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Dajjal
Amarr
Rage Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.10 21:14:00 -
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as procliamed by a GM tonight - continually logging in and out every few seconds is declared valid and legal
so next time you face odds you arent too happy with - feel free to log in and log out as often as necessary to ensure your ship is impossible to target even after succesful probing - just make sure u log in for the minimal amount of time
as endorsed by Xander0000000000 (over 50 relogs in a 1/2 hour)
EVE has, and has had, the potential to be more than the standard MMO fare but allowing utter nonsense like this just makes a mockery of the whole character of this game
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Marquis Dean
Demise and Vestige
9th Fleet
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Posted - 2007.06.10 21:19:00 -
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You heard it here first: people abuse game mechanics!!!
I had no idea!
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I'm having a hard time getting over the irony of spelling "dumb" wrong.
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Alphamarine
Minmatar
Rage Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.10 21:35:00 -
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I have been playing this game for well over 3 years and I too witnessed this, all I can say is I hope that I never see anything as pathetic as what I witnessed by this Finfleet guy tonight.
This went on for over 30 minutes, we probed him down and he flew off, probed down and flew off, because this person was only in game for a few seconds everytime we caught him we could not lock him.
Utterly pathetic way of using ingame mechanics as an "I win button"
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Trem Sinval
Sinval Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.06.10 21:47:00 -
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What's more pathetic: this guy logging in and out constantly, or you two wasting a half hour on a target you obviously were not going to nail down?
Just whip out some suicide alts, have a go at Jita for a bit, that'll make you feel better.
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Alphamarine
Minmatar
Rage Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.10 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Alphamarine on 10/06/2007 21:50:46
You never felt like nailing a cheat at all costs?
We were waiting for the petition response
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Visionsz
Caldari
Midas Tycho
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Posted - 2007.06.10 21:51:00 -
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I can't believe you have attention spans of 30 minutes  
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2007.06.10 21:52:00 -
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Quote:
as procliamed by a GM tonight - continually logging in and out every few seconds is declared valid and legal
so next time you face odds you arent too happy with - feel free to log in and log out as often as necessary to ensure your ship is impossible to target even after succesful probing - just make sure u log in for the minimal amount of time
as endorsed by Xander0000000000 (over 50 relogs in a 1/2 hour)
Why would you be surprised? this is the same company that supports killing your self to make money exploiting their poorly implmented loot rights system.
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Cpt Pugwash
Rubra Libertas Militia
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Posted - 2007.06.10 21:55:00 -
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This is standard practice for Xelas ratters
Some people will do anything to get ahead, allowing such abuses to continue will ruin Eve.
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Sean Hernandez
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Posted - 2007.06.10 22:26:00 -
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Would you be able to get him with an interceptor and Smartbomb?
Just 1 hit to give him the aggro timer.
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Jelmer
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Posted - 2007.06.10 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sean Hernandez
Would you be able to get him with an interceptor and Smartbomb?
Just 1 hit to give him the aggro timer.
He had aggro from earlier and each time he logged back in, the aggro timer reset. BUT - since he logged in and instantly dropped connection, he was in emergency warp in and out all the time, hence being in essence invulnerable.
That, to me, is wrong. Not fair play, exploit, unsportsmanlike, childish.
Oh, and he was even proud of it and verified it in local after we had left...
Jelly
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knifee
Caldari
Rage Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.10 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sean Hernandez
Would you be able to get him with an interceptor and Smartbomb?
Just 1 hit to give him the aggro timer.
he had agro, before he logged he was agroed, thats why we started to scan for him. We found him to, a few times. We even bubbled him. However when he comes out of warp hes already logged off, so he warps out of bubbles and he cant be locked.
As long as he keeps logging in/out until we get tired a leave its imposable for him to lose his ship. However the GMs confirmed a few times tonight that its perfectly ok. Although they didn't seem willing to share why.
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knifee
Caldari
Rage Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.10 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: knifee on 10/06/2007 23:00:17
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Velsharoon
Gallente
Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 23:05:00 -
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Im suprised if finfleet will tolerate it. speak to the ceo?
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knifee
Caldari
Rage Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.10 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Velsharoon
Im suprised if finfleet will tolerate it. speak to the ceo?
I think a mail was sent to him, and in fairness to Finfleet this behaver isn't representative of their corp as a whole.
I think what upset people the most was after it became obvious that we couldn't catch him and petitioned all we got back was 'no its fine, get over it. closed' from the the GMs.
anyway in true ADHD style. i'm now playing POTBS and cant really be bothered with it anymore. especialy as some1 just sank my ship :(
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knifee
Caldari
Rage Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.10 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: knifee on 10/06/2007 23:19:19
:/ i only pressed the button once :( even the forums dont like me today
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Camilo Cienfuegos
EP0CH
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Posted - 2007.06.10 23:21:00 -
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What about the urban myth of logging in an alt to drop you off grid? Where does this fall?
