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Dionisius
Gallente
Fallen Lords
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:19:00 -
[31]
What about this,
3 Major alliance leaders
3 Non major alliance leaders and alts from major alliance leaders
3 Guys from other alliances and alts from the major alliance leaders alts.
3 Random guys from piracy, mercs, rp comunity.
And better yet, all the people voting for the 3 first guys just because they look cool and respected.
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What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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CCP kieron
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:27:00 -
[32]
Unless I've been mislead by nearly every calendar I remember looking at, Sunday is the first day of the week.  The aforementioned blog will be published before 16 June, 2007.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online, CCP Games
Email/Netfang
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Felysta Sandorn
Caldari
System-Lords
E N I G M A
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:30:00 -
[33]
 Originally by: CCP kieron
Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...
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I lol'd... 
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Kazuo Ishiguro
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:31:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Arushia
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Not mine - the last line doesn't scan terribly well. It needs one more syllable to fit properly. Any ideas?
Change Iceland to Reykjavfk?
It's got the right number of syllables, but the stress on the 'ja' syllable is wrong. Maybe 'dark Iceland' instead of 'Iceland'?
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:34:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Patch86
Edited by: Patch86 on 10/06/2007 11:14:29
Originally by: Amarria Black
Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: Kappas.
Originally by: CCP kieron
There will be a dev blog published by the end of the week with more information about the program later this week. As for the concerns of Developer alts holding seats on the council, to do so would be a conflict of interest. CCP staff will not hold council seats.
Isn't today the end of the week? 
It's the end of a week. Kieron didn't say which week it'd be at the end of
Actually, he did. Read your own quote. Later this week.
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Ho hum, spoil my fun why don't you. Clearly in need of more caffeine before my forum whoring can begin proper. To the coffee mobile!
Hehe, I lay one Troll card face down on the playing field and end my turn. -_^
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:42:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Patch86 on 10/06/2007 11:41:37
Originally by: CCP kieron
Unless I've been mislead by nearly every calendar I remember looking at, Sunday is the first day of the week. The aforementioned blog will be published before 16 June, 2007.
I'll see EVERY CALENDAR YOU'VE EVER LOOKED AT, and raise you one Wikipedia:
Originally by: Wikipedia
Monday is often held to be the first day of the week. This is the case in most of Europe, parts of Africa, Australia, and South America. In Asia û because the western calendar system was introduced only during the 20th century û many languages refer to Monday as the "day of the beginning". For example, Monday is xingqi yi (星期一) in Chinese, meaning day one of the week. The international standard, ISO 8601, defines Monday as the first day of the week.
Also, double click your Windows clock and check out which day is number one
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Ray McCormack
BIG
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:44:00 -
[37]
Originally by: CCP kieron
As for the concerns of Developer alts holding seats on the council, to do so would be a conflict of interest.
Yes, but think of the travel time you could save.
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ForceM
Gallente
POS Builder Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 12:02:00 -
[38]
Edited by: ForceM on 10/06/2007 12:02:10
Originally by: Patch86
Edited by: Patch86 on 10/06/2007 11:41:37
Originally by: CCP kieron
Unless I've been mislead by nearly every calendar I remember looking at, Sunday is the first day of the week. The aforementioned blog will be published before 16 June, 2007.
I'll see EVERY CALENDAR YOU'VE EVER LOOKED AT, and raise you one Wikipedia:
Originally by: Wikipedia
Monday is often held to be the first day of the week. This is the case in most of Europe, parts of Africa, Australia, and South America. In Asia û because the western calendar system was introduced only during the 20th century û many languages refer to Monday as the "day of the beginning". For example, Monday is xingqi yi (星期一) in Chinese, meaning day one of the week. The international standard, ISO 8601, defines Monday as the first day of the week.
Also, double click your Windows clock and check out which day is number one
Ill see your "every calendar" and your wikipedia and rais you with ANOTHER wikepedia :)
Originally by: Wikipedia who knows better
Sunday is the day of the week between Saturday and Monday. In the Judaeo-Christian tradition it is the first day of the week. Since the second half of the 20th century it has been counted as the seventh day of the week throughout Europe. In a number of countries both counts run side by side. In Slavic languages Sunday is both the first and seventh days of the week: It is first because Wednesday is literally the "middle" of the week, while it is seventh because Tuesday, Thursday and Friday are literally the "second", "fourth" and "fifth" days of the week.
