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illusha
Ichiro Edgar Martinez
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Posted - 2007.06.10 03:32:00 -
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My computer shuts down when I play eve, it usually takes 5-20 minutes of eve being on and it shuts down. It takes about 2-5 minutes for me to be able to turn it on because for some reason it won't turn on immediately. This problem has been going on for a week or 2 now and I've lost a couple of ships because of it. The only other program it does it with is a math program that I installed with a cd. Sometimes the computer restarts after I login my computer account. My computer works fine with other games like Rome Total War, and it works fine when I surf the web.
About a week ago, it kept asking me if I wanted to check my harddrives after rebooting, it constantly did that. I checked my computer for viruses and found none. I don't know if this is because of eve or maybe its a hardware problem but I was hoping someone who had the same problem could help me out, I would really appreciate it.
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Siege
Minmatar
Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2007.06.10 03:46:00 -
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Might be temperature induced. Eve run at 100% CPU pretty much from the point where you enter your password, and if the condition of your CPU fan or thermal paste has deteriorated, the computer will shut itself down to protect the CPU from melting. The problem tends to appear in the spring/summer, as the ambient air temp rises along with the humidity, further reducing cooling ability. Factory CPU coolers are VERY vulnerable to this problem. Rome may actually have LESS demand on the CPU, even though it is graphically more intensive, it also puts much more of the load on the graphic card as opposed to the motherboard CPU.
I'd run a temp monitor program and see what CPU temps you are looking at. Mine always wanted to reset at 65C until I upgraded the heatsink. If it's something you are capable of I'd get in there and clean out the CPU cooler as well as possibly re-apply some new thermal paste in there.
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Celvice Klein
The Hand Trade Alliance
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 06:13:00 -
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What he said. I had similar problems, raised the shutdown temp, problem solved. 'course there's now a good chance that Ill burn out the hardware, but meh.
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Neo Providence
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Posted - 2007.06.10 15:22:00 -
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if it is a laptop, u can get a special stand that have a fan installed on it. this will definitly cool your labtop. I had the same problem, but this was my solution. a little on the price size, but hey...it works. 
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annoing
Amarr
MisFunk Inc.
Frontline.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 22:47:00 -
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 Originally by: illusha
About a week ago, it kept asking me if I wanted to check my harddrives after rebooting, it constantly did that.
1) Your hard-drive could be on the way out. Press f9 on boot and do a chkdsk scan of your hard-drives for any sector faults.
2) Check the power leads to the HDD, if they are loose, it can cause this.
3) If you have a removeable HDD tray make sure it is fitted correctly and preferably screwed in. If it is loose, it causes this.
4) Do you have an airflow over your HDD's? If not, get a fan and do it now. Overheating will cause reboot and automatic disk scans. Too many reboots from this and your HDD will stop completely. A 40mm fan is less than ú5 and a double-lead to fit it (if you dont have enough PSU leads) costs 99p. ú40 for HDD or ú5.99 to save it?
Dont forget to clean your pc once a month, dont forget to re-install windows once a quarter and dont forget to defrag once a week :) good luck
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Equinox WhiteWolf
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Posted - 2007.06.11 04:46:00 -
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I had this same issue while playing today. Was on for awhile, and my computer shut down. This was NOT due to my hard drive going out, or my CPU overheating. I know this for a fact. One the hard drive is brand new, two my computer does not have temp problems. I build my own systems and cooling is one of the more important aspects for me. Anyway I booted it back up and it worked fine for awhile. Then a few minutes ago it said connection lost and booted me to desktop, tried to reconnect and said server status was unknown. Shut down eve and restarted it, then it let me sign on. Anyone heared what the deal is lately?
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annoing
Amarr
MisFunk Inc.
Frontline.
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Posted - 2007.06.11 08:01:00 -
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Yours sounds like a different problem to his. Could yours be a sound related crash? I build my own systems too so we know where we stand 
8/10 system crashes during game play are sound related. Very few are hard-ware. The thread owners sounds hard-ware, unlike yours.
Try the following as it wont take long to do and will do no harm to your system if it doesnt work:
OnBoard sound cards - do you have latest drivers? Have you installed lately any new game or sound device (mp3 player etc?)? This could have caused a conflict with the Eve sound drivers. Could your sound drivers be corrupted in any way due to age or anything else? If so, just re-install drivers.
