runs, the intel was shared quite some time before castor. And I made quite an effort to interest NVA CEOÆs in the prospect. Artegg vetoed Rona interest on the grounds that the cost and risks were too great. But I rephrase my question, since JF offered this intelligence and income stream for free to the NVA. Why then is it fair and reasonable for CDI to attempt to make a 50% profit on provision of a similar income stream.
My Answer:
I apologize and was never aware of the information that early on. And I take your word to be true. As far as the CDI deal as stated above I was talking abut between CDI and RONA. I do not know about the conversation between CDI and Jehrico.
39. On the use of the Halseth name, I take you point. But would you agree he has been the most notable and significant public advocate of these changes. (Having drafted the pro FE council doc, announced the ceasefire, announced the kicking of Jericho, and announced the formation of the TinA entity?
My Answer:
I agree with your point about being public about Oberon's decision. But he was under my orders to do the public announcment for the new alliance and my orders as well to talk with Jehrico about not being accepted into the new alliance. So once again Halseth as a victim of circumstance in the last two cases. Something I should have thought about prior to asking him to do it. Halseth I apologize for that.
40. With respect to my question ôDo you believe the NVA should have dealt more respectfully with this situation and asked Jericho privately to withdraw rather than making this a public slanging match?ö Please note the word ôaskö à as opposed to ôtellö. Since you had no council remit for the ejection of JF, do you not believe it would have been more diplomatically expedient (not to say polite) to ask us to withdraw, rather than telling us?
My Answer:
I never thought of it from that angle. I guess I would agree with in terms of the NVA. I think it would have been more diplomatic for us to tell you that you were not allowed in the new alliance sense all the corporations had by accepting this new alliance withdrew from the NVA.
41. At the last and with respect to your answer about the matter of personality. Many TinA aligned individuals have come to these forums and expressed the contrary opinion that it is basically about personality. Neither I nor Jericho are accused of any substantive failure in our commitment to the NVA, yet individuals have chosen to hurl abuse and invective and imprecations. With that mind, would you not admit that this is basically a case of scape-goating an individual for the failings of an alliance?
My Answer:
The recent posts I have seen on the forums don't seem to be directed at you as the reason for failure. The seem to be directed at your methods in sharing opinions and communicating. Not to say that you haven't been blamed. Truthfully though it doesn't seem to be a majority, I think the constant military defeats have been the primary reason for the NVA's defeat.
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Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.01.13 03:06:00 -
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Edited by: Robeyone on 13/01/2004 03:07:47
31. Do you believe that inter-corporate spying and disinformation should be allowed or disallowed between alliance partners? Will you be supporting a no-espionage rule between corporations in the TinA entity, and given that OCC and CDI have both gone on record as supporting this kind of spying, how forcefully would you be prepared to make the case.
My Answer:
Honestly I think this actually had very little effect on the lack of partnerships in this alliance. This alliance was compromised of stangers who had very few of the same goals in mine. We were never forced to speak with each other and that meant no communciation. Do I think it helped? Yes. Not to any great degree though.
32. Re the breaking of a given word. Do you accept that Rona has behaved falsely in relations to Jericho Fraction in being party to an unconstitutional kicking of my corporation from the NVA? (ie. we both signed a charter which enshrined a political process that you ignored in removing Jericho)
My Answer:
Jade I don't think I was dishonest with you. I never had any intention in hiding any of these things from you, but yes I was one of the party who in the end accepted the agreement that you should not be party to our alliance. In the end the constitution didn't matter like the past alliances such as the SPC the NVA was ended by the corporations who began her. We withdrew from the alliance and formed a new one. When we withdrew it no longer pretained to those corporations. We just did it all in a very short period of time.
33. Re the ôunanimous voteö to remove Jericho instantly. Can you please list the corporations that supported the idea and where on hand for the limited vote?
My Answer:
I can get that information yes but I do not know it with the information I had. But RONA, Oberon, CDI, Bladerunners, QI, OCC, and GODS I do know for a fact were present.
34. Can you explain how the FE proposal led you to believe that ôthat there was a closer group and organization formingö (within the NVA)?
My Answer:
Because for the first time all the corporations really began to talk to each other and really drill in on what it was they wanted out of Venal. Like I stated before this was the single most important thing that could have happened. Once we were in agreement with our moral limits and what we decided we looked at the NVA and decided that it was in no position to continue. The corps talked and discussed and figured out so much in such a short period of time. I am hoping the new corporations like Celestial are going to join us in that organization so we can continue to build those companionships with our fellow alliance corporations.
35. Re the question about you being prepared to break your word a second time, would you accept that if any of the new TinA corps should slip from the position of ôWe are becoming Friends and that is where the difference is.ö You would once again be prepared to abandon your promises and revoke this new agreement as easily as the first?
My Answer:
I don't really understand this question but I will give it a go. If we looked at the whole thing technically we never broke our word. We were looking at options outside of the NVA. The FE and NVA were looking into a possible new organziation consisting of corporations from both entities. When that would have happened the corporations would have left the NVA for this new organization. In doing so we would have had no obligation to the charter becasue we are no longer entities withing the NVA. Our word was to stick with the NVA but in the end it wasn't worth it. Like so many other corps we made a decision to move on and leave the NVA and join this new entity. Along with most of the corporations from the NVA. Cemantics I know but it is the same as leaving one company and working for another. We left the alliance that is the end of it.
36. About the NVA protecting JF, how exactly did this protection manifest?
My Answer:
RONA was a part of every single major engagement concerning the NVA up until the time of castor. Where we began operations in Pure Blind still in the protection of Venal. As JF was a member of the NVA we were protecting the "Alliance" JF was included in that.
37. On the CDI 50% I have a chatlog of the conversation in question and it is clear that we are being asked to pay 50% of mineral take for the favour of using the BM. So I ask again, in the context of everyone pitching in and helping out. And your statement ôYou just want to see contribution that is very very important.ö Does this kind of profiteering help or hinder the cooperation your consider ideal?
My Answer:
Then we are looking at two very different issues. RONA made an Agreement with CDI tha tif both corporations mined and if CDI provided the bookmarks we would spit the ore 50/50. I do not know of the conversation between CDI and Jehrico I apologize for the confusion.
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Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.01.13 20:19:00 -
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I am asking for a cease and desists for all comments to this thread from any TiNA member. There is no point in these talks, everyone needs to move forward please refrain from posting.
Thank You
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