Sunday is considered a holiday in most countries of the world and as part of the weekend. Only countries influenced by Islamic (or Jewish) culture often have Friday (or Saturday) as a weekly holiday instead.
The Gregorian calendar repeats every 400 years, and no century starts on a Sunday. The Jewish New Year never falls on a Sunday. Any month beginning on a Sunday will contain a Friday the 13th.
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Miriyana
Gallente
Galactic Savings and Investments
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Posted - 2007.06.10 12:35:00 -
[39]
Originally by: CCP kieron
Unless I've been mislead by nearly every calendar I remember looking at, Sunday is the first day of the week. The aforementioned blog will be published before 16 June, 2007.
Whuuuuut!?
Mondays, MONDAYS!!
Saturday and Sunday are the WEEKEND
Not the "one day is the weekend, the other the week start"
kay?
p.s. dont hax me
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Damien Smith
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 12:40:00 -
[40]
Oh god, here we go again.
Monday is the first day of the week. 0.99999r=1 and the plane will take off.
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Kappas.
Galaxy Punks
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Posted - 2007.06.10 12:40:00 -
[41]
I'd always classed monday as the first day of the week, as sunday is always written as day 7...
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 12:41:00 -
[42]
Originally by: ForceM
Ill see your "every calendar" and your wikipedia and rais you with ANOTHER wikepedia :)
Ooooh, touche good sir!
Also, almost missed it, but: Hi Kappas! \o/
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Raem Civrie
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.10 13:08:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Raem Civrie on 10/06/2007 13:07:34
Originally by: A Ma
Edited by: A Ma on 10/06/2007 01:16:14
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The one problem is that, lets say the community nominates 20 people and CCP "removes" 3 from the list... suddenly we know they have ISD alts or the like, and CCP doesn't want that either.
Those 3 might also have a bad record for being petitioned, hard to control with out it being a dead give away, agreed.
But CCP could also easily instruct their employees and the ISD members to detract themselves from the vote with a simple "not enough time so I can not allow myself to be nominated" comment.
That's opening right up for a "If you have forum warning, no nomination" rule.
Which would be incredibly stupid.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.10 13:12:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/06/2007 13:11:30
Originally by: Raem Civrie
Originally by: A Ma
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The one problem is that, lets say the community nominates 20 people and CCP "removes" 3 from the list... suddenly we know they have ISD alts or the like, and CCP doesn't want that either.
Those 3 might also have a bad record for being petitioned, hard to control with out it being a dead give away, agreed.
But CCP could also easily instruct their employees and the ISD members to detract themselves from the vote with a simple "not enough time so I can not allow myself to be nominated" comment.
That's opening right up for a "If you have forum warning, no nomination" rule.
Which would be incredibly stupid.
Yes, that is absurd. Anyone who has posted on the forums a lot is almost guaranteed to have boatloads of warnings and bans, since they hand them out very loosely. Such a rule would likely rule out a number of people who are important figures in-game also; not just forum hoes.
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Su'butai
Minmatar
Aterizon Capital
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Posted - 2007.06.10 13:32:00 -
[45]
Originally by: ForceM
Ill see your "every calendar" and your wikipedia and rais you with ANOTHER wikepedia :)
Originally by: Wikipedia who knows better
Sunday is the day of the week between Saturday and Monday. In the Judaeo-Christian tradition it is the first day of the week. Since the second half of the 20th century it has been counted as the seventh day of the week throughout Europe. In a number of countries both counts run side by side. In Slavic languages Sunday is both the first and seventh days of the week: It is first because Wednesday is literally the "middle" of the week, while it is seventh because Tuesday, Thursday and Friday are literally the "second", "fourth" and "fifth" days of the week.
