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Bienurdau Hywoaf Minmatar Matari Holo News Network	Posted - 2007.06.11 06:24:00 - [31] Originally by: Nekuva Originally by: RuleoftheBone Originally by: Sky Hausmann Blah Blah Blah BoB Blah Blah Blah Your name is familiar from a book. In fact...you were killed off in the book in some horrible fashion. The name of the book escapes me but my main question would be: Why didn't you stay dead....and silent? Hopefully LAST in yet another "ohnoes BoB BoB nerf iquitgimmemymoneyback waste of server space thread" Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds. Brilliant Series. Sky Haussman's story is told in Chasm City. I just wanted to agree, its a great series of books :) Revelation Space Redemption Ark Absolution Gap That's the three main ones, then there is also Chasm City which is great too :). Idea: Treaties Idea: Jump Rigs
cal nereus Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.06.11 07:49:00 - [32] I love this game because there are so many people to interact with, but I also hate this game because there are so many people to interact with. DX Oh the paradox. As I am in fact playing this game, I'd say my love outweighs my hate by a considerable margin. Them's the breaks I suppose.
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.06.11 09:05:00 - [33] No More BoB Topics Looking for a relaxed ingame RP channel to join? La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs
RuleoftheBone Minmatar Veto. Academy Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.11 09:07:00 - [34] Originally by: Nekuva Originally by: RuleoftheBone Originally by: Sky Hausmann Blah Blah Blah BoB Blah Blah Blah Your name is familiar from a book. In fact...you were killed off in the book in some horrible fashion. The name of the book escapes me but my main question would be: Why didn't you stay dead....and silent? Hopefully LAST in yet another "ohnoes BoB BoB nerf iquitgimmemymoneyback waste of server space thread" Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds. Brilliant Series. Sky Haussman's story is told in Chasm City. That was driving me nuts. I was ripping thru my bookshelves yesterday . His latest "The Prefect" rocks . Sentiment still applies to the OP "Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
Talkie Toaster Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.11 09:57:00 - [35] Originally by: Ithoriel Pottering about, having fun, finding interesting things to try, chatting to interesting people. That's success to me. YMMV yep that goes for me as well. i joined the corp i have simply becuase they aint interested in alliance wars and keeping space. we potter about, make a few bnits, run missions and havea giggle. for us, thats win.
Curzon Dax Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.11 10:16:00 - [36] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Yes, as an independant gamer, without joining a corporation or alliance your chances or success in Eve are quite low. I resent that statement. I'm in a perfectly good corporation. My NPC corp mates and I went on an anti-pirate excursion today, had a lowsec mining operation the other day... Did I mention that I'm the Eve Battleship Champion? Just clicky my signature. DOOD!!! There are all sorts of opportunities for independent players. Ask any pirate. Except for Ginger Magician.
