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Minigin Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.10 00:50:00 - [1] not a major battle but a fun one... This morning Hydra Intel channels began to report an incoming Blind Beaver/Eternal rising/ESA gang of about 25 heading up the p3 pipe towards c-f. At the time, Hydra had a small gang of about 10 roaming cruisers and battle cruisers. Realising we where no match for such a huge force we retreated to c-f and put out the call for the alliance members to get safe and join the gang. By this time the hostile fleet had moved 1 jump out from us. However by now we had 45 members in gang. We where still cautious however as we realised that they still had the potential to win the day as they had come rolling pretty heavy. They also had 2 logistics cruisers with them. The hostile fleet split into two squads. Their interceptors and force recons moved to the c-f station and harassed members trying to dock and undock, while the heavy hitters remained on the gate ready to jump into c-f. It was at this stage that we made our move. We bubbled the gate and warped in. The battle raged for what seemed to be an eternityà however battle logs indicate it was more like 20 mins ;p. We attempted to primary the logistics cruisers but they proved extremely slippery >_>. Primaries where calledà hostiles went downà friendlies went downà people where warping in and out like crazy. Lag was present but not horribleà In the end Hydra held the fieldà there where however heavy losses on both sides. Hydra fielded 45ish ships. Losses on the KB a few hours after the engagement show 18 losses. Mix of T1 cruisers BCÆs and BSÆs Hostile gang fielded 25ish ships and lost 19. Mix of t2 frigs, recons and a few heavier ships. Thanks to Blind Beavers, ESA and Eternal rising on a great fight. YouÆve proved yourselves great opponents. It was a lot of fun.
Minigin Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.10 02:28:00 - [2] Originally by: Danari Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all. tbh... it sounds like your a tad bitter... however your stance on this is very hypocritcal if i was to take you seriously. was it not triumverate that called in25 capital class ships to destroy 2 dreadnoughts in p3? so is it then fair to say tri will not engage in a capital battle with hydra unless they have 4 times the number of caps? please dont misunderstand me... i dont think this is at all true but it shows that your stance on this lacks logic. Also i would point out that "even" fights are extreamly hard to find... even even by numbers shiptypes and fittings make a differeance... T1 will never = T2, so for an alliance that cant all fly out in well fitted t2 ships numbers will always be needed. People have begun to appreciate this... everyone but you apparently.
Minigin Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.10 04:43:00 - [3] Edited by: Minigin on 10/06/2007 04:47:01 Originally by: VoYvod Edited by: VoYvod on 10/06/2007 04:25:46 Originally by: Minigin Originally by: Danari Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all. tbh... it sounds like your a tad bitter... however your stance on this is very hypocritcal if i was to take you seriously. was it not triumverate that called in25 capital class ships to destroy 2 dreadnoughts in p3? so is it then fair to say tri will not engage in a capital battle with hydra unless they have 4 times the number of caps? please dont misunderstand me... i dont think this is at all true but it shows that your stance on this lacks logic. 1st off lets think real hard why there were so many tri cap ships ... oh thats right tri was defending a pos .. so that amount of capital ships for that kind of op isnt really that ridiculous .. plus you 4got to mention the support fleet that hydra/friends and what tri had , and there were more than 2 dreads to shoot at so my question to you is , where is your logic?[/b][/b] You seem bitter edit: spelling 1) yes eventualy there where more dreads to shoot at... but inital attack was made by two... and you had no way of knowing aobut the others 2) "now lets think real hard about this... oh thats right... hydra was deffending its home system... thats why they had so many ships..." 3) so my question to you is... when will you realise you are making no sense and shutup? edit: and no not bitter... just responding to your earlier comment...
Minigin Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.10 08:01:00 - [4] Originally by: Danari Bring whatever numbers you want, that wasn't the point. The point was you can always count on Hydra to underperform, and your post illustrates this case in point perfectly. If I were in an engagement and my double numbers managed to just break even, yeah, the last thing I'd do would be to publicize it. Jeez. look here you! i posted this because it was alot of fun... and this is a game! your post reflects your attitude... you have to be awesome at a game to have fun with it... also about numbers... here is somthing to think about... i would engage 3 T1 frigs in my ishkur any day... why? Just because you are outnumbered... it doesnt mean you will be outgunned.
Minigin Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.10 09:53:00 - [5] Originally by: Chirinako If Tri had 25 dreads there do you expect them to just send out 2? when will you realise you are making no sense? i think thats half my point... if we had the numbers why wouldnt we use them. I have no problem with the number of caps tri brought nor have i ever...(when i said it last time it was to illustrate my point) Originally by: Kai page Sounds like a good fight mate, hydra always bring the good figths when i've been down to c-f. stop the smack and respect it for what it is a bit of fun. agreed. it was alot of fun and thats whats important.
Minigin Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.10 11:37:00 - [6] what the hell is wrong with so many of you!!!!!!!! this was a fun battle... this is in no way the propaganda post that you are making it out to be... it does not need contextualisation... and frankly mcclane ide point out if we where to truley contextualise, your loss of a carrier would have to give us more of an idea on how things work in c-f i am pretty disapointed that so many people lacked the maturity to see that this was in no way a smack/flame/propaganda thread but it has been dragged down that path, my presence in a thread... while usualy is followed by smack and flames doesnt have to be.
Minigin Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.10 11:45:00 - [7] Originally by: Splagada Originally by: Crazy Tasty Wish I could have been there, logged on right after, everyone said it was a awesome fight. Same here Nice report!!! glad it's civil too lol :p yes well im trying my best here >_>
Minigin Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.10 12:28:00 - [8] Originally by: Marvn Riley Originally by: Minigin Originally by: Splagada Originally by: Crazy Tasty Wish I could have been there, logged on right after, everyone said it was a awesome fight. Same here Nice report!!! glad it's civil too lol :p yes well im trying my best here >_> If the ones who lost ships are smiling in the end; that is enough. Screw numerics, screw statistics, to hell with all that. Can't be bothered with it. I'm too busy smiling. Marvn o7 it is an honour to fight people with such a great attitude. its that "screw it we are going in" attitude that gets these good fights. EVE would be a better place if more people where like you. o7o7o7
Minigin Ganja Labs	Posted - 2007.06.13 06:39:00 - [9] Originally by: Duff Man Grats on the Win Minigin! As for you bloody smacktards in here talking about bigger numbers blah blah blah. If you attack someone that can bring 3 x more active pilots into a battle than you, be prepared to deal with it. This crap about (Oh whine, they have to field double numbers to get even kills) is nonsense. Two of the most important factors that contribute to making an alliance strong as well as worthwhile are: 1) Pilots getting into ships and engaging in the first place. The number of alliances that I've been in where you call for people to X up when hostiles arrive where all of a sudden 80% of the players are (afk), or just silent.... /sigh - I hated being in those... 2) PvP Experience, and without stating anymore about this being as obvious as this is, this doesn't happen without point 1.. So, regardless of other circumstances, Hydra fielded the pilots, and they held the field - Hats off to them. thanks for the kind words and long time no see again ;p. how have you been???? MINIGIN! now posting in "limegreen"

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