Sunday is considered a holiday in most countries of the world and as part of the weekend. Only countries influenced by Islamic (or Jewish) culture often have Friday (or Saturday) as a weekly holiday instead.
The Gregorian calendar repeats every 400 years, and no century starts on a Sunday. The Jewish New Year never falls on a Sunday. Any month beginning on a Sunday will contain a Friday the 13th.
Altering the bolding on your wikipedia attempt.
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von Rupert
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Posted - 2007.06.10 13:46:00 -
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In Germany our first day of the week is Monday. Applies to the rest of europe and Africa too.
Someone said Judeo-Christian tradition..
In Christian tradition, Monday is always the first day of the week. Because on Sunday, the last day of creation, the Lord rested!
I don't know the calender of jews, maybe their 1st day is sunday. /me shrugs
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Astarte Nosferatu
MBN Holding Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.10 13:51:00 -
[47]
Originally by: CCP kieron
Unless I've been mislead by nearly every calendar I remember looking at, Sunday is the first day of the week.
You have been mislead by nearly every calender you remember looking at.
What's the logic behind having Sunday as the first day of the week anyways? I've never understood that to be honest.
Originally by: Dianabolic
I was sworn to absolute secrecy by CCP
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Ragel Tropxe
The Older Gamers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.10 14:03:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Ragel Tropxe on 10/06/2007 14:06:48
In my opinion, out-of-game RL experience auditing corporate governance issues (SarbOx auditors / experienced auditors) would be very useful to this process. Audit is a skill, and its a skill which needs experience to use well
In game qualifications are important, but some very good, well-trained people (and they will be out there - I know one who plays) would provide better assurance to the customer base and other stakeholders.
edit - trained, experienced people would also have the benefit of helping CCP to develop their CG processes.
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Tareen Kashaar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.06.10 14:10:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Ragel Tropxe
Edited by: Ragel Tropxe on 10/06/2007 14:06:48
In my opinion, out-of-game RL experience auditing corporate governance issues (SarbOx auditors / experienced auditors) would be very useful to this process. Audit is a skill, and its a skill which needs experience to use well
In game qualifications are important, but some very good, well-trained people (and they will be out there - I know one who plays) would provide better assurance to the customer base and other stakeholders.
edit - trained, experienced people would also have the benefit of helping CCP to develop their CG processes.
Agreed.
This whole elections thing will be very interesting to watch. Not sure why there should be nominations by the community at all though, it would just boil down to the most well known attention *****s then. But I'm certain that there will be a good way to do it.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.10 14:12:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Tareen Kashaar
Originally by: Ragel Tropxe
Edited by: Ragel Tropxe on 10/06/2007 14:06:48
In my opinion, out-of-game RL experience auditing corporate governance issues (SarbOx auditors / experienced auditors) would be very useful to this process. Audit is a skill, and its a skill which needs experience to use well
In game qualifications are important, but some very good, well-trained people (and they will be out there - I know one who plays) would provide better assurance to the customer base and other stakeholders.
edit - trained, experienced people would also have the benefit of helping CCP to develop their CG processes.
Agreed.
This whole elections thing will be very interesting to watch. Not sure why there should be nominations by the community at all though, it would just boil down to the most well known attention *****s then. But I'm certain that there will be a good way to do it.
I think from what Kieron said earlier auditing skill is not supposed to be required at all; they're not going to be giving any of these people database access or anything.
I do agree that at least one or two of the people should have auditing experience, however. They can help guide the rest of the people involved and give expert advice.
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Helison
Gallente
Times of Ancar
THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2007.06.10 14:14:00 -
[51]
Originally by: von Rupert
In Germany our first day of the week is Monday. Applies to the rest of europe and Africa too.
Should be correct.
Quote:
Someone said Judeo-Christian tradition..
In Christian tradition, Monday is always the first day of the week. Because on Sunday, the last day of creation, the Lord rested!
Sorry, this is not correct. The last day of creation according to the bible was shabbat, which is our saturday. In the Christian tradition, the resurrection of Jesus was on the first day of the weak, which was sunday. Because of this the "holy day" of the week shifted for Christians from saturday to sunday. But the first day of the week for all religious activities remained sunday.
