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Mattduk
Gallente Universal Army
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:24:00 -
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Actually, I'd also like to add that in my three years of playing this game, the experience is much different now than it was in the beginning, for many reasons of course, but I truly believe that the 'we don't want any blue, we just want to pew pew' organizations are contributing greatly to the changing face of eve. In a negative way I am sad to say.
But let's be fair to them, these kinds of players do not have the patience to do anything but.
Regards Mattduk
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.06.10 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: touchvill Gyro DuAquin1.
Why do you say we just want to join the winning side? That would mean we want to join the alliance which is a blatent mistruth told by the coalition.
People assume we have it easy, we don't have a side so everyone who enters Venal more or less are considered hostiles. We have it far from easy.
Last 4 weeks We have killed 553 battleships, 6 carriers and 8 dreadnaughts. Compare that to Razor, who have a fight on their hands for their space. 298 battleships killed, 8 carriers killed and 1 dreadnaught killed. It's by no means a hit on Razor, they are still fighting, good on them, that in itself deserves respect. It does show that in comparrision how much work we have to do on a weekly basis though.
If in your eyes Triumvirate are winning in something (Dunno what we can be winning at really, we are not doing anything special) then it's through hard work and not napping up with everyone.
afaik you napped mc, because, tell me why, cause all those ppl are brilliant targets, they travel alone have no scout and think that wcs will save them from dicotrs. Napping is just a target stealer. Less naps=more targets, mostly ppl nap other ppl because they hope to get something out of this, so whats tri intrested in? But iam quiet sure that a few entietes are not happy with how the space will be split in the end, and then well see how well your coaltion is, cause imo so of you have farted on sand in this war. :D
Well about your kill stats, those are nothing but stats, cause if we would take those away which are not related to the conflict, you end up somewhere, just because a kill is on your board doenst make it anything of an achivment, as ppl tend to add mails to their board with 14 randoms and 1 of the guys from the kb owner. But stats are nothign imo, venal is a target rich envoirement and ppl do dump things, just witness that everyday in GW.
I dont say that TRI is wining, iam just saying that Tri are pretending to be on no ones side, but you a few more naps then before MC and allies showed up.
@Persh trust me its the same everywhere, when you and attack someones space serious your pretty much facing his mom, uncle, daddy and all his big brothers. Or ppl have excuses why not to fight, even when numbers are in their favor at least 2-1
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill
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Posted - 2007.06.10 14:38:00 -
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If there's anyone that shouldn't be flamed for the new north napfest (tm) then it's TRI. Those guys earned their piece of cake on their own and probably would have taken on the North themselves in due time.
I honestly doubt they will keep their naps once the north has been removed of coalition forces. If they do, then you can smack em -
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.06.10 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kyguard If there's anyone that shouldn't be flamed for the new north napfest (tm) then it's TRI. Those guys earned their piece of cake on their own and probably would have taken on the North themselves in due time.
I honestly doubt they will keep their naps once the north has been removed of coalition forces. If they do, then you can smack em
raiding space is something totaly different then conquer space, cause iam intrested how much patient ppl have when it comes to alarm clocks and pos warfare at its best.
But tbh TRI has good fighters and loads of nice ppl in their ranks.
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Ivan Kirilenkov
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.06.10 15:02:00 -
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Cleaned for off-topic posts, trolling and personal attacks.
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touchvill
Citadel of dark arts Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 15:39:00 -
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We were blue with MC on request of our good friends You What. YW were blue before they picked a side and remain blue. That does not mean we are on a side, it just means if they need us to get their backs we will. Not the rest of the alliance though.
MC now work exclusively with T.ITS who asked us for support in the start of their movement into Tenal we did that. Now we have set both MC and T.ITS to neutral. We don't want our own space yet. It will happen and when it does the people who's space we are taking will know it.
We helped Blind Beavers destroy 9 Hydra capital ships a few weeks back. Why was there no outcry then? It's the same scenario, they came and asked for our help and we gave it.
Quote: Well about your kill stats, those are nothing but stats, cause if we would take those away which are not related to the conflict, you end up somewhere, just because a kill is on your board doenst make it anything of an achivment, as ppl tend to add mails to their board with 14 randoms and 1 of the guys from the kb owner. But stats are nothign imo, venal is a target rich envoirement and ppl do dump things, just witness that everyday in GW.
The stats are not put up to brag that we killed loads because in truth we have lost more than we would normally of late. Fact remains them stats were put up to show how much more work we have to do BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ON ANY SIDE.
Quote: I dont say that TRI is wining, iam just saying that Tri are pretending to be on no ones side, but you a few more naps then before MC and allies showed up.
This makes very little sense. I will answer the first bit though as it's a bit more understandable. We are not pretending to not be on anyones side, we genuinely are not on any side and now only the numpties believe otherwise. The only alliance in all this that we are blue to is You What. We don't fly with them, they don't need our help. We turned down standings with everyone else and set T.ITS and MC Neutral. (T.ITS now are exclusively on the side of the alliance whereas at first they were not)
I will reiterate incase you missed the first million times I have said it. The only alliance involved in the conflicts which we are blue to is You What and they have been blue since way before we even joined the coalition in the first place. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |
Itzena
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.10 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kyguard If there's anyone that shouldn't be flamed for the new north napfest (tm) then it's TRI. Those guys earned their piece of cake on their own and probably would have taken on the North themselves in due time.
