Originally by: Arenis Xemdal

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Talk to Dianabolic.

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Originally by: invaderzim

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The obvious answer here is: noob ship (or t1 frig). Look to kill an unattentive shuttle or hauler.


There's an npc stn 1j out of nol btw. Can't get more bob than that.

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Originally by: Tecam Hund

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Then, when you can afford to lose ships go and kill BoB renters for sport.

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Originally by: Tecam Hund

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The easiest way is to establish yourself in the nearest NPC region. Get some blueprints and equipment you will need to start with, and make yourself a base of operations.

Then, when you can afford to lose ships go and kill BoB renters for sport.

Doing it as a one time venture is pointless though. It doesn't seem realistic to take one ship into any 0.0 space solo trying to achieve something.

As for ships, Thorax or Vexor are probably two of the best choices. Use Myrmidon and Dominix when you are already well established.

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Originally by: Curzon Dax

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We've established that there are NPC stations down in their space. Good stuff. :) Now what? Fly what? Fit a cloak and try maeneuvering past gate camps?

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1. Jump into implantless clone.


2. Make sure my clone is up to date


3. Take a covert ops frigate and a library of BPOs (or BPCs) of everything I would need to do what I wanted. Should be easy enough to get all that to one of the NPC stations (covops frigates are almost impossible to catch... aren't they ). make sure the station has medical facilities.


4. Ensconce yourself in said station, buy some minerals and start building (you are a self confessed carebear and industrialist after all).


5. Move medical clone to the station.


6. Wait a few hours for stuff to build, assemble and go explore/rat/pew pew/die horribly to gate camps/whatever.

Originally by: Curzon Dax

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Originally by: Tecam Hund

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The easiest way is to establish yourself in the nearest NPC region. Get some blueprints and equipment you will need to start with, and make yourself a base of operations.

Then, when you can afford to lose ships go and kill BoB renters for sport.

Doing it as a one time venture is pointless though. It doesn't seem realistic to take one ship into any 0.0 space solo trying to achieve something.

As for ships, Thorax or Vexor are probably two of the best choices. Use Myrmidon and Dominix when you are already well established.

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Tecan, this isn't about ISK - I have plenty of ships, more ISK than I can reasonably count, and if you clicky my signature, you'd notice that I'm offering billions and billions if someone can take me down in solo combat.

This is about having only been in 0.0 once, briefly, disastrously, and wanting to take another peek, deep into the heart of BoB space.

SO!!!!!!!!!

We've established that there are NPC stations down in their space. Good stuff. :) Now what? Fly what? Fit a cloak and try maeneuvering past gate camps?

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Originally by: DeadProphet

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free tip, if you want to see bob, don't go to fountain, go to delve. thats right, DELVE! not fountain or querious etc.

looking forward to it :P

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Originally by: "Shanda Captison"

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Vince, you can't even spell ECM m8

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Originally by: Curzon Dax

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Forum folks:

I'm an empire carebear, wholly so. I read so much about BoB this, BoB that, I want to go down into their space...deep down into their space, and poke around. Kill some of their rats. Maybe try pew-pewing someone. Probably end up getting blown up.

I'm at a loss for where to begin.

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1. If I take a ratting ship, I'd probably get caught up on gatecamp somewhere along the way and blown up.

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2. If I fit a ship with WCS, I presume I wouldn't have docking rights anywhere down there to refit.

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3. If I take my recon, I can get by safely, but since I fly an Arazu, I wouldn't really have the killing power to solo either rats or people.

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4. If I put a cloak onto a battleship for the trip...and WCS...same problem as before - how do I refit for combat?

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For you more experienced folks in these sort of things, please offer some tips? I'm more of an armor tanker than a shield tanker, so leaving the WCS on would hurt my tank. How should I go about this?

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Originally by: Glumpumpkin

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While I have this thread open I should also mention- it's more likely you'll be killed by BoB tenants or enemies of BoB than BoB themselves. I spent a good couple of months flying around their space and it was shocking to me how devoid of players it was.

Maybe they were all deployed somewhere, but i'd like to think they all docked up and logged when they saw my name in the intel channels

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Originally by: Blacklight

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If you need to ask on here how to go about it then you probably shouldn't be coming.

Just use your head.

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Originally by: RedFall

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How dare you try to argue my point with your so called "evidence". I don't need any, I have truthiness on my side.

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Originally by: Maglorre

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If it were me, this is what I would do.

1. Jump into implantless clone.


2. Make sure my clone is up to date


3. Take a covert ops frigate and a library of BPOs (or BPCs) of everything I would need to do what I wanted. Should be easy enough to get all that to one of the NPC stations (covops frigates are almost impossible to catch... aren't they ). make sure the station has medical facilities.


4. Ensconce yourself in said station, buy some minerals and start building (you are a self confessed carebear and industrialist after all).


5. Move medical clone to the station.


6. Wait a few hours for stuff to build, assemble and go explore/rat/pew pew/die horribly to gate camps/whatever.

Have fun.

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• Rebuilding: The most difficult part of deep 0.0 space is not surviving, because you're going to die; it's rebuilding after you've died. You can't leave 0.0 to go buy a replacement ship, because there's a good chance that you won't get the replacement back in one piece. That means that everything you need on a long-term basis--ships, modules, ammunition--you're going to have to build locally yourself.


• Getting There: Traveling in and out of 0.0 is a matter of using a very fast, very replaceable ship--my recommendation is an Interceptor or even just a Frigate. Raw speed, Warp Core Stabilizer(s), and enough tanking to survive a few hits is all you need; I've run serious gatecamps in a Slasher.


• Blueprints: You still may die getting into 0.0; while you can afford to lose the ship, as Maglorre pointed out, what you really need is to get the blueprints to your destination. You can take your chances running them yourself, or you can contract out to a mercenary to make the run for you, there are a few people with a lot of experience at precisely this type of task.


• Gate Camps: The most dangerous spots are the boundaries between high-sec and low-sec, between low-sec and 0.0, and between opposing alliances. As mentioned above, deep 0.0 is nearly empty, unless there's a war underway.


• Station Camps: Once you're deep in 0.0, the most dangerous spots are going to be NPC station entrances and exits. You're much, much more vulnerable coming into or out of a station than a warp gate. On the way in, if you're suspecting trouble, scan the station before jumping to it; on the way out, pick a target (like a planet) that's aligned with the station exit that you can warp to the SECOND you leave the station. Minimize your time in-station; if there's serious in-station work to be done, do it at the end of your playing session before logging off.


• Stay Out of the Way: Minimize time in your "home" system if there is any local traffic. Do your mining and ratting one or two jumps away if possible, in empty systems (lots of them in 0.0). Bring plenty of ammo with you, and use an armor repairer to avoid having to go back for repairs.


• Keep a Low Profile: Keep quiet in local and move quickly. You want to act like you're supposed to be there; alliances have more members and guests than they can keep track of, much of the time they may simply not realize that you're not on the guest list.