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Alphamarine
Minmatar
Rage Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.11 12:19:00 -
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Honestly though CCP, this is someone using game mechanics as an "I win button." Of course you cannot force someone to stay logged in, but how can it be fair if this person is knowingly doing it to save his ship and knows it makes him invunerable?
That was our kill, in essence he was already dead, however this missuse of game mechanics changed the outcome and the future in EVE life. His ship should have died, his pod should have died, we should have been able to pick up his loot therefore interacting with the commerece side of the game, he would have had to buy a new ship, new modules either building them himself or buying from another. I ask again how can this be fair if using this trick changed all these outcomes?
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Maniva Lakona
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Posted - 2007.06.11 12:25:00 -
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It's bullsh*t that's what it is.
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Switchbl4d3 ii
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Posted - 2007.06.11 12:26:00 -
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what ship type?
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SasRipper
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2007.06.11 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean
You heard it here first: people abuse game mechanics!!!
espically those with gm tools
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Jelmer
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Posted - 2007.06.11 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Switchbl4d3 ii
what ship type?
Raven, probably ratting fittet.
Jelly
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.06.11 13:50:00 -
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Why does he even bother logging out and back in anyway and not just manually warp around the system ?
After a few logouts/logins he's bound to end up in a place where you're NOT waiting for him, and then he could manually warp anywhere.
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Berand
Shadow Of The Light
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.06.11 14:02:00 -
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That's lame as hell. Both on the part of the pilot and on the part of the GMs for not doing something about it.
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WredStorm
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2007.06.11 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Why does he even bother logging out and back in anyway and not just manually warp around the system ?
After a few logouts/logins he's bound to end up in a place where you're NOT waiting for him, and then he could manually warp anywhere.
Yeah, I can't see how logging in and out constantly helps him at all in comparison to just manually jumping around. Can you explain what it accomplished for him in more detail?
Wred
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Erfnam
Time Cube Syndicate
Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.06.11 15:07:00 -
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The problem you are faced with is the fact that you can't lock fast enough. Easily solution, bring smartbombs. That should give you more than enough time to probe him a second time and tackle him.
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Christari Zuborov
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Posted - 2007.06.11 15:12:00 -
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That's really pathetic.
The game mechanics involving PvP really need to be addressed. There are other MMOs who have addressed actions identical to these as it was realized it was bad for the game.
There is nothing more demoralizing than to feel as if you're being cheated. Whether this involves a corp being fed BPO/BPCs, a player abusing a game mechanic for their gain, or developing a 3rd party program to make you invulnerable.
This goes far further than one person doing something in poor form, this strikes at the core of this games 'integrity' issue, and true to form expressed in the past also, the GMs care not.
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JADE DRAG0NESS
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2007.06.11 15:21:00 -
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How completly lame this is the kind of thing id expect a BoB clone to do.
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knifee
Caldari
Rage Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.11 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Erfnam
The problem you are faced with is the fact that you can't lock fast enough. Easily solution, bring smartbombs. That should give you more than enough time to probe him a second time and tackle him.
He had agro before he logged the first time, and every time he logged in/out the timer reset to 15min.
However for what ever reason (emergancy warp mechanics perhpas) he couldn't be locked, or bubbled, or even bumped.
At the end of the day, if he had stayed online and warped around the system i would have cared less, it would have just been chalked up to a decent pilot playing the game and escapeing. This nonsence was just patheic though, and the responce of the GMs just made most of our gang wonder what the point is. Dont like the fight.. just cheat. The GMs say its fine.
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Ez kill
The Staff
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Posted - 2007.06.11 15:30:00 -
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To address some of the people above:
He logged with aggro - fair enough, we've got 15mins to probe him.
We complete the scan and warp to the result - mid warp the guy pops up on local for a split second then disappears. We get to the ship and he is unlockable, unbumpable in fact your ship travels straight through him as if he isn't there. He warps off.
We probe again, warp to result - guy logs in and out again. Same result - ship is at 0km for well over 20 seconds and we cannot do anything.
The person in question was logging in and out as fast as he could load the client, and was never in the game for more than a fraction of a second.
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Beef Hardslab
The 5 Amigo's LLC.
NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.06.11 15:40:00 -
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Hmm maybe smartbomb battleship would do the trick? No lock required, seems to hit other things that are unlockable (probes).
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Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii
Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
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