I honestly doubt they will keep their naps once the north has been removed of coalition forces. If they do, then you can smack em
That reminds me...anyone want to guess how long before BoB has a standings reset with the new north?
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.06.10 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: touchvill We were blue with MC on request of our good friends You What. YW were blue before they picked a side and remain blue. That does not mean we are on a side, it just means if they need us to get their backs we will. Not the rest of the alliance though.
MC now work exclusively with T.ITS who asked us for support in the start of their movement into Tenal we did that. Now we have set both MC and T.ITS to neutral. We don't want our own space yet. It will happen and when it does the people who's space we are taking will know it.
We helped Blind Beavers destroy 9 Hydra capital ships a few weeks back. Why was there no outcry then? It's the same scenario, they came and asked for our help and we gave it.
Quote: Well about your kill stats, those are nothing but stats, cause if we would take those away which are not related to the conflict, you end up somewhere, just because a kill is on your board doenst make it anything of an achivment, as ppl tend to add mails to their board with 14 randoms and 1 of the guys from the kb owner. But stats are nothign imo, venal is a target rich envoirement and ppl do dump things, just witness that everyday in GW.
The stats are not put up to brag that we killed loads because in truth we have lost more than we would normally of late. Fact remains them stats were put up to show how much more work we have to do BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ON ANY SIDE.
Quote: I dont say that TRI is wining, iam just saying that Tri are pretending to be on no ones side, but you a few more naps then before MC and allies showed up.
This makes very little sense. I will answer the first bit though as it's a bit more understandable. We are not pretending to not be on anyones side, we genuinely are not on any side and now only the numpties believe otherwise. The only alliance in all this that we are blue to is You What. We don't fly with them, they don't need our help. We turned down standings with everyone else and set T.ITS and MC Neutral. (T.ITS now are exclusively on the side of the alliance whereas at first they were not)
I will reiterate incase you missed the first million times I have said it. The only alliance involved in the conflicts which we are blue to is You What and they have been blue since way before we even joined the coalition in the first place.
ok good that we cleared that again.
And i can confirm that standing on no ones side brings more kills :D
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touchvill
Citadel of dark arts Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 16:01:00 -
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If we had picked a side, I don't think we would get even half the kills we do now. It's such a target rich enviroment, especially sitting smack in the middle of one of the largest warzones.
It's not always easy to fight all the gangs that show up at random times. We do our best though to entertain. Things should get interesting too with Pandemic Legion moving into H-PA.
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Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.10 17:12:00 -
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Perhaps I've completely missed the point of why the North was called a NAPfest?
Honestly, as far as I can figure, the primary reason the term came about was due to the lack of general conflict there in comparison to the South. The term was somewhat derogatory in nature because the belief was that with a lack of conflict was a resulting lack of combat experience for most of the non-dedicated pvp pilots, hence making the North weaker by their own design; especially since many talented pvpers left the North because they couldn't get a decent fight close to home.
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.10 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Avernus Perhaps I've completely missed the point of why the North was called a NAPfest?
Honestly, as far as I can figure, the primary reason the term came about was due to the lack of general conflict there in comparison to the South. The term was somewhat derogatory in nature because the belief was that with a lack of conflict was a resulting lack of combat experience for most of the non-dedicated pvp pilots, hence making the North weaker by their own design; especially since many talented pvpers left the North because they couldn't get a decent fight close to home.
ya - its proven that naps suck... I will say this though if u know were to look there are plenty of hardcore pvpers up north. you just wont find them in the traditional alliance package...
all those pvpers that left the north were traditionally characters that left the south to look for new action and opportunity. Once they came up north and accomplished goals/contracts then they decided to head back south to the comfort of homeland...
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.06.10 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: touchvill If we had picked a side, I don't think we would get even half the kills we do now. It's such a target rich enviroment, especially sitting smack in the middle of one of the largest warzones.
It's not always easy to fight all the gangs that show up at random times. We do our best though to entertain. Things should get interesting too with Pandemic Legion moving into H-PA.
Let's hope the fun continues.
tbh thats the best thing ppl can do. its just loggin in, fighting switching ship, update clone and so on :D
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Velvet69
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.11 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Zagum Darkfin To the OP, do you know what NAP means???
Ok boys and girls here is a politcial lesson on packs or agreements. Non-Aggression Pack (NAP for the tards) Treaty only means if you don't shoot me I don't shoot you. THAT IS IT. It does NOT address common goals, trade, corp relationships, leaderships and roles, rules and regulations. A NAP just simply means you agree not to fight, end of story, move on.
There are Hundreds of OTHER Kinds of political relationships corps can have between themselves. There are stronger forms of "Alliances and Coalitions" that go far beyond a simple NAP. You have Owner/Tenant packs, military alliance packs, trade packs, political packs, defensive agreements etc. etc. that all can govern how corps and people behave among each other.
Trying to claim BOB is a napfeast means you don't have a clue what the hell you are talking about or understand the political process of Bob and friends. Try again, Next please!!
WTS Non-Aggression Pack : contains 10 party hats, 20 party poppers, 1 pack of jelly and a comedy clown.
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Sho KuZa
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Posted - 2007.06.11 00:19:00 -
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pack...t?
I dunno!
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pershphanie
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.06.11 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Itzena
That reminds me...anyone want to guess how long before BoB has a standings reset with the new north?
We aren't even + with bob in the first place. Dunno what bob has to do with it really. Killing northerners and making land grabs is 4tw. Doesn't really involve bob much at all.
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