Sound-Card - Age? Any known issues between their drivers and the game? -check card manufacturers webby forums for any known issues and workarounds. Again, have drivers become corrupted over time or due to installing anything else? Its easy enough to re-install sound drivers.
Good luck
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Jacky Danielson
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Posted - 2007.06.11 15:08:00 -
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My computer did the same thing after I had turned up my memory timings one notch faster, turning down a setting fixed the crashing.
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Duke Kessler
Caldari
Early Assault Recon League
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Posted - 2007.06.17 09:13:00 -
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My computer was having the same shut down issue that you are describing. I build my own system and it has a duel core. The problems really started hapening right after Revilations 1 came out. While there were other things causing some of the CTD's, the issue of the computer shutting down was definately heat related. I pulled my system apart, blew everything out and reapplied thermal paste to the CPU. Like others have said, run a heat detection program and see what your temp is running at. At the very least blow all the dust out of your system
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Odinegras
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Posted - 2007.06.18 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Providence
if it is a laptop, u can get a special stand that have a fan installed on it. this will definitly cool your labtop. I had the same problem, but this was my solution. a little on the price size, but hey...it works.
Cake Equipment Online Shop
I use something similar to this to lift my laptop up and help it keep cool. i think i paid ú3 (about $6) in the uk for a cheapo one and it helps no end, no more soft laptop casing for me (yes it was getting that hot the case was starting to melt) ohh and make sure you check the fans arent bunged up :D
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illusha
Ichiro Edgar Martinez
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Posted - 2007.07.04 20:24:00 -
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Just a little update. I noticed that one of my fans in my computer wasn't working so I checked it out. The jumper cable that connected my fan in my computer was disconnected and I connected it, it worked. Everything worked fine and the problem went away for a couple of weeks but now its come back.
Now at startup, I get asked in a blue screen if I want to do a disk check which it recommends. I've let it done it a lot of times but it won't stop asking me so I think one of my harddrives are broken. The problem of the computer shutting down while playing eve has returned, not sure what to do but I'll try some of your suggestions this time and give you an update. Thanks for your help.
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Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.07.08 03:03:00 -
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all the overheating may have damaged a computer part. Download and run Memtest86+ off a CD to check memory, then run SP2004 to test your CPU. And lastly try 3dMark to see if its your graphics card. This should help you narrow down the problem.
http://www.memtest.org/
http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/beta2.htm
http://www.futuremark.com/download/
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illusha
Ichiro Edgar Martinez
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Posted - 2007.07.18 08:46:00 -
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I found out the problem. My cpu is being overheated and thats why its shutting down. It starts at about 50F on startup and goes to 90F which is when it shuts down. What I did to fix it is removed one of my side panels of the case which contained a fan and put a big fan (its about 3ft or something) next to it. The new fan is very loud and its not a permanent fix, I hope to get something else to fix it. Anyone have any suggestions? Adding a new heatsink? putting in my panel sized fans?
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Digaxector
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Posted - 2007.07.18 10:38:00 -
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Before I go further, only do the following if you are comfortable that you know enough about your hardware.
The problem definitely sounds temp related. What you have to do is find out why.
You mentioned your pc CPU starts are 50F and turns off at 90F. This is seems very very low. If you actually mean it's 50C and 90C, then indeed this is extremely high. Most CPUs will fry at 90 degrees C.
Now normally this is directly caused by failure of the CPU's own fan, the one that sits on top of the heatsink, which in turn sits on top of the CPU. When you mentioned one of your fans had stopped working, was it this one or one of the others ? If it was this one, then it is possible that your CPU is now damaged and you may be in the market for a new one.
If the fan is still working, is it perhaps making a noise, like it is grinding? If yes, it would be advisable to purchase a new fan and heatsink (even just a new fan if you want, but if you going to spend the money then might as well do both.)
This will mean that you must remove the old heatsink and fan, clean the top of the CPU (to remove all the thermal grease/paste/adhesives). There are special cleaners for this but there are all sorts of household cleaners that can do the job just as well. Search on any overclocking site for information on this (http://www.overclockers.co.uk - then click forums , CPU)
When you have cleaned the CPU and have the new heatsink/fan ready, refit it to the top and make sure it fits properly on top. If the new heatsink does not come with thermal paste, I sugeest purchasing some, arctic silver is generally considered the best stuff to use. Look on the sections on the overclocking sites to see the cost.