Ashaz Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.06.11 11:34:00 - [37] It is very simple realy. There is no way for them to know if you're a spy or not, so therefor anyone who is not blue will be killed instantly. it's survival of the fittest out there, and a fleet of defenders is very likely to be fitter then your one ship out exploring. nad if not, then cool. you can be a one man killing force iDrone
Irongut M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2007.06.11 11:58:00 - [38] Originally by: Sky Hausmann Reading all this, I must say I don't like BoB. But I don't like any other ally either, whose members shoot at me without warning when I just try to pass a system in peaceful transfer (I'm not talking about pirates - it's part of their role/ job-, I mean regular troops/ fleets which are not at war with me or the little corp I may be a member of). I'm not interested in PvP, or in conquering systems or even empires. I don't want to destroy some other's hard work. I just want to have some fun and feel the sense of wonder in outback systems I perhaps would be the first to explore. When I joined EVE in 2006 I had this "space - the final frontier" illusion. Now I must realized that literally everything is yet controlled by well settled elder characters and their organisations, and no new member of the community has a real chance to find his/ her own niche in this universe. After all, its simply a domination game like many others before. Let me quote the FAQ to you... Quote: 1.1 What is EVE Online? EVE is a massive multiplayer online game (MMOG) set in a science-fiction based, persistent world. See that bit in bold? What you're supposed to realise from that is that EVE is a game that requires teamwork, not just playing with yourself. If it's taken you over a year to work it out then you should definitely be playing something else, probably Solitaire. My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.06.11 12:05:00 - [39] Originally by: Irongut Originally by: Sky Hausmann Reading all this, I must say I don't like BoB. But I don't like any other ally either, whose members shoot at me without warning when I just try to pass a system in peaceful transfer (I'm not talking about pirates - it's part of their role/ job-, I mean regular troops/ fleets which are not at war with me or the little corp I may be a member of). I'm not interested in PvP, or in conquering systems or even empires. I don't want to destroy some other's hard work. I just want to have some fun and feel the sense of wonder in outback systems I perhaps would be the first to explore. When I joined EVE in 2006 I had this "space - the final frontier" illusion. Now I must realized that literally everything is yet controlled by well settled elder characters and their organisations, and no new member of the community has a real chance to find his/ her own niche in this universe. After all, its simply a domination game like many others before. Let me quote the FAQ to you... Quote: 1.1 What is EVE Online? EVE is a massive multiplayer online game (MMOG) set in a science-fiction based, persistent world. See that bit in bold? What you're supposed to realise from that is that EVE is a game that requires teamwork, not just playing with yourself. If it's taken you over a year to work it out then you should definitely be playing something else, probably Solitaire. Apparently you've never been in a small corp where the majority of members aren't on your regular timeframe. Third shift / rolling shifts / 12 hour shifts FTL.
Ezram Iena	Posted - 2007.06.11 12:26:00 - [40] Originally by: AggresiveForumW**#1 If it's taken you over a year to work it out then you should definitely be playing something else, probably Solitaire. Originally by: AggresiveForumW**#2 Why didn't you stay dead....and silent? Hopefully LAST in yet another "ohnoes BoB BoB nerf iquitgimmemymoneyback waste of server space thread" Sheesh.. PvP'ing on the forums now? The guy asked a statement, he didn't whine in a BoB-thread.. No need to start a flamefest over every single thread that questions the state and perceived direction of the game.
Switchbl4d3 ii	Posted - 2007.06.11 12:28:00 - [41] when eve first started i seem to remember it being taboo to shoot at someone in 0.0 with a + rating character, very short lived indeed.
Cristian Zabala	Posted - 2007.06.11 12:44:00 - [42] I have been playing EVE for four years soon and there is alot of room for independent players to have fun and achieve things. I haven't played in a corp for ages and I don't need to because there is so much in the EVE universe you can do instead.
Zirketch Kruug	Posted - 2007.06.11 12:47:00 - [43] My unde4rstanding was that eve always has been a game of domination, the objective being to be in or lead a corp/alliance that controls all space from 0.0 -> 1.0. Then, once that is achieved you must then hold that control, now lets face facts, as an objective it is fairly impossible to achieve. So what can you do as a independend game player..... stop whining and grow a pair.. Really, either stick to high sec space and earn a fortune as a carebare, or move into the more dangerous areas and take your chances like the rest of us, you think it's easy for an alliance to hold control over claimed space (arguable whether or not anyone has a right to claim space!!). They all need a lot of isk run these alliances, but some manage others fail. Point is they try, and if you get shot at because you entered their space, then accept it and try again. YOU need to prove to the rest you are trust worthy, maybe the game too close to RL for you but unlike RL you can quit... (hint hint) The final Frontier is still there btw.. you just need to find it... and like all the rest guard it, which probably means form a corp/alliance and like the settlers of old... anytime someone enters your space show your buckshot gun and shout " Ger off my laand!!" However, I would really like the original poster -> Sky Hausmann, to reply to everyone that posted on this thread... you started the thread mate.. time to reply to our comments on your whining.

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