In the last century work was more important than religion in the western tradition and the start of the week was moved to the start of the working-week (monday).
Quote:
I don't know the calender of jews, maybe their 1st day is sunday. /me shrugs
It is, but the "holy day" is saturday.
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Jotan Veer
HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2007.06.10 14:14:00 -
[52]
Originally by: CCP kieron
Unless I've been mislead by nearly every calendar I remember looking at, Sunday is the first day of the week. The aforementioned blog will be published before 16 June, 2007.
Monday is the start of the week in Hungary for example, please be specific next time
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Kormorant
Gallente
Oneirocritica Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 14:14:00 -
[53]
The way things stand until they are clarified, is that reps will be voted in. That means at least one Goon in due to their numbers (if they vote for themselves...)
Any forums &*ores should not get in just because they are good at self promotion.
Hopefully CCP will want a modicum of professionalism and not some either spotty teenager or jobless timewaster...
I hope they have a minimum participation level in voting, because if just 30% vote, then the entire thing should be cancelled. Too many egos as it is who are completely clueless...
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Ragel Tropxe
The Older Gamers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.10 14:16:00 -
[54]
Agree with that DS
Whomever is chosen shouldn't need access to the database (if they focused on this then they haven't realised the main problems with CG failures)
The biggest problems come from failure of process, hence why most progressive audit looks at risks surrounding processes (or lack of them)
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UKM Thorgrim
Caldari
Black Lance
NBSI Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 14:41:00 -
[55]
Edited by: UKM Thorgrim on 10/06/2007 14:40:25
the Whole thing is a damage, limitation Stunt.
TO LATE.......
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Mysticaa
Gallente
Fringe Roamers of Goa
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Posted - 2007.06.10 14:57:00 -
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Frankly no member of a 0.0 alliance should be a member of this council. Every acusation of Dev misconduct has centered around 0.0 politics (primarily). Because of this any member of a 0.0 alliance would be biased twords that particular alliance.
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"TANK CEO!!!"
Quick Wrangler, to the Banmobile!!!
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.06.10 15:28:00 -
[57]
Originally by: A Ma
Grey council ?? No, NEVER 
I hereby declare myself to be part of the Worker caste.
MP
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Arushia
Nova Labs
Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.06.10 21:08:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Patch86
Also, double click your Windows clock and check out which day is number one
My comp is set to Engligh:US, and displays Sunday as first of the week.
There is no one standard, it's region-dependant. Get over it.
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Weyoun 1
Gallente
Soviet Star Federation
Celestial Frontier
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Posted - 2007.06.10 22:49:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Arushia
Originally by: Patch86
Also, double click your Windows clock and check out which day is number one
My comp is set to Engligh:US, and displays Sunday as first of the week.
There is no one standard, it's region-dependant. Get over it.
Originally by: Wikipedia
Monday is often held to be the first day of the week. This is the case in most of Europe, parts of Africa, Australia, and South America. In Asia û because the western calendar system was introduced only during the 20th century û many languages refer to Monday as the "day of the beginning". For example, Monday is xingqi yi (星期一) in Chinese, meaning day one of the week. The international standard, ISO 8601, defines Monday as the first day of the week.
Looks like YOU need to "GET OVER IT!"
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Camilo Cienfuegos
EP0CH
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Posted - 2007.06.10 22:51:00 -
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Frankly no member of a 0.0 alliance should be a member of this council. Every acusation of Dev misconduct has centered around 0.0 politics (primarily). Because of this any member of a 0.0 alliance would be biased twords that particular alliance.
We're not electing a government here folks, we're not looking to try and get "proportional representation" or any such nonsense - and even if we could, it wouldn't last long: What if alliance member 1 decides he's ****ed off with his current eve-life and joins alliance 2 instead? what if alliance 3 disbands and goes back to empire? Would the member still be "representative" of the community for which he was selected?
The closest analogy I can think of would be that of Jury Service. It's something we may all end up doing at one point or another, with the names are picked at pseudo-random from the user database and no individual able to do it more than once over a specified period.
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