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illusha
Ichiro Edgar Martinez
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Posted - 2007.07.18 15:32:00 -
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Yes, its C instead of F. I thought if it was C then it was way too high because even the weather isn't close to that temperature but it definitely showed C in my cpu temperature monitering program. The fan that stopped isn't the cpu fan, its the fan in the side panel and I don't hear any grinding noises.
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San Badgeros
Gallente
EntroPrelatial Vanguard
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Posted - 2007.07.18 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: San Badgeros on 18/07/2007 22:42:46
Im having almost exactly the same problem with my PC, playing EVE results in a complete PC shutdown and reboot, frustrating to say the least. What I'll say next will prolly sound the strangest: it only happens when I'm running combat missions. I can mine, courier, cross countless systems, browse markets, contracts the works. At the slightest sniff of combat, the PC shuts down and reboots. One of the previous replies seems like it might make sense here re the amount of work the processor has to do and the increase in temp that follows. Combat is prolly more CPU intensive than say mining, especially with regard to data from external sources. However I'll try some of the cleaning solutions stated here and see what happens.
As a side note...I have changed no hardware, but i have recently had my DSL line upgraded by AOL because I'm a loyal subscriber (or just too lazy to change ISPs) but I'm still using a 3 year old DSL modem. We have also had a lot of thunderstorms recently, could something nasty have crawled up my power/phone lines to cause the PC to behave like this? (Unlikely, as this problems doesnt occur with any other software at all)
Regards
SB <---Tech Newbie
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illusha
Ichiro Edgar Martinez
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Posted - 2007.07.19 06:44:00 -
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Have you measured the temperature of your cpu while eve is running and when its not running? When you are in combat and when you are not in combat?
I use Speedfan, this is the website. http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
Easy to use and install. Your computer should shut down somewhere around 90C, keep checking if it does.
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San Badgeros
Gallente
EntroPrelatial Vanguard
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Posted - 2007.07.19 10:52:00 -
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Installed Motherboard Monitor 5 last night, and after scratching my head trying to find a suitable motherboard (mine doesnt seem to be in their database for soem reason) I got it working. CPU runs at around 60C with the case at around 40C. We'll see what happens after downtime...
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente
Gunfleet Logistics
Rogue Method Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.19 17:06:00 -
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From most possible to least possible
1) CPU, Northbridge, or Video Card Overheating and auto ahutdown starts.
2) Windows System Error results in auto shutdown. Go into Control Panel > System > Advanced > and disable auto restart and enable the 'Blue Screen of Death' so you can actually see the error message. Yes the BSOD actually is useful!
3) HD Overheats or has errors, in which case there will be a BSOD. See above.
4) Spyware or Virus messing with your system.
5) Bad BIOS Flash or a bad driver.
I honestly think #2 is your problem but #1 is a strong possibility too, in which case you should write down all the relavent info from the BSOD including any filenames you see and any error codes like "0x0000023" and post them and send it to me in-game.
I may be able to help you sort it out.
G'Luck!
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente
Gunfleet Logistics
Rogue Method Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.19 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: illusha
Yes, its C instead of F. I thought if it was C then it was way too high because even the weather isn't close to that temperature but it definitely showed C in my cpu temperature monitering program. The fan that stopped isn't the cpu fan, its the fan in the side panel and I don't hear any grinding noises.
I should really read before posting. Take off the fan and wipe the CPU squeaky clean of the sticky thermal grease. If there is no thermal grease residue then OMG someone screwed up building the PC. Apply some new thermal grease, a very very very thin layer on both the CPU and the heatsink. Dont use too much because too much becomes an insulator instead of a conductor. PLUG IN YOUR HEATSINK AFTER REATTACHING IT FIRMLY! That reminds me of a cardealer who doesnt fill his new batch of cars with motor oil before test driving them.
Prey to jesus your CPU isnt fried from not having a heatsink. Theres a decent chance that it is.
Also I heavily recommend ArticSIlver thermal paste. Its some good stuff but expensive. Also consider upgrading your heatsink because OEM heatsinks usually arent the quietest or most effecient. I love Zalman brand coolers.
cheers & g'luck & remember, ALWAYS HAVE THERMAL PASTE ON YOUR HEATSINK & PLUG IT IN!
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